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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Wed 8 May 08:09
I see Falkirk have begun their summer deals by agreeing on a 1 year contract for Michael McKenna of Arbroath.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 8 May 08:44
arbroath have snapped up Gavin Reilly from QOTS
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 8 May 09:04
Bit out of left field.
He`s been part time pretty much his whole career, 33 year old now, runs his own business and just off the back of a bad injury.
Good player though no doubt about that.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Wed 8 May 09:05
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 8 May 08:44
arbroath have snapped up Gavin Reilly from QOTS
Great news, means we have no chance of that dud returning
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 May 11:33
Partick must think he`s good enough for the Premiership!
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 8 May 14:07
Livingston FC is delighted to announce the pre-contract signing of defender Matthew Clarke from Northern Irish Premiership side, Linfield.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Wed 8 May 14:34
According to the Courier Lewis Stevenson and Paul Hanlon are linked with us. That probably means they’re Raith bound!
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Wed 8 May 14:56
Lewis Stevenson is a Kirkcaldy widtink so I assume he`ll likely end up there.
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Wed 8 May 15:06
Sadat Anaku, Mark Birighitti, Layton Bisland, Logan Chalmers, Flynn Duffy, Declan Glass, Scott McMann, Archie Meekison, Chris Mochrie, Craig Moore and David Wotherspoon will all leave Dundee United this summer
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 8 May 15:34
Some reasonable players in that United list....I`d take a look at a few; Mochrie and Meekison maybe...
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 8 May 15:41
Chalmers as well, was excellent for Ayr in the first game at east End.
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Wed 8 May 15:51
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Wed 08 May 11:01
Quote:
Parsfangaz, Wed 8 May 09:05
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 8 May 08:44
arbroath have snapped up Gavin Reilly from QOTS
Great news, means we have no chance of that dud returning
Robbie Muirhead going from Morton to Livingston, Robbie Crawford likewise to Partick Thistle
Glad to see Livvy preparing for division 1 in another year :)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 8 May 16:44
Quote:
pars no1, Wed 8 May 15:06
Sadat Anaku, Mark Birighitti, Layton Bisland, Logan Chalmers, Flynn Duffy, Declan Glass, Scott McMann, Archie Meekison, Chris Mochrie, Craig Moore and David Wotherspoon will all leave Dundee United this summer
Quite the list! Maybe going with the Dundee method of signing about 15 players for the premier league. Probably wise given their squad is largely the one that took them down.
I`d take Glass and Chalmers, we need creativity.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Wed 8 May 16:46
Logan Chalmers, Scott McCann (as a replacement for Edwards if he leaves) and Wotherspoon would all be good additions.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 May 17:05
Logan Chalmers has always looked dangerous playing for Ayr against us and he crashed a shot against the bar from outside the box on Friday night which beat Mehmet by its sheer power.
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Wed 8 May 17:17
Mcmann if edwards leaves and chalmers improves team/squad. Other young players worth a look.
Would also take Hanlon at Hibs, suspect Stevenson will end up at Raith.
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Topic Originator: halbe
Date: Wed 8 May 17:42
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 8 May 08:44
arbroath have snapped up Gavin Reilly from QOTS
Great news, means we have no chance of that dud returning
You mean the same player who went to St Mirren immediately after he left Dunfermline and proved everyone who thought he was a "dud" wrong by helping them win the championship and being player of the year , top goal scorer in the league etc etc
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Wed 8 May 18:06
Quote:
dafc, Wed 8 May 17:17
Mcmann if edwards leaves and chalmers improves team/squad. Other young players worth a look.
Would also take Hanlon at Hibs, suspect Stevenson will end up at Raith.
His son is in the same class as my daughter and told her that he was retiring but then said he was going to sign for Raith. Kids don`t lie, do they?!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 8 May 18:17
Whilst researching Gavin Reilly`s career I got sidetracked into looking at Alex Jakubiak`s and was surprised to find he won two caps for Scotland at under 19 level. Although born in England he qualified for Scotland and also Poland through his ancestry.
Gavin Reilly has gone part-time and taken up an apprenticeship outside football.
Post Edited (Wed 08 May 18:18)
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Wed 8 May 18:45
Quote:
halbe, Wed 8 May 17:42
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 8 May 08:44
arbroath have snapped up Gavin Reilly from QOTS
Great news, means we have no chance of that dud returning
You mean the same player who went to St Mirren immediately after he left Dunfermline and proved everyone who thought he was a "dud" wrong by helping them win the championship and being player of the year , top goal scorer in the league etc etc
Dobbie was top goalscorer. Reilly wasn`t even St Mirren`s top scorer, it was Lewis Morgan, who was also player of the year 😉
Oops - he was their top scorer in all competitions 🤣🤣
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
Post Edited (Wed 08 May 20:23)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 8 May 21:17
Interesting to see Logan Chalmers being released.
Last night I noticed the way James McPake talked about him a couple of times. I actually thought at the time "we`re signing him" as he was quite gushing with praise for him. He`s obviously an admirer
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Wed 8 May 22:58
Quote:
halbe, Wed 8 May 17:42
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 8 May 08:44
arbroath have snapped up Gavin Reilly from QOTS
Great news, means we have no chance of that dud returning
You mean the same player who went to St Mirren immediately after he left Dunfermline and proved everyone who thought he was a "dud" wrong by helping them win the championship and being player of the year , top goal scorer in the league etc etc
Top goal scorer in the league , I ok mate 🤣
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Topic Originator: Livingston Par
Date: Wed 8 May 23:12
Wotherspoon worth a look? 🤣🤣
Post Edited (Wed 08 May 23:12)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 9 May 06:07
Logan Chalmers would be a great signing
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 9 May 07:52
Every club In the championship will be speaking to chalmers agent. Likewise mochries.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 9 May 08:52
Seen him first hand last Friday. Apart from the shot that hit the bar he was invisible.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Thu 9 May 08:56
not sure about chalmers, he`s an inverted right winger, something we dont really need ?
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 9 May 09:11
He`s fast, direct, strong, and skillful. I`d rather have him in my team than have to deal with him. He`s probably better than KRH atm. Bearing in mind on Friday night he was up against Edwards I thought both players gave a good account of themselves.
Post Edited (Thu 09 May 09:12)
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Thu 9 May 09:15
Well considering we play a back 5 with wingbacks majority of the time, any winger coming in will be totally wasted with the way we play
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 9 May 09:34
So a good LB renders him anonymous?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 9 May 09:37
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 9 May 09:34
So a good LB renders him anonymous? the best left back in the league.
He was as anonymous as KRH,
9 goals and 4 assists this season not a bad return.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 9 May 10:19
Excuse me for having an opinion. All I said was nowhere to be seen last Friday. Or a few weeks ago at EEP.
My opinion might be tainted by the hairband/rolled down socks look....like an Aldi version of Grealish 😃
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 9 May 10:37
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 9 May 10:19
Excuse me for having an opinion. All I said was nowhere to be seen last Friday. Or a few weeks ago at EEP.
My opinion might be tainted by the hairband/rolled down socks look....like an Aldi version of Grealish 😃
I`m respecting your opinion. But I believe every club will be asking his agent if he would be interested, I`d be very disappointed if we haven`t made enquiries.
He will make any team in the league stronger and we are no different.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 9 May 10:48
The problem with this transfer window is - do you stick or twist? The Premiership clubs are still playing but they`ll be shedding loads of players in the next few weeks, many of whom may have to drop down a level. You could dive in now and then find out later somebody better is available.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 9 May 11:03
Quote:
parsfan97, Thu 9 May 09:15
Well considering we play a back 5 with wingbacks majority of the time, any winger coming in will be totally wasted with the way we play
Change the formation and sign the best players suitable to fill the positions……you never know, we might just garner better results from it 😂
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 9 May 11:39
Quote:
Football_Par, Thu 9 May 08:56
not sure about chalmers, he`s an inverted right winger, something we dont really need ?
Wouldn’t it be great to have a left footed winger on the left wing, putting crosses on for a physical centre forward to get on the end of ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Thu 09 May 11:40)
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Thu 9 May 12:12
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Thu 9 May 11:39
Quote:
Football_Par, Thu 9 May 08:56
not sure about chalmers, he`s an inverted right winger, something we dont really need ?
Wouldn’t it be great to have a left footed winger on the left wing, putting crosses on for a physical centre forward to get on the end of ?
Mad talk.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sun 12 May 18:25
Quote:
Steviethepar2, Wed 8 May 15:51
Quote:
JamesAndrew74, Wed 08 May 11:01
Quote:
Parsfangaz, Wed 8 May 09:05
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 8 May 08:44
arbroath have snapped up Gavin Reilly from QOTS
Great news, means we have no chance of that dud returning
Robbie Muirhead going from Morton to Livingston, Robbie Crawford likewise to Partick Thistle
Glad to see Livvy preparing for division 1 in another year :)
I see Muirhead has now been confirmed as moving to Livingston.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 12 May 18:44
Partick are rumoured to be interested in George Oakley of Morton as well as Robbie Crawford. With Robbie Muirhead already bound for Livi that could seriously weaken Morton`s squad.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 12 May 23:37
Oakley is out of contract so he`ll be in demand. Maybe we`ll have a look?
Partick may fancy a backup / alternative to Brian Graham.
Morton would want to keep him.
ICT are good at the back but don`t score enough goals.
Falkirk might be keen for an upgrade on MacIver.
Raith may think he`ll provide a better return than Hamilton.
If it was purely about football and where he thinks he`d score the most goals then Patrick or Falkirk would be my guess, both seem to get good service into a central forward.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Mon 13 May 16:58
Oakley linked with Ayr United 👀
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 13 May 18:52
Oakley won’t fit our board’s strategy. They’d rather an untried English youth player signing on loan
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 13 May 19:11
Like Michael O`Halloran and Alex Jakubiak?
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 13 May 19:12
^ Or sign dross like that
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 13 May 19:14
See how easy those goalposts shifted there?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 13 May 19:26
We haven`t signed anybody yet but the recruitment strategy has already been criticised!
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 13 May 19:32
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 13 May 19:26
We haven`t signed anybody yet but the recruitment strategy has already been criticised!
Admit it, wee eck, you love the controversy generated on this forum. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 13 May 19:45
Quote:
parsfan97, Mon 13 May 19:12
^ Or sign dross like that
Dross like Sam Fisher, KRH and Ewan Otoo?
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 13 May 20:53
Oakley might be a decent signing, has he played with/for mcpake or Mackay before tho? Every over 23 year old has to have ticked this box in mcpakes tenure.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 13 May 21:33
By the law of averages you’re going to sign some good players. Overall our 2 transfer windows were pretty poor
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 13 May 21:39
Quote:
parsfan97, Mon 13 May 21:33
By the law of averages you’re going to sign some good players. Overall, our 2 transfer windows were pretty poor
What more do you want/expect? I personally think the last summer window was great seeing what Otoo and Fisher can become. And the winter window MFW and Kane came in and did the job they were signed for,
I`d be over the moon if we permanently signed another two players this summer with the potential of Fisher and Otoo.
That`s without mentioning KRH.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 13 May 21:46
Apparently Oakley is joining Ayr. Tbh, not that fussy as apart from this season his goalscoring record is pretty poor. Would be worth a look at Anton Dowds though
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 13 May 22:05
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 13 May 21:46
Apparently Oakley is joining Ayr. Tbh, not that fussy as apart from this season his goalscoring record is pretty poor. Would be worth a look at Anton Dowds though
Aye that`s a good shout 👍
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 15 May 12:35
Shaun Rooney 2 years deal to St Mirren
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 15 May 13:18
It would be refreshing to see a wee deal done early eh ?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 15 May 13:36
Surely the quality of the deal is more important than the timing?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 15 May 14:18
No I demand utter dross signed yesterday.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Wed 15 May 14:33
"KRH signed around this time last year"
That was last year.
"Surely the quality of the deal is more important than the timing?"
Never said it wasn`t.
"No I demand utter dross signed yesterday"
And you never change 😆
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 16 May 16:40
Peter Haring, Michael McGovern and Andy Halliday to leave Hearts at the end of the season.
I imagine there will be a fair few clubs interested in them.
Post Edited (Thu 16 May 16:40)
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Thu 16 May 17:15
Quote:
StevenPar77, Thu 16 May 16:40
Peter Haring, Michael McGovern and Andy Halliday to leave Hearts at the end of the season.
I imagine there will be a fair few clubs interested in them.
Halliday signing with Motherwell. Was a loan till end of season then 1 year deal
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sun 19 May 22:44
Lewis Strap leaving Morton apparently. Always thought he was decent when I saw him on the tele. If Edwards leaves a possible replacement?
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Mon 20 May 09:47
Scott Burns reporting the pars are set to sign Chris Kane on a permanent deal
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 20 May 10:15
`Scott Burns reporting the pars are set to sign Chris Kane on a permanent deal`
If this happens I`m sure someone will come on and tell us it isn`t really a `new` signing.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 20 May 10:27
Will be good to get Kane on board, but we still need a 20 goal a season striker. Can Wighton be that man, if he stays fit, or do we play with two genuine wingers to get to get crosses in for Kane?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Mon 20 May 11:03
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 20 May 10:15
`Scott Burns reporting the pars are set to sign Chris Kane on a permanent deal`
If this happens I`m sure someone will come on and tell us it isn`t really a `new` signing.
That`s how it would feel to me anyway. It wouldn`t carry the same excitement as someone who hasn`t played for the club before
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 20 May 11:07
Quote:
LEGEND85, Mon 20 May 11:03
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 20 May 10:15
`Scott Burns reporting the pars are set to sign Chris Kane on a permanent deal`
If this happens I`m sure someone will come on and tell us it isn`t really a `new` signing.
That`s how it would feel to me anyway. It wouldn`t carry the same excitement as someone who hasn`t played for the club before
FFS he was joking!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bovril Man
Date: Mon 20 May 11:09
I hope this rumour is not true.
Kane is a pretty decent Championship level player, but his injury record is terrible and he’s not getting any younger.
After the season we’ve just had with injuries, McPake should be reshaping the squad profile to lessen the chances of a repeat next season, not permanently signing Chris Kane.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Mon 20 May 11:14
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 20 May 11:07
Quote:
LEGEND85, Mon 20 May 11:03
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 20 May 10:15
`Scott Burns reporting the pars are set to sign Chris Kane on a permanent deal`
If this happens I`m sure someone will come on and tell us it isn`t really a `new` signing.
That`s how it would feel to me anyway. It wouldn`t carry the same excitement as someone who hasn`t played for the club before
FFS he was joking!
I`m not convinced it was a joke but if you think it was thanks for telling me in such a polite way
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 20 May 11:15
Kane would be an excellent addition to the squad on a full time basis. If our summer window comprised of Kane and MFW and the rest being loans I would class that as an excellent window.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 20 May 11:26
Is 275 games in 10 seasons that bad an appearance record?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Mon 20 May 11:26)
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Mon 20 May 12:38
Given the impact he made, I`d be more than happy for Kane to sign.
If MFW were to sign I`d be delighted. He looks a real prospect. Can`t see him playing at our level though unless he really values playing every week.
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Topic Originator: LesliePar
Date: Mon 20 May 12:44
No way MFW signs permanently, the manager said at the supporters meeting that Aberdeen were watching him at every home game. He`ll be playing at a higher level than the Scottish championship next season.
COYP!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 20 May 12:55
Kane would be a great addition, providing that the medical data suggests that he can play 25+ games a season - based on his current circumstances. We would have been relegated without him.
I like MFW, but I am not seeing exactly what some others are. I would sign him but have not seen much evidence that he would stroll through a season in the Scottish Championship, that we`d be lucky to have him or that he would be playing at a level below his current abilities.
I`ve seen it suggested that he`s been miles better than anyone else on the park in some games - and I wouldn`t even have had him as man of the match on those occasions. He could well train on though and seems to fit our model.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 20 May 13:24
Kane would be a great signing, hope it happens.
Reckon it`s more likely now that Saints are confirmed in the top flight next year. Think they may have kept him if they came down.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 20 May 13:32
Chris Kane would be a good signing. If we do sign him, I`d like to see us play to his strengths and play with two wingers ( and I don`t mean inverted ones either )
Let KRH play on the right and let`s sign a left footed winger and play him on the left
Post Edited (Mon 20 May 13:32)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 20 May 16:30
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 20 May 13:32
Chris Kane would be a good signing. If we do sign him, I`d like to see us play to his strengths and play with two wingers ( and I don`t mean inverted ones either )
Let KRH play on the right and let`s sign a left footed winger and play him on the left
I actually thought McCann played well when out on the left and I like the sound of your idea. Unfortunately mcpake seems adamant to play with 3 centre backs ruling out wingers who aren`t wing backs.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 20 May 17:33
It’s been some time since McCann played well in any position. If Kane signs I can’t see jak or McCann either staying or getting much gametime at all next season.
This is a good signing, just have to hope he stays fit.
Now to get some players in to supply him.
Post Edited (Mon 20 May 18:07)
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 20 May 17:39
Shaun Byrne not offered a new deal at Dundee. Surprised its been announced now given he`s still got games to play at Rovers.
He`d be an improvement on Allan/Chalmers and a good player to have in the squad fighting against Hamilton / Otoo.
More likely to stay at Rovers though.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 20 May 18:23
The Courier are also saying Chris Kane is going to sign a deal with us.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 20 May 18:26
I will be very surprised and disappointed if Allan hasn`t been offered a new deal.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 20 May 18:32
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DBA, Mon 20 May 17:39
Shaun Byrne not offered a new deal at Dundee. Surprised its been announced now given he`s still got games to play at Rovers.
He`d be an improvement on Allan/Chalmers and a good player to have in the squad fighting against Hamilton / Otoo.
More likely to stay at Rovers though.
He will most likely be Rovers bound on a perm deal. Cant see us making too many early signings this year.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 20 May 18:38
I`d rather we signed a more creative midfielder than Byrne.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 20 May 18:44
I’ll be disappointed if Allan has been offered a deal. We need to be getting better quality in if we want to make a push for promotion
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 20 May 19:07
Quote:
parsfan97, Mon 20 May 18:44
I’ll be disappointed if Allan has been offered a deal. We need to be getting better quality in if we want to make a push for promotion
I`d prefer to keep Allan than Chalmers, but given we`re lumbered with Joe for another year then we need to let Allan go.
Can`t have both of them in the squad if we want to get into the promotion playoffs IMO.
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Topic Originator: InschPar
Date: Mon 20 May 19:30
Post Edited (Mon 20 May 19:32)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 20 May 19:33
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 20 May 18:38
I`d rather we signed a more creative midfielder than Byrne.
We need one but not easy to come by. I know DT was a handful to manage, but we need someone with his talent
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 20 May 19:42
100% agree DBA. If we could move chalmers on then I’d keep Allan for backup, but I doubt that’s likely to happen
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Topic Originator: InschPar
Date: Mon 20 May 20:40
parsfan97 wrote:
> 100% agree DBA. If we could move chalmers on then I’d keep
> Allan for backup, but I doubt that’s likely to happen
>
> Paul Allan has been released, not sure why the club haven’t announced it yet?
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Mon 20 May 20:50
I’ve also heard that Paul Allen has been released. A wee bit surprising that we haven’t announced who is not being offered new contracts? Hopefully we get this announced shortly at the same time as news about new signings!!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 20 May 20:58
They need to announce quickly if leaks are starting to come out otherwise not going to look great on the club.
On Allan, if he has gone, wish him all the very best but for DAFC it’s definitely the correct move. If we’re serious about making a good go of it next season, we need to free up some resources and bring in better.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 20 May 21:11
Quote:
Swifty, Mon 20 May 20:50
I’ve also heard that Paul Allen has been released. A wee bit surprising that we haven’t announced who is not being offered new contracts? Hopefully we get this announced shortly at the same time as news about new signings!!
News on contracts was meant to come out the week after the supporters meeting……so last week…….fair play if the club are still waiting etc, but communication again seems to be an issue.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Mon 20 May 21:28
Maybe waiting to see if Rovers are in our league or not. Would love to see some early signings from us for a change.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 20 May 21:31
Another season of Joe Chalmers in midfield will be brutal tbh… Paul Allan gone doesn’t surprise me as he’s not done anything to warrant a new contract..
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 20 May 21:40
I think a move for Paul Allan would be good for him too. He is a good player, if we had the resources he would be a good squad player in this league. 67 games, 2 goals, 7 assists in his time here. It can`t be easy for him only getting minutes here and there and the occasional start. Can`t really say anything bad about him on the hard work he put in here, or his attitude. He has reached the age where he needs to be playing regularly now. Maybe a move to somewhere like Kelty or East Fife would do him the world of good. Sometimes a step back to take a step forward
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Mon 20 May 21:48
I like Paul Allan. Agree he needs to be playing week in week out. I think that he will improve with regular game time. He is no better or worse than anyone we have now so it depends on how he could improve next season and contribute in our push for the playoffs if he were to stay.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Mon 20 May 21:57
I think if anything we need to bring in another experienced pro in the middle of the park so that we have a thread of experience in all areas. The younger players need that support around them, particularly when we are up against it. I don`t look at fine margins in terms of points differential at the end of the season, more game by game, where results could have gone either way. We need a core of strength through the team to ensure we do not loose cheap goals. If we continue that next season we could easily be in trouble
Post Edited (Tue 21 May 08:10)
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 20 May 22:44
As I just read on another site…does the board still not have their 7/8 year plan and we are only year 3 in? If that is the case then welcome to league 1 football for a few seasons🤷
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Mon 20 May 23:06
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 20 May 22:44
As I just read on another site…does the board still not have their 7/8 year plan and we are only year 3 in? If that is the case then welcome to league 1 football for a few seasons🤷
What? I don’t think they’re going to accept relegation?
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Tue 21 May 00:45
I don’t think you understand the principle behind a 7/8 year plan. It is to improve year-on-year, not go back the way.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 21 May 07:03
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 20 May 22:44
As I just read on another site…does the board still not have their 7/8 year plan and we are only year 3 in? If that is the case then welcome to league 1 football for a few seasons🤷
Please explain the logic underlying your conclusion, Alter Ego. I`m totally bamboozled by it.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 21 May 08:21
Chalmers is the luckiest football at the club, that’s twice now better players have had to be let go to leave as he’s been the one under contract…
Allan was okay, but like McCann, he came through at the club so supporters gave him less slack but has been found wanting at this level, would be a good option for a club with ambitions of making the championship next season tho, ie a Kelty or even arbroath.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 21 May 08:39
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 21 May 08:21
Chalmers is the luckiest football at the club, that’s twice now better players have had to be let go to leave as he’s been the one under contract…
When was the first time? Genuine question. When we went down, everyone out of contract was released. But he was also a very good option for league 1, as we found out. I’m also not convinced at all that Reece Cole or Graham Dorrans were better?
Then I don’t think we released any midfielders last summer, did we? He also earned himself a new contract with his performances last season anyway, which is hardly ‘lucky’.
Also, is Paul Allan really a better option? I don’t think either player is what we need to challenge in the top half of the championship. If they were both out of contract, I think both would be released. So I’d argue Chalmers’ contract situation isn’t the reason Paul Allan’s been released, as you’re claiming.
If Paul Allan has been released, I hope he kicks on in his career and goes on to fulfil the potential he had when he was younger.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 21 May 08:39
You didn’t “read it” AE. You posted it on another forum.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Tue 21 May 08:56)
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Tue 21 May 08:47
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Post Edited (Tue 21 May 08:49)
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Tue 21 May 08:50
This alter guy gives us alters a bad name!
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 21 May 09:16
Allan is a decent championship footballer with 20 odd appearances this season, if I were him I`d be very disappointed at not getting offered a new deal
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 21 May 09:20
See Livingston had a few away listed as `automatic relegation release clause`.
That`s not a bad gig. Get relegated but have a free joker card to say cheerio!
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 21 May 09:35
Works both ways, TAFKA.
The club can release a player who is on a decent wage?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 21 May 11:04
I don`t understand why the club hasn`t announced the position regarding the four players who are out of contract at the end of the month. Last year this information was released the day after the final league game of the season. What was the source of the news that Paul Allan is leaving? Did it give any information re the other three players?
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 21 May 11:11
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 21 May 11:04
I don`t understand why the club hasn`t announced the position regarding the four players who are out of contract at the end of the month. Last year this information was released the day after the final league game of the season. What was the source of the news that Paul Allan is leaving? Did it give any information re the other three players?
They`ve maybe been offered deals that are not suitable I.e wage + length with a 30th may deadline,
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 21 May 11:18
Last season we were told the players who hadn`t been offered contracts and, at the same time, that negotiations were in progress with Mehmet and Comrie.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Tue 21 May 11:21
last season the boys who were getting released were told weeks in advance
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Tue 21 May 11:23
Topic Originator: weemike like
Date: Tue 21 May 09:16
Allan is a decent championship footballer with 20 odd appearances this season, if I were him I`d be very disappointed at not getting offered a new deal
sometimes its just a case of freeing up the budget to get better players in
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 21 May 11:37
Listen to Roy Barry`s opinion on Chalmers, via East End Tales podcast.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Tue 21 May 11:57
chalmers is never going to be popular with some as he dosnt smash people
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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle
Date: Tue 21 May 12:03
On the pitch aside, sounds like Chalmers does an awful lot of good things behind the scenes that others benefit from.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Tue 21 May 12:04
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Tue 21 May 11:37
Listen to Roy Barry`s opinion on Chalmers, via East End Tales podcast.
Here here!
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Tue 21 May 12:54
Quote:
Ladswell_Thistle, Tue 21 May 12:03
On the pitch aside, sounds like Chalmers does an awful lot of good things behind the scenes that others benefit from.
I was about to say - doesn`t he help out in the running/coaching of the reserve team?
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 21 May 12:57
Last season, we won the league with 5/6 games to spare. We had plenty of time to start negotiations and planning for the following season and I think we announced plenty of extensions between then and the end of the season.
This year, we didn’t know what league we’d be in until there was 1 game left, there’s a bit of a difference.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 21 May 13:17
Well, where`s this information coming from that Paul Allan is not being offered a contract? It`s over two weeks since our last game and our fate was known the week before that. I`d be surprised if the manager hasn`t decided which players are leaving.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Tue 21 May 13:35
We already have Otoo and Hamilton as the combative CDM types. Even Chalmers plays there so Allan 4th choice ?
Its Attacking Midfielders we are short of i`d say
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 21 May 13:46
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Tue 21 May 11:37
Listen to Roy Barry`s opinion on Chalmers, via East End Tales podcast.
What is Roy Barry`s opinion on Chalmers?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 21 May 14:18
Quote:
red-star-par, Tue 21 May 13:46
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Tue 21 May 11:37
Listen to Roy Barry`s opinion on Chalmers, via East End Tales podcast.
What is Roy Barry`s opinion on Chalmers?
An admiration of a player from a great Par`s legend!❤️👍
From someone that knows something about football 🤔😲
Post Edited (Tue 21 May 14:19)
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Tue 21 May 15:01
Quote:
red-star-par, Tue 21 May 13:46
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Tue 21 May 11:37
Listen to Roy Barry`s opinion on Chalmers, via East End Tales podcast.
What is Roy Barry`s opinion on Chalmers?
Take a listen 😉
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Tue 21 May 15:25
I think the one decision that has been made is the loan players returning to their parent clubs. I am sure players will be on holiday and as has been said on here we were not sure what league we would be in so doubt any negotiations have taken place. The fact tgat no announcement has been made suggests we are in negotiation with players, they are on holiday or we are carefully reviewing our options. Glad to see no panic decision making. The Livi situation perhaps tells you something with respect to their wage bill. It looks like they will have a bit of a rebuilding exercise to do with the number of players released, up for sale, or with release clauses.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 21 May 15:27
“You didn’t “read it” AE. You posted it on another forum.”
Zing!
Back on topic, be good to get an early deal sorted for a player in to get some excitement going!
Post Edited (Tue 21 May 15:39)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 21 May 16:13
If Paul Allan is away we will need a good set piece taker as he was only one capable of regularly taking good corners and freekicks .
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Tue 21 May 18:03
Quote:
saltonsgonagetu, Tue 21 May 16:13
If Paul Allan is away we will need a good set piece taker as he was only one capable of regularly taking good corners and freekicks .
All out of contract players are leaving. Feel sorry for Paul Allan as I feel he would be a useful squad player.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 21 May 18:13
Tough decisions to make but ultimately the squad needs to improve. I`d argue a few of the under contract guys need to be moved on as well, but now McPake and co need to find the quality to upgrade the team
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Tue 21 May 18:13
Personally liked Jakubiak and hope that one doesn`t bite us as I could see him getting fixed up by the likes of Falk!rk.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 21 May 18:26
Can see us regretting letting Paul Allan go. We’ve been lacking a decent crosser all season. He was excellent at set pieces.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft
Date: Tue 21 May 18:27
Leavers all on clubs website now.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 21 May 18:29
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 21 May 18:26
Can see us regretting letting Paul Allan go. We’ve been lacking a decent crosser all season. He was excellent at set pieces.
You`ll struggle to get better players than paul and Alex for free in the championship, I`m disappointed for both of them but I`m sure they will pick up clubs of a similar level by next week.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 21 May 18:34
Always sad to see honest pros leave but we have to make way to improve the squad somehow.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 21 May 18:34
As others have said I appreciate Allans efforts in his time here.
Think at his age he needs to go somewhere that he`ll play every week. His delivery from set pieces is excellent and wouldn`t be surprised to see him be picked up by a decent side.
We need to prioritise the areas we need to strengthen right now though so there will be casualties.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 23 May 18:04
Robbie Crawford confirmed at Partick.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Thu 23 May 18:12
Had the budget allowed I think we would have held on to Paul Allan. Maybe a change of scenery will be good for him. You never know in a season or two he may be back a better player
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Fri 24 May 19:21
Livingston sign Lewis Smith from the Accies.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 25 May 09:03
That`s three first-team players Morton have lost to rival clubs - Muirhead, Crawford and Oakley - and hasn`t Strapp left too?
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Topic Originator: jojo
Date: Sat 25 May 09:11
Allows Inrie to bring in three more 6 ft plus hatchet men .
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 25 May 10:43
Wee eck - Strapps out of contact and been offered a new contract but hasn’t signed yet. Possible waiting to see who else offers him a deal. I’d imagine we’d be monitoring the situation as a replacement for Edwards.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 25 May 10:59
Cheers, AA. I read somewhere that Morton`s budget is out-of-line with most in the Championship and that their board had given it a boost but it doesn`t seem to have stopped the exodus. It must be sickening for Dougie Imrie but he`s a shrewd operator. It`ll be interesting to see how he fills the gaps.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 25 May 11:42
Hibs legends Paul Hanlon and Lewis Stevenson have both been approached by Premiership hopefuls Raith Rovers after the pair were released by the Easter Road club. (Edinburgh Evening News)
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 25 May 11:49
I know Hanlon sister and so far he hasn`t spoken to anyone
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 25 May 12:46
"Strapps out of contact and been offered a new contract but hasn’t signed yet. Possible waiting to see who else offers him a deal"
its reported to be less than what he was just on and thats with Morton increasing their budget and offers to other players.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 25 May 13:37
It was strange what happened to him last season. For the first half of the season he was without a club then he signed a short-term contract with Morton around January time which took him to the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 25 May 13:47
Anton Dowds signs a 1 year deal with Ayr
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sat 25 May 14:16
Dowds and Oakley will be a very physical front two.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 25 May 14:45
Would have liked to see Dowds come to us. He’s a proven goalscorer in the Championship. It would be great to see someone play upfront with Kane with how strong he is at holding the ball
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 25 May 14:48
Gaston signs for Stirling Albion - strange one
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 25 May 15:08
Quote:
RossF, Sat 25 May 14:45
Would have liked to see Dowds come to us. He’s a proven goalscorer in the Championship. It would be great to see someone play upfront with Kane with how strong he is at holding the ball
For me, we need to play Kane and Wighton up top together with Todd behind.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 25 May 15:27
A full fit Wighton could be a different player next season playing with Kane. Forgot all about him actually!
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Topic Originator: Biggles
Date: Sat 25 May 15:39
If we had played 2 up front last year (regardless of the personnel) we would have far more goals than what we ended up with that`s for sure.
Granted you need the strength in the midfield to allow the 2 up front however keeping teams on the back foot and playing with 2 wingers feeding a front 2 makes life torrid for the defending team.
Our players are more than good enough to do this if set up accordingly
Will he save it? Save it??? He never bloody saw it! Like a bullet!
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 25 May 17:00
"If we had played 2 up front last year (regardless of the personnel) we would have far more goals than what we ended up with that`s for sure"
Not sure how you come to that conclusion. For one thing, it would been the same strikers who weren`t exactly setting games alight. It would also had left us very light in midfield meaning we`d have less of the ball and therefore creating less. A 4-2-3-1 is no less an attacking formation as a 3-5-2 or a 4-4-2, and simply saying that two up front equals more goals flies in the face of pretty much every league and team around the world.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 25 May 17:15
We would have a chance of scoring more goals with 2 up front.
Post Edited (Sat 25 May 17:44)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 25 May 17:40
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 25 May 10:59
Cheers, AA. I read somewhere that Morton`s budget is out-of-line with most in the Championship and that their board had given it a boost but it doesn`t seem to have stopped the exodus. It must be sickening for Dougie Imrie but he`s a shrewd operator. It`ll be interesting to see how he fills the gaps.
Morton are fan owned ,and have made a very small profit the last 18 months
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 25 May 17:54
Who decides on their player budget then?
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Sat 25 May 18:04
Quote:
Parfect69, Sat 25 May 17:15
We would have a chance of scoring more goals with 2 up front.
You’ll need to explain that one to me? If it’s that easy why not play 3 upfront.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sat 25 May 19:24
Think you know what I mean
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Topic Originator: GG4
Date: Sat 25 May 19:33
Joel Nouble maybe worth a shout? He`s out of contract on the 31st May.
Always like the look of him tbh.
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Topic Originator: Biggles
Date: Sat 25 May 21:03
Quote:
kelty_par, Sat 25 May 17:00
"If we had played 2 up front last year (regardless of the personnel) we would have far more goals than what we ended up with that`s for sure"
Not sure how you come to that conclusion. For one thing, it would been the same strikers who weren`t exactly setting games alight. It would also had left us very light in midfield meaning we`d have less of the ball and therefore creating less. A 4-2-3-1 is no less an attacking formation as a 3-5-2 or a 4-4-2, and simply saying that two up front equals more goals flies in the face of pretty much every league and team around the world.
Ill attempt to give my reasoned thoughts. When playing with one striker they need to be good enough in many aspects of the game to be able to do it on their own. None of our forwards have all the attributes to be able to do it (until Kane arrived where he is faster, stronger, better touch, better link up play etc than the other strikers on our books)
Wighton has a proven record of being a goal scorer. When he was asked to play up front on his own, he wasn`t able to have the same impact on games as when playing alongside someone be it that other player holding up play, generating space, flick on etc.
Mccann is a workhorse but not a natural striker. He has shown he doesn`t have the attributes to play up on his own but what he does have is movement, guile and great strength.
The year we were promoted, many games we started with one up top and changed at half time to play 2 up. Eventually later in the season we started to play more with 2 up front.
Will he save it? Save it??? He never bloody saw it! Like a bullet!
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 25 May 22:22
Joel Nouble would be a tremendous signing but I’m sure he won’t be short on offers. Never say never though.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 25 May 22:25
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sat 25 May 22:22
Joel Nouble would be a tremendous signing but I’m sure he won’t be short on offers. Never say never though.
He was unstoppable the day he scored his hatrick at eep but I`d have thought he`s too similar to Kane?
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Sun 26 May 00:59
Derek Garston is 37YO, Stirling Albion will be a great move for him at his age.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: Bovril Man
Date: Sun 26 May 07:43
Quote:
GG4, Sat 25 May 19:33
Joel Nouble maybe worth a shout? He`s out of contract on the 31st May.
Always like the look of him tbh.
I wouldn’t trust Nouble week on week to turn up. When Martindale desperately needed him to perform this year he was more often than not disinterested/ineffectual. Hasn’t been the same player since his rumoured big move to either Hearts or Hibs this time last year didn’t materialise.
Let him be someone else’s expensive flop.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 26 May 11:19
I would be very surprised if we bring another striker on board. At the start of last season JM said that we did not need four. We have four on our books just now..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 26 May 23:14
Callum Fordyce leaving his role as player / assistant manager at Airdrie.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 26 May 23:16
Deleted as I was saying the same
Post Edited (Sun 26 May 23:17)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 May 00:08
It seems that it`s his decision. Isn`t he Rhys McCabe`s cousin? This is from the club website:-
May 26, 2024
Defender Fordyce moves on
Player/assistant-manager Callum Fordyce has chosen to call time on a successful five-year spell with Airdrieonians, and will move on this summer having left a huge mark during his time with the Diamonds.
Initially signed in May 2019, Callum brought his considerable experience to the backline and made an immediate impression on the Diamonds support, winning the Player of the Year award in each of his first two seasons.
Callum’s influence on the pitch was plain to see, and a spell as club captain followed before moving into the player/assistant-manager role in May 2022.
Consistently solid at the back, Callum leaves us having been inducted into the Airdrieonians Hall of Fame in his final season at the club, and we thank him for his considerable contribution and wish him all the very best with his next move.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 27 May 08:49
Yes, Fordyce and McCabe are cousins, eck.
I`ve always felt that Fordyce was very unlucky to be released by the Pars. He was a good player when he signed from Livi and was immediately installed as team captain by AJ. He then suffered that horrible injury against Ayr. It was described as accidental, but Callum felt it was reckless, and I thought so too at the time. He was then rushed back for a game at Easter Road, where he was arguably MOM, but made the mistake which led to Hibs winner. In the next game, at home to St Mirren, he made two mistakes from which the visitors scored and he was hooked at halftime. Fortunately, the Pars were able to come back to win an exciting game 4-3. He was never quite the same player after that, no doubt because it takes time to recover, both physically and psychologically, after such a long layoff.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 May 08:55
I wonder if there has been a falling-out between him and McCabe?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 May 10:48
There`s a lot of speculation on the Airdrie thread on Pie and Bovril that Fordyce and McCabe have fallen out but that`s all it is - speculation, nothing definite. There`s also a feeling he`s on his way to the Rovers because of the Ian Murray connection.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 27 May 12:31
Shaun Byrne is a man in demand after Raith Rovers` failure to win promotion via the playoffs.
The Dundee midfielder is out of contract this summer and won`t be offered a new deal by the Dark Blues.
Raith are keen to land him permanently, but face competition from Fife rivals Dunfermline.
Partick Thistle, former club Livingston and Northern Irish Champions Larne are also in the mix, according to the Courier.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 27 May 13:39
Daily Record:
Stuart McKinstry has been offered the chance to extend his Queen’s Park stay by another two years.
The former Leeds kid joined the Spiders last October and impressed enough in his 21 appearances for the Championship outfit for boss Callum Davidson to slap a new extension down on the table.
However, the Queen’s boss faces a nervous wait, with the 21-year-old also attracting rival interest from Partick Thistle, Dunfermline and English League One side Carlisle.
Scotland youth internationalist McKinstry was released by Leeds last summer having spent the previous campaign on loan at former club Motherwell.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Mon 27 May 14:30
GJS93 wrote:
> Daily Record:
>
> Stuart McKinstry has been offered the chance to extend his
> Queen’s Park stay by another two years.
>
> The former Leeds kid joined the Spiders last October and
> impressed enough in his 21 appearances for the Championship
> outfit for boss Callum Davidson to slap a new extension down on
> the table.
>
> However, the Queen’s boss faces a nervous wait, with the
> 21-year-old also attracting rival interest from Partick
> Thistle, Dunfermline and English League One side Carlisle.
>
> Scotland youth internationalist McKinstry was released by Leeds
> last summer having spent the previous campaign on loan at
> former club Motherwell.
>
>
I`ve never really noticed him tbh, any good ?
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Mon 27 May 16:42
QP fans don`t rate him I don`t think.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft
Date: Mon 27 May 18:33
Morton sign Lamar Reynolds from Maidstone Inited, striker
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 May 18:38
David Martindale is staying on as Livingston manager.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 27 May 18:38
I can see us being in for Byrne, another Dundee player mcpake will know. Not sure if his loan spell at raith was considered a success, had heard he made very little impact. Wonder who else Dundee have released?
Mckinstray would be interesting, assume whoever scouts for us must have at least seen him play as he hasn’t been at st Johnstone or Dundee.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 May 18:50
He played for QP against us. Not sure he`s any better than Mochrie.
Post Edited (Mon 27 May 19:19)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 28 May 03:59
Quote:
Berkey, Mon 27 May 18:38
I can see us being in for Byrne, another Dundee player mcpake will know. Not sure if his loan spell at raith was considered a success, had heard he made very little impact. Wonder who else Dundee have released?
Mckinstray would be interesting, assume whoever scouts for us must have at least seen him play as he hasn’t been at st Johnstone or Dundee.
Honestly, will you just give it a rest? Its getting tedious and boring now…….
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 28 May 07:44
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 28 May 03:59
Quote:
Berkey, Mon 27 May 18:38
I can see us being in for Byrne, another Dundee player mcpake will know. Not sure if his loan spell at raith was considered a success, had heard he made very little impact. Wonder who else Dundee have released?
Mckinstray would be interesting, assume whoever scouts for us must have at least seen him play as he hasn’t been at st Johnstone or Dundee.
Honestly, will you just give it a rest? Its getting tedious and boring now…….
Thing is he thinks he`s a comedian
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Gusmcpherson
Date: Tue 28 May 07:55
Hearing we are looking at some striker called Bennet winter.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 28 May 08:11
Quote:
Gusmcpherson, Tue 28 May 07:55
Hearing we are looking at some striker called Bennet winter.
Dunno how reliable your source is, Gus, but I`ve just googled him. He`s 20 years old, a striker for St Pauli, has played 21 games and scored 9 goals....
Sounds like he could do a job for us. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Tue 28 May 08:11)
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Topic Originator: Gusmcpherson
Date: Tue 28 May 08:26
Sounds like it might just be nonsense then 😂
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Topic Originator: purekozma
Date: Tue 28 May 08:37
Cmon guys no rumour names unless it`s in papers. Rovers and others have spies searching for available players too.
‘League 1 title winners 2023.’
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 28 May 08:39
I find it worrying that the reason given publicly and I`m assuming to Allan himself is financial. He is still relatively young and I`d be comfortable saying nowhere near our top earner. So it`s either a throwaway line or we are in deep trouble if we head into another season with this squad.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 28 May 09:16
Bennett Winter plays for St Pauli 2 (reserves) and has 9 goals in 20.
Could be something in it, you never know. It would good if we started seeing some players from the German game coming over.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 28 May 09:26
Played against us in the friendly. We obviously have the link, so fingers crossed.
Post Edited (Tue 28 May 09:26)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 28 May 09:55
Haven`t St Pauli just been promoted to the Bundesliga? Signing him would be like attracting someone from Leicester/Ipswich/Southampton. What would be the motivation for the player and how could we come anywhere close to matching his wages?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 28 May 10:00
The big money the club gets for Edwards could be used to pay an incoming player from Germany ?
Fantasy Football anybody ?
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 28 May 10:16
Re: Close Season Deals
Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 28 May 09:55
Haven`t St Pauli just been promoted to the Bundesliga? Signing him would be like attracting someone from Leicester/Ipswich/Southampton. What would be the motivation for the player and how could we come anywhere close to matching his wages?
They have, but he doesn`t play for the 1st team, he`s in their youth/reserves. Not sure of his contract status, but could be potentially a loan.
Post Edited (Tue 28 May 10:22)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 28 May 11:15
"And what about work permit post Brexit?"
pay the fee/costs required to go through the SFA exemptions panel and hope to convince them the player merits the work permit.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Tue 28 May 19:33
Fordyce to the Rovers
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 28 May 20:39
Quote:
Gaz3822, Tue 28 May 19:33
Fordyce to the Rovers
Probably had a fall out cause he wanted more money 😂
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 28 May 23:06
Fordyce won’t strengthen the rovers as his legs have gone but he could be good in a coaching capacity…
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 28 May 23:28
How many coaches do Raith need?
Looking at their bench on TV last couple of games, never saw Potter, Cameron was there plus someone on Murray`s shoulder that I didn`t recognise.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 28 May 23:34
2+2=5 of course, but maybe Ian Murray is about to leave Rovers and Rhys McCabe is being lined up to take over? Would maybe explain Fordyce not wanting to be tied to a new deal at Airdrie. He could now do the player/assistant role at Rovers.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 28 May 23:41
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Tue 28 May 23:28
How many coaches do Raith need?
Looking at their bench on TV last couple of games, never saw Potter, Cameron was there plus someone on Murray`s shoulder that I didn`t recognise.
John Potter isn’t strictly a coach, but a Technical Director working on implementing their long term strategic objectives and overseeing their football operations.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 29 May 08:56
Quote:
Jeffery, Tue 28 May 23:34
2 2=5 of course, but maybe Ian Murray is about to leave Rovers and Rhys McCabe is being lined up to take over? Would maybe explain Fordyce not wanting to be tied to a new deal at Airdrie. He could now do the player/assistant role at Rovers.
Im not sure of the legalities of that…..feels a bit like the football version of insider trading if that happened 😂 imagine he moved and McCabe decided to stay! Or Murray didnt leave 😂
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Wed 29 May 09:26
McCabe has just signed a new contract at Airdrie, rumours that there was a falling out with Fordyce.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 29 May 09:41
Stevie Mallan looking for a move back to Scotland after leaving Salford, doubt he will be short of suitors. Mentions in his interview that he is looking for Prem/Championship.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 29 May 16:36
Seems we aren’t in for Byrne.
Reports stating Livingston are favourites to sign him but have a fight with Partick and Raith, no mention of us.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 29 May 16:44
"LIVINGSTON could be set for a reunion with midfielder Shaun Byrne - but face competition from Championship rivals Raith and Partick."
they just signed Reece McAlear after being released by Tranmere, one i wouldnt have minded seeing at EEP.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 29 May 17:20
I really rate Byrne but with Hamilton, Chalmers and Otoo on the books who can play that role, we’re well covered in that position.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 29 May 17:35
Former Loanee Bruce Anderson has signed a 2 year deal with Kilmarnock.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 29 May 20:17
No doubt Martindale will still be pleading they`re skint though.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 29 May 22:28
Chalmers will surely know he’s going to be a bench player next season? So why not go and try to move.. he can pick up the wages on the bench but surely he can move on?
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Thu 30 May 07:01
Have to agree with Alter Ego. If we are serious about achieving a Play-Off spot or going for automatic promotion we need better players than Joe Chalmers. He sat on the bench the last few weeks and never got a sniff, all the while when Allan was fit he was chosen ahead of Joe.
I think we go at the moment with O’too and Hamilton the midfield paring but really think we need another couple of central midfielders amongst other areas which need addressed.
Byrne would have been an upgrade on Chalmers as would Alston who has been mentioned. Alston with his experience would slot into that midfield area as a valuable squad member.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Thu 30 May 07:27
I’m pretty sure a few of these guys including chalmers would be free to leave if they wanted to.
We let go of all out of contract players which suggests more would have gone if they were not out of contract.
We just have to hope a few of them fancy playing so move on.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Thu 30 May 08:36
Andy Condisine leaving St Johnstone
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Topic Originator: dafc111
Date: Thu 30 May 18:43
Raith have signed Lewis Stevenson. Would have liked to see him here
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Thu 30 May 18:55
dafc111 wrote:
> Raith have signed Lewis Stevenson. Would have liked to see him
> here
Too old too slow, they can carry on signing players like that. great news for the rest of the league. They can crack on with the slowest defence in the division they’ll sink like stone.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 30 May 19:00
More digs at us by their stupid childish cringey SM team.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 30 May 19:06
No way he was coming to us, despite the paper talk. Rovers boy from a Rovers family.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 30 May 19:07
I was thinking Raith might not have a pot to p1ss in after having such a large squad this season. It felt like it might be promotion or bust for them.
It`s looking like they still have money for signings though, Lewis Stevenson wouldn`t come cheap. I`m glad they`ve got him and we didn`t pay what will be big wages for a player of his advanced years. They seem to have the total opposite signing strategy to us, going for 30 year old experienced players that are at their peak with no real sell on value, while we are going for up and coming players. I know what I prefer, although a few experienced heads would help.
I note that they have more than doubled their average crowd to around 4,180, which isn`t bad compared to sub 2,000 crowd the year before. Our average of 5,444 is also up, best average crowd since 2005. Good to see that even with them having a great season and us struggling we are still by far the big team in Fife
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 30 May 19:11
Throwing money at experienced, expensive senior pros whilst they have a potential pitch replacement looming over them to get to the big leagues. Bold strategy.
Post Edited (Thu 30 May 19:12)
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Thu 30 May 19:12
Be funny when they inevitably plummet next season.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Thu 30 May 19:16
They have a fairly structured wage policy where most of the players are on the same salary, only difference will be bonuses
Unfortunately we have at least 4 players on a higher wage than any of the Raith squad....
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 30 May 19:18
Last I heard Raith were expecting their first year under the new owners to be profitable? In their first 6 months they increased revenue by 600k whilst their outlay only increased by £100k.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Thu 30 May 19:19
Their social media stuff is actually spot on and quite funny. Refreshing to see, I wish we had anything remotely close.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 30 May 20:23
So now we`ve got somebody who knows our wages structure and Raith`s as well!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 30 May 20:27
Quote:
AlterPar, Thu 30 May 19:19
Their social media stuff is actually spot on and quite funny. Refreshing to see, I wish we had anything remotely close.
It really isn`t. Completely cringe worthy and we`re not the only fans who think so. It`s like they`ve hired a media student from Fife College to do it. Whoever is doing it is obsessed with us. Best season in years whilst we have one of our worst and still sell fewer tickets 😂
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 30 May 20:27
There’s a real feel good factor around Raith at the moment, from the outside looking in they seem to be doing a lot right.
Not as convinced as others that it may lead to a car crash.
Post Edited (Thu 30 May 20:33)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 30 May 21:12
Quote:
jake89, Thu 30 May 20:27
Quote:
AlterPar, Thu 30 May 19:19
Their social media stuff is actually spot on and quite funny. Refreshing to see, I wish we had anything remotely close.
It really isn`t. Completely cringe worthy and we`re not the only fans who think so. It`s like they`ve hired a media student from Fife College to do it. Whoever is doing it is obsessed with us. Best season in years whilst we have one of our worst and still sell fewer tickets 😂
This 💯.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Thu 30 May 21:24
I disagree but that’s life!
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 30 May 21:39
Whatever you think of their content, it is serving it`s purpose for them. Their announcement today has been viewed over 560k times in just a few hours and on top of the publicity it gains for them, X(Twitter) is monetised unless I`m mistaken?
For context, our season ticket announcement 3 weeks ago has 45k views.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 30 May 21:45
I think their social media is cringy to be honest, but it might appeal to people with lower than average IQs, and so it seems to be doing okay on social media. Maybe we should start giving them a slagging on Twitter (X) and play them at their own game
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 30 May 22:14
X offers heehaw. It`s like 0.005p per impression and that`s assuming someone is signed up. I guarantee the majority of views are from people sharing it and laughing. Fair play to them if they`re happy to be the court jester.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Thu 30 May 22:29
Their announcement video for Stevenson was very good tbf
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 30 May 22:42
Enjoy their social media stuff. You can see it`s working too with how bitter some in this thread are over it too.
We are the wee team currently, let them mock
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 30 May 23:03
Quote:
wee eck, Thu 30 May 20:23
So now we`ve got somebody who knows our wages structure and Raith`s as well!
You obviously know both to Diss this ?
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 30 May 23:30
Quote:
kelty_par, Thu 30 May 22:29
Their announcement video for Stevenson was very good tbf
Really? It was embarrassing. Obviously folk like you and all the Raith fans must be easy pleased.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 30 May 23:46
Quote:
da_no_1, Thu 30 May 23:30
Quote:
kelty_par, Thu 30 May 22:29
Their announcement video for Stevenson was very good tbf
Really? It was embarrassing. Obviously folk like you and all the Raith fans must be easy pleased.
Don`t watch it then? Dear lord
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Fri 31 May 00:45
I`m reading that Stevenson is 36. OK maybe if he was a goalie but that`s well past it for an outfield player. Very glad we weren`t suckered into that one.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 31 May 07:42
Livingston have made 8 signings already this close season .
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Fri 31 May 07:47
‘Lower than average IQ’s’ and ‘Folk like you’ against a different opinion. Absolute twats man, this forum really is vile.
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Topic Originator: GG4
Date: Fri 31 May 07:50
Topic Originator: AlterPar like
Date: Fri 31 May 07:47
‘Lower than average IQ’s’ and ‘Folk like you’ against a different opinion. Absolute twats man, this forum really is vile.
Bell end alert.
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Fri 31 May 08:09
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Post Edited (Fri 31 May 08:10)
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Fri 31 May 08:39
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Paralex, Fri 31 May 00:45
I`m reading that Stevenson is 36. OK maybe if he was a goalie but that`s well past it for an outfield player. Very glad we weren`t suckered into that one.
You wouldn`t have signed Brewster then? Brian Graham just won player of the year at 36 and Stephen Dobbie and Charlie Adam have also won it in recent times at that age.Luca Modric will probably play in the Champions League final this weekend and he is going on 39.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 31 May 09:08
Quote:
Paralex, Fri 31 May 00:45
I`m reading that Stevenson is 36. OK maybe if he was a goalie but that`s well past it for an outfield player. Very glad we weren`t suckered into that one.
I mean, its not “well past it” at all 😂
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Topic Originator: Gusmcpherson
Date: Fri 31 May 12:46
Raith seem to have it more right on and off the park than we do at the moment. People would be surprised to know they don’t have as big a budget as us even last season. Stevenson will do a job for them but not sure he will last two years. As for Chalmers we should be offloading him if we want to improve
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 31 May 13:34
Quote:
Gusmcpherson, Fri 31 May 12:46
Raith seem to have it more right on and off the park than we do at the moment. People would be surprised to know they don’t have as big a budget as us even last season. Stevenson will do a job for them but not sure he will last two years. As for Chalmers we should be offloading him if we want to improve
How would "offloading Chalmers" help us improve, Gus? And why would he agree to go elsewhere when he has a contract with the Pars and is highly regarded by the management team and his teammates for his contribution both on and off the pitch. He`s a model pro, trains well, helps the younger players and contributes to the harmony and camaraderie of the playing squad.
Still think we`d be better to get rid of him?
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Fri 31 May 13:35)
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Topic Originator: Gusmcpherson
Date: Fri 31 May 13:41
Yes I do, as his wages should be better used elsewhere on players that demand a spot in first 11 rather than offer support to first team like you’re suggesting.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Fri 31 May 14:06
Quote:
GG Riva, Fri 31 May 13:34
Quote:
Gusmcpherson, Fri 31 May 12:46
Raith seem to have it more right on and off the park than we do at the moment. People would be surprised to know they don’t have as big a budget as us even last season. Stevenson will do a job for them but not sure he will last two years. As for Chalmers we should be offloading him if we want to improve
How would "offloading Chalmers" help us improve, Gus? And why would he agree to go elsewhere when he has a contract with the Pars and is highly regarded by the management team and his teammates for his contribution both on and off the pitch. He`s a model pro, trains well, helps the younger players and contributes to the harmony and camaraderie of the playing squad.
Still think we`d be better to get rid of him?
Yes. He`s not good enough if promotion is our aim.
The rest is commendable but it`s on pitch contribution that matters when budgets are tight.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 31 May 14:24
I wonder what it would do for our recruitment if we got the reputation of being a club that didn`t honour its contracts.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Fri 31 May 15:22
So many posts seem, one way or another, to get round to a discussion of Joe Chalmers. He just isn`t the liability on the park that some suggest he is. He may lack some qualities that others have but he patently possesses qualities that no-one else has. If he works on some of the qualities he lacks, he can still be an excellent player for us. Everyone has a dip in form at some stage of the season and Joe is no exception. If we have more of a spark up front, taking the weight off the midfield and defence I`m sure Joe will flourish. He deserves that chance.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Fri 31 May 15:24
Paralex wrote:
> So many posts seem, one way or another, to get round to a
> discussion of Joe Chalmers. He just isn`t the liability on the
> park that some suggest he is. He may lack some qualities that
> others have but he patently possesses qualities that no-one
> else has. If he works on some of the qualities he lacks, he can
> still be an excellent player for us. Everyone has a dip in form
> at some stage of the season and Joe is no exception. If we have
> more of a spark up front, taking the weight off the midfield
> and defence I`m sure Joe will flourish. He deserves that
> chance.
>
>
said it a few times, its because he dosnt go steaming into tackles so he must be a shitebag.
Scottish fans mentality
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 31 May 15:30
The best anyone can do is have an educated guess at budget/spend. There could be a difference there between the teams but really who knows.
What I would say about Rovers is that the accessibility of funds (either in the bank of fed in ad-hoc by their wealthy fan investors) appears different between the teams. When Raith need someone they seem to move far more quickly than we do.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 31 May 15:39
The thing about money and investors is they`re happy to chuck it about when the sun is shining but quickly close up shop when the rain starts and the reality hits that there is no money to be made in Scottish football unless you`re in it for the long run.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 31 May 16:24
On 2 separate occasions raith were 1 result away from the season being a financial success. The board at starks will be feeling confident in their strategy at the moment
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Fri 31 May 16:51
To be fair raith aren`t doing much wrong where we limped to safety and lost a fortune. I find it funny how upset some get over a comic style photo posted on social media.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 31 May 17:04
`Lost a fortune`? We`ll have to wait and see the results for the current year, which ends today.
Obsessing over a rival is the very definition of a `wee team` in my book. Let them get on with it and see where it takes them. They`ve made mistakes, just like us. Imagine if we`d signed Zak Rudden instead of Chris Kane.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Fri 31 May 17:15
I’d be content keeping chalmers….if we managed to offload o’hallaran and McCann.
Hamilton and Falkirk are better than what went down so we will need to improve the team to make sure we keep up.
At the moment I think raith should be favourites for the league with livi just behind.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Fri 31 May 20:28
I think we have the core of the squad so agree I think we will only bring in 2-3 players at most. I think this is a big season for McCann. He is still raw but has the physical strength needed for this league. I see Craig Chalmers as an integral part of the squad too. We lacked movement up front last season so never got the best from him. We have options at the back even if Edwards moves on so I don`t see too many problems there. I think one in midfield and another full back are the more pressing needs. Maybe one or two loan players to make up the squad would be all I would expect.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 31 May 20:30
Quote:
Indiapar, Fri 31 May 20:28
I think we have the core of the squad so agree I think we will only bring in 2-3 players at most. I think this is a big season for McCann. He is still raw but has the physical strength needed for this league. I see Craig Chalmers as an integral part of the squad too. We lacked movement up front last season so never got the best from him. We have options at the back even if Edwards moves on so I don`t see too many problems there. I think one in midfield and another full back are the more pressing needs. Maybe one or two loan players to make up the squad would be all I would expect.
I know we could do with toughening up but I don`t think putting a rugby player in midfield is a good strategy.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 31 May 21:06
I dunno Jake - they wee tight shorts and nae necks might get some of us all a-glow
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC
Date: Fri 31 May 21:17
Absolutely outrageous message to send. If a man said this about a women’s team everyone including you would be up in arms, what makes it okay to think you can just sexualise men? Absolutely disgusting.
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Fri 31 May 21:25
Agree Kyle. Disgusting comment no need for that.
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Topic Originator: Scottdoherty
Date: Fri 31 May 21:29
Exactly that Kyle bud. And far from the first time. Feel a bit sick tbh.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 31 May 21:57
Lost for words. Absolutely nothing to be offended about in what Buffy said. If the show was on the other foot no-one would bat an eyelid.
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Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC
Date: Fri 31 May 22:05
If that was said about a women’s team it would be viewed as sexist and disgraceful and rightly so. No excuse just because it’s about men. Absolutely disgraceful and anyone who thinks otherwise is an absolute clown.
Post Edited (Fri 31 May 22:09)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 31 May 22:34
Quote:
buffy, Fri 31 May 21:06
I dunno Jake - they wee tight shorts and nae necks might get some of us all a-glow
I was watching the Scotland v Israel match tonight. The wee tight shorts of the Israeli centre back had me all a-glow.
Is this acceptable for me to say?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 31 May 22:47
Quote:
red-star-par, Fri 31 May 22:34
Quote:
buffy, Fri 31 May 21:06
I dunno Jake - they wee tight shorts and nae necks might get some of us all a-glow
I was watching the Scotland v Israel match tonight. The wee tight shorts of the Israeli centre back had me all a-glow.
Is this acceptable for me to say?
Alkisi? Not on her best form tbh. Subbed at half-time.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Fri 31 May 23:03
Can we take the sting out of this please.
Anyone who knows Buffy will be aware it was tongue in cheek and no ill intent at all.
That doesn’t make it right before people jump the gun and folk are quite right to disagree and challenge where they see fit for any wrongdoing but please don’t turn this into a mob mentality and using phrases ‘absolutely disgusting’ ‘absolute clowns’ ‘outrageous’ ‘feeling a bit sick’.
Please be more constructive and a little more considerate in responses as I’m very worried that Buffy will be reading those posts above and will be becoming very overwhelmed and lonely for what was intended to be a harmless (albeit ill judged) light hearted comment to Jake. That isn’t right either.
Admin - would be good if you can just close this thread and enable a new one to be started in its place.
Post Edited (Fri 31 May 23:03)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 31 May 23:06
Absolutely spot on Berry. A totally embarrassing over reaction by some.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Fri 31 May 23:12
Never understood why women get a free pass for that patter, when men get, rightfully, hounded. Double standards, eh.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 31 May 23:23
It`s the over reaction though isn`t it? Had someone said something about physically admiring a female player and then someone posted about how they were clutching their pearls and `feeling a bit sick tbh` because of said comment I`d also feel that would also be over the top as well
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 31 May 23:27
I’m absolutely fine 😂 but thanks for the thoughts Berry, Jake and TOWK. Yer guid soils and clearly know my humour.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 31 May 23:47
Buffy ,on another topic have you got your season tkt yet
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Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC
Date: Sat 1 Jun 03:11
Nope I don’t accept this at all. If a man said this everyone would be up in arms, why is it acceptable because a woman said this. Absolutely outrageous and it’s clearly double standards, anyone who doesn’t think so is clearly a clown and can message me privately so I can tell them how much of an absolute clown they are.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Sat 1 Jun 05:53
Clearly a good night had in Tappies by sounds of it…
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 1 Jun 05:57
Quote:
GG Riva, Fri 31 May 13:34
Quote:
Gusmcpherson, Fri 31 May 12:46
Raith seem to have it more right on and off the park than we do at the moment. People would be surprised to know they don’t have as big a budget as us even last season. Stevenson will do a job for them but not sure he will last two years. As for Chalmers we should be offloading him if we want to improve
How would "offloading Chalmers" help us improve, Gus? And why would he agree to go elsewhere when he has a contract with the Pars and is highly regarded by the management team and his teammates for his contribution both on and off the pitch. He`s a model pro, trains well, helps the younger players and contributes to the harmony and camaraderie of the playing squad.
Still think we`d be better to get rid of him?
Since I failed to convince you with my reply to your post, I`ll add the bleedingly obvious comment that "offloading" Chalmers would only improve the playing side of the squad if we were able to bring in a significantly better player who was unlikely to disrupt the current harmony of the dressing room,
Ask yourself. Is such a player readily available? Can we meet his wage demands? Is he willing to join the Pars? Is he under contract with another club and are they prepared to release him? Does another club want Chalmers and and are they willing to at least match his Pars wages?
Not as straightforward as you seem to think, is it?
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Sat 01 Jun 05:58)
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sat 1 Jun 07:49
Quote:
GG Riva, Sat 1 Jun 05:57
Quote:
GG Riva, Fri 31 May 13:34
Quote:
Gusmcpherson, Fri 31 May 12:46
Raith seem to have it more right on and off the park than we do at the moment. People would be surprised to know they don’t have as big a budget as us even last season. Stevenson will do a job for them but not sure he will last two years. As for Chalmers we should be offloading him if we want to improve
How would "offloading Chalmers" help us improve, Gus? And why would he agree to go elsewhere when he has a contract with the Pars and is highly regarded by the management team and his teammates for his contribution both on and off the pitch. He`s a model pro, trains well, helps the younger players and contributes to the harmony and camaraderie of the playing squad.
Still think we`d be better to get rid of him?
Since I failed to convince you with my reply to your post, I`ll add the bleedingly obvious comment that "offloading" Chalmers would only improve the playing side of the squad if we were able to bring in a significantly better player who was unlikely to disrupt the current harmony of the dressing room,
Ask yourself. Is such a player readily available? Can we meet his wage demands? Is he willing to join the Pars? Is he under contract with another club and are they prepared to release him? Does another club want Chalmers and and are they willing to at least match his Pars wages?
Not as straightforward as you seem to think, is it?
What a condescending reply.
I think everyone understands how a transfer window works mate. That doesn`t change the fact that, IMO, Chalmers isn`t going to take us to the next level.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Sat 1 Jun 08:05
DBA wrote:
> Quote:
GG Riva, Sat 1 Jun 05:57
>
> Quote:
GG Riva, Fri 31 May 13:34
>
> Quote:
Gusmcpherson, Fri 31 May 12:46
>
> Raith seem to have it more right on and off the park than we do
> at the moment. People would be surprised to know they don’t
> have as big a budget as us even last season. Stevenson will do
> a job for them but not sure he will last two years. As for
> Chalmers we should be offloading him if we want to
> improve
>
> How would "offloading Chalmers" help us improve, Gus? And why
> would he agree to go elsewhere when he has a contract with the
> Pars and is highly regarded by the management team and his
> teammates for his contribution both on and off the pitch. He`s
> a model pro, trains well, helps the younger players and
> contributes to the harmony and camaraderie of the playing
> squad.
>
> Still think we`d be better to get rid of him?
>
> Since I failed to convince you with my reply to your post, I`ll
> add the bleedingly obvious comment that "offloading" Chalmers
> would only improve the playing side of the squad if we were
> able to bring in a significantly better player who was unlikely
> to disrupt the current harmony of the dressing room,
>
> Ask yourself. Is such a player readily available? Can we meet
> his wage demands? Is he willing to join the Pars? Is he under
> contract with another club and are they prepared to release
> him? Does another club want Chalmers and and are they willing
> to at least match his Pars wages?
>
> Not as straightforward as you seem to think, is it?
>
> What a condescending reply.
>
> I think everyone understands how a transfer window works mate.
> That doesn`t change the fact that, IMO, Chalmers isn`t going to
> take us to the next level.
I think we should consolodate first before trying to go for the next league
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 1 Jun 08:30
Quote:
DBA, Sat 1 Jun 07:49
Quote:
GG Riva, Sat 1 Jun 05:57
Quote:
GG Riva, Fri 31 May 13:34
Quote:
Gusmcpherson, Fri 31 May 12:46
Raith seem to have it more right on and off the park than we do at the moment. People would be surprised to know they don’t have as big a budget as us even last season. Stevenson will do a job for them but not sure he will last two years. As for Chalmers we should be offloading him if we want to improve
How would "offloading Chalmers" help us improve, Gus? And why would he agree to go elsewhere when he has a contract with the Pars and is highly regarded by the management team and his teammates for his contribution both on and off the pitch. He`s a model pro, trains well, helps the younger players and contributes to the harmony and camaraderie of the playing squad.
Still think we`d be better to get rid of him?
Since I failed to convince you with my reply to your post, I`ll add the bleedingly obvious comment that "offloading" Chalmers would only improve the playing side of the squad if we were able to bring in a significantly better player who was unlikely to disrupt the current harmony of the dressing room,
Ask yourself. Is such a player readily available? Can we meet his wage demands? Is he willing to join the Pars? Is he under contract with another club and are they prepared to release him? Does another club want Chalmers and and are they willing to at least match his Pars wages?
Not as straightforward as you seem to think, is it?
What a condescending reply.
I think everyone understands how a transfer window works mate. That doesn`t change the fact that, IMO, Chalmers isn`t going to take us to the next level.
Apologies, DBA. My post does have a condescending tone when I read it back. It was certainly not my intention. I just find some comments `re Chalmers frustrating. Absolutely nobody has suggested he will "take us to the next level."
The manager and CEO believed Chalmers was worth an extended contract, whether we agree or not. He accepted it. What makes folk think he can just be "offloaded" just because they don`t rate him? Should he be actively looking for another club, in your opinion?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 1 Jun 09:40
Quote:
Scottdoherty, Fri 31 May 21:29
Exactly that Kyle bud. And far from the first time. Feel a bit sick tbh.
1st post? Jog on
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Sat 1 Jun 09:45
What`s the chances of keeping this thread, just for updates of deals, rather than having to trawl through post after post of petty squabbling?
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 1 Jun 10:22
Deja vu….last close season ended up a squabble due to lack of activity on the recruitment front…At least this year we will have the euros to take our mind off EEP things for a while..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Jun 10:30
Being a Pars fan is complaining if we don`t make immediate signings whilst also complaining about panic signings.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 1 Jun 10:41
Jake, I thought it was complaining that the board don`t back the manager financially and complaining at losing £1m a year.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 1 Jun 10:42
"Really? It was embarrassing. Obviously folk like you and all the Raith fans must be easy pleased."
Embarrassing? Not a fan of Bryan`s Gunn then? I enjoy his output I have to say, and with 120k followers on Twitter and mentions on Football Clichés, Guardian Football Weekly and the Totally Football Show, it seems I`m not alone. It`s OK to admit you have no sense of humour or are an old man shouting at clouds you know? You don`t have to label things you don`t understand as "embarrassing".
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 1 Jun 10:51
Quote:
Kyle DAFC, Fri 31 May 22:05
If that was said about a women’s team it would be viewed as sexist and disgraceful and rightly so. No excuse just because it’s about men. Absolutely disgraceful and anyone who thinks otherwise is an absolute clown.
Most of us are clowns then.
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Topic Originator: Bouncer
Date: Sat 1 Jun 11:46
Myles Hippolyte signs for AFC Wimbledon. Still only 29, for some reason I was expecting him to be older than that.
Good bit of business by Killie getting Bruce Anderson on a free.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 1 Jun 12:00
Last year, much to my surprise, I saw Hippolyte scoring against USA in a Nation`s League match for Grenada.They lost 7-1.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 1 Jun 12:25
So sexualising men is just ‘banter’, but I wonder what the reaction would be if it was said about a woman. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. Yet it’ll be brushed under the carpet. Admin should be stepping in and barring Buffy from using this site, otherwise it appears they condone this behaviour.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Sat 1 Jun 12:32
Quote:
parsfan97, Sat 1 Jun 12:25
So sexualising men is just ‘banter’, but I wonder what the reaction would be if it was said about a woman. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. Yet it’ll be brushed under the carpet. Admin should be stepping in and barring Buffy from using this site, otherwise it appears they condone this behaviour.
Don`t get your sexy knickers in a twist.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Sat 1 Jun 12:34
parsfan97 wrote:
> So sexualising men is just ‘banter’, but I wonder what the
> reaction would be if it was said about a woman. Absolutely
> disgusting and unacceptable. Yet it’ll be brushed under the
> carpet. Admin should be stepping in and barring Buffy from
> using this site, otherwise it appears they condone this
> behaviour.
>
>
i watched the Scotland women`s team last night, Was only there to see how lovely their boobs bounced when they ran.
that the kind of thing ?
We all know this kind of thing dosnt go both ways. btw not got a problem with what buffy said but making a point.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 1 Jun 12:37
People actually defending this absolutely wild 😂
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Topic Originator: Scottdoherty
Date: Sat 1 Jun 12:40
Difference does that make? 99.99 percent of pars fan aren`t regularly in this website it`s 2024 and this is a forum.
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Topic Originator: usurpar
Date: Sat 1 Jun 12:59
Admin: can we please open a Virtue Signalling thread elsewhere so that all those Disgusted, Offended or Feeling Sick can have their own ‘Banter’ and leave all the ‘Clowns’ to post about Close Season Signings? Asking for a friend….
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 1 Jun 13:02
Quote:
usurpar, Sat 1 Jun 12:59
Admin: can we please open a Virtue Signalling thread elsewhere so that all those Disgusted, Offended or Feeling Sick can have their own ‘Banter’ and leave all the ‘Clowns’ to post about Close Season Signings? Asking for a friend….
Agree 100%
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 1 Jun 13:05
Look back to see who took this thread off topic……
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 1 Jun 13:23
Quote:
parsfan97, Sat 1 Jun 13:05
Look back to see who took this thread off topic……
Me by highlighting someone getting a name wrong?
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Sat 1 Jun 13:56
Anyway..... back on topic Paul Allan linked with Kelty.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 1 Jun 14:28
That would be a great club for Allan, unlikely to get full time so second best is that it’s close to where he lives.
Wonder if we could loan Kelty another couple to
Make some space!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 1 Jun 22:22
Shouldn`t have let Paul Allan go in my opinion
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 1 Jun 22:38
Topic Originator: Gaz3822 like
Date: Sat 1 Jun 22:22
Shouldn`t have let Paul Allan go in my opinion.
Wasn’t there a player we let go and then re-signed a few seasons ago ?…can’t think who it was or if my mind is playing tricks….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Sat 1 Jun 22:54
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822 like
Date: Sat 1 Jun 22:22
Shouldn`t have let Paul Allan go in my opinion.
Wasn’t there a player we let go and then re-signed a few seasons ago ?…can’t think who it was or if my mind is playing tricks….
Didn`t we do that with Geggan under AJ when he first came?
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Sun 2 Jun 00:02
Quote:
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822 like
Date: Sat 1 Jun 22:22
Shouldn`t have let Paul Allan go in my opinion.
Wasn’t there a player we let go and then re-signed a few seasons ago ?…can’t think who it was or if my mind is playing tricks….
Declan McManus?
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 2 Jun 06:10
Quote:
desparado, Sat 1 Jun 22:38
Topic Originator: Gaz3822 like
Date: Sat 1 Jun 22:22
Shouldn`t have let Paul Allan go in my opinion.
Wasn’t there a player we let go and then re-signed a few seasons ago ?…can’t think who it was or if my mind is playing tricks….
Lewis Spence?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 2 Jun 19:31
Because it all politically correct nonsense. We have a part to play, have a joke and banter, but not to the point where it harms. Sadly social media is at fault, people get away with bad stuff that would not be acceptable in newspapers
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Sun 2 Jun 19:40
thebear wrote:
> Because it all politically correct nonsense. We have a part to
> play, have a joke and banter, but not to the point where it
> harms. Sadly social media is at fault, people get away with bad
> stuff that would not be acceptable in newspapers
Lewis Spence…?!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 2 Jun 20:08
He`s maybe thinking of Louie Spence.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sun 2 Jun 23:09
There is a lot of people advocating things Regarding Paul Allan, he was maybe just unlucky his contract was up ,
But It`s like everything else he was with us a long time but spent a few seasons on loan , so maybe a change will actually do him the world of good , maybe not who knows ?
All I hope for this close season is we bring in quality instead of untested youngsters , As we have some youngsters of our own who are just as good
Cmon Ye Pars
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Mon 3 Jun 11:08
i do hope pars start making signings soon dont want to be left behind like last season
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Mon 3 Jun 15:03
Are players that are currently here or that have been released good enough to get us to the Premiership and good enough to keep a spot in the team, if we get there? Answer to that is no for the ones gone and no for a couple still under contract. Harsh is that is, ultimately that`s our end goal, that`s what we expect as fans, and that`s what we`ve been promised.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 3 Jun 15:31
Topic Originator: bigdonnie like
Date: Mon 3 Jun 11:08
i do hope pars start making signings soon dont want to be left behind like last season
So do I, but if we don’t, we will get fed the quality over quantity line again. Probably end up with neither and be trawling the loan market in September. It all comes down to cash so that we can entice our first/second choice targets…..but if we are as skint as some would have us believe then it could be a bit like last year..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 3 Jun 17:22
Easton signed with Raith for another two years.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 3 Jun 17:34
Solid signing for them. Surprised he didn`t aim higher though. Perhaps little interest in the Premiership?
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 3 Jun 17:54
Quote:
Berry, Mon 3 Jun 17:22
Easton signed with Raith for another two years.
Must have cost them a few Bob for that one!
2yr deal, Wow.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 3 Jun 19:37
Surprised he’s still there, though he had ambitions of playing in the top league. Like said above little or no interest has made his decision for him.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 4 Jun 06:06
Also strange in that once he waa linked with a few Premiership clubs his form dipped and he had a lot more "injuries". Think a few Rovers fans were resigned to him leaving but glad it wasn`t Stanton or Brown.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 4 Jun 07:27
Derek Adams returns to Morecambe as manager.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 4 Jun 08:12
Quote:
kelty_par, Tue 4 Jun 06:06
Also strange in that once he waa linked with a few Premiership clubs his form dipped and he had a lot more "injuries". Think a few Rovers fans were resigned to him leaving but glad it wasn`t Stanton or Brown.
Dylan`s a good lad. If he was injured, he was injured. Perhaps those injuries went against him with Premier clubs? Regardless, I`d have loved to see him at EEP. Really direct in his play and knows how to get a ball to a striker.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 4 Jun 10:44
Is someone able to put up the squad list with who is under contract etc? Help to see what we’re looking at for this coming season. Maybe it’s on another thread but I couldn’t see it.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 4 Jun 12:04
Players under contract with expiry year in brackets;
Mehmet (2026)
Comrie (2025)
Breen (2025)
Benedictus (2026)
Fisher (2026)
Young (2026)
Otoo (2026)
Edwards (2025)
Hamilton (2025)
Chalmers (2025)
Todd (2026)
KRH (2026)
Tod (2026)
O`Halloran (2025)
McCann (2026)
Wighton (2025)
Sutherland (2026)
Kane (2026)
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 4 Jun 12:23
Thanks King Lad!
Looking at that we definitely need to strengthen up or it could be another season like last.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
Post Edited (Tue 04 Jun 12:26)
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 4 Jun 12:23
Goalkeeper at minimum need someone else in to compete with Mehmet.
I think defensively we are fairly well set, depending on what system McPake plans to utilise next season and if Edwards does indeed depart. I want to see the team move away from wing backs as I think KRH is more effective as an out and out winger.
Midfield is an area I think needs upgrading. Otoo and Hamilton perform fine breaking up the play in a deeper role and Chalmers can recycle possession well but I think we need someone else with a bit more drive in there who can progress play quicker than he can. Todd for me is more effective further up the park possibly playing off Kane/Wighton next season.
This could be included in the midfield section but I want to see an out and out left winger brought in to cause teams problems there. With KRH on the other side and a Kane through the middle I think the team would score a lot more.
That`s maybe 4-5 more guys brought in by my count? Players and staff have been on holidays and are beginning to return so I suspect we`ll see some activity over the next couple weeks on the transfer side of things.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 4 Jun 12:29
Quote:
king lad, Tue 04 Jun 12:23
Goalkeeper at minimum need someone else in to compete with Mehmet.
I think defensively we are fairly well set, depending on what system McPake plans to utilise next season and if Edwards does indeed depart. I want to see the team move away from wing backs as I think KRH is more effective as an out and out winger.
Midfield is an area I think needs upgrading. Otoo and Hamilton perform fine breaking up the play in a deeper role and Chalmers can recycle possession well but I think we need someone else with a bit more drive in there who can progress play quicker than he can. Todd for me is more effective further up the park possibly playing off Kane/Wighton next season.
This could be included in the midfield section but I want to see an out and out left winger brought in to cause teams problems there. With KRH on the other side and a Kane through the middle I think the team would score a lot more.
That`s maybe 4-5 more guys brought in by my count? Players and staff have been on holidays and are beginning to return so I suspect we`ll see some activity over the next couple weeks on the transfer side of things.
Agree with most of that.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Bucuresti Par
Date: Tue 4 Jun 13:40
A keeper is certainly required. I`d expect/hope Otoo and Hamilton to be largely used in midfield, so at least one more centre back is required, a left back (to replace Edwards when he moves on) and another full back option would be good. I`d also like a more dynamic central midfielder and winger. I can`t see us adding any more forwards with what we already have.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 4 Jun 13:46
We need a keeper and quality all over the park. I suspect a keeper will be the priority and the rest of the gaps will be loan deals.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 4 Jun 13:59
If the rest of the gaps are going to be loan deals then we will not see many new faces before end of September then, maybe two more signings before then. A keeper and a midfielder. A full back will be a priority if Edwards leaves……all quiet on that front just now….
Fingers crossed that the loan deals are good un’s and that we are not plagued by injuries again this coming season.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 4 Jun 15:30
That list is a bit worrying, Kane carrying us and very few in there who will chip in with assists.
Could be a long hard season, let’s hope we’re not relying on young raw loans for the creativity again… need some experience and consistency in such a key position, goals win games after all.
Wonder if we have a few things lined up but need Edwards to move on first, does feel like that’s gone a bit quiet though
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Tue 4 Jun 15:35
Edwards is on holiday
Post Edited (Tue 04 Jun 15:35)
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Tue 4 Jun 15:38
The transfer window opens a week on Friday.Wouldn`t expect to hear much until then.
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Topic Originator: Pars For Europe
Date: Tue 4 Jun 17:30
From that list I’d like to see Hamilton’s deal extended, stands out as a potential issue we could do without later in the year and its deserved after last seasons effort.
The rest apart Edwards who I think we live only in faint hope of resigning, need to prove they deserve a new deal this year.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 4 Jun 18:52
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 4 Jun 15:30
Could be a long hard season
It`s the start of June, gies peace!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 4 Jun 18:59
He`s just being optimistic. A long, hard season is exactly what he wants - keeps him going.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Tue 4 Jun 20:19
I didn’t know Marvin the paranoid android supported the Pars 🤣
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Tue 4 Jun 20:53
Falkirk sign Ethan Ross.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 4 Jun 21:51
Stuart Armstrong released by Southampton
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 4 Jun 21:56
Could be another Scot in Italy, think Fiorentina were keen to get him.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 4 Jun 22:07
Topic Originator: DBA like
Date: Tue 4 Jun 18:52
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 4 Jun 15:30
Could be a long hard season
It`s the start of June, gies peace!
Thing is……he’s right……it probably will be again..Falkirk not hanging about….meanwhile at EEP…….tumbleweed……
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 4 Jun 22:12
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu like
Date: Tue 4 Jun 21:51
Stuart Armstrong released by Southampton
Not sure that’s entirely accurate. His contract has expired and he has other offers…..Fulham and Fiorentina apparently, maybe better ones that Saints put on the table, if indeed they did of course…so a mutual parting of ways it seems.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 4 Jun 22:22
Ethan Ross was on loan at Falkirk last season from Raith. Now he`s signed for a year. Last season we signed two former loanees on 3-year deals and some of our fans said they weren`t `new` signings!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 4 Jun 23:13
We`ve also signed another ex-loanee around a week ago. And he seems a reasonable operator in the Championship.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 5 Jun 11:28
"Could be another Scot in Italy, think Fiorentina were keen to get him."
could be on his way back to Celtic. Was taking selfies with a nipper at game on monday, top bloke compared to Mctominay etc
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 5 Jun 14:05
Paul Hanlon on verge of signings for Rovers reporting the Sun
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Wed 5 Jun 16:51
Oft 3 year deal for a 34 year old. Rovers are building another experienced team and will rightly be favourites to win the league.
Ayr also getting business done as well with some solid signings.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Wed 5 Jun 17:18
Waiting for the Edwards money methinks, unless the Germans nab it for the Academy
G.B
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 5 Jun 17:22
Scott Mckenna is now a free agent after his contract expired at Nottingham Forest
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Wed 5 Jun 18:07
Said it earlier say it again, if that’s what Raith want to do then they are in trouble. Such a slow old defence, they’re making the wrong moves I think!
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 5 Jun 18:10
I know it’s still early in the summer but we seem to be slow off the mark again. Everyone else is strengthening all over the place and we’ve not heard a peep since Kane signed.
Hopefully it starts to change over the next week or so, hopefully once the Edwards deal is done.
No word regarding new kits or anything, seem to be the quietest team
On social media.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 5 Jun 18:25
The average age of Rovers` last three new signings is 34.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 5 Jun 18:56
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy! like
Date: Wed 5 Jun 18:10
I know it’s still early in the summer but we seem to be slow off the mark again. Everyone else is strengthening all over the place and we’ve not heard a peep since Kane signed.
Hopefully it starts to change over the next week or so, hopefully once the Edwards deal is done.
No word regarding new kits or anything, seem to be the quietest team
On social media.
Yip, the Pars certainly know how to build momentum and expectation/excitement heading into a new season…..Not….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 5 Jun 19:24
if the new strip is not available to buy for fathers Day, then that seems like a major opportunity missed. Surely we are not that incompetent?
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Wed 5 Jun 19:24
The Manager said “It’s going to be a busy summer” lol. As posted earlier we seem to be slow out of the blocks again? Maybe the sale of Edwards will kick start a pre-season signing frenzy!!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 5 Jun 19:38
As others have said, it`s barely June. The only signing I`ve seen where I thought I`d have liked us to be in there was Easton but I don`t think we`d get a look in for him. That said I`m a bit surprised he re-signed for the Rovers.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Wed 5 Jun 20:21
I could be wrong, but I don`t forsee an influx of signings.
We obviously need a keeper, but given that Mehmet is likely to be one of the high earners how much of your budget do you allocate to that position?
We will need to try and replace Edwards, assuming he goes, and we could be doing with another winger imo.
It depends if we intend on loaning some of the young boys out but at the moment we have a squad of 18(as per the list above), I`m not sure if any of last seasons reserves are likely to be promoted on top of that?
By the time you add a keeper and a few inevitable loan signings come August time then the squad size will start to mount up.As it stands, currently, we already have a bigger squad than the likes of the Rovers.I`m happy to wait if the standard of signings are good, quality is more important than quantity.Kane will be a decent signing imo and a couple more of the same ilk would do nicely.We`ve seen in the past that a high turnover of players isn`t conducive to a team hitting the ground running.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 5 Jun 21:16
Quote:
weemike, Wed 5 Jun 19:24
if the new strip is not available to buy for fathers Day, then that seems like a major opportunity missed. Surely we are not that incompetent?
Seems like an own goal, right enough ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 5 Jun 22:07
Surely men that are old enough to be fathers, aren`t cutting about wearing football shirts anyway? If they are, they are needing to grow up, leave that sort of thing for the kids
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 6 Jun 04:27
Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 5 Jun 22:07
Surely men that are old enough to be fathers, aren`t cutting about wearing football shirts anyway? If they are, they are needing to grow up, leave that sort of thing for the kids
Get in the bin ya miserable sod 😂😂
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 6 Jun 05:47
Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 5 Jun 22:07
Surely men that are old enough to be fathers, aren`t cutting about wearing football shirts anyway? If they are, they are needing to grow up, leave that sort of thing for the kids
For some reason grown men like to wear football tops on their summer holidays to Magaluf
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Thu 6 Jun 08:58
For some reason grown adults like to wear a pars top to EEP 🤯 who would have thought it
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Thu 6 Jun 09:01
EastEndTales wrote:
> People can wear whatever they want, who cares? I wear football
> tops at the gym.
>
>
please tell me your not one of those wankers :)
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Thu 6 Jun 09:41
Quote:
Football_Par, Thu 6 Jun 09:01
EastEndTales wrote:
> People can wear whatever they want, who cares? I wear football
> tops at the gym.
>
please tell me your not one of those wankers :)
Only at the gym! They`re too sweaty material to wear anywhere else. Total wanker though, agreed.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Thu 6 Jun 10:31
Courier reporting Partick Thistle are set to sign Logan Chalmers and are pushing for Shaun Byrne
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Thu 6 Jun 11:11
Fitzpatrick and Chalmers plying Graham with chances could be great for Thistle.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Thu 6 Jun 11:22
Logan Chalmers and Shaun Byrne are quality signings for Partick, if they manage to get them both.
Both players who I would have liked at East End.
I really hope we have some planning place, everyone else is strengthening and leaving us behind. Don’t want to be scraping the bottom of the bargain bucket again come end of August.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Thu 6 Jun 11:25
What is the target for us next season? Is it survival until the academy is up and running. Are our investors putting money into that with the hope of long term profit rather than the current team.
Other clubs will see next season as an opportunity with a small amount of investment to win the league with no obvious bigger well supported financiallly teams in there
Post Edited (Thu 06 Jun 11:28)
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 6 Jun 11:45
The target will be progression on last season 4/5th place. Anything less will be a failure on Mcpakes part.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Thu 6 Jun 11:47
weemike wrote:
> The target will be progression on last season 4/5th place.
> Anything less will be a failure on Mcpakes part.
We were 6th last season.
Chalmer is over rated, was well down the pecking order at United behind Mochrie and Meekison and Glass
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 6 Jun 11:51
We were 6th last season.
Chalmer is over rated, was well down the pecking order at United behind Mochrie and Meekison and Glass
Hence why mcpakes remit will be 5th place or higher.
Fwiw I think a deal has been agreed for MFW and it`ll be announced 1st July.
Pure speculation on my part but it`s why tough budget decisions were made. Added to that he loved his football here and he performed well. We must`ve atleast been in talks with the other parties about him.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 6 Jun 11:59
I don`t have any hopes pinned on MFW coming back, he was being watched every week by Scottish Premiership sides and clubs down south.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 6 Jun 12:23
Quote:
Football_Par, Thu 6 Jun 11:47
weemike wrote:
> The target will be progression on last season 4/5th place.
> Anything less will be a failure on Mcpakes part.
We were 6th last season.
Chalmer is over rated, was well down the pecking order at United behind Mochrie and Meekison and Glass
Logan Chalmers would walk into our midfield easily.....
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 6 Jun 12:42
Quote:
Athletico, Thu 6 Jun 11:59
I don`t have any hopes pinned on MFW coming back, he was being watched every week by Scottish Premiership sides and clubs down south.
Right now I`m taking no news as good news, and he`s bound to have seen Otoo playing every week thinking I could have this. Maybe better the devil you know.
I atleast hope the board had entertained the idea and put feelers out at a minimum.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 6 Jun 12:49
Oh, there will definitely be interest. It was alluded to by McPake that when he arrived on loan, he was someone we were targetting as a permanent signing this summer - but injuries had forced the early loan move.
Post Edited (Thu 06 Jun 12:54)
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Thu 6 Jun 14:12
Quote:
weemike, Thu 6 Jun 11:45
The target will be progression on last season 4/5th place. Anything less will be a failure on Mcpakes part.
If the clubs ambition is only finishing 4/5 th place then that would worry me, this is the first time in years the championship does not have someone with deep pockets or a club with a bigger status than ourselves ie Utd, Hibs etc.
If now is not the time to be thinking about challenging for the title then that would be very disappointing. Also what clubs would you consider to be the ones to finish above us? I`m guessing thistle and the rovers but who else?
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Thu 6 Jun 14:22
Livingston will be thinking they are in the mix.
Neither are that attractive a player for me. Both have habits of going missing for large periods of games. They’re championship players. I’d rather we continued looking at those we can develop at a higher level likes of KRH, Otoo, Todd, Fisher and MFW. That’s how we’ll progress more sustainably.
As for the football top argument I don’t understand the hate. Providing the clothing fits then let folk buy and wear what they want ffs 😂
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Thu 6 Jun 14:23
And Admin, pls consider stopping this thread and open another. Along with that horrendous huge advert and the refreshing of the thread due to its size, it’s becoming difficult to reply without it crashing. Thank you 🤩
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 6 Jun 14:50
Quote:
LEGEND85, Thu 6 Jun 14:12
Quote:
weemike, Thu 6 Jun 11:45
The target will be progression on last season 4/5th place. Anything less will be a failure on Mcpakes part.
If the clubs ambition is only finishing 4/5 th place then that would worry me, this is the first time in years the championship does not have someone with deep pockets or a club with a bigger status than ourselves ie Utd, Hibs etc.
If now is not the time to be thinking about challenging for the title then that would be very disappointing. Also what clubs would you consider to be the ones to finish above us? I`m guessing thistle and the rovers but who else?
The clubs ambition is to be in the Premier league and stay there. But year on year progression is the best way to achieve that and stay up.
The clubs minimum target for next season will be an improvement on this year anything less than that will be really worrying not just for the fans but for the board as well. If we finished 7th next season it may well be Mcpakes jotters.
Raith Partick airdrie Livingston are all currently better teams than us, don`t forget livi will have parachute payments.
If I was going into next season thinking top two minimum I`d be prepared to be disappointed if I were you.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Thu 6 Jun 15:04
Let’s face it we won’t be challenging for the league with the squad as it currently stands. Unless we bring 3-4 experienced players in position of need I am not sure how next season won’t repeat itself all over again. We simply don’t score enough goals.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 6 Jun 15:13
Do you seriously think the manager is not planning to strengthen the squad?
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Thu 6 Jun 15:52
"Logan Chalmers would walk into our midfield easily....."
Doubt it, he`s not even a midfielder
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Thu 6 Jun 16:15
Partick sign Kyle Turner on a 2 year deal
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 6 Jun 16:41
Quote:
RMGpar, Thu 6 Jun 16:15
Partick sign Kyle Turner on a 2 year deal
Returned to where he was?
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Topic Originator: Gem 1977
Date: Thu 6 Jun 16:56
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 6 Jun 16:41
Quote:
RMGpar, Thu 6 Jun 16:15
Partick sign Kyle Turner on a 2 year deal
Returned to where he was?
He was at Ross County. That`s why he couldn`t play in the playoff final.
Here's to the first of the day, fellas! To old D.H. Lawrence.
Neh! Neh! Neh! Fuh! Fuh! Fuh! Indians
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 6 Jun 18:03
Quote:
Gem 1977, Thu 6 Jun 16:56
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 6 Jun 16:41
Quote:
RMGpar, Thu 6 Jun 16:15
Partick sign Kyle Turner on a 2 year deal
Returned to where he was?
He was at Ross County. That`s why he couldn`t play in the playoff final.
Aye, but Partick before Ross County.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Thu 6 Jun 19:48
Quote:
weemike, Thu 6 Jun 14:50
Quote:
LEGEND85, Thu 6 Jun 14:12
Quote:
weemike, Thu 6 Jun 11:45
The target will be progression on last season 4/5th place. Anything less will be a failure on Mcpakes part.
If the clubs ambition is only finishing 4/5 th place then that would worry me, this is the first time in years the championship does not have someone with deep pockets or a club with a bigger status than ourselves ie Utd, Hibs etc.
If now is not the time to be thinking about challenging for the title then that would be very disappointing. Also what clubs would you consider to be the ones to finish above us? I`m guessing thistle and the rovers but who else?
The clubs ambition is to be in the Premier league and stay there. But year on year progression is the best way to achieve that and stay up.
The clubs minimum target for next season will be an improvement on this year anything less than that will be really worrying not just for the fans but for the board as well. If we finished 7th next season it may well be Mcpakes jotters.
Raith Partick airdrie Livingston are all currently better teams than us, don`t forget livi will have parachute payments.
If I was going into next season thinking top two minimum I`d be prepared to be disappointed if I were you.
Airdrie don’t even have enough signed players to put out an XI but are better than us apparently.
Let’s wait until the end of August to see who we sign before jumping the gun.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Thu 6 Jun 22:34
Walcotts story on his instagram shows him doing some training, he has a Dunfermline training top on 👀
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Fri 7 Jun 08:39
For Every Signing, McPake has a mountain of red tape to go thru with owners before they authorise it. This is well known.
We are never going to be quick off the mark with signings. Just the way it is unfortunately.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Fri 7 Jun 09:08
I am sure a lot of agents are involved. They may be waiting for the outcome of Josh Edwards to finalise the squad needs.
As others have said, I think we will bring in a couple of permanent signings with some loan players to complete the squad..
I don`t think there will be any earth shattering news. We have a good core group of players so we will only be adding where we can strengthen in my view.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 7 Jun 09:42
Quote:
RMGpar, Thu 6 Jun 22:34
Walcotts story on his instagram shows him doing some training, he has a Dunfermline training top on 👀
I seen him at wee asda
Post Edited (Fri 07 Jun 09:43)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 7 Jun 09:46
"Walcotts story on his instagram shows him doing some training, he has a Dunfermline training top on 👀"
Benjamin and Holmes had Dunfermline shorts on in their recent clips....
"For Every Signing, McPake has a mountain of red tape to go thru with owners before they authorise it. This is well known.
We are never going to be quick off the mark with signings. Just the way it is unfortunately."
going by the amount of people that dont seem to know, maybe its worth explaining?
as for the last part, this has been the case before the change of owners and apparent "red tape" so its not new. only time in recent years there has been more than 1 signing at this point was when McNamara was involved and when Johnston was given a load of extra cash in his final summer window.
Post Edited (Fri 07 Jun 10:20)
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Fri 7 Jun 12:14
Cardiff have just extended MFW contract, so unless he`s coming back on loan, you can say goodbye to that dream.
Benjamin has been released.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 7 Jun 12:55
Quote:
Athletico, Fri 7 Jun 12:14
Cardiff have just extended MFW contract, so unless he`s coming back on loan, you can say goodbye to that dream.
Benjamin has been released.
Here`s hoping a full season loan deal, it`d be a great deal for both clubs and the player.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Fri 7 Jun 12:58
He is a good player and likeable lad. Keep our fingers crossed.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Fri 7 Jun 17:28
Quote:
parsmad68, Fri 7 Jun 12:58
He is a good player and likeable lad. Keep our fingers crossed.
Totally agree but if I`m their loans manager I`d want him at a higher level than us.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Fri 7 Jun 17:34
Quote:
Football_Par, Fri 7 Jun 08:39
For Every Signing, McPake has a mountain of red tape to go thru with owners before they authorise it. This is well known.
So the people who`s money`s being spent need to approve it? Pretty standard practice in any business in my experience. I guess your description sounds much more dramatic though....
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Fri 7 Jun 18:01
My gut is telling me not to expect many, if any, more permanent signings other than Kane and perhaps a replacement for Edwards.
Going by how the board have conducted themselves with the club to date, I reckon they’ll think we have a strong nucleus of a squad that can compete and will heavily rely on the loan market again.
Hopefully I’m wrong.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Fri 7 Jun 18:29
Quote:
Berry, Fri 7 Jun 18:01
My gut is telling me not to expect many, if any, more permanent signings other than Kane and perhaps a replacement for Edwards.
Going by how the board have conducted themselves with the club to date, I reckon they’ll think we have a strong nucleus of a squad that can compete and will heavily rely on the loan market again.
Hopefully I’m wrong.
Agree Berry
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Fri 7 Jun 18:33
So when JM said it was going to be a busy summer ( close season ) he meant……autumn…..
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 7 Jun 18:57
a big summer was said which if you tie in with some of Mackay`s comments is probably more about getting the best XI fit and ready, whatever that XI apparently is.
the permanent or loan debate i dont really care which it is, im more interested in their ability, are they better than what we have etc etc.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Sat 8 Jun 19:23
Airdrie sign Aiden Wilson from Glentoran.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 9 Jun 16:37
Cammy Ballantyne rejects new contact offer at Airdrie and will move on.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 9 Jun 16:42
Gabby McGill has also been released by Airdrie. Potential squad player??
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sun 9 Jun 21:08
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sun 9 Jun 16:42
Gabby McGill has also been released by Airdrie. Potential squad player??
Hes better than all of our strikers. Scored goals last season even though few injuries
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sun 9 Jun 21:25
Better than Chris Kane? I’ll have whatever you’re on
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Mon 10 Jun 09:03
He’s not better than any of our strikers - 5 goals in 31 league games last season. We don’t need another striker who runs about, tries hard but struggles to score.
Andy
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 10 Jun 09:09
Does anyone think that Taylor Sutherland would benefit from going out on loan again, in which case we may need another striker or is TS ready for first team ?
I can see him spending a lot of time on the bench as he won’t start ahead of Kane/Whighton….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Mon 10 Jun 13:09
I would put McCann out on loan and have Taylor a step closer to the first team. McCann has failed to live up to the levels expected imo
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Topic Originator: Hay Fever
Date: Mon 10 Jun 18:21
Wallace Duffy leaving ICT. Local Boy and played at a good standard all his career. Would be a decent Squad player.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Mon 10 Jun 18:22
Josh Rae, the Airdrie keeper, has signed for St Johnstone.
Jack McMillan, the Partick right-back has left the club. I think he would be a good signing.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Mon 10 Jun 18:29
Quote:
StevenPar77, Mon 10 Jun 18:22
Josh Rae, the Airdrie keeper, has signed for St Johnstone.
Jack McMillan, the Partick right-back has left the club. I think he would be a good signing.
McMillan is signing for Exeter City
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 10 Jun 18:50
There seems to be a bit of a clear-out at Airdrie - Gallagher, Forsyth, Ballantyne, McGill and now Rae.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 10 Jun 19:43
In the spirit of typical transfer rumours, couple of people on X have noticed Lewis Strapps mam is following the Pars.
Think he’s been trialling in Finland recently but wouldn’t surprise me if we were sniffing about.
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Topic Originator: Axel
Date: Mon 10 Jun 20:09
Quote:
weemike, Thu 6 Jun 14:50
Quote:
LEGEND85, Thu 6 Jun 14:12
Quote:
weemike, Thu 6 Jun 11:45
The target will be progression on last season 4/5th place. Anything less will be a failure on Mcpakes part.
If the clubs ambition is only finishing 4/5 th place then that would worry me, this is the first time in years the championship does not have someone with deep pockets or a club with a bigger status than ourselves ie Utd, Hibs etc.
If now is not the time to be thinking about challenging for the title then that would be very disappointing. Also what clubs would you consider to be the ones to finish above us? I`m guessing thistle and the rovers but who else?
The clubs ambition is to be in the Premier league and stay there. But year on year progression is the best way to achieve that and stay up.
The clubs minimum target for next season will be an improvement on this year anything less than that will be really worrying not just for the fans but for the board as well. If we finished 7th next season it may well be Mcpakes jotters.
Raith Partick airdrie Livingston are all currently better teams than us, don`t forget livi will have parachute payments.
If I was going into next season thinking top two minimum I`d be prepared to be disappointed if I were you.
If we aren`t going for promotion with our support. Set up .n stadium after the shame of the last numerous seasons .wtf .progress. top four .play offs blah blah . .I despair. I`ve had enough of this bs
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 10 Jun 20:29
Quote:
Berry, Mon 10 Jun 19:43
In the spirit of typical transfer rumours, couple of people on X have noticed Lewis Strapps mam is following the Pars.
Think he’s been trialling in Finland recently but wouldn’t surprise me if we were sniffing about.
She`s not the only maw who`s started following the Pars...
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 10 Jun 20:57
If you’re loaning out a 23 year old down a few levels for some game time it’s purely to get his wage off the bill until you can release him.
Hopefully a decent experienced full back to replace Edwards, a decent experienced attacking midfielder and some loans who have already had a season playing mens football and I think that’s prob the best we can expect.
If the manager can actually set us up to score goals and we utilise the likes of KRH then maybe we can get in the top 4 with that.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 10 Jun 21:38
Quote:
Berry, Mon 10 Jun 19:43
In the spirit of typical transfer rumours, couple of people on X have noticed Lewis Strapps mam is following the Pars.
Think he’s been trialling in Finland recently but wouldn’t surprise me if we were sniffing about.
This is exactly the kind of transfer window detective work I love to hear.
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Topic Originator: The Toun Clock
Date: Mon 10 Jun 21:48
Quote:
Berry, Mon 10 Jun 19:43
In the spirit of typical transfer rumours, couple of people on X have noticed Lewis Strapps mam is following the Pars.
Think he’s been trialling in Finland recently but wouldn’t surprise me if we were sniffing about.
Worth mentioning he also followed us on twitter, not just his Maw
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 10 Jun 23:10
Quote:
The Toun Clock, Mon 10 Jun 21:48
Quote:
Berry, Mon 10 Jun 19:43
In the spirit of typical transfer rumours, couple of people on X have noticed Lewis Strapps mam is following the Pars.
Think he’s been trialling in Finland recently but wouldn’t surprise me if we were sniffing about.
Worth mentioning he also followed us on twitter, not just his Maw
What`s his Maw like? Worth following back? How do we know it`s his Maw anyway? Is her username Maw Strapp?
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Tue 11 Jun 12:19
Saw this on Twitter this morning, the transfer ambitions of an Exeter City fan. All funded by …..check who he’d sell. Not one Exeter City fan challenging the valuation.🤷♂️
Brad Theobald @bradtheobald93
Follow
Realistic Exeter City transfer window: #ecfc
- Barry Bannan: FREE #swtc
- Scott Twine £1m #Burnley
- Herbie Kane: FREE #BarnsleyFC
- Conor Chaplin: £1m #ITFC
- Luke Southwood: FREE #ctfc
- Sam Nombe: FREE #rufc
SELL: Reece Cole £5m
£3m profit
21:16 • 09/06/2024 From Earth • 176K Views
1 Repost 9 Quotes 328 Likes 11 Bookmarks
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 11 Jun 13:13
Given that Conor Chaplin is 27, played 44 games for Ipswich Town in the Championship last season and has 2 years left on his contract, I am not sure that it is realistic that he will sign for Exeter for £1m.
Barry Bannan has also signed a new deal as Sheffield Wednesday.
So, I wouldn`t take the lack of anyone challenging him as validation. Fair play to Reece Cole though - played plenty of games in League One last year and got a few goals, having dropped to the 7th tier of English football after leaving us.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Tue 11 Jun 14:48
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Tue 11 Jun 13:13
(Given that Conor Chaplin is 27, played 44 games for Ipswich Town in the Championship last season and has 2 years left on his contract, I am not sure that it is realistic that he will sign for Exeter for £1m.)
To be fair there were a number of Ipswich fans who responded telling him to dream on.
I just thought the valuation of Cole was interesting (or indeed ridiculous)when you consider what we are allegedly selling Edwards for.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 11 Jun 15:02
Totally different market and contract situation.
Exeter have made good money on Ollie Watkins and Ethan Ampadu but they were young players who have gone on to be international footballers - not 26 year olds who have spent their entire career in the lower leagues.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Tue 11 Jun 15:35
Hear we are in for a couple of attack minded players who have played in the championship last season. Hopefully find out by the weekend
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 11 Jun 15:43
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Tue 11 Jun 13:13
Given that Conor Chaplin is 27, played 44 games for Ipswich Town in the Championship last season and has 2 years left on his contract, I am not sure that it is realistic that he will sign for Exeter for £1m.
Barry Bannan has also signed a new deal as Sheffield Wednesday.
So, I wouldn`t take the lack of anyone challenging him as validation. Fair play to Reece Cole though - played plenty of games in League One last year and got a few goals, having dropped to the 7th tier of English football after leaving us.
Bannan also club captain and will be be on £20-25k a week you would imagine so zero chance that is happening.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 11 Jun 16:36
Quote:
Jeffery, Fri 31 May 15:30
The best anyone can do is have an educated guess at budget/spend. There could be a difference there between the teams but really who knows.
[B]What I would say about Rovers is that the accessibility of funds (either in the bank of fed in ad-hoc by their wealthy fan investors) appears different between the teams. When Raith need someone they seem to move far more quickly than we do.
Decent example of the quick Rovers business in this story that (unfortunately) came up in my feed today:-
https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/football/raith-rovers-ian-murrays-chance-internet-browse-on-bus-home-from-dingwall-led-to-unexpected-new-signing-4659939
So spotted by chance and signed a few days later. We don`t move that quickly.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 11 Jun 17:24
Comrie gets injured for the remainder of the season, MWH signs within 24 hours...
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 11 Jun 20:01
😂 aye, but that doesn`t fit the narrative DA-Go!!!
We also announced Kane on a permanent before St Johnstone had even said he`d left.
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Wed 12 Jun 16:53
Jamie Hamilton leaving Hamilton was highly rated getting a trial with Crystal Palace before a year and half injury. Turned down a new contract any takers?
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Wed 12 Jun 17:05
Shaun Byrne signs 2 year deal with Raith
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 12 Jun 17:09
Byrne to The Wee Team on a 2 year deal.
They are going to be a lot stronger than last season at this rate and are going to be favourites to win the league.
So depressing watching them building a very good squad and us……..well, not a lot.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 12 Jun 17:22
We’ll be relying on the loan market. A signing for Edwards replacement is all I’m expecting to be honest.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Wed 12 Jun 17:34
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Wed 12 Jun 17:09
Byrne to The Wee Team on a 2 year deal.
They are going to be a lot stronger than last season at this rate and are going to be favourites to win the league.
So depressing watching them building a very good squad and us……..well, not a lot.
Are they going to be much stronger though?
They`ve added a couple of good players, but also lost the likes of Turner.
Them and Partick will be favourites, but at the same time they won`t have the same percentage of late goals next year.
Still think we`ll start the season with at least a comparable squad to them and Partick.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Wed 12 Jun 17:38
DBA wrote:
> Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Wed 12 Jun 17:09
>
> Byrne to The Wee Team on a 2 year deal.
>
> They are going to be a lot stronger than last season at this
> rate and are going to be favourites to win the league.
>
> So depressing watching them building a very good squad and
> us……..well, not a lot.
>
> Are they going to be much stronger though?
>
> They`ve added a couple of good players, but also lost the likes
> of Turner.
>
> Them and Partick will be favourites, but at the same time they
> won`t have the same percentage of late goals next year.
>
> Still think we`ll start the season with at least a comparable
> squad to them and Partick.
I agree that I don’t think they’re going to be as good as folk on here are making out. The worry for me is more about where we’re going to create goals. We have the striker now I think, but need the creativity.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Wed 12 Jun 17:49
They are miles ahead. As it stands, we either need some excellent signings. Or for the likes of Todd, KRH Otoo, Kane all to play their best games every week.
If we start well, we might do well as form and confidence take hold.
Hopefully, we can be injury free and the boys get to express themselves in the vision the manager wants.
It`s a big season for a few at East end including the management team.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 12 Jun 18:05
Rovers are going to have one of the oldest squads. All their signings have been over 30 have they not?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 12 Jun 18:05
Raith building a stronger team by *checks notes* signing someone who played for them last season.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Wed 12 Jun 18:13
Correct wee eck. I wonder how they’ll cope against a side with a bit of pace.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Wed 12 Jun 18:14
Quote:
jake89, Wed 12 Jun 18:05
Raith building a stronger team by *checks notes* signing someone who played for them last season.
... and played for Dundee!
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Wed 12 Jun 18:30
I don`t recall the last time the championship was dominated by teams with lots of pace. I personally don`t care what age our signings are - as long as they improve our team and are not too injury prone.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Wed 12 Jun 18:48
Rovers looking good with that squad and apparently more to come. Can’t see them out of the Top 3 in the league.
No point moaning about us, imagine it’s the usual last minute loans at the end of the window, we just don’t have cash to match the Rovers.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Wed 12 Jun 19:12
I think the trade-off in terms of signings is the ability to meet wage expectations, the cost to the club, and the potential income for the club at the end of the season with respect to a top four finish. It obviously cost Dundee Utd a lot of money to gain promotion. Anything other than winning the division is a financial gamble if you don`t go up. I agree with Berkey. My guess in terms of signings is maybe 1 or 2 with the rest made up of loan players. I would think that we are betting longer term here by developing players who can ultimately come into the 1st team so that with the right development, we can build a team around that. The key to that will be to bring someone who can work with the younger players and really bring them on.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Wed 12 Jun 19:17
Quote:
jake89, Wed 12 Jun 18:05
Raith building a stronger team by *checks notes* signing someone who played for them last season.
And who didn’t even get a start in there biggest games of the season.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 12 Jun 19:22
It isn`t necessarily a lack of pace that is the main drawback of an ageing squad. Older players tend to pick up more injuries and take longer to recover from them.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 12 Jun 20:25
Barry Maguire signs for Hamilton. Former Motherwell player.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 12 Jun 20:34
Raith building their squad up early for next season and more teams in the division doing it aswell… looks like we will be doing the end of season/desperate signings/loan players again…our strips are stuck in holding so another shitfest from the club…Could the club not put out the new shirt for next season and say available at some point??
Did Man City get rid of Cook??
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Wed 12 Jun 20:51
Quote:
Alter Ego, Wed 12 Jun 20:34
Raith building their squad up early for next season and more teams in the division doing it aswell… looks like we will be doing the end of season/desperate signings/loan players again…our strips are stuck in holding so another shitfest from the club…Could the club not put out the new shirt for next season and say available at some point??
Did Man City get rid of Cook??
"Desparate signings"
It`s 12th June FFS!
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 12 Jun 20:58
That`s some stretch blaming customs and Brexit on the club not having kits! 😂
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Wed 12 Jun 21:00
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 10 Jun 23:10
Quote:
The Toun Clock, Mon 10 Jun 21:48
Quote:
Berry, Mon 10 Jun 19:43
In the spirit of typical transfer rumours, couple of people on X have noticed Lewis Strapps mam is following the Pars.
Think he’s been trialling in Finland recently but wouldn’t surprise me if we were sniffing about.
Worth mentioning he also followed us on twitter, not just his Maw
What`s his Maw like? Worth following back? How do we know it`s his Maw anyway? Is her username Maw Strapp?
Hi dad, Jock, is also supposed to be following the Para 🤔
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 12 Jun 21:08
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Wed 12 Jun 20:25
Barry Maguire signs for Hamilton. Former Motherwell player.
Bit of a drop for him, career On The Eve Of Destruction?
I`m not really bothered by the Raith signings. Good experienced players but that`s now an aging squad, no resale value and they must be paying fairly big wages.
I`m a lot happier with the model we are following, although a few experienced players would be good.
Have we got a Head of Academy in to replace Greg Shields yet? That`s the most important position at the club in my opinion. They should be begging Stevie Crawford to come on board with that
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 12 Jun 21:12
Hasn`t Stevie started his own Academy at DHS? It`s not an elite academy but just to get boys and girls involved in playing the game I think.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 12 Jun 21:18
I believe Crawford runs an academy out of The Astro at Dunfermline High School.
Not academy level as stated but kids of any level to gain confidence.
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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle
Date: Wed 12 Jun 22:11
John McGlaughlan (ex Celtic and Hearts youth coach) is now in charge of the academy. Although I haven`t seen any official announcement.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 12 Jun 22:23
That`s an impressive capture if true Ladswell!
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 12 Jun 22:55
Well, John McLaughlan would be a proper coup. That`ll be our key signing this summer if true
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 12 Jun 23:42
You`ve got to ask why no announcement has been made about this.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Thu 13 Jun 09:02
Dylan Corr likely to leave Rovers, he’s turned down offer of a contract.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 13 Jun 10:08
Ayr and Livi are both interested in signing Lee Ashcroft according to the Courier.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 13 Jun 11:32
in the Press, Mackay talking about the keeper situation, "open mind" on whether it be a permanent or a loan.
"It won`t be somebody we`ll look to bring in and say `you`re coming in to be a number two. We want two number ones....." .... what you would expect to be said really.
McPake in the Courier saying hopeful Otoo could be fit for the first day of preseason next Friday, talking up the importance of preseason.
article mentions the released players but no comments from McPake on signings, targets etc.
at the moment it seems the Courier and the Press are the only place to read any kind of comment from management.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Thu 13 Jun 11:47
Transfer window officially opens tomorrow. I wonder if the signing gif will appear
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 13 Jun 12:47
Could possibly be because previous targets have went to raith etc we are choosing to be coy about our targets.
That wouldn`t stop agent leaking to the press etc
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Thu 13 Jun 15:31
Hamilton have announced Steven Bradley from Livingston on X.
The video shows some cracking finishes and he looks the have a bit about him. Looks a very composed finisher.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 13 Jun 16:30
54 appearances in Scottish League football (27 starts, 27 sub appearances), 3 goals.
Fair to say, they must have all of his composed finishes on there.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Thu 13 Jun 17:06
DA-go Par Adonis wrote:
> 54 appearances in Scottish League football (27 starts, 27 sub
> appearances), 3 goals.
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> Fair to say, they must have all of his composed finishes on
> there.
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3 goals. left back is he ?
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 13 Jun 17:32
To be fair, I think he`s a winger rather than an out and out striker.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Thu 13 Jun 17:46
Wullie Gibsons son Lewis signs for Raith Rovers.
Wee team knocking it out the park just now have you seen the
Byrne signing video its brilliant.
And John Potter is relentless according to their supporters in chasing down signings.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 13 Jun 17:58
Quote:
Ianoappar, Thu 13 Jun 17:46
Wullie Gibsons son Lewis signs for Raith Rovers.
Wee team knocking it out the park just now have you seen the
Byrne signing video its brilliant.
And John Potter is relentless according to their supporters in chasing down signings.
Wonder when the money runs out or the laundrette stops working?🤔
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 13 Jun 18:09
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 13 Jun 17:58
Quote:
Ianoappar, Thu 13 Jun 17:46
Wullie Gibsons son Lewis signs for Raith Rovers.
Wee team knocking it out the park just now have you seen the
Byrne signing video its brilliant.
And John Potter is relentless according to their supporters in chasing down signings.
Wonder when the money runs out or the laundrette stops working?🤔
Agreed, the signings they are making must be costing plenty in wages, the crowds are far lower than ours. That can`t be viable. It`ll come to a sad end
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Thu 13 Jun 18:18
It`s interesting, lack of publicity and movement on players. It almost makes me think there is a hidden reason, are we not popular, are we skint or even being very frugal, and will buy well at the end. After promotion always thought last season was consolidate and this year is the big push, but don`t see signs of us going in that direction. Am I missing something?
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 13 Jun 18:20
Agreed, the signings they are making must be costing plenty in wages, the crowds are far lower than ours. That can`t be viable. It`ll come to a sad end
They either doubled or tripled the prize money we earned for at least the last two seasons in a row.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 13 Jun 18:23
Quote:
thebear, Thu 13 Jun 18:18
It`s interesting, lack of publicity and movement on players. It almost makes me think there is a hidden reason, are we not popular, are we skint or even being very frugal, and will buy well at the end. After promotion always thought last season was consolidate and this year is the big push, but don`t see signs of us going in that direction. Am I missing something?
We are running at a loss, it`s been well documented.
No one has officially said this season is a big push.
I believe the remit will be to improve on the season before.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Thu 13 Jun 18:39
Quote:
weemike, Thu 13 Jun 18:23
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thebear, Thu 13 Jun 18:18
It`s interesting, lack of publicity and movement on players. It almost makes me think there is a hidden reason, are we not popular, are we skint or even being very frugal, and will buy well at the end. After promotion always thought last season was consolidate and this year is the big push, but don`t see signs of us going in that direction. Am I missing something?
We are running at a loss, it`s been well documented.
No one has officially said this season is a big push.
I believe the remit will be to improve on the season before.
Does it feel like we are ready to improve on last season?
I think your opinion on this steady progress is not shared by other pars fans maybe some but not many.
We should be aiming for 1st place and if we can`t manage that 2nd or 3rd.
Who wants to pay what they are asking for a season ticket to watch the same dross as last season.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 13 Jun 18:46
I`m only saying what I think the boards/mcpakes objectives will be for the next season.
I personally think going for broke is a sure fire way to end up in financial trouble for a single season in the prem.
The main objective is to not only go up but say up. The best way to do that is to organically improve the squad in a steady manner.
I think the squad is a lot weaker than last season so therefore there is alot of work to do.
Post Edited (Thu 13 Jun 18:47)
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Thu 13 Jun 19:03
How do we know Raith are going for broke though?
Sometimes I think we just plant seeds in our minds that Raith are blowing money and on the road to financial ruin to make us feel better about the manner in which we’re approaching things as a club.
Raith are riding a right positive wave at the moment, fair play.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 13 Jun 19:14
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 13 Jun 17:58
Quote:
Ianoappar, Thu 13 Jun 17:46
Wullie Gibsons son Lewis signs for Raith Rovers.
Wee team knocking it out the park just now have you seen the
Byrne signing video its brilliant.
And John Potter is relentless according to their supporters in chasing down signings.
Wonder when the money runs out or the laundrette stops working?🤔
Shh...Greedy Smurf will come after you for making suggestions like that 😂
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Thu 13 Jun 19:32
Quote:
Berry, Thu 13 Jun 19:03
How do we know Raith are going for broke though?
Sometimes I think we just plant seeds in our minds that Raith are blowing money and on the road to financial ruin to make us feel better about the manner in which we’re approaching things as a club.
Raith are riding a right positive wave at the moment, fair play.
Yer 100% right about the positive wave since the play offs the rovers have signed 4 new players, re-signed 3 players and Andy Barrowman has given an in depth interview.
What have we had since the season finished? Information coming via another fans meeting. Cook should be getting interviewed about last season and the ambition for this season and for it to be available for all pars fans not just a handful at meetings
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 13 Jun 19:43
We have never even heard if the grass got cut this week or not FFS
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 13 Jun 22:37
Quote:
Berry, Thu 13 Jun 19:03
How do we know Raith are going for broke though?
Sometimes I think we just plant seeds in our minds that Raith are blowing money and on the road to financial ruin to make us feel better about the manner in which we’re approaching things as a club.
Raith are riding a right positive wave at the moment, fair play.
Raith had a mid season report in February and they were predicting a profit for the year.In their first 7 months under the new owners they were up over 600k in revenue on the same 7 month period in the previous season.Their outlay had only increased by £129k.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Fri 14 Jun 09:59
I don`t understand how many fans still don`t get that we are skint.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Fri 14 Jun 12:06
I saw the revenues from tv, I think we totalled £250,000 and Raith got £650,000. They clearly did the maths and thought it was worth speculating
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 14 Jun 12:08
Quote:
doctordandruff, Fri 14 Jun 12:06
I saw the revenues from tv, I think we totalled £250,000 and Raith got £650,000. They clearly did the maths and thought it was worth speculating
Sure that was the revenues from the league and cups. We were in the bottom 3 earners from prize funds if I recall.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 14 Jun 12:11
Raith were also one game away on two occasions from a massive payday. More notably livi in the cup and also the County games
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Fri 14 Jun 17:11
Owen Moffat now a free agent after contract at Blackpool "mutually terminated"
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 14 Jun 17:30
Quote:
GJS93, Fri 14 Jun 17:11
Owen Moffat now a free agent after contract at Blackpool "mutually terminated"
Wouldn`t be surprised to see him back.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 14 Jun 17:33
Need to be looking at better than what we had last year imo
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Fri 14 Jun 17:38
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 14 Jun 17:33
Need to be looking at better than what we had last year imo
We should always be looking at better
but if the opportunity arises to get someone like owen on a free then it`s a no brainer. There is potential there.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 15 Jun 14:08
I’d take Moffat over some raw untried youngsters with no senior experience at all but he was anonymous more than he was good and struggled physically in this league.
Given I think there’s prob only 1 spot for a creative midfielder in our team looking at who we already have I’d be looking for more experience and consistency in there, Moffat maybe a good squad player though if no better options.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sat 15 Jun 14:44
Charlie Telfer has rejected a new contract at Airdrie he`s somebody I`d like to see us sign
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sat 15 Jun 23:06
Interesting people say we are skint, and raith are not, I did mention this in my earlier post, but I don`t believe it
Ignoring how much free cash owners pump in. So, as an operating business, surely we have more turnover and potential profit
Who has the highest wage bill
Who gets the highest advertising income
Who has the biggest crowd income
Who has the biggest net transfer surplus
Who has the highest legacy debt to service
What other projects are funded, and is this a separate business, i.e., training grounds
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sun 16 Jun 07:59
Quote:
thebear, Sat 15 Jun 23:06
Interesting people say we are skint, and raith are not, I did mention this in my earlier post, but I don`t believe it
Ignoring how much free cash owners pump in. So, as an operating business, surely we have more turnover and potential profit
Who has the highest wage bill
Who gets the highest advertising income
Who has the biggest crowd income
Who has the biggest net transfer surplus
Who has the highest legacy debt to service
What other projects are funded, and is this a separate business, i.e., training grounds
Regardless of sources of income, raith seem to be more willing to spend on the first team.
A few things to consider.
We spent a season in a lower league at a cost of £1m
We are improving the training ground.
Raith have earned considerable prize money the passed few seasons.
Our board philosophies seem to be different.
It has been mentioned at various supporters meetings and in the press that our budget/operating costs are high.
Post Edited (Sun 16 Jun 08:00)
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Sun 16 Jun 10:31
From the very limited amount I`ve seen of Moffat, I would be happy to see him back. He seems to add a bit of "grit"(?) to midfield. He`s a young player so will likely be a bit inconsistent but I got the impression he could be the difference in games for us. Willing to take a shot now and again.
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Sun 16 Jun 11:20
Would take Moffat back in a minute, fits the profile we are after and definitely has quality. Morton away on the Friday night sticks out in my mind two cracking goals.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sun 16 Jun 11:25
Did Moffat play enough games to justify signing him on a permanent basis.
I`d like to think we have better players targeted
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sun 16 Jun 11:35
Interesting that Blackpool terminated his contract, Celtic had a decent sell on clause with them, I wonder what happens there?
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sun 16 Jun 12:01
nothing happens...
"I`d like to think we have better players targeted"
but will those players sign? should always aim for better, aim high etc but you have to be realistic at the same time and also not wait forever on those players while alternatives could be ready to sign.
Post Edited (Sun 16 Jun 14:31)
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Topic Originator: Pars Athletic
Date: Sun 16 Jun 14:15
Quote:
PARadise, Sun 16 Jun 11:20
Would take Moffat back in a minute, fits the profile we are after and definitely has quality. Morton away on the Friday night sticks out in my mind two cracking goals.
That game at morton and the week after against Dundee utd were his highlights all season, never seen much else the rest of the season. Too lightweight and need to be looking at signing better
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 16 Jun 14:40
We would be better with Paul Allan than Moffat. Apart from one good game he did nothing. We need better players than him
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 16 Jun 14:52
Being honest, the biggest issue last season (apart from injuries) was a predictable formation. We need to be able to adapt. Obviously to do that you need a mixture of versatile players and a decent sized squad to choose from. There was very little rotation last season, mainly due to injuries. We know we need a keeper, a central defender and at least one midfielder.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 16 Jun 14:58
Signing on players from last season isn`t going to improve us, especially with the current tactics/formation
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Sun 16 Jun 15:38
Raith had a very good short term plan, which brought them success. They worked out the right 7 players to sign early which would give them a squad that could challenge at the top. That required investment. They then built an excellent promotional campaign with social media and community engagement, all built together, with continuous open communication from their board and mainly their CEO. Success bred success and they went on an incredible run. As if they hyped themselves up so that everyone else just believed it! But for all the noise, in the background their calculations were right. The success they got has got them the money back, and they go again.
Compare that to us. Despite having an excellent season, we lost all momentum and went into the campaign woefully underequipped. It took until February for us to get enough players to threaten filling our bench. All season we’ve heard very little from our board and even less from our CEO. We’ve signed one player this close season, making us yet again the slowest in the window.
Honest to f..k it’s so frustrating.
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sun 16 Jun 16:22
Ayr UTD have got their business done with some excellent signings. Were miles behind atm, the silence from the club is deafening.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sun 16 Jun 16:30
Ayr just announced McMann from Utd aswell. Along with Oakley and Dowds they are getting some serious business done.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sun 16 Jun 16:40
Ayr have signed 5 players but I`m sure they still have a smaller squad than us?
I don`t see us making too many signings which isn`t necessarily a bad thing imo, provided they are of the right quality. Invariably, a team will struggle for a period if there is a high player turnover.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Sun 16 Jun 17:05
could be quite an interesting open day I think Pars fans are unhappy just now and that`s from speaking tae various fans on Friday all asking the same thing about lack of signings.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 16 Jun 19:19
Club probably will have to wait until the Edwards money comes in to get players and it will probably be just loans. Rovers again have made some quality signings BUT if we stay injury free then im sure we will be in a play off place.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 17 Jun 11:32
no doubt some people will ask about signings but they will get the football answer, we are speaking to players, trying hard to improve the squad, got to be the right player/type/quality, premier teams arent back for preseason yet so no movement on loan deals yet etc etc.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Mon 17 Jun 11:53
Quote:
GJS93, Mon 17 Jun 11:32
no doubt some people will ask about signings but they will get the football answer, we are speaking to players, trying hard to improve the squad, got to be the right player/type/quality, premier teams arent back for preseason yet so no movement on loan deals yet etc etc.
You mean the same response for the last 4 transfer windows.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 17 Jun 11:57
thats what i would expect yes, although Football_Par seems to know the answer going by a post on this and the other signing thread?
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Mon 17 Jun 12:08
GJS93 wrote:
> thats what i would expect yes, although Football_Par seems to
> know the answer going by a post on this and the other signing
> thread?
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The manager cant come out and say these owners are seriously wettingme off by the way they always procrastinate over every player i ask for.
He has to be diplomatic but if you think it dosnt seriously p*** him off your being nieve.
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Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle
Date: Mon 17 Jun 12:27
A goalkeeper, a left back and an attack minded player is all we will see this summer.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Mon 17 Jun 16:07
We will be left with the dross as usual
G.B
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Jun 16:10
Dross like Chris Kane, MFW and MWH?
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 17 Jun 16:19
Topic Originator: Ladswell_Thistle like
Date: Mon 17 Jun 12:27
A goalkeeper, a left back and an attack minded player is all we will see this summer.
Get an experienced CH or we will be in the same situation again if Bene gets injured..
Goalkeeper, CH, FB, Attacking Mid and LM/LW….
My feelings are the same as most. Maybe two more in the window then loans…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Mon 17 Jun 16:24
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 17 Jun 16:10
Dross like Chris Kane, MFW and MWH?
Maybe not dross but you could replace that wording with right at the end of transfer window when we`ve already been knocked out a winnable cup group and already adrift in the league.
All doom and gloom from me right now not seeing many positive going into the new season
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Jun 17:01
I think you`re mixing up the transfer windows? I`m frustrated we don`t know what`s going on but I`d say over the time McPake has been at the club his transfer business has been more good than bad.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 17:24
His permanent signings last year left a lot to be desired in terms of outputs. Would also say lengthy deals to Mehmet and O Halleron indicate some poor judgement if the aim is to be top half of championship.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 17 Jun 17:46
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 17 Jun 17:01
I think you`re mixing up the transfer windows? I`m frustrated we don`t know what`s going on but I`d say over the time McPake has been at the club his transfer business has been more good than bad.
Loans hit or miss as expected, signings mostly good. His choice of whom to offer long term contracts though... That will impact us in the long term
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 17:53
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theparsman1885, Mon 17 Jun 17:24
His permanent signings last year left a lot to be desired in terms of outputs. Would also say lengthy deals to Mehmet and O Halleron indicate some poor judgement if the aim is to be top half of championship.
The aim was survival. So by rights, his signings were spot on.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:05
There isn`t a manager on the planet who has a 100% record on transfers. It`s only punters on the internet who manage that...
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:05
Depends on the standards and expectations I suppose. Fail to understand how a club of our attendances and gate income should be aiming to “survive”. Such a low bar. Going by the general apathy and slow season ticket sales, I’m certainly not alone with my concern.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:13
Quote:
theparsman1885, Mon 17 Jun 18:05
Depends on the standards and expectations I suppose. Fail to understand how a club of our attendances and gate income should be aiming to “survive”. Such a low bar. Going by the general apathy and slow season ticket sales, I’m certainly not alone with my concern.
The aim last season as newly promoted club was to ensure we stayed up (40pts).
The aim this season hasn`t been made public but I can all but guarantee it will be Conservative as get the same points tally as last season ASAP then kick on from there.
Our gate and attendances are insignificant when you factor in the losses we incurred and the fact our prize money has been low for 3 seasons in a row.
It`s starting to feel like repeating the same thing over and over again but we will be aiming more to be efficient with our squad/spending as opposed to being reckless.
We`ve done the same thing for the last 20 years, and it`s got us nowhere. And the 10 years before that we tried buying success and look where that got us.
We need to try something different and make a self sustainable model which will hopefully bring us success.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:14
Quote:
theparsman1885, Mon 17 Jun 18:05
Depends on the standards and expectations I suppose. Fail to understand how a club of our attendances and gate income should be aiming to “survive”. Such a low bar. Going by the general apathy and slow season ticket sales, I’m certainly not alone with my concern.
Exactly this. Even opposition fans don’t understand why we are aiming so low with our fan base and income. Unless the money is going somewhere else. One of the most expensive season tickets but can’t attract players 🤔.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:18
Our income has been terrible for 3 years on the bounce,
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:21
Do folk think Falkirk will have such low targets for next season absolutely no danger. Their expectations will be to challenge at the top.
Team just promoted from league 1
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:25
Quote:
LEGEND85, Mon 17 Jun 18:21
Do folk think Falkirk will have such low targets for next season absolutely no danger. Their expectations will be to challenge at the top.
Team just promoted from league 1
And falkirks fans will be no different than pars fans last year In that regard. But I guarantee Mcginn and the board will be concentrating on survival first and foremost
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:25
Quote:
weemike, Mon 17 Jun 18:18
Our income has been terrible for 3 years on the bounce,
But the question is WHY is it so terrible when teams with crap crowds like Raith seem to be balancing the books?
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:26
Quote:
LEGEND85, Mon 17 Jun 18:21
Do folk think Falkirk will have such low targets for next season absolutely no danger. Their expectations will be to challenge at the top.
Team just promoted from league 1
Looking at their signings so far, I’d say survival is Falkirk’s aim. You’re not winning a league signing Tate, Ross and McKenna.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:27
Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:05
There isn`t a manager on the planet who has a 100% record on transfers. It`s only punters on the internet who manage that...
Why is your default to be so snide to your fellow fans?
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:28
Agreed the Boss and legend
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:29
And correct Jake.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:29
Quote:
jake89, Mon 17 Jun 18:25
Quote:
weemike, Mon 17 Jun 18:18
Our income has been terrible for 3 years on the bounce,
But the question is WHY is it so terrible when teams with crap crowds like Raith seem to be balancing the books?
The income has been terrible, due to,
1. low standings in the spfl system.
2. No cup runs
3. Full time salaries in a part time league.
Prize money has been extremely low 2 seasons before last. Raith have probably earned 5x in the last 3 seasons
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:32
weemike wrote:
> Quote:
jake89, Mon 17 Jun 18:25
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> Quote:
weemike, Mon 17 Jun 18:18
>
> Our income has been terrible for 3 years on the bounce,
>
> But the question is WHY is it so terrible when teams with crap
> crowds like Raith seem to be balancing the books?
>
> The income has been terrible, due to,
>
> 1. low standings in the spfl system.
> 2. No cup runs
> 3. Full time salaries in a part time league.
>
> Prize money has been extremely low 2 seasons before last. Raith
> have probably earned 5x in the last 3 seasons
We had an Ibrox pay day in 21/22 season.
Even prize money aside, our gate income far more than the majority of the league.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:34
Quote:
theparsman1885, Mon 17 Jun 18:32
weemike wrote:
> Quote:
jake89, Mon 17 Jun 18:25
>
> Quote:
weemike, Mon 17 Jun 18:18
>
> Our income has been terrible for 3 years on the bounce,
>
> But the question is WHY is it so terrible when teams with crap
> crowds like Raith seem to be balancing the books?
>
> The income has been terrible, due to,
>
> 1. low standings in the spfl system.
> 2. No cup runs
> 3. Full time salaries in a part time league.
>
> Prize money has been extremely low 2 seasons before last. Raith
> have probably earned 5x in the last 3 seasons
We had an Ibrox pay day in 21/22 season.
Even prize money aside, our gate income far more than the majority of the league.
Your still glossing over and disregarding the £1 million loss from league 1.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:38
I`m not being snide. I`m saying how I see it. Another line that`s frequently trotted out on here is that we should be spending more because we have higher gates. Ticket sales aren`t the only source of income. Somebody posted a table of prize money on the EEB forum based on the league and cup competitions and we were well down it.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 18:44
There is going to be some really disappointed posters on this forum when we are not near the top by October, and it`ll all be because they got carried away thinking we are a big fish in a wee pond.
The fact is we are where we deserve to be.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Mon 17 Jun 19:04
Quote:
weemike, Mon 17 Jun 18:44
There is going to be some really disappointed posters on this forum when we are not near the top by October, and it`ll all be because they got carried away thinking we are a big fish in a wee pond.
The fact is we are where we deserve to be.
I don’t think you need to wait until October. Fans are disappointed just now. Club has known for weeks what division we’ll be in and we’ve had one signing. This from a team that just managed to stay up. People can make all the excuses they want but it’ll be McPake under pressure if there isn’t an improvement this season. That’s football.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: LEGEND85
Date: Mon 17 Jun 19:16
Quote:
The Boss, Mon 17 Jun 19:04
Quote:
weemike, Mon 17 Jun 18:44
There is going to be some really disappointed posters on this forum when we are not near the top by October, and it`ll all be because they got carried away thinking we are a big fish in a wee pond.
The fact is we are where we deserve to be.
I don’t think you need to wait until October. Fans are disappointed just now. Club has known for weeks what division we’ll be in and we’ve had one signing. This from a team that just managed to stay up. People can make all the excuses they want but it’ll be McPake under pressure if there isn’t an improvement this season. That’s football.
Agree with this folk are unhappy now I`ve not spoken with every single pars fans this summer and folk are concerned.
Even if we started playing well and winning games at East End it would be some kind of progress but as it stands just now it would seem unlikely
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 17 Jun 19:32
> The income has been terrible, due to,
>
> 1. low standings in the spfl system.
> 2. No cup runs
> 3. Full time salaries in a part time league.
>
> Prize money has been extremely low 2 seasons before last. Raith
> have probably earned 5x in the last 3 seasons
Rovers have been in league one for 3 seasons out of the last 7.
Falkirk 5 in a row.
Both these teams are in a better position than we are financially it seems……………
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 19:36
Quote:
desparado, Mon 17 Jun 19:32
> The income has been terrible, due to,
>
> 1. low standings in the spfl system.
> 2. No cup runs
> 3. Full time salaries in a part time league.
>
> Prize money has been extremely low 2 seasons before last. Raith
> have probably earned 5x in the last 3 seasons
Rovers have been in league one for 3 seasons out of the last 7.
Falkirk 5 in a row.
Both these teams are in a better position than we are financially it seems……………
That`s quite a stretch seeing as the Rovers have spent the last 4 in the championship 😳
No one has said falkirk are better off than us.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 19:50
20-21 Rovers finished 3rd beat us in the playoffs, league Cup group stage, scottish Cup 3rd round
21-22 rovers finished 5th, league Cup 1/4s scottish cup5th round both away to celtic. And they won the challenge Cup.
22-23, rovers finished 7th, league Cup group stage and scottish Cup 1/4`s away to rangers, finalists in the challenge Cup
23-24, rovers finished 2nd, play off finals league Cup 2nd round scottish Cup 4th round challenge Cup semi`s
That`s some record for the last four years and some earnings to go with it.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Mon 17 Jun 21:21
I think the days when gate receipts funded a football club and that translated into performances and league position are long over. We are a club no bigger or smaller than the likes of Raith, Falkirk, Partick etc. All clubs who are in our league this season. Raith and Partick in the cold light of day are in our league despite their league position finish last season. The clock resets and we go again and it`s anyone`s league in my view.
On the Josh Edwards transfer fee; if the sums quoted are to believed is symptomatic of the problems that our club face. It`s not realistic for a club like ours to sell or buy multi million pound players. The reality is we are going to bump along the bottom of a very competitive league unless we can change it in some way. That is what the youth development policy is meant to be about. The assistant manager has already spelled out the reason we cannot retain the services of Paul Allan. In many ways its about the cost of a player and not the value. That seems to be the way of it these days. I don`t see any mind blowing news coming from the club in terms of signings because there is likely to be a wage structure to work within based on the financial projections for the season. That will limit our options and ability to attract experienced players.
I see promotion to the premiership as a one shot deal. We either finish top to guarantee promotion or nothing. Anything else is a bigger gamble. We also have to build a team capable of staying up to have some sort of continuity. Sadly, I see this all taking time, probably 2 or 3 years but that might be the price to be paid for success.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 22:06
Average attendance of 5,444 - average income per person £15 (majority adults and taking into account some concession) = £1.46million
Raiths this season (best in their recent history) - 4022, same methodology gives them £1.08m.
That gap was much bigger even when we were in league 1.
We have a bigger hospitality income too. Right away that’s nearly £400k.
Tell me again how we shouldn’t be doing better?
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Mon 17 Jun 22:11
Quote:
theparsman1885, Mon 17 Jun 22:06
Average attendance of 5,444 - average income per person £15 (majority adults and taking into account some concession) = £1.46million
Raiths this season (best in their recent history) - 4022, same methodology gives them £1.08m.
That gap was much bigger even when we were in league 1.
We have a bigger hospitality income too. Right away that’s nearly £400k.
Tell me again how we shouldn’t be doing better?
Mate, a tonne of those tickets are concessions - look at the north stand for example. And we pay VAT on gate receipts.
We have higher running costs than Raith due to stadium and academy/training investment and poorer prize money the season before.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Mon 17 Jun 22:24
Quote:
theparsman1885, Mon 17 Jun 22:06
Average attendance of 5,444 - average income per person £15 (majority adults and taking into account some concession) = £1.46million
Raiths this season (best in their recent history) - 4022, same methodology gives them £1.08m.
That gap was much bigger even when we were in league 1.
We have a bigger hospitality income too. Right away that’s nearly £400k.
Tell me again how we shouldn’t be doing better?
I`ve told you more than once we operated at a 1m loss 2 seasons ago. You keep ignoring this. Do you think those costs just disappeared the next season? Add to that the prize money we lost out on......but raith have been receiving.... it easy to see why they are performing better than us.
Just because we have more fans doesn`t automatically make us the better/bigger team, the correct foundations need to be in place.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 22:38
Rusty, I thought I was already being lenient in the income per ticket, plus I haven’t included any of the league cup games or Scottish cup games or challenge cup games, or indeed a penny of hospitality. Or indeed St Pauli money.
Weemike, I’ll ask whose fault is it we’re making such high losses? The Kevin Nisbet money going into cash flow rather than being a bonanza? Doesn’t our higher income make it even more galling that we’re in such a high loss position?
We haven’t had a full season of costs of academy or training ground either, so more losses?
Guys, I don’t understand why we’re letting this board off the hook so easily. After such a poor season, to have so little communication from the club. Like i say, awful season ticket sales so far - I’m not the only one totally underwhelmed. We have our first pre season friendly a week on Friday btw…
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 18 Jun 00:05
Quote:
theparsman1885, Mon 17 Jun 22:38
Rusty, I thought I was already being lenient in the income per ticket, plus I haven’t included any of the league cup games or Scottish cup games or challenge cup games, or indeed a penny of hospitality. Or indeed St Pauli money.
Weemike, I’ll ask whose fault is it we’re making such high losses? The Kevin Nisbet money going into cash flow rather than being a bonanza? Doesn’t our higher income make it even more galling that we’re in such a high loss position?
We haven’t had a full season of costs of academy or training ground either, so more losses?
Guys, I don’t understand why we’re letting this board off the hook so easily. After such a poor season, to have so little communication from the club. Like i say, awful season ticket sales so far - I’m not the only one totally underwhelmed. We have our first pre season friendly a week on Friday btw…
Hard to argue with any of this.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 18 Jun 00:06)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jun 00:11
Who do you think is financing the losses? We don`t have any overdraft facility. Reading this thread you would think the board was recklessly losing other folks` money.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 18 Jun 08:04
We know who is financing the losses. The concern is why the losses are so huge?
Reading between the lines, it looks like the board don`t want to suffer the same kind of losses again, understandably so?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 18 Jun 08:39
Weemike, I’ll ask whose fault is it we’re making such high losses? The Kevin Nisbet money going into cash flow rather than being a bonanza? Doesn’t our higher income make it even more galling that we’re in such a high loss position?
I`m assuming the losses come from the last time we played in the championship and built a squad with a budget to compete at the top end but that squad plummeted down the table.
Losing out on prize money compounded the issue for that season.
The season in league 1 was a hail mary and we are probably going to have to pay for that risk for a couple of season.
But would you have rather had a complete clear out in league 1 and maybe still be stuck there?
I think it was a risk worth taking but we just have to steady the ship now for a few seasons while we build a squad that won`t only win the championship but stay in the Premiership.
Anyone with deep pockets can pump money in to get near the top 2, but it can end up being a fools errand when you`re the whipping boys in the league above.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 18 Jun 08:55
Not on field personnel but see Ayr have got Rob McLean in as a consultant to oversee all their media output.
They seem to be getting it together on and off the park between that, the new stand and backing Brown in the transfer market.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 18 Jun 10:02
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 18 Jun 08:04
We know who is financing the losses. The concern is why the losses are so huge?
Reading between the lines, it looks like the board don`t want to suffer the same kind of losses again, understandably so?
Exactly this. I also agree with theparsman. I think this board should be scrutinised. Raising our season ticket prices again, for what? Some young loan player that can’t even kick a ball. It’s not like we have a team of stars. It’s a team of (sorry to say this) average players. So where is all the money going? If we have major issues and can’t attract players, just be honest with the fans.
Who’s to blame? Is it the board or McCpake? We all know that it’ll be latter that will be under pressure come Christmas if performances are similar to last season.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Tue 18 Jun 10:24
The Boss wrote:
> Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 18 Jun 08:04
>
> We know who is financing the losses. The concern is why the
> losses are so huge?
>
> Reading between the lines, it looks like the board don`t want
> to suffer the same kind of losses again, understandably
> so?
>
> Exactly this. I also agree with theparsman. I think this board
> should be scrutinised. Raising our season ticket prices again,
> for what? Some young loan player that can’t even kick a ball.
> It’s not like we have a team of stars. It’s a team of
> (sorry to say this) average players. So where is all the money
> going? If we have major issues and can’t attract players,
> just be honest with the fans.
>
> Who’s to blame? Is it the board or McCpake? We all know that
> it’ll be latter that will be under pressure come Christmas if
> performances are similar to last season.
>
>
what loan players have we had that "cant even kick a ball ? "
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Tue 18 Jun 10:34
Quote:
Football_Par, Tue 18 Jun 10:24
The Boss wrote:
> Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 18 Jun 08:04
>
> We know who is financing the losses. The concern is why the
> losses are so huge?
>
> Reading between the lines, it looks like the board don`t want
> to suffer the same kind of losses again, understandably
> so?
>
> Exactly this. I also agree with theparsman. I think this board
> should be scrutinised. Raising our season ticket prices again,
> for what? Some young loan player that can’t even kick a ball.
> It’s not like we have a team of stars. It’s a team of
> (sorry to say this) average players. So where is all the money
> going? If we have major issues and can’t attract players,
> just be honest with the fans.
>
> Who’s to blame? Is it the board or McCpake? We all know that
> it’ll be latter that will be under pressure come Christmas if
> performances are similar to last season.
>
what loan players have we had that "cant even kick a ball ? "
Bradley Holmes.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 18 Jun 11:00
its almost as if Ayr are being bankrolled by somebody, perhaps thats what McArthur and the previous board members should have been looking for instead of continuing the path they had tried to start beforehand.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 18 Jun 11:15
We are being bankrolled though, albeit with a different strategy.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 15:54
Weemike, due to the contracts that the board issued, we had no choice other than to have a “Hail Mary” season in league 1. It’s not as if they had any control over that thanks to the shambles that was season 21/22.
Credit where it’s due that league 1 season we got a lot right. Not just about winning games (there were a few dire draws in there too). The communication from the club was far better too.
Should make you think why are so many of our fans across a number of platforms so disillusioned? There’s a few on this very thread who previously had been very positive about the club but now pretty open about their misgivings. Why is that?
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 18 Jun 15:59
Quote:
theparsman1885, Tue 18 Jun 15:54
Weemike, due to the contracts that the board issued, we had no choice other than to have a “Hail Mary” season in league 1. It’s not as if they had any control over that thanks to the shambles that was season 21/22.
Credit where it’s due that league 1 season we got a lot right. Not just about winning games (there were a few dire draws in there too). The communication from the club was far better too.
Should make you think why are so many of our fans across a number of platforms so disillusioned? There’s a few on this very thread who previously had been very positive about the club but now pretty open about their misgivings. Why is that?
So you agree that money is tight and we should cut our cloth accordingly?
Or should we continue to spend money we don`t have?
What do you suggest we do?
Organise a lynch mob and sack the board?
You keep asking why fans are disillusioned or why are we not splashing the cash but don`t seem to accept the reasons behind it.
Genuinely what do you want and expect from the club right now?
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Topic Originator: maradona86
Date: Tue 18 Jun 16:13
Logan Chalmers joins Patrick Thistle.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 16:17
So you agree that money is tight and we should cut our cloth accordingly?
We should budget accordingly. But we should be doing so much more to encourage ticket sales and have strategy behind it other than just “buy fanzone or season tickets”.. what’s the motivation for fans to buy into this season?
Or should we continue to spend money we don`t have?
No, but when have I ever suggested that. You’re the only one who said you were happy with a financial gamble as in season 22/23.
What do you suggest we do?
Be swifter in the transfer market and ensure we get targets on board quicker. We should absolutely not be offering long term deals to players over the age of 30 (which is the case currently with 4 of them). We cannot afford to run into a season with such a small squad yet again. For all the savings this supposedly makes we lose in terms of prize money, performance, momentum and as is the result this season, ticket sales.
Organise a lynch mob and sack the board?
There’s a difference between asking searching questions and demanding communication to getting into a lynch mob. Such jump from you discredits your question.
You keep asking why fans are disillusioned or why are we not splashing the cash but don`t seem to accept the reasons behind it.
You clearly aren’t reading. I’ve never said “splash the cash”. I’m questioning the value of the money we are spending and how we’re doing it. I’m also very disappointed with the communication from the board and club as a whole. This is something they are aware of coming from the notes of focus groups I’ve read. But to me it’s empty words until there’s actual action. Thats on the CEO/chair in my opinion. Night and day to previous.
Genuinely what do you want and expect from the club right now?
Far superior communication for a start, inject some life into this pre season campaign. For the additions of paid staff into the non footballing areas I want to see a hell of a lot more from them in terms of their value of the wider fan base.
None of this is unachievable.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 16:18
I’d have taken Chalmers here. Moffat was ok for us but to push on I think we need better.
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Topic Originator: Football_Par
Date: Tue 18 Jun 16:22
theparsman1885 wrote:
> I’d have taken Chalmers here. Moffat was ok for us but to
> push on I think we need better.
>
>
Both are wingers, we mainly dont play with them
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Tue 18 Jun 16:23
Moffat going to Morton seemingly. I’m glad we’re not signing him. He played well in a few games but was mostly non existent. I would have loved us to sign Chalmers though.
Raith, Falkirk, Partick, Livi and Ayr are all looking stronger than us at the moment. Hopefully we have a few decent signings lined up on the coming weeks.
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Tue 18 Jun 16:52
We are in line for a relegation scrap as it stands. The windows since the Germans n mcpake come in have been nothing short of stinking. The good organised sides do business early and start pre season with nucleus of squad, we always seem to be far to slow.
Not arsed about not signing Moffat tbh, despite having ability he failed to have any impact bar a couple of games all season.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jun 17:07
`Q -What do you suggest we do?
A - Be swifter in the transfer market and ensure we get targets on board quicker. We should absolutely not be offering long term deals to players over the age of 30 (which is the case currently with 4 of them). We cannot afford to run into a season with such a small squad yet again. For all the savings this supposedly makes we lose in terms of prize money, performance, momentum and as is the result this season, ticket sales.`
We are constantly being compared unfavourably with Raith yet they have recently signed Fordyce (32 next week), Stevenson (36) and Byrne (31) on two-year deals. If you don`t offer a decent player who is over 30 at least a two-year deal I doubt he will sign. Incidentally there has been no news for over a week of Paul Hanlon signing for the Rovers although this was trailed around the time they signed Stevenson.
I don`t think our squad was particularly small last season, it was just unfortunate that we incurred an unprecedented number of injuries which could hardly have been anticipated.
The club are expected to splash the cash in the transfer market to improve the squad but, at the same time, we`re expected to run at a profit. That could be a hard circle to square. Presumably a big part of the loss in 2022/23 was the initial expenditure on Rosyth but this is likely to continue to be the case in the 2023/24 accounts.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 17:43
Quote:
EastEndTales, Tue 18 Jun 11:12
That worked well for us before right enough.
We were bankrolled by a loan double the size of that required to bring East End Park up to 10k standard……not by Gavin Masterton being a multi millionaire
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 17:48
If a club cannot fill a bench for the majority of the season, the squad isn’t big enough. For large periods of the season it wasn’t big enough. Mcpake has said that himself.
At no point have I said we should copy Raith. For me we have enough players at 30 or over.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jun 18:03
When the unfit players became available McPake said the size of the squad became unwieldy and was detrimental to the effectiveness of training sessions. If we`d started off with a big squad and had a normal number of injuries we would have had a lot of unhappy players not involved on match days. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 18:16
wee eck wrote:
> When the unfit players became available McPake said the size of
> the squad became unwieldy and was detrimental to the
> effectiveness of training sessions. If we`d started off with a
> big squad and had a normal number of injuries we would have had
> a lot of unhappy players not involved on match days. Hindsight
> is a wonderful thing.
You’re doing a very good job of twisting the facts to suit your argument. Your memory either isn’t as good as it used to be or you’re at it. Only when we went out and signed a glut of players end of Feb, did it become unwieldy- perhaps the board realised just how close they’d taken us to the drop with their recruitment behaviour.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 18:18
We started the season with too small a squad. We didn’t add enough before the closing of the first window, we ran so short up until January we had that god awful game v Queens Park. We then signed 3 players - two of whom it was unfair on them as they weren’t of the quality we needed and only when we finally got Kane and MWH did we look stable. Then those who were injured started to return. But all through last season we were light even taking into account of injuries. Dont understand how anyone can see otherwise?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jun 18:54
What size of squad do you think we should start this season with then? I wonder how the size of our squad compared with others in the Championship. You`re being wise after the event.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 18 Jun 18:57
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 18 Jun 18:54
What size of squad do you think we should start this season with then? I wonder how the size of our squad compared with others in the Championship. You`re being wise after the event.
Big squads are better, or so I`ve heard.
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 19:00
wee eck wrote:
> What size of squad do you think we should start this season
> with then? I wonder how the size of our squad compared with
> others in the Championship. You`re being wise after the event.
I absolutely am not. Throughout last season I bemoaned the low squad size and compared to many others it was far too low. I’ve been consistent with this point of criticism.
Clearly you and others who share your point are happy with the club in this aspect. I am not. Not going to change your mind obviously so leave it at that.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jun 19:51
So you can`t tell us what size our squad should be for the start of 2024/25? That says it all really.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Tue 18 Jun 20:34
Ayr united sign 21 year old wide player Ethan Walker on a 2 year deal after his contract expires at Blackburn Rovers
Post Edited (Tue 18 Jun 20:34)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 18 Jun 22:06
We should be offering a few of our in contract players up as available for transfer and trying to get them out even if we have to loan them and pay a bit towards their wages. The decisions to give these guys longer contracts has hamstrung us this year.
A squad is good if you have players who can come in and make a difference. We have a decent first 11 but nothing in the squad and yet we have 20 players signed up for this season so that’s 9 players who are either young and trying to make thier way or older pro’s not good enough. That’s our problem.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 18 Jun 22:19
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 18 Jun 22:06
We should be offering a few of our in contract players up as available for transfer and trying to get them out even if we have to loan them and pay a bit towards their wages. The decisions to give these guys longer contracts has hamstrung us this year.
A squad is good if you have players who can come in and make a difference. We have a decent first 11 but nothing in the squad and yet we have 20 players signed up for this season so that’s 9 players who are either young and trying to make thier way or older pro’s not good enough. That’s our problem.
Who would you be looking to get rid of?
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Tue 18 Jun 22:40
Joe Chalmers and Michael O’Halloran I would say.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jun 22:43
I thought we only had 17 signed first team players, including Tod and Sutherland, and that will be down to 16 now that Josh Edwards has signed for Charlton?
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 18 Jun 22:58
Mehmet
Comrie
Bene
Breen
Fisher
Otoo
Hamilton
Chalmers
KRH
Todd
O`Halloran
McCann
Wighton
Kane
That`s the fundamentals of a decent Championship squad despite the lack of signings. Obvious need another keeper, a LB and another CM but we're not in bad shape.
A few key signings, either permanent or on loan, and we`ve got a chance IMO.
Post Edited (Tue 18 Jun 22:59)
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Topic Originator: theparsman1885
Date: Tue 18 Jun 23:02
Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Tue 18 Jun 19:51
So you can`t tell us what size our squad should be for the start of 2024/25? That says it all really.
I’ll ignore your snidey tone and indulge you one last time, though with your posting style you don’t deserve it.
I did respond with a number but the thread keeps collapsing and resetting on my phone.
I think a squad size of 20 at the start of the season where all 20 can contribute on the pitch. This should include being fully fit and not include kids who are there just to make up numbers like the majority of last season where McPake had no intention of playing them. If there are players we know will
Be out injured for 3-4 months, there should be a loan signing in to make up for that.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 19 Jun 00:06
I`m surprised you`d be happy with a squad of 20 That wouldn`t have given us much cover if we`d had 8 players injured at the same time as happened last season. If we`re going to pursue a policy of youth development we need to provide a pathway for young players to advance to the first team so we can`t just freeze them out of the match-day squad. I think Tod featured in the League Cup games last season and Taylor Sutherland came on and scored in the tie at Albion Rovers. I expect them both to feature more prominently this season but, as McPake always says, they`ve got to earn their place.
How is the manager supposed to anticipate a player being injured for 3-4 months and what if this happens outside the transfer windows?
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Wed 19 Jun 02:23
see thread Part 2 (this one too long)
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