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 Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 14 Jan 22:24

Just noticed that the BBC are showing the Sydney Tennis Classic final tomorrow between Andy Murray and Aslan Karatsev. It will be available on BBC iPlayer, Red Button and the BBC Sport website and app from 8.00 am.



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 Re: Andy Murray on BBC TV
Topic Originator: Skid Chicane  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 08:49

BBC red button (freeview channel 601) or iplayer. Just getting the holding page with some funk music at the moment.
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 Re: Andy Murray on BBC TV
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 08:54

Men`s final was delayed until the women`s final was over; should be on soon.

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 Re: Andy Murray on BBC TV
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 09:21

Kudos to Andy. Integrity and principle.
https://www.skysports.com/tennis/news/12110/12516276/andy-murray-turned-down-seven-figure-fee-to-play-exhibition-matches-in-saudi-arabia-says-his-agent

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 Re: Andy Murray on BBC TV
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 09:39

It`s also on 422 Premier Sports on Sky

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 Re: Andy Murray on BBC TV
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 10:50

Karatsev too good; I must admit I`d never seen him before but he was very impressive.

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 Re: Andy Murray on BBC TV
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sat 15 Jan 13:34

He had a breakthrough year in 2021. Reached the Australian Open semi-final and must have jumped 100+ places in the rankings.

Probably better for Murray to lose in 2 rather than win another marathon session in 3.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 18 Jan 13:18

What a warrior!

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Tue 18 Jan 18:36

Just an absolute inspiration and proper role model.
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Tue 18 Jan 18:40

If only I were a few years younger! I`m a roll model rather than a role model.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Tue 18 Jan 19:05

Thought he was going to lose after being pegged back in the last set?

Never gives in, though.

What about the moronic element loudly booing during his post match interview?




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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Tue 18 Jan 23:30

Quote:

Raymie the Legend, Tue 18 Jan 19:05

Thought he was going to lose after being pegged back in the last set?

Never gives in, though.

What about the moronic element loudly booing during his post match interview?


Was it not the God awful Ronaldo thing that seems to be leaking into other sports. They were at it during the Kyrgios match as well.
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Wed 19 Jan 09:01

Yeah seeing it more and more, especially in sports where you may support someone but it’s not historically tribal (like football). For example:
Formula 1 seems to have attracted an element that boo other drivers (stoked up by max v lewis)
Darts - any non English player was getting boos when going for doubles and cheers when they missed if playing anyone English - again this putting folk off like that all the time is new
Tennis as mentioned

I can understand football support rivalry (on the field) to an extent, but I never get the mentality of supporting someone in individual sports just, and only because they were born within the same political boundary as you
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Wed 19 Jan 10:15

It appears the `boos` were in fact `siuuus`, copying Ronaldo`s celebrations after scoring a goal! I must admit I was totally unaware of him doing that.

Surely fans supporting someone from the same country, or `born within the same political boundary`, is not surprising, especially if it`s a small country where people share the same culture and will have had a lot of common experiences growing up? In that situation I think fans see the sports person as representing them, just as they would in a national team sport. It seems a perfectly natural thing to do to me.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 07:46

Fair point, I suppose It’s down to perception…

for example I don’t see Lewis Hamilton, Tyson Fury, Gerwyn Price, Peter Wright, Andy Murray etc as somehow representing me on the world stage - they’re representing and competing themselves as individuals
(I’m picking folk I’ve heard being boo’d recently)

…and even if I liked them as individual sportsmen (which I do for various reasons) I certainly wouldn’t by default want them to beat everyone else simply because they have the same flag (putting indy views aside for one minute)

I think it’s the tribal attitude I’m not really getting to the same extent as in things like football)… in fact, as a big F1 fan, to use the max v Lewis scenario - it actually felt like a bunch of football fans got in on the rivalry and treated it like they were on the terraces and not in a sport where people primarily want to see a good race - kinda regardless of who wins

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 09:34

Eliminated in straight sets

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 10:04

I didn`t see any of today`s match but maybe the exertions of the last couple of weeks took their toll. It just shows the strength-in-depth of professional tennis.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 10:28

Absolutely, wee eck. Daniel ranked 120 and I`d never heard of him, but a very good player




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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 11:10

I wouldn`t say that is an indicator of how strong men`s tennis is. Andy Murray is ranked 113 in the world now and his days of going deep into `slams is long gone. That`s not a criticism its just the reality of age and injuries taking its toll.
In my opinion the fact that for the past fifteen years three players have dominated the game isn`t a sign of strength in the sport but a sign of weakness. Djokovic, Federer and Nadal should have been pushed out of the equation long ago had the next generation been up to the task.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 11:26

Prior to his injury Murray thrashed Daniel in the Davis Cup 6-1, 6-3, 6-1 in less than 90 minutes. I hope his expectations aren`t too high now, he enjoys his tennis and isn`t causing any long term damage.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 11:39

You can have strength-in-depth without every player being a potential Grand Slam winner. It`s always amusing seeing fans passing judgement on players who, as evidenced by their record of achievement over a long period of time, have a completely different mindset from the average punter. No one will know better than Andy Murray what is a realistic target in his last few years competing at the top level.

I feel for Emma Raducanu who will soon take over the mantle of expectation the British media and fans love to put on promising sports people. Andy Murray had the resilience and character to deal with it; I hope she does too.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 11:44

Think she just got knocked out?
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 11:45

Murray quoted as saying he won`t be back to Australian Open next year if he has many more performances like that-I could see this being his last year sadly.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 14:09

I didn`t see that but I saw a quote that he felt OK physically before today`s match so it doesn`t seem defeat can be put down to tiredness.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 15:12

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parathletic, Thu 20 Jan 11:45

Murray quoted as saying he won`t be back to Australian Open next year if he has many more performances like that-I could see this being his last year sadly.


Yeah sadly said this morning that I suspect this may be his last season, been great to watch him though and he’s earned his retirement should he make that decision

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 18:04

The body has to give sometime and several 3+ hours court battles must take its toll over the years .. Its not like a team game where you can maybe hide for a wee bit to try and recover .. Should he decide to retire I wish him all the best and thank him for providing us with great pride while watching him

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 18:06

The fact that Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have 60 grand slams between them isn`t a damning indictment of any batch of `new` players.

It is because they`re the 3 best players of all time, they`ve all been on the scene at roughly the same time and, until recently, have managed to keep free from injury for their entire careers.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 20 Jan 19:03

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DA-go Par Adonis, Thu 20 Jan 18:06

The fact that Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have 60 grand slams between them isn`t a damning indictment of any batch of `new` players.

It is because they`re the 3 best players of all time, they`ve all been on the scene at roughly the same time and, until recently, have managed to keep free from injury for their entire careers.


Dunno, Djokovic must be riddled with injuries since he has always gone down with one when he is losing or in trouble in a match 🤔

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 19 Jan 17:41

I thought I`d resurrect this thread from a year ago after Andy`s two unbelievable wins in this year`s Australian Open. It`s absolute madness that players are asked to play until 4 am and the winner is expected to play again in less than 48 hours. Goodness knows what condition Andy will be in on Saturday.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Thu 19 Jan 18:45

An incredible performance especially given his exertions on Tuesday and to come back from two sets down speaks so much about his mental strength. He well have the greatest "will to win " , guts and determination of any sporstman.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 19 Jan 19:23

Just said to Mrs buspass how many athletes could perform for 5 hours and 45 minutes .. a superb effort and great mental strength ..

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 19 Jan 20:01

Absolute machine. Well done Sir Andy 👏👏

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Thu 19 Jan 23:07

Just watched his game on you tube. Incredible comeback. Some of his returns in one particular game were almost unbelievable.

Crazy he is playing again so soon after that marathon.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 21 Jan 10:36

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desparado, Thu 19 Jan 23:07

Just watched his game on you tube. Incredible comeback. Some of his returns in one particular game were almost unbelievable.

Crazy he is playing again so soon after that marathon.


And yet we think 2 games a week of football is too much.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 21 Jan 12:03

Another phenomenal effort this morning but Andy bows out. Fantastic achievement to even get this far at 35 after the operations he`s had 👏👏👏

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 21 Jan 13:03

In a way he was the victim of his own reputation. The organisers obviously want to feature a big name in the last match of the day but, if it`s a long one, the winner is inevitably scheduled for a late start in the next round to help his recovery. When they`re finishing at 4 am though it must mess with sleep patterns and the biological clock.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 24 Feb 17:43

Now he`s in the final of the Qatar Open. As usual Andy did it the hard way, winning the first set 6-0, losing the second then winning the third set on a tie break after saving five match points.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 21:56

Regardless of the outcome here its good to see him playing and moving this well.
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 22:08

A break up in the third against Tsitsipas. One set all.
Going to be a long night




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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 22:14

I think they can only play until 11 tonight?
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 22:15

So they don’t disturb the residents ?




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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 22:17

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Raymie the Legend, Thu 6 Jul 22:15

So they don’t disturb the residents ?


I believe so.Doesn`t seem to happen at the other Slams but they were talking about the match being finished with the roof open tomorrow.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 22:38

Sure the time limit is to do with the Tube running schedule.

Think it`s been mentioned in the past when the matches have run late.


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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 22:43

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SusieQ, Thu 6 Jul 22:38

Sure the time limit is to do with the Tube running schedule.

Think it`s been mentioned in the past when the matches have run late.


It was part of the planning permission when the roof went on.It was to protect the residents from disturbances.
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 22:47

Hoping that late fall wasn`t too bad there.🤞
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 23:10

Tsitsipas was playing to an incredibly high standard in the first two sets but Andy just hung on until he eventually took the initiative. He never knows when he`s beaten.

Tsitsipas has a doubles match scheduled for tomorrow which may affect the timing of the resumption of the singles match.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 23:14

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wee eck, Thu 6 Jul 23:10

Tsitsipas was playing to an incredibly high standard in the first two sets but Andy just hung on until he eventually took the initiative. He never knows when he`s beaten.

Tsitsipas has a doubles match scheduled for tomorrow which may affect the timing of the resumption of the singles match.


His doubles partner and girlfriend also has a singles match scheduled for tomorrow unless it's the men's doubles that he is playing with his brother?

ETA The mixed doubles is on Saturday.Busy schedule for him.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 6 Jul 23:33

Yeah, he`s scheduled to play men`s doubles with his brother tomorrow.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 7 Jul 10:07

Murray v Tsitsipas will resume after Alcaraz v Muller which starts at 1.30.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 7 Jul 10:20

Hope that he has overcome his injury from last night, looked a painful one in the groin area!
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 7 Jul 12:50

He needed Buffy’s magic sponge, Lochgelly. Word has got around.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 7 Jul 14:08

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buffy, Fri 7 Jul 12:50

He needed Buffy’s magic sponge, Lochgelly. Word has got around.


How many holding you back?😲🤣👍😎🙈
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 7 Jul 15:17

😂

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 7 Jul 18:20

Andy couldn`t get his first serve working today. Last night`s suspension worked in Tsitsipas`s favour I think.

Norrie out too; all rests on Broady.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 7 Jul 19:43

Murray would almost certainly have gone on to win last night.
Don’t think any other grand slam is subjected to curfews ?




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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Fri 7 Jul 19:46

Gutted he missed that challenge - he could have potentially been serving for the match.

Playing No 5 seed was always going to be a tough ask tho - hopefully not the last we see of Andy at Wimbledon 😪🥎


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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: dover par  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 10:09

Murray is finished in my view, he should retire.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 10:16

What does `finished` mean?

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 10:49

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dover par, Sat 8 Jul 10:09

Murray is finished in my view, he should retire.


Top 40 in the world and won 2 tournaments in the last month.He said he was the fittest he`s been since 2016 and he looked it too.Tsitsipas is number 5 in the world so there was no disgrace in losing a tight match that only had 2 breaks of serve in 5 sets.Nobody would begrudge him if he wants to retire but if he wants it I see no reason why he couldn`t come back as a seed next year.
It sounded like Claire Balding wanted to retire him too, he`s earned the right to go out when he wants to.He is a week older than Djokovic.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 10:53

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dover par, Sat 8 Jul 10:09

Murray is finished in my view, he should retire.


He`s not "finished"

If he chooses to pack it in, he`ll do so in the knowledge that he`s doing it for the very best personal reasons, not because someone on .net says so.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 10:53

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parathletic, Sat 8 Jul 10:49

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dover par, Sat 8 Jul 10:09

Murray is finished in my view, he should retire.


Top 40 in the world and won 2 tournaments in the last month.He said he was the fittest he`s been since 2016 and he looked it too.Tsitsipas is number 5 in the world so there was no disgrace in losing a tight match that only had 2 breaks of serve in 5 sets.Nobody would begrudge him if he wants to retire but if he wants it I see no reason why he couldn`t come back as a seed next year.
It sounded like Claire Balding wanted to retire him too, he`s earned the right to go out when he wants to.He is a week older than Djokovic.


Great post

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 10:56

Elite athletes have a totally different mentality from lesser mortals. That`s a big part of what sets them apart. It`s amusing hearing others telling him when he should retire.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 12:45

Why should he retire if he doesn`t want to?
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 15:05

I think it`s a tremendous indicator of his character that he is willing to carry on competing even though it`s very unlikely he will ever go deep into a Slam again. When he was rising to the top of the game there would have been many a hardened warrior veteran that would have been dispatched by a fitter, better, Murray. Now it`s went full circle, all glory is fleeting and he is going to pay his dues back to the game. Kind of inspiring really.

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They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 17:42

I don`t think us lesser mortals will ever fully understand the dedication .. practice ..wear and tear on the body .. mental strength .. injury and pain barrier that these top tennis players go through .. or indeed any top athlete .. Andy always seemed to make it difficult .. No doubting his ability or mental approach but over the years he has had some very long hard slogs and injury`s .. Credit to him .. I hope he keeps going .. his body will tell him



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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 17:46

Tsitsipas just went through in straight sets today and plays Christopher Eubanks for a place in the quarters.What might have been.
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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sat 8 Jul 21:31

Maybe Murray will keep playing because he likes playing tennis. He’s fortunate to have made a fortune doing something he loves but it remains a game which is enjoyable for people who are passionate about it so why retire?

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 10 Jul 05:42

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Buspasspar, Sat 8 Jul 17:42

I don`t think us lesser mortals will ever fully understand the dedication .. practice ..wear and tear on the body .. mental strength .. injury and pain barrier that these top tennis players go through .. or indeed any top athlete .. Andy always seemed to make it difficult .. No doubting his ability or mental approach but over the years he has had some very long hard slogs and injury`s .. Credit to him .. I hope he keeps going .. his body will tell him



Great post, BPP, but I can`t agree with your last sentence. If he keeps going, he could end up almost a cripple. He`s had an excellent career, has nothing to prove to anyone and doesn`t need the money. For these reasons, I think he should retire from top level tennis. He could still have the odd knockabout if he gets withdrawal symptoms. 🙂



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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Mon 10 Jul 08:26

I think it`s the competition against top-level opponents that he craves so a knock-about with friends or family isn`t going to satisfy that but as he gets older the harder it will be to emulate the standards of the best players. I hope he has been taking medical advice on the long-term effects of continuing to play at the highest level.

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 Re: Andy Murray
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 10 Jul 09:52

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wee eck, Mon 10 Jul 08:26

I think it`s the competition against top-level opponents that he craves so a knock-about with friends or family isn`t going to satisfy that but as he gets older the harder it will be to emulate the standards of the best players. I hope he has been taking medical advice on the long-term effects of continuing to play at the highest level.


I get that, wee eck, but he needs to be sensible about it. If he doesn`t seek medical advice, in case he hears something he doesn`t want to hear, that would be foolish in the extreme.



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