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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Mon 17 Jun 17:42
Apologies, I usually start a thread for the majority tournaments but been quite busy.
So , belatedly, here it is.
Currently Belgium 0 Slovakia 1 nearing half time.
Could we be in for the first shock of the tournament?
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Mon 17 Jun 19:00
Belgium scored a decent goal but VAR did what it does and managed to find an infringement in the build up that not a single player on the pitch claimed for and not a single person watching noticed.
The slightest brush of a hand out by the touch line. A joke in my opinion.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 17 Jun 19:15
Quote:
1985Par, Mon 17 Jun 19:00
Belgium scored a decent goal but VAR did what it does and managed to find an infringement in the build up that not a single player on the pitch claimed for and not a single person watching noticed.
The slightest brush of a hand out by the touch line. A joke in my opinion.
The fact they have introduced sniko (cricket) technology to determine hand balls is crazy. Goal should never be ruled out based on dodgey tech like that - because the “snick” looked to be before it touched his hand 😂
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 17 Jun 19:38
Romania will be loving that result I’d imagine.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 17 Jun 20:21
Quote:
1985Par, Mon 17 Jun 19:00
Belgium scored a decent goal but VAR did what it does and managed to find an infringement in the build up that not a single player on the pitch claimed for and not a single person watching noticed.
The slightest brush of a hand out by the touch line. A joke in my opinion.
You mean, apart from the Slovakia player who was at the ref claiming hand ball immediately?
He got an advantage, albeit slight, by using his hand (intentionally or not). VAR got the correct decision.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 17 Jun 20:25
Quote:
DBA, Mon 17 Jun 20:21
Quote:
1985Par, Mon 17 Jun 19:00
Belgium scored a decent goal but VAR did what it does and managed to find an infringement in the build up that not a single player on the pitch claimed for and not a single person watching noticed.
The slightest brush of a hand out by the touch line. A joke in my opinion.
You mean, apart from the Slovakia player who was at the ref claiming hand ball immediately?
He got an advantage, albeit slight, by using his hand (intentionally or not). VAR got the correct decision.
It was a nonsense decision imo. Natural and maybe just caught a fingernail ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Mon 17 Jun 20:36
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 17 Jun 20:25
Quote:
DBA, Mon 17 Jun 20:21
Quote:
1985Par, Mon 17 Jun 19:00
Belgium scored a decent goal but VAR did what it does and managed to find an infringement in the build up that not a single player on the pitch claimed for and not a single person watching noticed.
The slightest brush of a hand out by the touch line. A joke in my opinion.
You mean, apart from the Slovakia player who was at the ref claiming hand ball immediately?
He got an advantage, albeit slight, by using his hand (intentionally or not). VAR got the correct decision.
It was a nonsense decision imo. Natural and maybe just caught a fingernail ?
Completely agree with this, footballs deed if that’s not a goal.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 17 Jun 20:41
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 17 Jun 20:25
Quote:
DBA, Mon 17 Jun 20:21
Quote:
1985Par, Mon 17 Jun 19:00
Belgium scored a decent goal but VAR did what it does and managed to find an infringement in the build up that not a single player on the pitch claimed for and not a single person watching noticed.
The slightest brush of a hand out by the touch line. A joke in my opinion.
You mean, apart from the Slovakia player who was at the ref claiming hand ball immediately?
He got an advantage, albeit slight, by using his hand (intentionally or not). VAR got the correct decision.
It was a nonsense decision imo. Natural and maybe just caught a fingernail ?
It`s the rule that`s the problem, not VAR. Letter of the law, it`s the correct decision. Don`t agree with the rule, but thems the breaks.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Mon 17 Jun 20:58
Regarding the disallowed goal. It’s like the VAR officials see the ball hit then net then immediately set about trying to do all they can to find something wrong with it.
The woman in the VAR studio talking about hand being in an unnatural position. Perhaps an official could demonstrate what the natural hand position is for a player who is moving at speed trying to maintain balance with a hefty defender shunting him. Presumably clasped behind his back??
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 17 Jun 21:06
Quote:
1985Par, Mon 17 Jun 20:58
Regarding the disallowed goal. It’s like the VAR officials see the ball hit then net then immediately set about trying to do all they can to find something wrong with it.
The woman in the VAR studio talking about hand being in an unnatural position. Perhaps an official could demonstrate what the natural hand position is for a player who is moving at speed trying to maintain balance with a hefty defender shunting him. Presumably clasped behind his back??
Bang on.
I heard they used a “snickmeter” as used in cricket to determine than the hand did contact the ball.
Crazy
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Tue 18 Jun 16:14
Today`s events (group F) are Turkey Vs Georgia (5pm)
and
Portugal Vs Czech republic (8pm)
From what I`ve heard Portugal are quite strong this time round.
Does Ronaldo still play or has he retired from international games ?
I`m going for wins for Turkey and Portugal for what it`s worth
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 18 Jun 18:55
fantastic finisher from Turkey! 🇹🇷
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 18 Jun 19:59
Portugal 🇵🇹 v Czech Republic 🇨🇿
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 18 Jun 20:33
Ronaldo is 39 now and the old warhorse Pepe is.....41!!!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 18 Jun 21:19
Goalllll Czech Republic 🇨🇿!
Ocht 3-1
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Wed 19 Jun 03:46
Heard Ronaldo lost his youngest goal scorer last night from 2004
He`s doing well
Was dropping down the prediction league table rapidly, but got a wee boost last night with 10 points 😊
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 19 Jun 12:53
Croatia Vs Albania up next.
I`m going for Croatia I think.
Pretty impressed with this tournament so far.
Seems to be goals aplenty.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Wed 19 Jun 14:16
Albania sure know how to start a game...
But don`t know how to see it out...
Post Edited (Wed 19 Jun 15:43)
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 19 Jun 14:38
A draw could be a good result here. It could see the team finishing 3rd in this group ending up with only 1 or 2 points.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 19 Jun 18:41
The Germans seem to be very efficient.
2-0 up on Hungary currently
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 19 Jun 19:54
And now to the main event....
Scotland Vs Switzerland.
I`m not going to predict this one.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Thu 20 Jun 14:47
Slovenia Vs Serbia on now.
0-0 currently at half time.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Thu 20 Jun 16:55
Denmark Vs England on now.
Bbc1.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 20 Jun 17:21
Spawny English goal, full back needs shot!
Post Edited (Thu 20 Jun 17:21)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Jun 20:01
Spain v Italy looks tasty so will probably end 0-0!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Jun 20:17
No zip-up blousons for the Italian backroom staff; class!
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 20 Jun 20:52
Yamal and Williams are like a poor man`s O`Brien and Hammill.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Jun 21:15
Yet another o.g. The risk of playing a defensive game.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 20 Jun 23:31
I think the Spanish just forced them back, wee eck? They were impressive and could go all the way ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Thu 20 Jun 23:31)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 21 Jun 00:23
Maybe, Raymie. Italy managed to get farther up the field after the goal but they didn`t really threaten.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 21 Jun 05:25
Spain were miles ahead of Italy and should have won far more convincingly. All they`re missing is a penalty box predator.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Fri 21 Jun 09:29
To be fair , the Italian keeper had a pretty good game.
Without him it would have been more.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Fri 21 Jun 09:32
Next up , Slovakia Vs Ukraine on beeb 1 I think .
I`m going for a Ukrainian win.
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Post Edited (Fri 21 Jun 09:32)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 21 Jun 16:10
If Belgium beat Romania later then all 4 teams will be on 3 points going into the final game. Could be an exciting last round of games in that group!
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Fri 21 Jun 16:58
Quote:
Jeffery, Fri 21 Jun 16:10
If Belgium beat Romania later then all 4 teams will be on 3 points going into the final game. Could be an exciting last round of games in that group!
So they could all finish up with 4 points. The team that finishes bottom on GD would go out, while a team with 3 points in another group could go through.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Fri 21 Jun 19:53
Looking forward to this one ....
Netherlands Vs France
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 21 Jun 21:02
Quote:
widtink, Fri 21 Jun 19:53
Looking forward to this one ....
Netherlands Vs France
Been awful quality
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Fri 21 Jun 21:26
It looks like 2 teams that are happy with a draw so aren’t pushing too much. A goal will change it.
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Topic Originator: USMac
Date: Fri 21 Jun 21:41
French dodged a bullet there with the disallowed goal.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Fri 21 Jun 21:47
That France strip is an all-timer
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 21 Jun 22:45
Enjoyed Poland and Austria. A good game
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Fri 21 Jun 23:03
Quote:
Dave_1885, Fri 21 Jun 21:02
Quote:
widtink, Fri 21 Jun 19:53
Looking forward to this one ....
Netherlands Vs France
Been awful quality
Yeah was a bit of a let down.
I don`t agree with the goal being disallowed but hey ho 🙂
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 22 Jun 15:09
Quote:
widtink, Fri 21 Jun 23:03
Quote:
Dave_1885, Fri 21 Jun 21:02
Quote:
widtink, Fri 21 Jun 19:53
Looking forward to this one ....
Netherlands Vs France
Been awful quality
Yeah was a bit of a let down.
I don`t agree with the goal being disallowed but hey ho 🙂
Tbf alot of these games with the stars on show usually does come to a very nervy game as both teams have world class quality and top top players
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 22 Jun 16:16
A draw tomorrow would be enough for Scotland to qualify, if:
Spain beat Albania
Italy beat Croatia
Turkey beat Czechia
Portugal beat Georgia
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
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Topic Originator: USMac
Date: Sat 22 Jun 20:53
First half of Belgium v Romania has been excellent. I don’t know if Belgium can play any better.
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sun 23 Jun 17:50
Watching videos of Dutch fans in streets doing their dance before game s unbelievable support
Had me thinking let see the Tartan Army doing the Slosh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Sun 23 Jun 18:26
Scotland Vs Hungary on BBB 1 tonight. same time as Switzerland vs Germany on beeb 2.
I will not predict the Scotland match just incase I jinx it.
I think Germany should be able to see off Switzerland comfortably, but , they might rest a lot of players so you never know.
Switzerland are no mugs .
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Jun 18:53
McKenna for Tierney is the only change from the Switzerland game.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sun 23 Jun 19:14
Shearer ! Come on BBC you can do better than that for Scotland`s biggest game for years
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Sun 23 Jun 19:40
Quote:
Par, Sun 23 Jun 19:14
Shearer ! Come on BBC you can do better than that for Scotland`s biggest game for years
I did wonder what was going on when I seen he was part of the pundit panel.
Great player in his day and all that , but come on .
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sun 23 Jun 19:45
Not there, but sounds like EEP is boucing...
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Sun 23 Jun 20:18
No they’re not! (German goal disallowed)
Post Edited (Sun 23 Jun 20:22)
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sun 23 Jun 20:37
1-0 Swiss now...
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sun 23 Jun 20:41
I just don`t see what Adams gives us that Shankland doesn`t...
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sun 23 Jun 20:48
The forward players never try to take on their man or pass it forward. Always negative.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 23 Jun 20:51
Please don`t wait till we fall behind before having a go..
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 23 Jun 20:51
We simply lack anything close to being a truly top class player in the front six positions. No shame in that but it does limit us greatly.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 23 Jun 20:54
Quote:
d3monstrate, Sun 23 Jun 20:41
I just don`t see what Adams gives us that Shankland doesn`t...
Adams has been top class first half. A level above Shankland.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sun 23 Jun 20:58
Did the Scotland players not realise that was an indirect free kick? Lucky to get away with that.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 23 Jun 21:01
Torpor-inducing...... 🫤
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 23 Jun 21:06
A total lack of urgency, it is so frustrating.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sun 23 Jun 21:23
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A total lack of urgency, it is so frustrating.
This is about to become end to end as both teams need a goal. Best to get the fastest players on at the front end of the pitch
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:03
Not winning that game is completely down to the manager team selection.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:04
Another hard watch from us, better team won
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:04
Got what we deserved.
In a match we had to win we were fannying about passing it to the side and back then only made a concerted effort to actually win the game in the last 15 minutes.
Our best chance of progressing out a group since needing a goal v 10-man Uruguay and we a scared to go for it.
I`m sure many of us saw the outcome from miles out.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:07
Get exactly what we deserved there. Hungary there for the taking. Shankland did more in fifteen minutes than Adams did in the best part of three games.
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Topic Originator: par-ticular
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:08
Well thank Fk that’s over ! Couldn’t score in the proverbial.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:09
It`s easier to do more though when you get players up and around you in support.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:11
What we deserved? I think we deserved a penalty.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:13
Im like others why did Clarke not shake it up just after half time , no point in being loyal to players , we need our best players on the pitch !
It`s probably for the best we haven`t won and went through to the next stage because it would probably be another thumping !
Doesn`t stop me from being pi55ed off though as that Hungary team were there for the taking ! I am putting down to Clarke though , his team selection was negative
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:14
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar like
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:11
What we deserved? I think we deserved a penalty.
For what?
Running through on goal and falling over?
I like Leanne Crichton, she is our best commentator but she had the tartan tinted specs on when calling that one.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:14
The refereeing has been pretty good in this tournament but most refs would have given that penalty I think.
Steve Clarke is ultra-cautious and it was his undoing tonight.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:17
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar like
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:11
What we deserved? I think we deserved a penalty.
For what?
Running through on goal and falling over?
I like Leanne Crichton, she is our best commentator but she had the tartan tinted specs on when calling that one.
Yes, falling over after being kneed in the calf.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:18
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Sun 23 Jun 22:14
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar like
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:11
What we deserved? I think we deserved a penalty.
For what?
Running through on goal and falling over?
I like Leanne Crichton, she is our best commentator but she had the tartan tinted specs on when calling that one.
Na. It`s definitely a penalty.
We deserved nothing though
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:18
That was a pen 99 times outta 100. Very unlucky,
but the Hungary tactics of break us down, bet you can`t! were spot on.
It was like watching the pars. A total lack of ideas going forward.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:18
Disappointing but the better team won I think. Lots of effort but we lacked that quality in the final 3rd of the pitch. Reminded me of a few of our games this season. Possession is great if you do something with it
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:21
Looked half a yard offside at first glance anyway outwith the challenge on Armstrong, play went on for a fair bit after it untill the ball went dead. Didn`t see a decent replay of the pass, only the tackle.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:25
Why didn`t the flag go up then?
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:25
Can`t win games in tournament football with Clarke. He`s far too cautious, not taking off Adams at half time or at least changing the system was criminal
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:26
I think stripped of 4 or 5 of our best players we`re just not good enough. Yes, Clarke is pragmatic, bordering on ultra-cautious but he got us to a goal away from the last 16.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:33
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DBA, Sun 23 Jun 20:54
Quote:
d3monstrate, Sun 23 Jun 20:41
I just don`t see what Adams gives us that Shankland doesn`t...
Adams has been top class first half. A level above Shankland.
April 1st is well past.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:37
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sun 23 Jun 22:17
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar like
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:11
What we deserved? I think we deserved a penalty.
For what?
Running through on goal and falling over?
I like Leanne Crichton, she is our best commentator but she had the tartan tinted specs on when calling that one.
Yes, falling over after being kneed in the calf.
Armstrong slowed down and waited on the contact.Never a penalty for me.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:41
Players slow down and `wait for contact` all the time and win fouls. Steve Clarke has just mentioned that the ref is Argentinian which seems odd in a European tournament.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:44
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 23 Jun 22:41
Players slow down and `wait for contact` all the time and win fouls. Steve Clarke has just mentioned that the ref is Argentinian which seems odd in a European tournament.
You would be raging if that was given against you.It wasn`t a foul.If Armstrong showed a bit more belief he could have got a shot away as was the case with Morgan.2 chances fell to players who had just come on unfortunately.
Post Edited (Sun 23 Jun 22:45)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:50
FFS these days that`s a penalty all day long. Substitute Harry Kane for Armstrong and tell me that wouldn`t be given.
Ridiculous to say it`s anything other than a penalty.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:50
Yeah, I would have been raging at the defender for making such a reckless challenge.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:52
My honest opinion is that referees throughout the tournament have given free kicks for very soft contact and some very questionable yellow cards.
I felt a penalty would have been given in many games but Armstrong didn`t help his case in grabbing the defender.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:52
Well a ref in realtime and in slow motion from multiple angles said it wasn`t so while it still subjective it clearly isn`t `ridiculous` that it wasn`t given.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:53
So a knee in the calf isn`t a foul?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:55
I didn`t see a graphic to say that a check had been done on the Armstrong penalty claim.
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:57
FFS, anyone who says that wasn`t a penalty is at it !
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 23 Jun 22:58
It was a penalty all day long whether you think it was soft or not. Contact made in the box and knocked Armstrong down. Scotland should have slowed the game down and taken the draw but instead made a mistake in the dying seconds and got punished. Turned off before the analysis but assume it WAS onside as it looked borderline on first look. Definite case that the likes of Shankland should have started or been on earlier.
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:11
Can`t agree Jake. I said with 15 mins to go that I`d rather lose by going for the win than play out a draw. Unfortunately it turned out that way.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:12
They didn`t check for offside in the post-match analysis.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:13
Quote:
EastEndTales, Sun 23 Jun 23:10
Get to absolute fck if you`re clinging onto a flimsy pen claim. Negative approach killed us from the start
You OK hun?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:16
I mean even if we got the penalty we would probably passed it all the way back to Gunn anyway, just in case we shot wide and gave away a goal kick.
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:17
I don`t know why Armstrong didn`t just step in front of the defender rather than jump in front of him, maybe just enough for the ref. to not give it as Armstrongs feet were both of the ground at one point as the defender hit him.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:18
Definite penalty and a probably red card since Orban was already on a yellow.
The fact that we didn’t deserve it is irrelevant.
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:26
I don`t think it was a penalty. Yes, there`s a wee clip on the back of the leg, but there`s also a clear foul the other way as well with the jersey pull. What`s the ref meant to do, give a Scotland penalty and a Hungary free kick at the same time? I wouldn`t be happy if that was givein against me.
I`m also not as upset as Clarke as most seem to be. That`s a limited team, weakened severely by injuries. His aim was to stay in the game and, if we had to, push on when it opened up later in the game. I just don`t think we were quite good enough to threaten a decent team in those circumstances. Yes, maybe other options to adapt to injuries but I`m not convinced any of them would have been much better.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:32
A wee clip? He knees him in the calf!
Did we deserve anything from the game? No.
Was it a foul in the box? Yes.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:46
Seeing it again in real time, Armstrong could easily be offside, it would be an automated call that one. Ref could have waved play on with keeper and that would be the end of it, no flag, no free kick, no penalty 🤷🏻♂️ either way, we werent good enough for the 100 minutes.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Sun 23 Jun 23:48
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 23 Jun 23:13
Quote:
EastEndTales, Sun 23 Jun 23:10
Get to absolute fck if you`re clinging onto a flimsy pen claim. Negative approach killed us from the start
You OK hun?
No. No actually I`m not. I`m upset by our performance and venting somewhat. Best bit of the whole game was the graciousness of the Hungarian fans all around me showing incredible hospitality. More so than anyone gets on here for daring to show emotion.
I`ll be deleting my account on here soon enough, won`t have to worry about anyone giving a fck properly about the important issues soon and back to petty squabbles like before.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 24 Jun 06:19
The pen was in the "I`ve seen them given" category. Scotland`s performance was hugely disappointing for all but the last 15 mins. I feel sorry for the Tartan Army. Their powerful rendition of "Flower of Scotland" gave me goose pimples. The fans deserved better - much better.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 24 Jun 06:40
I don`t think anyone is saying we should have went all guns blazing and that we have a superb squad but the same could be said about Albania and Georgia and at least they had a go. We could have used the passion of the crowd and the anthems to make fast starts v Switzerland and Hungary, but instead tried to play a Guardiola/Hughes/McPake pass it about the back with zero movement style (which nobody else at the tournament except maybe England have been playing). I`m not sure if McGregor passed the ball forward once all night? And our crossing both from open play and set pieces was abysmal all night. The few times we did get in good positions the decision making was all wrong, as highlighted by two incidents near the end, one on the left where Armstrong got in a bit of a muddle and the other on the right where after Hanley`s shot was saved, Christie just chipped it into the keepers arms. Feel sorry for the guys who have spent their savings on going over there to see what, 3 shots on target across 3 games? Lowest cG, lowest shots on target, lowest presses one in the opponents half I`m sure I read. What`s the point in qualifying for a major tournament if you`re going to stink the place out like thst?
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Mon 24 Jun 07:13
Timid and timidity crop up a lot in the sports pages this morning.
Also, I’ve heard of walking football but never actually seen any before!
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 24 Jun 07:47
Out with a whimper
I still go back to playing Netherlands or France as a friendly when we were riding on the crest of a wave with wins and momentum… got thumped and momentum lost… not saying that was the cause but it was certainly the start of the rut
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 24 Jun 07:58
Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 24 Jun 06:40
I don`t think anyone is saying we should have went all guns blazing and that we have a superb squad but the same could be said about Albania and Georgia and at least they had a go. We could have used the passion of the crowd and the anthems to make fast starts v Switzerland and Hungary, but instead tried to play a Guardiola/Hughes/McPake pass it about the back with zero movement style (which nobody else at the tournament except maybe England have been playing). I`m not sure if McGregor passed the ball forward once all night? And our crossing both from open play and set pieces was abysmal all night. The few times we did get in good positions the decision making was all wrong, as highlighted by two incidents near the end, one on the left where Armstrong got in a bit of a muddle and the other on the right where after Hanley`s shot was saved, Christie just chipped it into the keepers arms. Feel sorry for the guys who have spent their savings on going over there to see what, 3 shots on target across 3 games? Lowest cG, lowest shots on target, lowest presses one in the opponents half I`m sure I read. What`s the point in qualifying for a major tournament if you`re going to stink the place out like thst?
Pretty much my thoughts too
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Mon 24 Jun 12:51
Listening to Steven Conroy on BBC radio Scotland just now and he is also of the view that it wasn`t a penalty.
Post Edited (Mon 24 Jun 12:52)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 24 Jun 12:59
On what grounds?
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Mon 24 Jun 13:02
On the grounds that Armstrong initiated the contact.He was lamenting the fact that Armstrong wasn`t more positive and didn`t get a strike away.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 24 Jun 13:04
Maybe he was inhibited by the defender kneeing him in the calf!
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Mon 24 Jun 13:05
Pat Nevin also didn`t think it was one.It seems to have spilt the room so maybe doesn`t fall into the clear and obvious mistake category?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 24 Jun 13:29
I didn`t see Pat Nevin`s comments but he must know something about rough treatment from defenders so his view has to be respected. I still think there`s a difference in standards between what refs decide is a foul outside and inside the box. Outside the box any physical contact seems to be penalised.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Mon 24 Jun 13:35
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 24 Jun 13:29
I didn`t see Pat Nevin`s comments but he must know something about rough treatment from defenders so his view has to be respected. I still think there`s a difference in standards between what refs decide is a foul outside and inside the box. Outside the box any physical contact seems to be penalised.
I agree with you there and I`ve definitely seen softer penalties given too. I was just a bit more annoyed that Armstrong seemed to dally rather than getting a shot away, which I think he could have done comfortably if he was more positive rather than waiting on the contact.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Mon 24 Jun 13:43
Can almost guarantee that if it was Harry Kane, a penalty would`ve been given since he has made a career of "winning" and scoring penalties in the exact same way...
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 24 Jun 13:54
Quote:
d3monstrate, Mon 24 Jun 13:43
Can almost guarantee that if it was Harry Kane, a penalty would`ve been given since he has made a career of "winning" and scoring penalties in the exact same way...
100%.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Mon 24 Jun 19:36
Tonight`s offerings are.Croatia Vs Italy on bbc1 and Albania Vs Spain on bbc2.
I`m going fir wins by Italy and Spain.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Mon 24 Jun 20:11
I`d say 80% of the free kicks that Harry Kane gets are from this.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 24 Jun 21:14
Oooift Croatia
Italy save pen then Croatia score !
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 24 Jun 21:28
Looked to me like he jumped in front of the defender to force contact so didn’t think it was one myself
Anyway, penalty or not doesn’t excuse what was offered by Scotland and we didn’t deserve to go through based on how we played…
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 24 Jun 21:57
1-1 cracking goal by Italy 97th minute
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 24 Jun 22:01
At least we know how Croatia feel.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Mon 24 Jun 22:01
Really poor game management from Croatia, plenty chances to take the ball in the corner, but instead played wayward passes
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Mon 24 Jun 22:02
So a draw wouldn’t have been good enough for Scotland last night.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Tue 25 Jun 01:37
Quote:
Tad Allagash, Mon 24 Jun 22:02
So a draw wouldn’t have been good enough for Scotland last night.
Correct. So we`re not having to add yet another innovative way of failing to qualify, we`ve opted for the traditional way of just not being good enough.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Tue 25 Jun 12:01
Quote:
Stanza, Tue 25 Jun 01:37
Quote:
Tad Allagash, Mon 24 Jun 22:02
So a draw wouldn’t have been good enough for Scotland last night.
Correct. So we`re not having to add yet another innovative way of failing to qualify, we`ve opted for the traditional way of just not being good enough.
It would have still been on. We would have needed two groups with worse thirds.
Group C
Denmark beat Serbia.
England beat Slovenia by enough.
That would leave Slovenia in third with 2 points and a worse goal difference.
Group F
Czechs and Georgians both on 1 point.
It would just have needed Turkey and Portugal to beat them.
All academic and glad England won`t have the pleasure of knocking us out.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Tue 25 Jun 12:46
Yeah, right enough parsfan - I forgot Slovenia’s goal difference could get worse. So it’s Croatia now that need England to beat Slovenia by at least 3.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 25 Jun 17:08
Netherlands 0-1 Austria; another o.g.!
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Tue 25 Jun 17:13
You can’t get pumped in one game, scrape two draws with virtually no shots and expect to get through
You should get through on merit and by winning games, and no one would deserve to progress in the above scenario
I’m guessing only the pub landlords will be disappointed that we’re out, certainly not those wanting to watch exciting attacking football
Post Edited (Tue 25 Jun 17:27)
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Tue 25 Jun 20:15
Results so far tonight mean France Spain,Germany and Portugal on the opposite side of the draw than England! 🤦♂️
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Tue 25 Jun 20:48
England already through but not exactly looking like a world beating side Vs Slovenia.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 25 Jun 21:26
Quote:
widtink, Tue 25 Jun 20:48
England already through but not exactly looking like a world beating side Vs Slovenia.
Snorefest!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 25 Jun 21:55
Two wins in 8 matches. Not the greatest record so far for England.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 25 Jun 21:57
England always seem to get the luck of the draw and the way the draw has opened up for them is unbelievable.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 25 Jun 21:59
What a fun group that`s turned out to be; 7 goals in 6 games!
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Topic Originator: USMac
Date: Tue 25 Jun 22:00
That was 2 hours I wasted. Both Group C games were poor.
If England can’t score against Slovenia ….
All Denmark had to do was score one goal to get to the bottom side of the knockout draw. I would have thought that they try harder on the counter as the game opened up,
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 26 Jun 09:30
Given the way the draw has opened up England should be getting to the final - they will be favourites in every game they play until then..
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 26 Jun 12:12
From X:
“UEFA have officially confirmed that Denmark finished ahead of Slovenia in Group C because of a yellow card shown to Slovenia assistant coach Milivoje Novaković.
Denmark and Slovenia finished level on points, goal difference, goals scored and yellow cards shown to players.”
😳
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 26 Jun 18:14
Ukraine 0 Belgium 0 currently on BBC 1
Decent game.
Slovakia 1 Romania 1 also on bbc2.
Georgia Vs Portugal on later on STV
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Post Edited (Wed 26 Jun 18:15)
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Topic Originator: USMac
Date: Wed 26 Jun 19:07
Ukraine is going home with 4 pts. They went for it at the end against Belgium and created some good chances. The shot from the corner kick at waist level to the near post that almost went in was something else.
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Wed 26 Jun 19:20
Standard has been awful in the 3rd round matches in particular.
Belgium wasting time against Ukraine to play France in the next round summed up the attitude of many players/teams.
Looks like England will now get to the final as surely they can`t continually be so pihs ?🤦♂️
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Topic Originator: USMac
Date: Wed 26 Jun 19:31
The other 5 top seeds are all in the top half of the draw. Surely, then, England should coast to the final? They’ll be lucky to get past the Dutch, assuming that Group F doesn’t have a third-placed team go through.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 26 Jun 21:15
Mon Georgia!
Penalty
Goalllllllll
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Wed 26 Jun 21:16
Georgia showing why you should just get the ball forward...
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 26 Jun 21:49
It`s the hope that kills you Hungary
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 26 Jun 21:55
Well done to Georgia! Qualified for the ko rounds first time ever
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 26 Jun 21:55
Clarkes got to go now - Georgias first ever major tourn and get out the group 😂
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Wed 26 Jun 21:56
Well done Georgia, well deserved.
Hope Steve Clarke was watching as that’s how you approach must win games or infact any game.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Wed 26 Jun 21:59
Yip. One of a few teams that did not look any better than Scotland a year ago. All of them have acquitted themselves well…..except us….
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Wed 26 Jun 22:13
Worked out well for Georgia with Portugal resting half their team.
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Topic Originator: PansPar
Date: Wed 26 Jun 22:23
Well done Georgia, showing us how it should be done.
Ukraine are going home with 4 points, while Slovenia progress to the last 16 with 3 points.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 26 Jun 22:24
And England avoid the Dutch and will play Slovakia.
Looks they have a straightforward run to the final. I`ll be stunned if they don`t make it.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 26 Jun 22:39
I can see why they extended the squads to 26 having watched that Czech Rep v Turkey match. I think there were 16 yellow cards and 2 red cards issued. I don`t know how many Turks will be suspended for the next game.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 26 Jun 22:42
Quote:
parathletic, Wed 26 Jun 22:13
Worked out well for Georgia with Portugal resting half their team.
It wasn’t exactly a team short of talent that started the game…..
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 26 Jun 23:20
Was disappointed with Ronaldo
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 26 Jun 23:22
Whoever England meet in the final will be punch drunk after slogging their way through all the heavyweights on that side of the draw. Steel sharpens steel though so it could work against them having an easier route to Berlin.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Thu 27 Jun 12:46
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 26 Jun 22:42
Quote:
parathletic, Wed 26 Jun 22:13
Worked out well for Georgia with Portugal resting half their team.
It wasn’t exactly a team short of talent that started the game…..
True, but if they hadn`t already won the group and needed a result they could have beaten them comfortably, imo.Georgia conceded 50 shots against the Czechs and Turks and were fortunate to have a point on the board after being completely outplayed in both.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 27 Jun 13:06
So would have Scotland gone through with a win/draw against Hungary?
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Thu 27 Jun 13:12
LochgellyAlbert wrote:
> So would have Scotland gone through with a win/draw against
> Hungary?
Win - yes. We’d be playing Portugal I think.
Draw - no.
Post Edited (Thu 27 Jun 13:22)
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Fri 28 Jun 00:55
Ok so going to close this thread and open a new one as this one is getting a bit long.
It`ll be Euro 2024 thread pt2.
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