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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 9 Apr 08:38
What's not to love about them eh...
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 9 Apr 11:12
Just read this and fair to say it is disgusting. Self serving bar stewards. They should all be donating at least 20% of their wages to a common fund.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
Post Edited (Thu 09 Apr 11:13)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 9 Apr 11:36
Aye we are in it together right enough :(
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 9 Apr 11:44
Paid for from the 9.2 billion sale of MHS services to private healthcare services?
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 9 Apr 12:34
Worth noting that anyone being pushed to work from home can claim back expenses. There's a set amount you can claim back on electricity. Think you can claim tax on office equipment.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 9 Apr 14:06
No doubt there will be some with the brass neck to claim back the lecky for all the netflix series they have been binge watching while 'working' from home.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 9 Apr 14:22
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Thu 9 Apr 14:06
No doubt there will be some with the brass neck to claim back the lecky for all the netflix series they have been binge watching while 'working' from home.
Aye, sure it'll be very similar levels to the Westminster pigs...
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 9 Apr 14:51
Indeed every chance that the likes of Blackford, Duncan-Smith, Corbyn, etc will have snout firmly in the trough.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 9 Apr 15:20
Their company credit card been extended by 10K as well, totally shameless!😡
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 9 Apr 15:29
Brits will really have turned into mini America if there is no civil unrest after all this mess. Politicians really are the scum gathering at the top
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Thu 9 Apr 15:36
'Indeed every chance that the likes of Blackford, Duncan-Smith, Corbyn, etc will have snout firmly in the trough'
Not sure why Corbyn got name checked there: his expenses were regularly amongst the lowest claimed by MPs in the Westminster parliament.
As a mental exercise, just imagine that Corbyn was PM during this virus outbreak and, purely for the sake of argument, that he had taken exactly the same decisions as Johnson before being himself hospitalised. What do you imagine the tabloid headline writers would be saying?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 9 Apr 16:01
I picked Corbyn because he is probably the high profile Labour MP, the same for Blackford with the snp (maybe Mhari Black) and IDS for the Tories who isn't in the cabinet.
The previous posters also included those people when they reference mp's and politicians indiscriminately without nuance.
Here is another mental exercise for us Sammer. We can only speculate on how Johnson and the Tories would have handled this crisis if they were staring down the barrel of a general election next year. Of course they aren't because for some unfathomable reason Corbyn supported them in their quest to have an election last December.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 9 Apr 20:22
Quote:
sammer, Thu 9 Apr 15:36
'Indeed every chance that the likes of Blackford, Duncan-Smith, Corbyn, etc will have snout firmly in the trough'
Not sure why Corbyn got name checked there: his expenses were regularly amongst the lowest claimed by MPs in the Westminster parliament.
As a mental exercise, just imagine that Corbyn was PM during this virus outbreak and, purely for the sake of argument, that he had taken exactly the same decisions as Johnson before being himself hospitalised. What do you imagine the tabloid headline writers would be saying?
Dither and delay?
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Thu 9 Apr 20:49
Herd Immunity? We’re not animals Comrade Napoleon!
Britons say NO to Corbyn’s Police State Lockdown.
Andy Capps get 80% for Sitting on Sofa!
Grim Reaper Corbyn cuts down 560 more.
Clueless Corbyn in search of Plan B.
Britons Demand 8pm ‘Jeer for Jezza!’
Ailing Corbyn Succumbs to Virus.
Bollinger Bolshevik in Private Wing of St Thomas’.
‘Put Boris in Charge’ pleads Blair.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 9 Apr 21:49
Labour Guides UK Through Crisis ~ The Guardian
Jezza The Great, Labour Supremo Zaps Virus ~ The Mirror
Corbyn Rises To Challenge ~ RT
Corbyn Does Amazingly Like I Knew He Would As We Share A Similar World View and Thus He Could Never Have Any Faults ~ Sammer on .net
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Thu 9 Apr 22:05
It's news to me that the Guardian ever supported anything Corbyn did. They had one article a week criticising him when he was leader.
The Mirror? Maybe. 'Zaps' was a good choice. RT? Possibly, since Corbyn was at heart a Brexit man.
For me? I think Corbyn was a man who fought good causes but he was not one of life's leaders. He didn't know when to put the boot into opponents on either his own side or the other. It's better he never got the chance to be tested by this crisis or the media would have painted him as the problem rather than the virus. In fact they might well have made the point that socialism is a virus so it was all a bit inevitable.
We are being softened up for 'Britain Boost as Boris Bounces Back' headlines but he will emerge from illness only when the numbers are in his favour. Until then Raab and Hancock can play funeral director.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 9 Apr 22:15
Corbyn donates his £10K to the NHS👍
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Fri 10 Apr 08:35
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Thu 9 Apr 22:15
Corbyn donates his £10K to the NHS👍
Saw this...naturally people will think it will shame others into doing the same but they're really all just salesmen and fall guys...pigs with snouts at the trough.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: Perkins
Date: Fri 10 Apr 08:43
"Corbyn donates his £10K to the NHS👍 "
That doesn't make sense. It's an expense allowance which can be claimed for certain expenses. It's not just £10k cash given to every MP
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 10 Apr 09:04
Can't find any evidence of Corbyn donating 10k to the nhs and like you say Perkins I don't know how he would be able to as an expenses claim. He could probably afford to as he made over 140k last year. Mind you 64 thousand of that was for being leader of the opposition which he won't be getting now.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Fri 10 Apr 15:29
I’m in favour of this.
If I were an employee, I wouldn’t expect a good employer to leave me out of pocket if I had to buy things needed for my job.
Similarly, if I were required to work from home, I would expect to be provided with the appropriate kit.
In particular, if I were a case-worker for an MP I would probably currently be inundated with queries from people on the front-line about testing and lack of PPE, others being forced to work in dangerous situations, people whose businesses were collapsing or people stuck abroad, so getting a 2nd hand printer or a reconditioned lap-top might be helpful. All expenses will be receipted and will have to be approved and presumably will be available for selection.
I assume Lochgelly Albert's reference to Corbyn was merely a suggested headline; it hasn't actually (and indeed, as Perkins says can't) happened.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 10 Apr 16:57
If I were an employee without suitable PPE I would be somewhat annoyed to find that laptops and stamps for MPs appear to be being prioritised ahead of my life or death requirements.
People wfh all over the country are buying their own furniture and "pulling together" without too much complaint despite very difficult circumstances, in the knowledge that it will either be sorted out afterwards through the normal expenses system or else they have a new desk that they essentially bought with all the wfh savings like food costs and commuting.
People's problem here is that it is a pretty tone deaf thing to do whilst folk are being furloughed and chucked on the dole in record numbers, when there were clearly less contentious and insulting ways to ensure that MPs' staff get the equipment they require to work from home.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 10 Apr 19:46
If I were an employee without suitable PPE I would be somewhat annoyed to find that laptops and stamps for MPs appear to be being prioritised ahead of my life or death requirements
I think that's unfair. Money is relatively easy to redistribute. PPE needs to be manufactured, distributed, sanitised...obviously that'll take longer to resolve than adding 10k to some expense accounts.
The PPE mess is scandal - a huge one, and the government should be pilloried - but these two issues shouldn't be conflated.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 10 Apr 19:57
I wasn't conflating them though: I was making a point about leading by example when you expect big sacrifice of others.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Fri 10 Apr 21:02
You may not have intended to conflate them - but, to me, you definitely did. No worries.
Anyhow - your point is a valid one. Our response the this is very poor, from the lack of testing, to the lack of PPE, to the delay in the lockdown. And all the Government will say is 'we're following the science' - which is 2020's 'Brexit means Brexit.
The conspiracy theorist in me tells me that when history shows we've dealt with this worse than others (980 deaths today being a grim European Record), it won't be the government that takes the flack - the poor scientists will be thrown under Boris's bus.
Post Edited (Fri 10 Apr 21:46)
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Fri 10 Apr 23:07
Johnson has been absent during the days of the highest death tolls. We are already hearing anxious stories about him maybe returning to work too soon.
I would not worry on his behalf. He will return when the numbers of dead are falling and the lockdown can be eased. I expect a rejuvenated premier will address the nation with the good news.
As for the eventuality of the UK finishing bottom of the survival league, that can be laid at the door of China misleading our scientists and the EU refusing to give us free gear. After that the main thing will be to get Brexit done and cut our hedge und managers some slack.
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Topic Originator: donj
Date: Fri 10 Apr 23:08
Why don't mp's use their extra expense claim to buy ppe to distribute in their constituencies.I doubt the claim would be refused.I doubt any of them need the extra expense for anything anyway.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 10 Apr 23:09
Torch Westminster, punt career politicians and start over. This country is corrupt to the core at the top. Health minister should be a former Dr etc. Career politicians are the cancer that's turned this country into the Brexiteer hell hole that it is
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 11 Apr 00:47
Too right. I couldn't believe it when Kenny MacAskill was elected back in December. Mind you Holyrood isn't much better when it comes to career politicians. Look at Joanna Cherry and
Angus Robertson battling away to get into the Scottish Parliament.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sat 11 Apr 08:21
How does everyone feel about Bill Gates Gates microchip, you all getting it?
And the mandatory vaccine "passport" being described as "unavoidable" you queuing for that?
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 11 Apr 09:48
Yeah the Bill Gates microchip story has already been debunked as a piece of fake news.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sat 11 Apr 10:00
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 11 Apr 09:48
Yeah the Bill Gates microchip story has already been debunked as a piece of fake news.
It really hasn't.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan
Date: Sat 11 Apr 10:44
They already have £26k a year they can claim in office expenses and now they're allowed another £10k.
There should be very little in the amount of excess claims, if any, that need to be made and anything that does get put in should be subject to some pretty rigorous checking with our politicians rather dubious previous on expense claims.
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Sun 12 Apr 00:03
10k is to assist their office staff to work at home and purchase laptops and printers etc so they can continue to help their constituents. Given the vast amounts of money already provided by the gov. This is a drip in ocean. this money seems reasonable. Far more reasonable than footballers getting paid on furlough.
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Sun 12 Apr 00:32
Quote:
dafc, Sun 12 Apr 00:03
this money seems reasonable. .
Nope. No it doesn't. £10k to get a few people working from home? Really?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 12 Apr 11:08
Look you've been called out for spreading fake news. Own it and move on.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sun 12 Apr 13:37
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sun 12 Apr 11:08
Look you've been called out for spreading fake news. Own it and move on.
So you looked into the various vaccine companies he owns/ has interests in?
No, you didn't.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 12 Apr 13:48
No need. Known for years that his foundation has been spending billions vaccinating children in the developing world from the sort of illnesses that in Scotland we don't think twice about.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Mon 13 Apr 10:43
Hancock....mandatory vaccination being considered.
Hmmm.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 14 Apr 07:35
Liked a trip to Epstrin's too did Bill Gates...
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 14 Apr 14:18
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 11 Apr 09:48
Yeah the Bill Gates microchip story has already been debunked as a piece of fake news.
This subject not going away now is it...daily mail (you Tories like that rag)
New York Times...
Wee bet?
Or all quiet on the western front?
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh
Date: Wed 15 Apr 14:57
TOWK is a Tory?
LOL, as young people say.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 16 Apr 12:06
Lol indeed 😂
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 16 Apr 12:42
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Thu 16 Apr 12:06
Lol indeed 😂
So...a out that bet, you've gone quiet on the subject...
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh
Date: Thu 16 Apr 15:36
I met Bill Gates once and he didn't even try microchipping me.
Granted he was more than 10 metres away, but surely a man like that can afford a decent staple gun to fire one into my brain.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 16 Apr 16:59
Having already debunked it once I have no reason to beat it into the ground. You've referenced the Daily Mail and the New York Times, yet failed to provide any link to their stories (I wonder why). Strangely enough though both of those media outlets are very much part of the big bad msn that you ridiculed as an information source just several posts up! You couldn't make it up..... well actually then again.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Fri 17 Apr 13:02
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Thu 16 Apr 16:59
Having already debunked it once I have no reason to beat it into the ground. You've referenced the Daily Mail and the New York Times, yet failed to provide any link to their stories (I wonder why). Strangely enough though both of those media outlets are very much part of the big bad msn that you ridiculed as an information source just several posts up! You couldn't make it up..... well actually then again.
I referenced them because you can't see past them.
Boll Gates believes there are too many people on earth but hey, wants to save those too many, I'm sure you and your family will go first...yeah?
He's also stated his own children will not be vaccinated...but yeah....you crack on.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh
Date: Fri 17 Apr 13:55
What was the name of the doctor who claimed that Gates didn't vaccinate his children?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 17 Apr 14:40
Well I've cracked on and can't find any evidence of Bill Gates saying he wouldnt vaccinate his own children.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh
Date: Fri 17 Apr 15:14
Now you could assume that one of two things might have happened:
1) It could have been made up by someone and spread quickly around the internet
or
2) It could be the truth and the doctor really said it, then all mention of the doctor was removed from the face of the earth and all hard evidence was deleted from the internet and people were paid/threatened so that they wouldn't say anything.
I could be persuaded either way. They both seem equally likely.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Fri 17 Apr 16:42
Quote:
aaaaaaaaaargh, Fri 17 Apr 15:14
Now you could assume that one of two things might have happened:
1) It could have been made up by someone and spread quickly around the internet
or
2) It could be the truth and the doctor really said it, then all mention of the doctor was removed from the face of the earth and all hard evidence was deleted from the internet and people were paid/threatened so that they wouldn't say anything.
I could be persuaded either way. They both seem equally likely.
It's actually very difficult to erase all evidence from the internet. You might think it's pretty easy and money will stop anything being seen but there are always ways to find out if you know how to.
Post Edited (Fri 17 Apr 16:43)
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 17 Apr 17:39
I think and hope that aaaaaarggh was being sarcastic.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 17 Apr 17:57
Quote moviescot :-
It's actually very difficult to erase all evidence from the internet. You might think it's pretty easy and money will stop anything being seen but there are always ways to find out if you know how to.
Miss Brasier did no a bad job
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Fri 17 Apr 19:11
Quote:
Buspasspar, Fri 17 Apr 17:57
Quote moviescot :-
It's actually very difficult to erase all evidence from the internet. You might think it's pretty easy and money will stop anything being seen but there are always ways to find out if you know how to.
Miss Brasier did no a bad job
I have no idea who that is but anything you want to know will still be available to read if you know how to get it.
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh
Date: Fri 17 Apr 23:24
Apologies. I was indeed being sarcastic.
Even when governments and billionaires are involved the simple answer is usually the right one.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 18 Apr 12:29
Now the House of Lords demanding their £323 a day to log on to their virtual sessions!
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 22 Apr 07:51
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Sat 18 Apr 12:29
Now the House of Lords demanding their £323 a day to log on to their virtual sessions!
Worth every penny, they'll sleep just as effectively at their monitors as on the benches.
Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 22 Apr 14:04
Cracking answer from Nicola Sturgeon today at her daily briefing when asked if she would be following the example of the NZ Prime Minister in taking a salary cut to show solidarity with people suffering financially from the effects of the coronavirus lockdown. She pointed out that her salary was still at 2008-09 levels when she and other Scottish government ministers agreed to freeze their salaries following the international financial crisis. How many people knew that?
Post Edited (Wed 22 Apr 14:51)
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 22 Apr 16:53
Probably everyone that isn't a throbbing British Nationalist tbh. For some bizarre reason it maybe gets reported for a day on mainstream UK media, then swept under the carpet and back to SNP bashing...
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Wed 22 Apr 17:08
ME
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 22 Apr 18:05
It was a guy from the Daily Express who asked the question today. You would think he would have known the answer he was going to get. I wonder if he'll report it tomorrow?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 22 Apr 23:06
I'm often very critical of the SNP (particularly our local MP) but that's very humble of them not to take pay rises. It annoys me no end that these politicians have been getting above inflation pay rises whilst offering what is effectively pay cuts to the public sector.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 23 Apr 15:16
I'll vote for a virtual parliament, not the usual shouting and screaming, but members allowed to ask questions and get something like answers.
No more expenses for 2nd and 3rd homes, drink and restaurant bills, and do the same with the other house. They can stuff their £300 a day to sit snoring after having a 5 course lunch at the taxpayers expense!
Join the Revolution, end corruption!😎🤗
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 5 May 19:42
I've never understood the second home thing. Surely it would be cheaper to purchase or build a block of flats and allocate one to each MP?
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