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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 14:02
Morton v Hamilton game is off. A chance to close the points gap.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 16:45)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 14:04
KRH in for Cooper otherwise, as you were
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 14:04)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 4 Jan 14:08
Oluwayemi
Comrie
Ngwenya
Benedictus
Hamilton
Otoo
Ritchie-Hosler
Todd
McCann
Fogarty
Kane
[U]Subs
MEHMET (GK), CHALMERS, FISHER, WOTHERSPOON, CLAY, SUTHERLAND, YOUNG, COOPER, MEBUDE
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 14:09
Wonder if it will be a diamond again? Plenty of different shapes we can use with those players.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 14:14
Great start.
Lewis McCann with the goal.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 15:05)
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:05
Yassssss
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:05
1 nill pars. Tremendous finish by McCann.
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Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:05
Beautiful goal pars š
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:06
Spoke too soon. 1-1
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:06
Ach FFFFFFS
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:07
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 4 Jan 14:14
Great start.
Lewis McCann with the goal.
Some shout 46 minutes before KO
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Topic Originator: Beeches Par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:07
Lead did not last long!
David G McLean
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Topic Originator: NiallDAFC
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:07
Ngwenya and Toby both have to do better there. Shocking goal to concede so soon after taking the lead
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:08
Defense caught out badly there.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:08
Quote:
Westies squint kicks, Sat 4 Jan 15:07
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 4 Jan 14:14
Great start.
Lewis McCann with the goal.
Some shout 46 minutes before KO
Iāve cleaned up at the bookies š
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:09
Quote:
NiallDAFC, Sat 4 Jan 15:07
Ngwenya and Toby both have to do better there. Shocking goal to concede so soon after taking the lead
Agree. Questionable defending and GK should be doing better.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:10
That keeper is starting to become another liability between the sticks.
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 15:11)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:14
Ah couldnt hold on for even 3 minutes! Fancy weāll need another goal to get anything today.
McCann only needs one more goal to equal his best return in a championship season.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:17
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 4 Jan 15:14
Ah couldnt hold on for even 3 minutes! Fancy weāll need another goal to get anything today.
McCann only needs one more goal to equal his best return in a championship season.
Hopefully he gets it and shuts you up
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:18
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 4 Jan 15:14
Ah couldnt hold on for even 3 minutes! Fancy weāll need another goal to get anything today.
McCann only needs one more goal to equal his best return in a championship season.
Ffs give it a rest min.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:21
Any sightings of Tidser?
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Topic Originator: Kba990309
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:25
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Keith allan
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 15:26)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:29
Barry Robson off to a cracking start so far...
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:35
Boom
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:37
So far so good.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:38
5 goals in 1.5 games since we changed the manager. Coincidence?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:39
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 4 Jan 15:38
5 goals in 1.5 games since we changed the manager. Coincidence?
Nope, McPake`s heart wasn`t in it and it showed.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:39
Was thinking that raymie, scoring for fun!
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:40
But 4 conceded. Need to get the balance right.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:40
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 4 Jan 15:38
5 goals in 1.5 games since we changed the manager. Coincidence?
Amazing what a simple change of tactics can do Raymie.......
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:47
Make that 6 goals š„
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: manic preacher
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:49
The score says it all
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:51
Handbrake has been released.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:51
What was the keeper booked for?
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Topic Originator: AveragePar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:51
Wow.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:51
Best weāve played this season, bar the hiccup for the equaliser, we could have scored a couple more.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:51
Seems like the manager was the problem.
Is it time to give these players a break and stop abusing them.
The last two games will give them a much needed confidence boost. Hopefully, we can boost it more with our reaction.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:52
Quote:
pars no1, Sat 4 Jan 15:51
What was the keeper booked for?
ā Time wasting ā
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:52
Quote:
pars no1, Sat 4 Jan 15:51
What was the keeper booked for?
Best first half I`ve seen for a while. Just shows you McPake was shocking with his tactics.
Positive today, 2 strikers and coming to try and win the game.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:53
Best half of football in I donāt know how long. Outstanding to a man.
Who said the performances werenāt down to McPake??
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:53
Quote:
pars no1, Sat 4 Jan 15:51
What was the keeper booked for?
Looked like non existent time wasting
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:53
Forget Tidser, John McGlaughin knows what he is doing !!!
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:54
Itās only HTā¦ā¦.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:54
Will take the 3-3 draw š
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:55
Quote:
desparado, Sat 4 Jan 15:54
Itās only HTā¦ā¦.
Of course it is, but thatās the best 45 mins away from home for donkeys.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:55
What a half !
We are going at them! Attacking them!
Clear as day Mcpake was the problem! Big respect for John for getting the players up for this! New manager had a big job on his hands because of the positions we find ourself in!
Keep it up guys !!
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:55
Canny see them being as bad in the 2nd half but we are more than capable of scoring a 4th if we keep this going. Hammy needs to be careful.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:56
Quote:
PARrot, Sat 4 Jan 15:51
Seems like the manager was the problem.
Is it time to give these players a break and stop abusing them.
The last two games will give them a much needed confidence boost. Hopefully, we can boost it more with our reaction.
It was the problem.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:56
Yes desperado ā¦. Itās only HT.
However, I think people are trying to highlight that if this team was set up properly, there was goals and positive performances to be had.
Mcpake n McKay way to naive and having two defenders at the helm was never gonna give you attractive football.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:56
Lanzarote John? If he can keep this up, weāll fly him round the world
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:57
I`ve been out the loop due to work, bearing in mind I`ve seen us lose many a lead at Firhill how are we playing/Lining up differently under John McLaughlan than McPake?
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:58
Fantastic 1st half performance.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:00
No tempting fate or commentators curse nonsense please. There is a whole other half to go.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:01
Quote:
desparado, Sat 4 Jan 15:54
Itās only HTā¦ā¦.
True. Our first half performance was excellent. Let`s see this through to the end Pars
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:02
Best 45 minutes of the season so far. Blow the final whistle now.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:07
One in the eye for those that have written the players off when clearly the manager and the tactics were dragging some of them down. Hopefully maintain the score and push on with whoever is at the helm next.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:15
Only issue this half is us parking the bus instead of setting up to kill them off on the breakaway. Too many bodies behind the ball for my liking.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:18
Best result this season if we can pull it off. Away win was long overdue and no coincidence itās the first away game where mcpake hasnāt been in charge.
Sets it up nicely for next sat when tidser is in charge and demoralises airdrie and brings Hamilton and Morton back into view.
Couldnāt have asked for more so far.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:29
Would be absolutely gutted to see Tidser in place after this performance.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:29
Its what makes me think the announcement was left until next week...
Coming in for a tough fixture away to a team unbeaten at home in the league this season, would be a tough ask. A poor result makes some think things haven`t changed...
However, announce it on the run up to a home game might add a few more bums on seats since quite a few have been waiting to see the back of McPake, so more money coming in...
Add in if they can pull this result off, then even better...
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:31
Whoās to say Tidser hasnāt had a say in tactics and formation today?
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:32
Good to see us scoring goals from open play. It`s been a while since we have scored 3 goals away from home no matter the final result
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:33
We are managing the game well, this half. Itās important not to give them any encouragement.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:43
Brilliant
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:43
4-1 here, happy as a sandboy. Best performance for a decade.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:44
Great turn and cross from McCann
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:44
Itās nice when the sub scores right away.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:45
Outrageous Pars keep it going.
ā.........it aināt over till the Pars score!ā
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:45
Excellent stuff, I`ll be honest I didn`t see this result coming.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:45
Unbelievable... Get the buckets out next week, at least a quid from every supporter will see John get more than a decent holiday!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:45
With a good goal and an assistant to his credit today, it would be nice to see McCann get a compliment from his main detractor today.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:46
Chuffin Nora
āBuffyās Buns are the finest in Fifeā, J. Spence 2019ā
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:47
Brilliant assist from Lewis McCann
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: jojo
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:47
Letās start a go fund me for John and his wife for a world cruise
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:50
Outrageous result and proves we have a squad capable of surviving. I just hope this can be the start of something. It proves McPake should have been away ages ago. 7 goals in two goals against two of the better teams in the league is amazing. I hope the board reward McLaughlan with a decent holiday. In fact, why not give him the job?!
Absolutely buzzing with this!
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:50
Maybe we`ve found a manager within the club without even realising it. He`s certainly getting a tune out of this battered and dented Fender.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:51
Quote:
PARrot, Sat 4 Jan 16:45
With a good goal and an assistant to his credit today, it would be nice to see McCann get a compliment from his main detractor today.
I think Lewis McCann`s potential is there. I did think he has 10 or 12 goals in him this season. I`d like to see him commit more sometimes to get that 1/2 yard on a defender. He is a deceptive player reminds me of Mick Leonard. If he can work on timing his runs and headers he has real potential as a goalscorer. It`s not commitment he lacks.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:51
Fantastic performance . Come on you Pars.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:52
Fair play Pars, keep it going
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:52
Itās definately a day for those who think heās got what it takes parrot. One swallow doesnāt make a summer as Iām sure youāll know.
Iām more than happy to give you that heās been very good and very effective today.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:52
Cracking result and by all accounts performance.
Well done boys and Lanzarote John
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:52
We want 5 ( five ) !
āBuffyās Buns are the finest in Fifeā, J. Spence 2019ā
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:54
Iām not having a dig here and I am genuinely interested.
Berkey and Cammy have consistently banged the drum about our team being full of players not up to championship level.
Iāve maintained that a better manager could get more out of them.
After two games, four points and seven goals, are you guys willing to change your stance?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:54
Great result. Who knew taking shots and attacking could pay off? Onwards.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:55
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend like
Date: Sat 4 Jan 15:55
Quote:
desparado, Sat 4 Jan 15:54
Itās only HTā¦ā¦.
Of course it is, but thatās the best 45 mins away from home for donkeys.
Itās full time now though
Players should get a right boost from this result. Going home on a Sat evening with a smile on their faces, which has not been the case most of the time.
Wasnāt there but it sounds like we played very well.
Looking forward to next now. Have not said that in a whileā¦
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:55
Fantastic McLaughlin and the players, McPake evidently the problem. The only question is why he wasn`t away months ago. Our best performance since coming back up?
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:56
First away win?
āBuffyās Buns are the finest in Fifeā, J. Spence 2019ā
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:57
Makes you wonder if the Hamilton home game bought McPake a stay of execution. Should have been long gone before then and we`d have had a better chance against Raith and Morton.
Team has heen flat for months and nice to see the shackles off rather than setting up not to get beat.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:57
could and should have been 6 easy. What a turnaround.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:58
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 4 Jan 16:54
Iām not having a dig here and I am genuinely interested.
Berkey and Cammy have consistently banged the drum about our team being full of players not up to championship level.
Iāve maintained that a better manager could get more out of them.
After two games, four points and seven goals, are you guys willing to change your stance?
I`m not there is half a team ,you know who they are ,that despite results till the end of the season should be gone at the end of the season
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 4 Jan 16:59
Trying to impress the new manager no doubt. Good on them. Fired up the fans and brought a smile back to everyone.
Hope they enjoy their pizzas on the way hame.
āBuffyās Buns are the finest in Fifeā, J. Spence 2019ā
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:00
Whatever arrangement is in place for the coaching and management of our team appear to be working and continuing to improve at an exponential rate.
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Topic Originator: Ianoappar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:02
Great result and credit to the players and John McGlaughlan,just shows what can be achieved when you get someone in charge that takes the shackles off.
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Topic Originator: Level par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:02
Well played Pars
After weeks / months of players regressing under McPake it comes as no surprise now heās gone that we have players capable of competing with and beating the best teams in this league.
Big test next week against an on fire Ayr Utd but letās enjoy tonight first.
Come on Pars.
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Topic Originator: AndyBird
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:03
7 goals in 2 games. Completely different footballing philosophy from McPake.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:05
It`s all ifs and buts, whose to say things wouldve changed then? Even McPake was capable of the odd good performance, granted not away from home...
Assuming the announcement is coming this week of the new management team, its sets a good platform for them to come in, let John get away on his holiday unbeaten as manager of DAFC...
Let`s enjoy the next few days, get some positivity on the run up to next week and get a good crowd!
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:05
Fantastic result. A defeat would have seen us stranded in the playoff position. Still so much to do to get us to safety but this fills me with confidence we can finally string a few results together in the league this season.
Keeping Kane fit is so important.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:06
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 4 Jan 16:52
Itās definately a day for those who think heās got what it takes parrot. One swallow doesnāt make a summer as Iām sure youāll know.
Iām more than happy to give you that heās been very good and very effective today.
I think he might appreciate that.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:11
This isn`t just a difference with shackles coming off on a game day with tactics and performance levels
This is a total change within training ideas and working on players strengths rather than sticking to a rigid stubborn training plan
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:14
Great win that takes us back to within 2pts off safety. More importantly it was 2 hard games that realistically we werenāt getting anything out off. We should have no fear off Ayr next week. Letās keep the momentum going & get behind the team.
Well played the Pars & John McGlaughlan!
ā.........it aināt over till the Pars score!ā
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Topic Originator: Fethiyespar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:15
Quote:
alwaysaPar, Sat 4 Jan 17:11
This isn`t just a difference with shackles coming off on a game day with tactics and performance levels
This is a total change within training ideas and working on players strengths rather than sticking to a rigid stubborn training plan
If that`s the case, forget Tidser.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:17
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Fethiyespar, Sat 4 Jan 17:15
Quote:
alwaysaPar, Sat 4 Jan 17:11
This isn`t just a difference with shackles coming off on a game day with tactics and performance levels
This is a total change within training ideas and working on players strengths rather than sticking to a rigid stubborn training plan
If that`s the case, forget Tidser.
Because ........ ?
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:29
Raymie itās been a positive change already since mcpake left but Iād need more than 2 games to be convinced. Letās see where we are after the next 3 games.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:37
will be cracker next week v ayr
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: NikNakPar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:49
Brilliant performance today. Pass marks all round but special mention to McCann today he was superb
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:50
oUr plAYerS aReNT cHAmpiOnsHiP StaNdArD
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:52
That was certainly a big confidence booster and the lads were great in attack, and apart from their goal, great in defence too. We did get a break or two at vital times in the game. Their talisman, Brian Graham, missed a snip of a header that might have brought it back to 3-2, with Thistle well on top. Looking at the table, we still have a mountain to climb but these players, whom many had written off, along with James McPake, showed today what they are capable of. But I wouldn`t be running away with any conclusions about the training or tactics just yet. After just two weeks that would be very premature.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 4 Jan 17:57
Next week will let us see where we are. However, our first away win against a team as dangerous as Thistle has to be positive.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:05
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 4 Jan 16:54
Iām not having a dig here and I am genuinely interested.
Berkey and Cammy have consistently banged the drum about our team being full of players not up to championship level.
Iāve maintained that a better manager could get more out of them.
After two games, four points and seven goals, are you guys willing to change your stance?
I agree that two games isn`t a huge number to base an opinion on, never mind an evaluation of the team`s ability, but it`s certainly a very encouraging start. If you throw in the games v Raith and Livingston, we have to conclude that this group of players are good enough to compete in this league and that for whatever reasons, James McPake wasn`t able to get the best out of his players, either individually or as a unit.
Berkey has already modified his opinion, even if he hasn`t completely held his hand up. Hopefully, Cammy and others will be along soon enough, to offer to go into stocks outside EEP before the next game. š
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:14
Even 4 games out of 20+ isn`t good enough. Yes, preparation and tactics have probably overshadowed it, but once the players can go a decent run, then those of us questioning the abilities of some of the players can start to think differently. Let`s just enjoy this week and look forward to next week for a change...
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:17
Quote:
GG Riva, Sat 4 Jan 18:05
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Raymie the Legend, Sat 4 Jan 16:54
Iām not having a dig here and I am genuinely interested.
Berkey and Cammy have consistently banged the drum about our team being full of players not up to championship level.
Iāve maintained that a better manager could get more out of them.
After two games, four points and seven goals, are you guys willing to change your stance?
I agree that two games isn`t a huge number to base an opinion on, never mind an evaluation of the team`s ability, but it`s certainly a very encouraging start. If you throw in the games v Raith and Livingston, we have to conclude that this group of players are good enough to compete in this league and that for whatever reasons, James McPake wasn`t able to get the best out of his players, either individually or as a unit.
Berkey has already modified his opinion, even if he hasn`t completely held his hand up. Hopefully, Cammy and others will be along soon enough, to offer to go into stocks outside EEP before the next game. š
Can those who defended Mcpake, go into the stocks as well , as we now have definitive proof , Mcpake was a nice guy ,but a rubbish manager .
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:19
Just home and wow, absolutely wowā¦.iāve not enjoyed a performance as much in years. We were absolutely fantastic, brushed Partick aside in the First Half, then sat in and bossed the Second Half and never looked in any danger of letting the lead slip. In fact, come the end, the score line probably flattered Thistle because that could have been a 7 or 8.
I have been a critic of his, but I thought Lewis McCann was exceptional today and what a beauty of a goal to kick start the day. It would be wrong to talk about individuals though, because this was a team performance, with fight and hunger that weāve definitely not seen this season.
Genuinely buzzing tonight, so proud of the players and it shows how good we are actually, when the players are set up to actually go for it.
You can see McLaughlin is a modest guy, embarrassed by the praise at the end, but he deserves every bit of itā¦.and more, and the players also deserve a lot of credit.
Proud to be The Pars š¾šŖ
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 18:32)
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:19
Did anyone think we looked unfit compared to Thistle?
Regardless, great 1st half performance with the ball, looked pretty solid and organised for the majority of the 2nd half, fantastic 4th goal on the break and seemed likely to add to it after that.
Fans were great too, ref absolutely hopeless despite it being an easy game to officiate.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 18:23)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:26
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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Sat 4 Jan 16:57
Makes you wonder if the Hamilton home game bought McPake a stay of execution. Should have been long gone before then and we`d have had a better chance against Raith and Morton.
Team has heen flat for months and nice to see the shackles off rather than setting up not to get beat.
There were about 3 or 4 times when you were thinking mcpake won`t see out the weekend and unfortunately he was still there.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:32
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 4 Jan 16:54
Iām not having a dig here and I am genuinely interested.
Berkey and Cammy have consistently banged the drum about our team being full of players not up to championship level.
Iāve maintained that a better manager could get more out of them.
After two games, four points and seven goals, are you guys willing to change your stance?
We are still second bottom of the table so I`m not changing my stance after 2 positive results.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:33
The reason why we didn`t score 6 or 7 was because Lewis McCann had run himself into the ground and when 2 gilt edged chances came to him late in the game, he just didn`t have the legs to stick the ball in the net. That`s no criticism of Lewis, it`s just the fact that he put so much into the game that he had nothing left.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:41
Lewis`s best game this season.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 18:59
"Did anyone think we looked unfit compared to Thistle?"
Not having a go but Partick have played twice on pudding pitches since we last played. I`d expect us to look a bit fresher.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:01
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sat 4 Jan 18:26
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TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Sat 4 Jan 16:57
Makes you wonder if the Hamilton home game bought McPake a stay of execution. Should have been long gone before then and we`d have had a better chance against Raith and Morton.
Team has heen flat for months and nice to see the shackles off rather than setting up not to get beat.
There were about 3 or 4 times when you were thinking mcpake won`t see out the weekend and unfortunately he was still there.
I canāt remember what game it was that I made my mind up but I think it was early November-ish. We beat Livi then lost the next 2. Couldnāt defend the performances anymore. Went to the Alloa game and honestly I would have sacked him after that as well. 0 effort from 90% of the squad.
Got pelters in here for saying it was shocking and calling out players for their performances. Letās be honest, McPakes out the door and Johnās isnāt doing anything special but seems to have the guys playing for each other again
COYP
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:03
Days like this is why I support the Pars. Cannot buy it. Get in there.
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:16
Without a doubt our best performance of the season, total contrast to our last away game in Greenock where there was no fight, poor passing & lack of passion and looked like a pub team.
IMO we were lucky against Falkirk but ground out a draw but today we won in style with a superb performance and well merited win that could easily have been by more.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:20
NMCmassive - I went to that Alloa game. Completely disagree
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Sat 04 Jan 19:23)
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:45
Great effort from the whole team today and the best we`ve played this season by roughly 26.2188 miles. We played well with the ball in the first half, had the better of the game and deserved the lead at half-time.
However, I`m just as excited about how well we did in the second half without the ball. We got through a long spell of heavy pressure and only gave them one chance the whole half. Absolutely miles away from where we`ve been for most of the season. We beat Airdrie 2-1 away last season in December and it was one of those great fighting wins where you feel really proud of your team. Today was the first time since then I`ve felt that way. Probably the best we`ve played in about 3 years.
Ultimately it was about simple things and players allowed to do the things that make them most effective. McCann was allowed to play aggressively and rough up his man, having had that suppressed by McPake for a long time. We used Matty Todd`s running power in the second half to get us up the park and relieve the pressure. And we defended as a team in the second half and didn`t allow too much space. We`ve been ridiculously easy to play through this season. And we didn`t try to overcomplicate things with excess passy-passy stuff on a heavy pitch.
It`s only one game and we need to put a few results together, but in isolation that was one fo the top Pars games in recent years. Well done to everyone for giving us that today. Plenty of them had good games today but it`s not even worth mentioning individuals. It was all about the team and I love it when I`m able to say that.
The ref was absolute murder today and it really did feel that we got very little from him. Our keeper getting booked for time wasting was an absolutely disgraceful decision among plenty of poor ones. But, we got a great win despite that, and it feels good. Much more to do to stay up, but we should enjoy this one.
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Topic Originator: k76
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:51
Subs today were made at the right moment, Otoo and Hamilton were tiring.
We actually had a midfield today.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:55
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sat 4 Jan 18:19
Did anyone think we looked unfit compared to Thistle?
Regardless, great 1st half performance with the ball, looked pretty solid and organised for the majority of the 2nd half, fantastic 4th goal on the break and seemed likely to add to it after that.
Fans were great too, ref absolutely hopeless despite it being an easy game to officiate.
I thought a few of them looked knackered at around 60mins if Iām being honest, they all put in a hard shift and the timing of the subs and tactical change worked perfectly.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 4 Jan 19:55
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da_no_1, Sat 4 Jan 19:20
NMCmassive - I went to that Alloa game. Completely disagree
I knew youād disagree cos you know, you disagree with everything I say.
We beat a poor Alloa team despite us being poor on the night. Went then beat Airdrie who were as hapless as Alloa-thankfully. We were actually that good since then the manager got sacked ffs ššš
COYP
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:05
I agree with most of your post Socks but find the following quote very hard to believe.
"McCann was allowed to play aggressively and rough up his man, having had that suppressed by McPake."
Do you really think McPake was telling any of the players not to compete with absolute intensity on or off the ball? When he knew his job was on the line ie, the last 3 months I`m sure he was willing them to bust a gut every game.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:16
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Paralex, Sat 4 Jan 20:05
I agree with most of your post Socks but find the following quote very hard to believe.
"McCann was allowed to play aggressively and rough up his man, having had that suppressed by McPake."
Do you really think McPake was telling any of the players not to compete with absolute intensity on or off the ball? When he knew his job was on the line ie, the last 3 months I`m sure he was willing them to bust a gut every game.
McPakes tactics were all about keeping a solid shape in every area
Don`t press, don`t risk leaving open spaces, keep energy to finish the game stronger than the opposition
It was his philosophy and he was unwilling to change
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:21
I`m talking about style as opposed to desire to compete in a game.
It seems pretty clear to me that over the last couple of years McPake more and more wanted his team not to be aggressive and to actively avoid getting involved in any physical stuff at all costs. Sometimes he`d then reverse that late in the game but not always.
It utterly frustrated me and, as I`ve said before, McPake was a very bad manager for Lewis McCann. It`s always seemed clear to me that he contributes most to the team when he`s allowed to be physical and energetic and get under the skin of his marker. Being forced into that horrible, passive, non-aggressive style was no use to him at all. He`s never going to be the most technically gifted player and might never manage 20 goals a season, but I think he has something important to contribute to the team if he`s allowed to play in a way where his positive attributes can be used. He was allowed to do that today in a way that hasn`t happened much recently. And it was very welcome.
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Topic Originator: Bazzler1981
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:23
Busting a gut and aggression are 2 different things, so to ask a player to take that aggression towards the opposition out his game isnāt an odd request.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:50
Well done to the team and supporters for keeping the faith that dissolved for me in the recent away displays. After numerous away disasters I lost the faith, but supporting the Pars is a real roller coaster and I am genuinely happy for the team and in particular the supporters as I know how tough this has been over the last few months. Well done to all.
Next week against Ayr is 2 free scoring teams so it will be 0-0 š«£
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Topic Originator: TommyR
Date: Sat 4 Jan 20:56
I went in apathy as had nothing better to do than waste 50 odd quid watching the pars get pumped.
Great day out!. That`s the team we all knew was there all along.
Who`d of thought just playing a common sense line up in the right formation with instructs to attack aggressively would work so well.
Cracking game and hats off to our boy John for killing it. As I said before I`m actually excited for the yanks and tidser. It couldn`t get any worse and we may see good times again at East End Park!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 4 Jan 23:17
Quote:
k76, Sat 4 Jan 19:16
Without a doubt our best performance of the season, total contrast to our last away game in Greenock where there was no fight, poor passing & lack of passion and looked like a pub team.
IMO we were lucky against Falkirk but ground out a draw but today we won in style with a superb performance and well merited win that could easily have been by more.
I don`t think coming back from a goal down 3 times against the league leaders was due to luck
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 4 Jan 23:37
Similar to Socks, I thought both halves were exceptional for different reasons.
How often did we start games really on the front foot with McPake? I donāt recall many other than those under the lights and on the telly. We did that so well today and looking at the highlights that first goal from McCann was superb.
I was worried when we conceded such a sloppy equaliser within a couple of minutes and thought weād be done for, haunted many a time by Brian Graham but they proved me wrong and were tremendous.
I thought Comrie was outstanding, Iād go as far as saying that was the best half of football Iāve seen from him, I hope he gets credited with the second goal and the only slight niggle Iām sure heāll have as well was that other goal scoring opportunity that I think he shouldāve put away.
Playing two strikers up front worked a treat, McCann back to his aggressive self and Kane has proven what he can deliver when heās fit. Hamilton had an excellent half.
The whole team, just hungry for it, there was evidently that bond with McLaughlin and Iām sure probably a little bit of trying to impress the incoming boss.
Second half, defensively solid, not often weāve been able to say that this season, dug deep didnāt have much of the ball but contained Partick to very little. Think Partick would be a little disappointed with a couple of opportunities, the Graham header that he timed completely wrong that I thought he wouldāve put away and the clearance on the line from Bene.
From the hour mark you can see they were getting tired and it was great to see McLaughlin address it quickly with three subs, keeping our core midfield fresh.
Partick looked completely out of ideas, I was expecting them to score and have a tense finish like nearly every Pars game it feels but it was the opposite and we were able to bide our time and punish them on the counter.
We couldāve scored two/three more goals than we did today.
Sometimes I think managers just over complicate things, and as a consequence restricts players abilities to show their true selves. Wasnāt the case today.
Re the ref, I wasnāt as fussed as others, didnāt think he was that bad other than the Tobi yellow which was daft.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 4 Jan 23:49
That first goal tho.......šš
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 5 Jan 10:54
Just watching the highlights back another goal conceded where we are unorganised from a set play. so much space for thistle and Toby has to be better. Hopefully Tidser will make defending set plays a priority to focus on in training.
That being said a good reaction to losing such a poor goal and never really gave them a sniff after that. Well taken goal from McCann.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Sun 05 Jan 10:54)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 5 Jan 10:56
I donāt think the goal came from a set play, Cammy?
Bene got sucked out of position a little. Nwengya then compounded that by being sucked into the middle when there really was enough cover. I thought he was slow to shut down Chalmers after that and then Tobi could have done better.
For me, three players that could have made better decisions.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Sun 05 Jan 10:57)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:13
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 10:56
I donāt think the goal came from a set play, Cammy?
Bene got sucked out of position a little. Nwengya then compounded that by being sucked into the middle when there really was enough cover. I thought he was slow to shut down Chalmers after that and then Tobi could have done better.
For me, three players that could have made better decisions.
Fre kick flicked on and then passed wide to a guy in acres of space. Including the pass from the free kick 3 passes and a shot and it was in the net. We were never set from when they played it.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:17
Iāve just watched it again and canāt see how it could be described as losing a goal from a set play.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 5 Jan 11:20
Excellent performance and as JM said, could have been more.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 5 Jan 12:04
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 11:17
Iāve just watched it again and canāt see how it could be described as losing a goal from a set play.
Highlights are a bit vague but was Thistle player not offside?
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 5 Jan 12:14
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LochgellyAlbert, Sun 5 Jan 12:04
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 11:17
Iāve just watched it again and canāt see how it could be described as losing a goal from a set play.
Highlights are a bit vague but was Thistle player not offside?
Iāve not seen the footage back yet, but was inline at the time and Ngwenya actually played both players on. Initial ball into the box and the through ball for the finish. Tobi got it all wrong though
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 5 Jan 14:44
The Thistle goal was clearly from open play.
We defended set pieces well yesterday - and Thistle seemed to have plenty of them in the 2nd half.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 5 Jan 15:06
It`s unrealistic to think we won`t lose goals. Like many other teams these will come from mistakes. Tge important thing is to believe you can score more goals than the opposite team
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 5 Jan 15:23
when we play the top teams we seem to score ,Liv 3,Falk 3,PT 4.It it these teams play more open
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 5 Jan 16:52
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Sun 5 Jan 12:14
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LochgellyAlbert, Sun 5 Jan 12:04
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Raymie the Legend, Sun 5 Jan 11:17
Iāve just watched it again and canāt see how it could be described as losing a goal from a set play.
Highlights are a bit vague but was Thistle player not offside?
Iāve not seen the footage back yet, but was inline at the time and Ngwenya actually played both players on. Initial ball into the box and the through ball for the finish. Tobi got it all wrong though
Yeah, watched again and probably just on side, Fogarty would probably have stopped it but for deflection off Tobi.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sun 5 Jan 18:38
Credit to mccann for the 4th goal, excellent hold up play, spins his man and crosses it in for an easy tap in, what i love to see from him
COYP
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Sun 5 Jan 18:39
How good is it to see us playing with two upnfront!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 5 Jan 18:39
Iāve been calling for it all season.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 5 Jan 20:53
A bit disappointed not to score more.
I remember when Bertie Paton took over (can it really be more than 30 years ago?) he had more or less the same players as Jocky Scott, yet the performances were suddenly entertaining and exciting compared to Scottās teamās. Admittedly there is maybe less pressure at the start of a season than at the end, but I became convinced then that sometimes itās not all the playersā fault. A Killie supporting pal of mine says the same about Steve Clarke ā same players, different coach. huge difference.
Of course there could be any number of reasons for the (so far brief) uptick in performance:
Luck ā sometimes you get the breaks
A change is as good as a rest ā try something different, sometimes it works
Confidence ā a bit more self-belief mightnāt go amiss
Change in formation
Change in attitude
I think the last two are probably the most important. In the case of McCann, having a strike partner probably takes a great weight off his shoulders, knowing that the pressure isnāt on to bury the one chance he might get. And the fact that partner is Kane who can hold the ball up, talk him through the game and score a few goals himself is very helpful.
I thought we showed resilience in a different way this time ā you could see McCann was annoyed after his wonder-goal, fit to win any game, was soon cancelled out, but we got ahead again (slightly fortuitously, Comrie seemed to go with the wrong foot (which may have deceived the defender) but I think itās his goal). For their goal, we seemed to give Turner loads of time to pick out a man, then there seemed to be a domino effect of a succession of players leaving their man to pick up the man with the ball. I think Ngwenya had to come in as thatās where the immediate threat was. the secondary threat could and should have been defended (compare with Mitchellās save from Comrie). On a side note, I seem to remember keepers used to try to save virtually everything with their hands, now they seem to go with their feet a lot more.
Otoo, Comrie, McCann and Wotherspoon all had excellent chances ā I canāt remember when we created so many, at least not in a league match. And we managed the game well ā we seemed to go to a 4-5-1 with the 3 subs ā whether we would have done that sooner if it was 2-1 or even 1-1 who knows. And the substitutions were good (last time at Firhill I think we conceded late on partly because Hamilton could not put in a challenge having been booked). We didnāt make that mistake this time (although there was one heart in mouth moment when Hammy was forced to dive in, but he got the ball so it was fine). I donāt recall seeing a first half booking for time-wasting before ā again I wonder what would have happened had we been only one goal ahead late on and we had a bye-kick.
Post Edited (Sun 05 Jan 20:53)
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Sun 5 Jan 20:54
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Overall I wouldnāt get too carried away ā there have been many false dawns, but it is very encouraging. It was nice to see McLaughlan reluctantly pushed forward at the end to take a bow (as Xavier Benjamin was on a previous visit to Firhill) but Iām sure he doesnāt fancy the job and will be happy to take a back seat again.
Happy New Year, all.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 6 Jan 09:59
Quote:
McCaig`s Tower, Sun 5 Jan 20:54
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Overall I wouldnāt get too carried away ā there have been many false dawns, but it is very encouraging. It was nice to see McLaughlan reluctantly pushed forward at the end to take a bow (as Xavier Benjamin was on a previous visit to Firhill) but Iām sure he doesnāt fancy the job and will be happy to take a back seat again.
Happy New Year, all.
It will be an interesting next game. Since Ayr beat us in November, they have won 3, drawn 1 and lost against Partick. The notable thing about 2 of their wins were against the top 2 at the time, including a thumping of F***irk.
Looking forward to this weekend as long as the pitch heating is on, as I thinking it is supposed to be cold all week.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 6 Jan 12:06
Yeah next game feels like a biggy in terms of which pars team we will see. Not expecting anyone new in this week apart from the manager.
Ayr on a good run and not short of form coming in and we should be riding a high with a new manager in the dugout and the poison from mcpakeās tenure mostly gone.
If we win on sat and as mentioned thereās some cash for tidser to bring in a few then it starts to feel like we could well achieve mid table for the season which didnāt look possible for the whole first half of the season.
As said above, important not to get carried away, beating raith and livi felt the same with good performances and it wasnāt maintained.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 6 Jan 13:28
I just saw the pre match video with pyros in the away end. Sorry boys, not the brightest idea in a wooden stand. I think many of the young lads will have no recollection of the Bradford disaster and I donāt wish to go all old and grumpy, but that is plain stupid.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 6 Jan 13:38
Topic Originator: parsmad68 like
Date: Mon 6 Jan 13:28
I just saw the pre match video with pyros in the away end. Sorry boys, not the brightest idea in a wooden stand. I think many of the young lads will have no recollection of the Bradford disaster and I donāt wish to go all old and grumpy, but that is plain stupid.
Yeah saw that too. Just stupid. Surprised some of them never got lifted.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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