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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 26 Oct 18:33
1 Joshua McPake St. Johnstone App. 12 Goals 9
2 Andrew Tod Dunfermline Athletic 11 7
3= Ronan Hale Ross County 11 6
3= Findlay Marshall Arbroath 12 6
5=Josh Fowler Queen`s Park 9 5
5=Dylan Easton Raith Rovers 12 5
5=Euan Henderson Airdrieonians 12 5
5=Logan Chalmers Partick Thistle 12 5
9=James GullanSt. Johnstone 10 4
9=Mark McKenzie Ayr United 12 4
Could Andrew be the next Pars player to receive international recognition?
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Mon 27 Oct 02:15
Could be the next pars player to earn a big money move if the rumours about scouts from Brighton being at the game on Saturday watching him are true
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Mon 27 Oct 09:35
I really like A Tod. He`s surpassed my expectations massively, but I can`t believe he`s good enough for Brighton to come knocking.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 Oct 10:43
English Premiership clubs don`t recruit promising young players to go straight into their first teams. They`re looking for investment potential and AT has that.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 27 Oct 12:32
Brighton are owned by the same guy who part owns Hearts.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 Oct 12:52
Yeah, no doubt they`ll have done their Data Analysis work on AT!
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Mon 27 Oct 13:07
Does anyone think archie stevens was signed by arsenal to go straight into there 1st team
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 27 Oct 13:34
Seems possible to me.
Looking out for players below a certain age who are playing a decent proportion of a clubs first team games seems like an obvious measure to trigger further scouting/analysis.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 27 Oct 13:34
Would imagine Ronan Hale of Ross County will be on a few clubs radar!
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 27 Oct 13:51
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Mon 27 Oct 13:34
Would imagine Ronan Hale of Ross County will be on a few clubs radar!
He would collapse in a heap if he feel the radar touch him.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 Oct 14:04
Since the UK left the EU the EPL clubs have found it harder to sign promising talent from the Continent and have reverted to the UK market. A lot of young Scottish players have moved south `under the radar` without establishing themselves up here as they are offered much better financial terms and their clubs can share in that as well. Billy Gilmour and Ben Gannon-Doak are two high profile examples and, although neither `made it` initially, they`ve prospered ultimately.
An added attraction of someone like Andrew Tod is that he has had some experience of playing `men`s football` and it hasn`t fazed him.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Mon 27 Oct 14:50
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 27 Oct 14:04
Since the UK left the EU the EPL clubs have found it harder to sign promising talent from the Continent and have reverted to the UK market. A lot of young Scottish players have moved south `under the radar` without establishing themselves up here as they are offered much better financial terms and their clubs can share in that as well. Billy Gilmour and Ben Gannon-Doak are two high profile examples and, although neither `made it` initially, they`ve prospered ultimately.
An added attraction of someone like Andrew Tod is that he has had some experience of playing `men`s football` and it hasn`t fazed him.
Although your examples are well intenioned, both Gilmour and Gannon Doak moved down south at 16, with Gannon Doak actually having a couple of appearances for the Celtic first team
Andrew will be 20 in February and you would think won`t be in EPL clubs thinking of a player to be developed.
I would tend to think that any move away would be similar to Josh Edwards...
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 Oct 15:07
Josh Edwards was 24 when he joined Charlton so his case isn`t really similar to Andrew Tod`s either. My main point was that top English clubs are now more interested in the Scottish market than they were when they had easy access to the European market.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Mon 27 Oct 15:24
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 27 Oct 15:07
Josh Edwards was 24 when he joined Charlton so his case isn`t really similar to Andrew Tod`s either. My main point was that top English clubs are now more interested in the Scottish market than they were when they had easy access to the European market.
Josh Edwards was 20 years old ( maybe 19)when he started to play regularly for Dunfermline so my example is very similar
If you believe that Andrew is ready to play at that level after the low number of games he`s played for us, you`re totally entitled to that opinion
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 Oct 15:47
It`s good to know my examples were `well-intentioned` and that I`m `totally entitled to my opinion`. All I was saying (as were others) is that I`m not surprised an EPL club would be interested in him.
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Topic Originator: rikaka
Date: Mon 27 Oct 16:39
Epl clubs sign alot of younger player`s stick them in the under 23s and see if they can develop them. The cost to sign any of our 20 year olds on a 3 year deal will be pennies for them. Cast the net far and wide, bit of data to lead but ultimately through enough **** at the wall and something will stick
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Mon 27 Oct 16:44
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 27 Oct 15:47
It`s good to know my examples were `well-intentioned` and that I`m `totally entitled to my opinion`. All I was saying (as were others) is that I`m not surprised an EPL club would be interested in him.
As they should be, why would you think they weren`t??
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 Oct 17:01
I didn`t! I think you`re going round in circles.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Mon 27 Oct 17:07
No, just picking up the use of quotation marks in a different way from the way you must be meaning them.....
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Mon 27 Oct 18:15
It`s far from the first time that a decent thread on this forum has descended into an argument about something only tangentially related to the original topic, but it`s probably the first time this new argument has been about quotation marks ... :(
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 27 Oct 18:19
In future maybe I`ll follow the example of some on here and use no punctuation marks at all!
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Mon 27 Oct 18:45
Quote:
Stanza, Mon 27 Oct 18:15
It`s far from the first time that a decent thread on this forum has descended into an argument about something only tangentially related to the original topic, but it`s probably the first time this new argument has been about quotation marks ... :(
Apologies Stanza, I mistakenly thought i was about to enter into a healthy debate regarding the merits of how feasible the idea of Andrew Tod maybe having the possibility of making a move down south to an EPL team.
It does seem that my counter to the examples that were given has seem to be seen as a slight to the previous post.
This was not my intention and then the use of quotation marks to highlight certain remarks I had made on my posts was mistakenly taken by myself as an assumption that the poster was trying to make a sarcastic reply, for which I tried to explain when accused of going round in circles....
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Mon 27 Oct 18:52
I’m generally amazed at the lo-balling of Andrew Tod’s ability by a number on here. I think he’s exceptionally talented and if managed properly could have a huge future. For example I compare him to a couple of Manchester United loanees both strikers of similar age Joe Hugill a striker currently at Barnet, 2 appearances and no goals, he played 16 times for bottom of the league Carlisle last season, scored twice. Ethan Wheatley who’s with Northampton Town 14 games he’s scored two goals Not dissimilar standard of clubs and neither ripping up trees. Either of them would cost c£1.5 to £3m if you wanted to sign them today. It’s no wonder AT is attracting attention he’s playing big boys football and hitting the net regularly he’s bound to be on the radar of big clubs.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 27 Oct 18:55
Would a club like Brighton & Hove Albion be interested in a player like Andrew Tod Jr?
Absolutely.
I don`t think there is an argument to be had here. He wouldn`t be anywhere close to their first team at the moment, but clubs in the English Premier League have plenty of money to go around. They can have him in their Under 23 side for a couple of seasons and then out on loan. With improved training, conditioning, who knows what the young lad could turn into.
I remember seeing him play as a 17 year old, and thinking then "he`ll play for a Scotland". The last time I remember thinking that about a Pars player, it was the 18 year old Jackie McNamara. He went on to have a great career, and I would say Andrew has more potential
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Mon 27 Oct 19:05
They better get the cheque book out! Club should demand a big transfer fee for our prized asset.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Mon 27 Oct 19:10
Am I correct in thinking that he`s a diehard Pars fan? If so then hopefully he signs a nice long contract so nobody can buy him on the cheap. Another couple of seasons at East End Park first though, giving him a chance to further improve and raise that transfer fee.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 27 Oct 20:18
I’m not surprised by 3 things here.
1 an argument
2 who’s involved and claiming that they are somehow being misrepresented or they’re not allowed to blah blah blah 😂😂😂 every time 🤷🏻♂️
3 A Tod drawing attention from bigger clubs. He’s certainly talented. He needs a lot of work but he’s talented. Off the ball needs to improve a lot. I think a full season under Neil Lennon would do him a lot of good. Would be good for the club to keep him this and next season as I think his worth will grow.
COYP
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Mon 27 Oct 20:40
Haven`t we signed both Tods up for another 2 or 3 years? I thought we had, if so then it can only be good for everyone.
Both have been fantastic, I thought Andrew would get a few games before going on loan for more experience ,but he`s blown that away. John, I think NL is managing him well, he`s a real player, but I think we`re doing well not to over expose him, again he`s an exciting prospect.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Mon 27 Oct 20:58
Quote:
neils, Mon 27 Oct 20:40
Haven`t we signed both Tods up for another 2 or 3 years? I thought we had, if so then it can only be good for everyone.
Both have been fantastic, I thought Andrew would get a few games before going on loan for more experience ,but he`s blown that away. John, I think NL is managing him well, he`s a real player, but I think we`re doing well not to over expose him, again he`s an exciting prospect.
Both are signed until Summer 2027.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Mon 27 Oct 21:06
I hope Tod is with us for a while yet. For me he’s the most exciting prospect we’ve had since Faissel , whose career, I know, didn’t come to much, but he didn’t half light the place up for a year. After seasons of turgid, stale football it’s nice to have a player who’s genuinely exciting to watch and can both make and take chances.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Mon 27 Oct 21:42
New contract until 2030 please and thank you, with a big fat release clause.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Mon 27 Oct 21:42
Quote:
1985Par, Mon 27 Oct 21:06
I hope Tod is with us for a while yet. For me he’s the most exciting prospect we’ve had since Faissel , whose career, I know, didn’t come to much, but he didn’t half light the place up for a year. After seasons of turgid, stale football it’s nice to have a player who’s genuinely exciting to watch and can both make and take chances.
I have to agree. It actually feels like a bus though, wait for one and a two arrive 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Tue 28 Oct 10:14
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 27 Oct 12:52
Yeah, no doubt they`ll have done their Data Analysis work on AT!
Yeah they do it on every player. McInnes mentioned end of last week regarding East Kilbride players.
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 28 Oct 16:59
Getting back on track but interesting seeing that list as only a couple of names there that you would class as strikers.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 28 Oct 17:17
Only St Johnstone have two players in the top ten and Morton are the only club not represented.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 28 Oct 19:21
Clubs are bound to be interested in players who are able to score goals. At his age, and number of goals this season, playing 1st team football, he`s bound to attract attention
G Wardrope
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