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 Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 20:03

Ferencvaros 2-1 Rangers
Celtic 0-3 Roma
Aberdeen 0-1 Strasbourg

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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 Re: Europa and Conference League
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 20:48

Celtic getting pumped.

And now miss a penalty. This is embarrassing stuff from Celtic.

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 Re: Europa and Conference League
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 20:56

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jake89, Thu 11 Dec 20:48

Celtic getting pumped.

And now miss a penalty. This is embarrassing stuff from Celtic.


They’re rotten tonight. A very difficult job trying to implement a new system mid-season, an Old Firm manager won’t see a lot of patience either. He might not last long.
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 Re: Europa and Conference League
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 21:07

Stevie Robinson has got to get his team up for Sunday now. If they cant win the trophy then it would be classed as bad now 😂
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 Re: Europa and Conference League
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 21:20

Only getting beat 6-1 on aggregate tonight🤔. A slight improvement on some recent European nights? To be frank, we`re in the dark ages of Scottish football.

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 Re: Europa and Conference League
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 21:23

I wonder if Martin O`Neill still has his stuff in his suitcase....
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 Re: Europa and Conference League
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 21:24

The board have obviously made a decision to replace O`Neill now (maybe to give Nancy a good look at the squad before the January window opens?). Although it`s still very early days the signs are not good.

Hindsight is obviously great but it probably would have made sense to hold off until after Hearts, Roma and St Mirren (league cup final) were out of the way, to then replace O`Neill. Their run after that looks a little easier.

Maybe the board thought an `easy` cup final win would be a good start to any new managers spell.

I`ll always root for the smaller teams so I hope this change and poor form continues and helps St Mirren absolutely smash them...
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 Re: Europa and Conference League
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 21:56

Rangers and Aberdeen out (I think?)

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy  
Date:   Thu 11 Dec 22:05

Caught segments of the Rangers and Celtic games. Rangers made a fist of their game and seem to be improving under their new manager. Celtic seemed to want to play "hospital passes" with little or no evidence of new manager bounce.

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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 12 Dec 09:56

Nancy is the first Celtic manager to have lost his first two games in charge. Last night was only the second time Celtic had lost three goals at home in the first half in a European tie and the first was the earliest they had lost a goal at home in Europe. Not a great start!
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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 12 Dec 13:25

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wee eck, Fri 12 Dec 09:56

Nancy is the first Celtic manager to have lost his first two games in charge. Last night was only the second time Celtic had lost three goals at home in the first half in a European tie and the first was the earliest they had lost a goal at home in Europe. Not a great start![/quote.

Goodnight Vienna now replaced with Arrivederci Roma ? 🤭
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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 12 Dec 14:05

He seems to be one of the game`s philosophers, a bit like Marcelo Bielsa. I`m not sure that`s what Celtic need right now.

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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Fri 12 Dec 16:09

It`s not just Celtic, though, is it? The performance of all our teams in Europe has been abysmal, and not for the first time.

It`s true that clubs from many European countries have improved significantly, but Scottish football has been going backwards for years. Growing up in the 60s, a tie v a Scandinavian club was as good as a bye into the next round. Now, even Celtic and Rangers struggle to overcome teams from Luxembourg, Armenia, and Andorra.



Not your average Sunday League player.
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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: adj27  
Date:   Fri 12 Dec 17:21

I think Wim Jansen lost his first two games, the second of which was against us.

Andy
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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 12 Dec 17:47

According to `Fitba Stats` Wim Jansen`s first two games as Celtic manager were in the UEFA Cup and they won both. His first two league games were against Hibs and the Pars and they lost both of them.

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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Fri 12 Dec 21:03

I don’t follow Celtic that closely, but it seems that one issue they have is that they want European success and in the pursuit of that they are in danger of compromising their domestic superiority. Perhaps they feel that they can win 2 trophies a season no matter what, especially since Rangers seem to have difficulty recruiting the right players and managers.

Meanwhile their fans expect to win every weekend and losing two in a row is something of a crisis.

(There are also potential conflicts between the need to satisfy shareholders, the concentration of ownership, and the continual problems posed by the insistence of some fans in imposing a political dimension onto a football club).

It seems that to do well in Europe Celtic feel they have to make changes and that the best way is to adopt a more modern, sophisticated, dare I say “foreign” coaching approach. This has been tried before and has not always been successful.

Imposition of changes in the style of play can take a while to bed in – it’s like trying to make changes to your golf swing by going for lessons. It’s almost inevitable that things get worse before you get better, and it is very tempting to go back to the old (flawed) ways rather than persevere as you hack your way round the course. Fine if you are happy dittering about in midtable for a while, not fine if you are expected to win all the time. This makes Nancy’s appointment surprising if he were insistent on making radical changes. Is this a risk the board were willing to take or did they think now was the time as Hearts’ bubble would burst and Rangers had their own problems?

For other teams, I think European qualification is a mixed blessing. I’ve done no analysis, but I suspect that teams that occasionally qualify often struggle domestically – they are required to play 2 different styles of football, they are constantly having to fly to and from Kazakhstan or wherever, play different teams, adopt unusual tactics, eat different food, then come back a bit tired and have to play on Sunday lunchtime. (And they don’t get the gentle league cup warm-ups). It’s difficult to get a rhythm going.

But I am looking forward to the media’s attempts at pronouncing French names – they struggled with the relatively simple Clement.

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 Re: Europa and Conference League FT
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sat 13 Dec 00:33

I`m sure I read somewhere that ONeill said he would have quite happily stayed until the end of the season.
But , I`m very wary of social media and I don`t believe 99% of what I read on it.
Can anyone confirm or deny that is what he said ?

I don`t even know who this new manager they`ve brought in is but I`m not exactly up to date with the worlds managerial roundabout these days .

What`s the chances of ONeill being asked to come back ?
He still has his club training gear I hear lol

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