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 Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 14:53

I was listening to The Big Football Podcast and was unaware Queens Park are moving to Lesser Hampden next season.

Capacity as it stands is just less than 1000.

What a turnaround at that club.

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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 15:15

So much better than being in Hampden with 49000 empty seats

C'mon Ye Pars!
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: Steve mcgregor  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 15:20

If they manage to stay up then moving to Lesser Hampden we might struggle for tickets
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: dpard  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 15:25

I`m led to believe that there are only 195 away spaces, as it currently stands, at lesser hampden.

The flame still burns
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 15:47

You would’ve thought that a Championship club should have a minimum capacity that they must have.

We would fill the whole stand along with a few others, shambles.

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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 16:23

Fans have been sold down the river by the financial backer, who isn’t even the owner.

Disgrace that the SPFL/SFA have even approved the ground for games as well.

And absolute shambles of a situation and even their fans believe the aim was to win promotion and use Hampden for games.
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 16:29

They could have developed Lesser Hampden to be a proper community stadium that could be used for QP games and maybe less exciting under 21s/18s games. Instead they have an absolutely rotten looking box in the middle of the stand.
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: pars no1  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 16:39

They moved there a couple of seasons ago. They are only using hampden while it is being refurbished. The SFA bought Hampden off them
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: McNaughton Scores!  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 18:39

It`s worth remembering that the SFA bought Hampden from Queens Park using money lent to them by Willie Haughey, who was/is Queens Park`s financial backer. All done to ensure that Scotland International games and the SFA stayed in Glasgow rather than the more sensible option of playing them at Murrayfield. He`ll ride off into the sunset with "job done" and not a care in the world if QP have a ground fit for purpose or not.

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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 19:02

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McNaughton Scores!, Tue 22 Apr 18:39

It`s worth remembering that the SFA bought Hampden from Queens Park using money lent to them by Willie Haughey, who was/is Queens Park`s financial backer. All done to ensure that Scotland International games and the SFA stayed in Glasgow rather than the more sensible option of playing them at Murrayfield. He`ll ride off into the sunset with "job done" and not a care in the world if QP have a ground fit for purpose or not.


Murrayfield the more sensible option? If you say so!
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 19:06

Murrayfield is better in terms of capacity, shape and location, but apart from that...
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: Buster_Brown  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 19:33

Murrayfield has the same problems as Hampden, I’m not sure it is a better location although I do like the fact it’s in our capital city and I do think that it makes sense to have a dual stadium. There was also the problem with office space, the SRU wouldn’t let the SFA use offices or keep the money from hospitality…..so there was more too it.

Anyway, this is about Queens Park and I think I it’s safe to say that the Queens Park supporters have been sold a duff with this. A “royal box” and a stand that’s no better than what has been built at the Meadowbank Stadium. They moved back to Hampden because it wasn’t fit for purpose but with the vulture capitalist now walking, the club have no other option than to use it.
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 19:55

Hopefully they can install temporary seating or a terrace behind the goal otherwise there`s going to be a lot of disappointed fans next season, especially away fans.

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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 20:48

They are no different to many - but that said - let’s do some simple arithmetic.
1000 fans x 20 home games x £20 a head = £400k
25 players averaging £600 a week for a year contract = £780k
That excludes manager coaches staff upkeep etc etc
Busted flush before the season begins.
And yes it’s a bit simplistic, not factoring in kids prices - concessions etc.

"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: Hunter78  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 21:18

Quote:

coventrypar, Tue 22 Apr 20:48

They are no different to many - but that said - let’s do some simple arithmetic.
1000 fans x 20 home games x £20 a head = £400k
25 players averaging £600 a week for a year contract = £780k
That excludes manager coaches staff upkeep etc etc
Busted flush before the season begins.
And yes it’s a bit simplistic, not factoring in kids prices - concessions etc.


You need to counter in VAT deductions, costs paid to ticket supplier etc. Works out around £7.50 per ticket nett per attendee, nowhere near £20!
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 Re: Queens Park and Lesser Hampden.
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Tue 22 Apr 21:32

Topic Originator: Hunter78 like
Date: Tue 22 Apr 21:18

You need to counter in VAT deductions, costs paid to ticket supplier etc. Works out around £7.50 per ticket nett per attendee, nowhere near £20!

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I said it was simple arithmetic - so while I think you have gone in one direction with ticket income and unrealistic - I went the other.... similarly unrealistic route. I think we can both agree Hunter, that even if it was somewhere in-between you have got to have a few million to lose or be crooked or unrealistic to own a football club !

And VAT works both ways - you claim back what you spend on costs against your income

And I think you will agree again - capping your crowd causes problems.

"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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