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Topic Originator: auldpar
Date: Fri 16 Jan 12:30
... are all on Trump`s banned list for Visas. Maybe we`ll go through by default?đ
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Fri 16 Jan 12:34
UK residents require a Visa for the USA as do most from other nations.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: auldpar
Date: Fri 16 Jan 12:57
Yes, I know. It`s called an ESTA but the UK isn`t on the list of 75 countries that Trump has decided are not allowed visas. These 3 countries are.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 16 Jan 13:28
Quote:
auldpar, Fri 16 Jan 12:57
Yes, I know. It`s called an ESTA but the UK isn`t on the list of 75 countries that Trump has decided are not allowed visas. These 3 countries are.
Should be plenty of tickets for the 3 Scotland games then ?
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Fri 16 Jan 13:33
Just awful, was thinking that this would be the WC where I don`t watch every match, but it might be the one where I lose interest in it (apart from Scotland) it`s the first WC that I won`t be working for 20 years, just don`t want to
As for the countries, there is a massive Haitian population in U.S. but also throughout the Caribbean. The U.S. population are under heavy scrutiny - the Caribe Haitians won`t dare. This is a huge tournament for Morocco, and to deny fans goes against the whole spirit.
This WC and Trump, just gets worse every day
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Topic Originator: davepars
Date: Fri 16 Jan 13:55
"The suspension will only affect foreign citizens seeking to immigrate to the US via sponsorship by a US citizen, an immediate relative who is lawfully and permanently residing in the US, or prospective US employers.
It does not apply to nationals from the list of countries seeking non-immigrant visas, or temporary tourist or business visas."
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Topic Originator: auldpar
Date: Fri 16 Jan 14:07
OK. My original post was tongue in cheek but there is a full ban on Haiti and some other countries are expected to have only a slim chance. I think Ivory Coast has a full ban too.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Fri 16 Jan 14:10
Yes, but with ICE taking over cities, and randomly pulling out randomly various ethnicities, and deporting in a large scale, I think if you are from any of these countries, you are under a lot of risk.
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Topic Originator: davepars
Date: Fri 16 Jan 15:20
I fancied going, but didn`t fancy being shot for jaywalking after a beverage or 2 so giving it a miss.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Fri 16 Jan 15:56
I think folk should think seriously about going to the USA. Especially if they have any dark skin tone.
It really is bad. The Trump gestapo are out of control.
I certainly would stay sober.
There are going to be some alterations with ICE without a doubt, and some may well prove fatal.
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Fri 16 Jan 16:51
I agree with comments already made.
I lived and worked in the USA for several years. Sadly, my view is that the USA has become a rogue state. If you are thinking about going to the World Cup, realize you could end up on the wrong side of an ICE agent and his gun.
If you do go, avoid the bevvy before, during, and after a game. You need to be mentally alert to make the right decisions about any situation involving crowds and ICE agents.
I think Scotland should withdraw.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 16 Jan 17:03
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 16 Jan 15:56
I think folk should think seriously about going to the USA. Especially if they have any dark skin tone.
It really is bad. The Trump gestapo are out of control.
I certainly would stay sober.
There are going to be some alterations with ICE without a doubt, and some may well prove fatal.
You do realise skin colour has nothing to do with it? You know there have been white folk deported back to Eastern Europe because they over stayed their work visas? Some by like 20 years.
Overstaying visas was a bit of an unspoken norm. Just keep paying taxes and you wonât be deported type of thing. Obviously though, there is enough of a political movement where theyâre now deporting everyone whoâs involved. Itâs not skin colour dependent.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 16 Jan 17:38
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 16 Jan 17:03
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 16 Jan 15:56
I think folk should think seriously about going to the USA. Especially if they have any dark skin tone.
It really is bad. The Trump gestapo are out of control.
I certainly would stay sober.
There are going to be some alterations with ICE without a doubt, and some may well prove fatal.
You do realise skin colour has nothing to do with it? You know there have been white folk deported back to Eastern Europe because they over stayed their work visas? Some by like 20 years.
Overstaying visas was a bit of an unspoken norm. Just keep paying taxes and you wonât be deported type of thing. Obviously though, there is enough of a political movement where theyâre now deporting everyone whoâs involved. Itâs not skin colour dependent.
They`ve also abducted legal US citizens. Let`s not sugar coat what those thugs are doing. Fascist scum
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Fri 16 Jan 17:54
They`ve also abducted legal US citizens. Let`s not sugar coat what those thugs are doing. Fascist scum
Don`t forget the mother who was murdered and then had her corpse insulted by one of their Y`all-Qaeda guys.
Or that the rest of the rabble is protecting the murderer.
This is not tourist friendly and not a suitable location for a world cup.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 16 Jan 17:55
Quote:
MinnesotaAndy, Fri 16 Jan 16:51
I agree with comments already made.
I lived and worked in the USA for several years. Sadly, my view is that the USA has become a rogue state. If you are thinking about going to the World Cup, realize you could end up on the wrong side of an ICE agent and his gun.
If you do go, avoid the bevvy before, during, and after a game. You need to be mentally alert to make the right decisions about any situation involving crowds and ICE agents.
I think Scotland should withdraw.
Andy, I donât agree that America is a ârogue stateâ I donât think something is off though. I donât think itâs all trump either but I do think if Trump is the best youâve got⊠đ„Ž
Since you lived there for years, what do you think it is? Iâve watched their news outlets and I donât know if thatâs a symptom or a cause? Or even just part of the cause? Like CNN and MSNBC have wild leftie takes and Fox has wild right takes. That Tucker Carlson may make the odd good point but some of his views are wild. Just as wild as the Young Turks on the other side đ€·đ»ââïž all seems crazy
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 16 Jan 17:59
Quote:
Andrew283, Fri 16 Jan 17:38
Quote:
NMCmassive, Fri 16 Jan 17:03
Quote:
PARrot, Fri 16 Jan 15:56
I think folk should think seriously about going to the USA. Especially if they have any dark skin tone.
It really is bad. The Trump gestapo are out of control.
I certainly would stay sober.
There are going to be some alterations with ICE without a doubt, and some may well prove fatal.
You do realise skin colour has nothing to do with it? You know there have been white folk deported back to Eastern Europe because they over stayed their work visas? Some by like 20 years.
Overstaying visas was a bit of an unspoken norm. Just keep paying taxes and you wonât be deported type of thing. Obviously though, there is enough of a political movement where theyâre now deporting everyone whoâs involved. Itâs not skin colour dependent.
They`ve also abducted legal US citizens. Let`s not sugar coat what those thugs are doing. Fascist scum
The language youâre using is extreme. Abducted = wrongfully detained. There has been extreme cases that dragged into years but that guy was released and is now suing so hopefully he gets a pay out.
Edit: trust me to miss a word eh!
COYP
Post Edited (Fri 16 Jan 19:06)
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 16 Jan 18:56
It`s a crap country, No way should the World Cup be in such a backwards place
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Fri 16 Jan 19:09
You never seen the videos of Americans who visit Europe and end up saying itâs nothing like how I thought, what you see online and in the news isnât what itâs really like here etc etc
Iâm pretty sure weâd have a similar reaction to visiting America.
Disneyland and all that jazz to side btw
COYP
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