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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 20 Feb 18:35
Live tonight on BBC Scotland, iplayer and BBC Sport website and app
Programme starts at 7.30pm
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Fri 20 Feb 21:39)
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Topic Originator: stevemac
Date: Fri 20 Feb 20:02
That double miss from the saints has to be the worst ever😂😂😂😂
I`m sure that will go viral😂
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Fri 20 Feb 20:40
Just switched it on and saw it, wow 😂😂
Loving You, Is In My DNA 🇾🇪
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 20 Feb 20:48
I’m aboot falling asleep with this match.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Fri 20 Feb 20:48
That is an exceptional miss. Well done to both of them 👏 👏
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Topic Originator: par58
Date: Fri 20 Feb 20:56
I am in no way a Rovers fan, but I have to say they have been very poorly served by the referee who seems to favour St J at every turn.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Fri 20 Feb 21:33
This game is terrible. Raith have done absolutely nothing second half. Saints hardly any better.
Josh Fowler with another stinking performance.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 20 Feb 21:39
I should have gone for ma bath 90 mins ago
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 20 Feb 21:44
Absolutely boring game , But Raith pick up a point so we are down to 7th
So I am hoping tomorrow we get a reaction from the team after us putting up with the crap played in the last 2 games .(but i won`t hold my breath )because we just do not know these days if the players will turn up
Apart from that we need the Points
Post Edited (Fri 20 Feb 21:47)
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 20 Feb 21:50
Quote:
wulliepar57, Fri 20 Feb 21:44
Absolutely boring game , But Raith pick up a point so we are down to 7th
So I am hoping tomorrow we get a reaction from the team after us putting up with the crap played in the last 2 games .(but i won`t hold my breath )because we just do not know these days if the players will turn up
Apart from that we need the Points
We have 3 games in hand on Raith Granted they still have to be won
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 20 Feb 22:23
This must be the football equivalent of watching paint dry !!!
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 20 Feb 22:25
Hi rigger
Agree we have games in hand ! One of our last games in hand we got beat , and to be honest I thought the team knowing win and we are in top 4 , so as you rightly say we cannot count our chickens before they are hatched !
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 20 Feb 22:32
Quote:
wulliepar57, Fri 20 Feb 22:25
Hi rigger
Agree we have games in hand ! One of our last games in hand we got beat , and to be honest I thought the team knowing win and we are in top 4 , so as you rightly say we cannot count our chickens before they are hatched !
We can only hope mate
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 20 Feb 22:49
BBC Scotland loves to talk up these Championship games but some of them have been dire viewing.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 20 Feb 23:20
I am like you rigger always live in hope !
when we don`t win im not a happy bunny , even all the cats around where i live go into hiding ,
But hey that`s what we pars supporters just have to endure we all live in Hope
so I`m hoping we turn up and win tomorrow as we must be due a win ! Also hopng we are set up better and Kane starts , putting him on when we are chasing a game in my opinion is really too late ! but I am not NL and it`s up to him
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sat 21 Feb 00:28
Absolutely get the lack of confidence from everybody.
I`ve been peed off with the last two games and the games prior to the Rovers win. Find myself questioning Lennon and our team.
I do think the next two weeks are pivitol. I have faith in the team still. We have shown we`re capable. We`ve beaten some good teams. Maybe 7 points out of 12 would be fine right now.
Lennon needs to set-up more front foot against certain teams. He`s disappoionted me to be honest. The team are still quite boring, after he stated a year ago we would be more attacking.
Lennon has had a lot of cash since then. We need some older heads in the club down the spine of the team. That`s got to be next years plan while we`re still in this league.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 21 Feb 07:13
Absolutely Bertie, we’re back to wandering where the next goal is coming from nevermind the next point!
If you take the Arbroath (5 goals) and airdrie (4 goals) games out of it we’ve only scored 20 goals in the other 21 games.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 21 Feb 09:25
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 21 Feb 07:13
Absolutely Bertie, we’re back to wandering where the next goal is coming from nevermind the next point!
If you take the Arbroath (5 goals) and airdrie (4 goals) games out of it we’ve only scored 20 goals in the other 21 games.
Yep, and Cacares featured in a chunk of those 9 goals. We need a spark.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 21 Feb 09:28
Discounting the two highest-scoring perfomances of the season isn`t going to help us improve. I wonder what the league would look like if you did that for all the teams? You can`t be any more negative than that but, to be honest, I`m not surprised as it`s coming from a poster who admitted his interest in the forum is only sparked when things are going badly.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 21 Feb 09:44
While I don’t understand his point about taking your high scoring games out of the equation, he does have a point that since we lost Barney, we’ve really been starved of goals. Kane clearly can’t play any sort of consistent game time, and he seems to be the only one who can score at the moment.
Tod is a tough one. I’m sure Lennon would love to rest him for a few games to let him recharge and reset, but unfortunately we can’t as we’re short of players who can cope at this level.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
Post Edited (Sat 21 Feb 09:44)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 21 Feb 10:54
Re goalscoring, Barney wasn`t even at the club when we scored five at Arbroath and he was absent injured when we scored four at Airdrie so you can hardly attribute the lack of goals to his departure. Maybe Rusty S has a point about Caceres. The team seemed to move more smoothly when he played.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 21 Feb 11:48
It`s totally legitimate in statistics to remove outliers, just not in a small sample or to do it to tell the story you want to. In this case I`d say it`s fair as 23 games is not a particularly small sample and there are clear outliers .
Using a `median goals scored` might be fairer but I expect the result would be the same (as excluding those two outlying big wins and looking at the mean).
If you were to talk about `average goals conceded` or `goal difference` then it would be equally fair to exclude extremes of conceded goals.
I wonder how this goal scoring record compares to Tidser/McPakes time? The personnel seems different but the style similar.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 21 Feb 12:21
I thought when you removed outliers from a sample you did so at both ends of the sample? Thankfully, outliers won`t be eliminated when the final League positions are resolved so it`s all a bit academic. It just seems to me to be so negative to ignore the two best performances in assessing the season to date.
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sat 21 Feb 12:34
I think the relevant point is that there are no outliers at the other end of the sample - scoring 0 or 1 is normal.
On that miss, it was also comical that the linesman didn`t think Fowler was offside when the ball hit him on the line. Nothing happened as a result but it`s an incredible decision.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 21 Feb 12:34
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 21 Feb 10:54
Re goalscoring, Barney wasn`t even at the club when we scored five at Arbroath and he was absent injured when we scored four at Airdrie so you can hardly attribute the lack of goals to his departure. Maybe Rusty S has a point about Caceres. The team seemed to move more smoothly when he played.
Of course you can. He’s played 12 games in all competitions and is still our second highest goalscorer. Tod is in the top four up front, albeit having played more than double the number of games. Then there’s Chris Kane and MacLeod, who aren’t even regular starters in our starting 11.
As Berkey said, and as the stats show we don’t score enough goals to go on a consistent run of positive results. We’re fifth in total goals scored, with 29 goals from 23 games. We average just 1.09 goals per game at home, while away from home we’re the secondbhighest scorers with 17 goals from 12 games 1.42 per game.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
Post Edited (Sat 21 Feb 12:35)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 21 Feb 12:59
One thing I`d add to what I said above about outliers - we haven`t finished a league game having scored 3 goals so the 4 and 5 goal wins somewhat stand alone.
Hopefully today changes that!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 21 Feb 13:23
I`d love you guys to be in the changing room motivating the players. Would you tell them to forget about the best performances and quote stats at them? Barney may be a miss but the fact is we scored goals without him. Surely you must have a theory as to why that is the case? He only came because Rudden got injured at Perth and Falkirk were happy for us to get him match fit, so any success was always going to be a `windfall`. It`s Sod`s Law that Rudden then picked up another nasty injury.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 21 Feb 14:02
Cacares......don`t you mean former fans favourite "Jeffy" Eck?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 21 Feb 14:19
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 21 Feb 13:23
I`d love you guys to be in the changing room motivating the players. Would you tell them to forget about the best performances and quote stats at them? Barney may be a miss but the fact is we scored goals without him. Surely you must have a theory as to why that is the case? He only came because Rudden got injured at Perth and Falkirk were happy for us to get him match fit, so any success was always going to be a `windfall`. It`s Sod`s Law that Rudden then picked up another nasty injury.
Ah, the old if you were in the changing room patter wheeled out again, I see, Eck. Some things never change. The stats don’t lie and goals win games. We need more players chipping in with goals.
We needed an unreliable Chris Kane to pull us out of jail against bottom of League One Kelty and couldn’t manage a shot on target against Morton on Tuesday. Surely even you can see we’re not efficient enough at the top end of the park?
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 21 Feb 14:28
Where did I say we were? My point is that we have scored goals without Barney and have to find the way to do that again.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 21 Feb 14:38
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wee eck, Sat 21 Feb 14:28
Where did I say we were? My point is that we have scored goals without Barney and have to find the way to do that again.
During Barney’s time with us, he missed two league games, the one you mentioned and the 1–0 defeat to Partick.
Since Stewart left, we’ve played five matches (including two cup games). We’ve scored four goals and lost four in those games. Half of those goals were against League One strugglers, and we’ve also suffered two 2–0 defeats to teams currently below us in the table.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
Post Edited (Sat 21 Feb 16:24)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 21 Feb 14:52
I don`t see how that changes what I posted at 14:28.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 21 Feb 15:01
You can lead a horse to water....
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 21 Feb 15:58
What 4 games have we lost since Stewart left?
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sat 21 Feb 16:09
Was meant to be in those games edited now.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sat 21 Feb 16:15
Half of the five games were against League 1 strugglers?
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