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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 18 Mar 13:26
Scotland`s head of referees Crawford Allan is to leave his post at the end of the season as the Scottish FA conducts a review of the role in light of ongoing VAR controversies. The governing body says Allan, who has been in the role for four years, is leaving "to pursue new opportunities".
SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell admits that "VAR processes need to improve". He urged all parties to "work together to alleviate unsustainable pressure on match officials and VAR operators". Maxwell wants "to remove the convenient blame culture attached to subjective or unpopular decisions and to ensure more focus is placed on the entertainers rather than the on-field facilitators". He told the SFA website: "This includes all key external stakeholders having a better understanding of the laws of the game, the lines of intervention for VAR and the adopted guidance within Scottish football, especially in subjective areas such as the handball law."
The SFA has started its search to "ensure an experienced replacement will be in place for the new season. This will coincide with a planned review of the operational priorities of the department based on the insights to date from VAR implementation, as well as feedback from category one match officials and VAR operators, the Scottish FA`s professional game board, the SPFL`s competitions working group and the independent review panel," Maxwell added. The chief executive thanked Allan for "his efforts in implementing VAR within Scottish football and guiding refereeing through the Covid-19 pandemic", describing the introduction of video assistant referee system as "a thankless task".
Allan considers it "an honour" to have been in charge "during such an historic period of change" following his 30 years as a match official, including 15 years in the top flight. "While there are refinements and improvements to be made to VAR, as there are in leagues across the world, it has taken a monumental effort from my team at the Scottish FA and the match officials to have it embedded in the Premiership and cup matches at Hampden Park," he said. "VAR is only one aspect of the role, albeit one that can overshadow the positive strides we have taken forward."
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 18 Mar 15:09
The problem isnt VAR, the problem is incompetent referees, at all levels. The ones at the top are bad, but they get worse the lower down you go.
The job will end up going to Willie Collum no doubt, if he choses to give up the job this year.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Mon 18 Mar 15:16
Maybe Bobby Madden? He`s forever popping up on radio giving his opinion on VAR decisions.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 18 Mar 15:34
The job`s become the proverbial `poisoned chalice` since the introduction of VAR. Until the issues around it are resolved it`s hard to see anyone fancying the role.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Mon 18 Mar 16:56
There’s a quite simple solution to the VAR issue and that’s follow Rugby and allow the reviews to be seen on stadium screens and give each bench a headset so they can listen in to what’s going on! That way it’d be open and everyone would see what’s going on!
Wouldn’t stop the Rangers management complaining though!
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Mon 18 Mar 17:56
EastEndTales wrote:
> Here`s an idea.
> Get it in the fckn bin
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Why? It actually works in every other sport that uses it!
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Mon 18 Mar 20:25
Quote:
ParfectXI, Mon 18 Mar 17:56
EastEndTales wrote:
> Here`s an idea.
> Get it in the fckn bin
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Why? It actually works in every other sport that uses it!
Because it doesn`t work for football.
Don`t care if Rugby or golf or the local Gin Rummy club want to use it, it`s flawed for football.
The ONLY thing we should use in semi relation to this is reliable goal line technology.
Ep.16 of East End Tales is out now with Steven Mill
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/14949749
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Mon 18 Mar 20:36
"Because it doesn`t work for football.
Don`t care if Rugby or golf or the local Gin Rummy club want to use it, it`s flawed for football.
The ONLY thing we should use in semi relation to this is reliable goal line technology.
We might have won the Scottish Cup in 2004 if VAR had been in place for Bobo Balde`s handball ... :(
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Topic Originator: the saline hill puma
Date: Mon 18 Mar 21:35
Quote:
Stanza, Mon 18 Mar 20:36
"Because it doesn`t work for football.
Don`t care if Rugby or golf or the local Gin Rummy club want to use it, it`s flawed for football.
The ONLY thing we should use in semi relation to this is reliable goal line technology.
We might have won the Scottish Cup in 2004 if VAR had been in place for Bobo Balde`s handball ... :(
We might not have gone 1-0 up had VAR been involved
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Mon 18 Mar 22:32
Do you not remember that there were far more mistakes before the introduction of VAR?
The referees job is incredibly difficult and to give them the assistance they need is a step in the right direction.
A large section of fans though will see an offside when a goal is scored against their team even when it’s shown on TV as onside, or they’ll see a foul where there isn’t one and we see these calls come up all the time as the “VAR got it wrong again”
However, the rules on using VAR are far too convoluted and needs to be made easier for everyone to understand - For instance VAR can look again at a red card but not a second yellow (as seen in the Hibs v Rangers cup game recently). It looked clear that the ref had made a mistake but was unable to look at it again, which surely would have been the yellow card rescinded and a Yellow card for the Rangers Player for simulation.
All in all though there are less mistakes now that pre VAR!
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 19 Mar 12:35
Quote:
ParfectXI, Mon 18 Mar 16:56
There’s a quite simple solution to the VAR issue and that’s follow Rugby and allow the reviews to be seen on stadium screens and give each bench a headset so they can listen in to what’s going on! That way it’d be open and everyone would see what’s going on!
Wouldn’t stop the Rangers management complaining though!
VAR didn`t stop the Scotland rugby management complaining
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Tue 19 Mar 13:12
The problem is trifold, poor refs, poor var Decisions and probably most important poor/vague rules.
Specifically is it offside or not, it needs to changed to the last time feet were in contact with ground.and use that point It needs to be better offside, not 20 seconds after it occurred, it needs to improve what constitutes a handball, it needs to stop play acting and players falling over when they could have stayed up. Refs need to communicate better on decisions. And finally stop players having violent tantrums if they disagree perhaos post match reviews for violence or .cheating etc
There will always be some controversy.thats part of the fun.
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Tue 19 Mar 14:06
Quote:
ParfectXI, Mon 18 Mar 22:32
Do you not remember that there were far more mistakes before the introduction of VAR?
The referees job is incredibly difficult and to give them the assistance they need is a step in the right direction.
A large section of fans though will see an offside when a goal is scored against their team even when it’s shown on TV as onside, or they’ll see a foul where there isn’t one and we see these calls come up all the time as the “VAR got it wrong again”
However, the rules on using VAR are far too convoluted and needs to be made easier for everyone to understand - For instance VAR can look again at a red card but not a second yellow (as seen in the Hibs v Rangers cup game recently). It looked clear that the ref had made a mistake but was unable to look at it again, which surely would have been the yellow card rescinded and a Yellow card for the Rangers Player for simulation.
All in all though there are less mistakes now that pre VAR!
Nothing will convince me right now. Its still to the mercy of someone`s judgement and they`re getting things wrong even with hindsight. Just leave it to the match officials out there for me.
Ep.16 of East End Tales is out now with Steven Mill
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/14949749
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Tue 19 Mar 19:45
IMHO… VAR has to be used for matters of fact.
Ball over goal line etc
Somehow they have screwed up offside, there needs to be a definitive rule followed, none of the recent Bollox of elbow being further forward is in the ‘advantage to the attacking team’ ethos.
The latest re-rerefereeing of incidents in last 2/3/4 minutes before a goal is just stupid, the ref has to be in charge, unless there is a specific incident in the seconds before a goal that affects the outcome missed by the ref, sod right off.
Rugby (despite the dodgy try screwups in the last 2 weeks) has it much better.
The ref makes a decision, and unless the VAR can show definitively that he was wrong, the ref’s decision stands.
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