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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 11 Sep 09:57
Was this the best goal of the month contest ever? - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/videos/cdrl4431m47o
9 of the 10 goals were long shots from outside the box , but stats now dhow last season was the worst for goals scored from outside the area since 2002/3 since stats for that started.
In the 2006-07 Premier League season 22.3% of non-penalty goals came from outside the box.
The figure for 2023-24 was nearly half that at 12.4%.
Indeed, in the last campaign, outside-of-the-box goals made up the lowest share of total goals in any Premier League season.
Post Edited (Wed 11 Sep 09:59)
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Topic Originator: TrancePar
Date: Wed 11 Sep 11:04
I think it`s just because keepers and defenders have gotten better.
Life is made of small moments like these
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Topic Originator: jojo
Date: Wed 11 Sep 11:35
A lot of teams have adopted the Pep/Spain approach of playing out from the back and pass pass possession to try and walk the ball into the goal or , lately , with two wingers out wide who get the ball and fire crosses into box or attack full backs and get into the box . This cuts out the number of modern players looking to shoot from distance . There are still plenty opportunities in games for a midfield player to have a long shot but the emphasis of modern coaching seems to be based on recycling possession by turning back rather than having a pop
Post Edited (Wed 11 Sep 12:03)
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 11 Sep 11:55
It`s an evolution of the game; in the same way that, ironically, basketball has shifted in opposite direction, it`s all about the long shots now rather than the dunks.
Tactics will evolve again; when teams start to defend successfully against the `recycle possession` approach I`m sure the long shot will come back into vogue - but yes, for now, it`s a bit out of fashion. I doubt it`s gone for ever though.
One thing that would certainly bring is back is the introduction of a `double goal` if scored from outside the 25 yard line :D
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Wed 11 Sep 12:06
Is it not also to do with the changes in the balls. As the balls are lighter then more shots tend to go high of the target if struck well. It requires good technique and power to score, or a little help from the keeper.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 11 Sep 13:42
Could be that as well Geordiepar. I`m not sure what the data says, but the number of goals from direct free kicks seems to be way down as well. Maybe fewer fouls given away in shooting distance?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 11 Sep 14:18
The weight of a football has not changed since it was set at 14-16oz in 1937. I don`t think the prescribed circumference has changed either. It`s the materials and technology used to make modern balls which causes them to respond differently from previous ones.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Wed 11 Sep 14:21
For most teams these days possession is too important, you take a long shot and probably 9/10 times you`re giving the other team the ball... makes for a load of safe football, which can be interesting tactically sometimes but it`s changed days
I don`t know the stats but I`d guess there`s been less crosses in the last few years too
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Wed 11 Sep 14:22
I thinks it`s a lot to do with the stats based approach, players/coaches are aware of the low xG from shooting from range and therefore don`t try it. Same reason to not hit a free kick but pass it to someone else.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 11 Sep 16:17
Hitting a ball in movement with pace and direction is something that not many people can master. Plus it is really tiring thing to perfect it even emulate in training I.e. over and over again.
It was practiced much more during training sessions when I was younger but even then the number of players specialised in this was not high.
Plus you always have to go and get your ball if you make a horses backside of it 🤣
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 11 Sep 18:46
Quote:
Jealous Furniture, Wed 11 Sept 14:21
For most teams these days possession is too important, you take a long shot and probably 9/10 times you`re giving the other team the ball... makes for a load of safe football, which can be interesting tactically sometimes but it`s changed days
I don`t know the stats but I`d guess there`s been less crosses in the last few years too
Probably true. The reason watching football is becoming a truly boring experience these days. Players seem crippled by fear of trying something. It used to be a regular occurrence to see a bit of trickery, some show boating, some piece of exquisite skill. Even when it doesn`t come off, the joy of watching someone play with the freedom to express themselves on a pitch, was what I went to the match for.
Football, even at the top level, is just becoming so dull, people in great positions turn and pass back to their own goal just to retain possession. Even when the ball does end up in the net, the euphoria is dampened, a VAR check delay, then a half hearted cheer.
The game is dying
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Thu 12 Sep 09:36
Thanks for sharing that clip. Watched it 3 times and i still can`t decide which goal was best - maybe Scholes -something about the ball crashing down from the underside of the bar that underlines how unsaveable it was maybe.
Whilst flicking through the channels the other day I came across one of these Premierleague classics type rerun games - West Ham vs Spurs from 20 years or so ago. Wow, the game has changed, and not for the better. No long periods of possession, 2 teams going at each other full pelt, just more action, less sideways passing and more of a willingness to have a pop at goal. I`ve followed football for 40 years and that era was, for me, the sweet spot in terms of optimal quality and entertainment.
I blame Pep.
Post Edited (Thu 12 Sep 09:37)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 12 Sep 10:05
Quote:
1985Par, Thu 12 Sept 09:36
Thanks for sharing that clip. Watched it 3 times and i still can`t decide which goal was best - maybe Scholes -something about the ball crashing down from the underside of the bar that underlines how unsaveable it was maybe.
Whilst flicking through the channels the other day I came across one of these Premierleague classics type rerun games - West Ham vs Spurs from 20 years or so ago. Wow, the game has changed, and not for the better. No long periods of possession, 2 teams going at each other full pelt, just more action, less sideways passing and more of a willingness to have a pop at goal. I`ve followed football for 40 years and that era was, for me, the sweet spot in terms of optimal quality and entertainment.
I blame Pep.
Totally agree, nothing more annoying than wide player has the ball on the edge of the 18 years box ,one on one with the full back ,and passes the ball backwards next thing it`s with the keeper ,Pep ball get it in the bin .
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