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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Sun 17 May 09:25
Otherwise we’re likely to see pitch invasion, intimidation of players and no further SFA action.
And that’s whether we’re winning 5-0 or they’ve scored a dodgy last minute winner.
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sun 17 May 10:34
The pitch invasion is fine if that was all it was, but it`s the confrontation or abuse of the opposing team that crosses a line for me.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 17 May 11:10
Its never going to happen, so no point in trying 🤷🏻♂️ they could attack Doncaster in the stadium and they’d get away with it
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Sun 17 May 11:22
Cocaine and football are a dangerous combination.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Topic Originator: cfad
Date: Sun 17 May 11:24
Basically every single club supporter across the UK other than Celtic fans will be cheering us on next weekend
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 17 May 11:29
"The pitch invasion is fine if that was all it was, but it`s the confrontation or abuse of the opposing team that crosses a line for me."
It`s not fine, fans should not be on the pitch - period.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sun 17 May 11:45
If football authorities are not going to deal with this issue directly, when will the government step in, as we, the taxpayer have to support injured officers who are only doing their job, will miss work, NHS costs, city clean up, etc. so tired of the excuses and ignorance of the clubs attitude to this behaviour.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 17 May 11:51
I have a plan. We knock in an early goal. Everyone invades the pitch, smacks a Maeda or someone in the face. Full time is blown. We win the cup.
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Sun 17 May 12:00
the SFA are too scared of either of the old firm. if hearts had done it then they would have had a statement out by now. The prague derby was a similar situation. they club has been docked points and no longer won the league
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Sun 17 May 12:06
Looks like Scotland adopting rules on length of a game, FT cos not like hearts would score, was essentially what O’Neill said - although I suspect he will have forgotten he said that. He also confirmed 4th official said 1 minute to go, so ref ended game early which is abandonment. Rumours he blew
FT no he never but that’s what league will say. That’s ibrox did park and again today similar behaviours by Celtic and media almost ignore it, if this were teams
Outside of Celtic rangers they would be hammered, we all know it.
Hopefully every team in league ban Celtic fans from all away games due fo safety for players and officials and other fans, 70year women assaulted by Celtic fan at Motherwell game, protecting grandson being attacked by 7 Celtic fans.. every week this happens, same 2 teams.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Sun 17 May 12:08
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 17 May 11:29
"The pitch invasion is fine if that was all it was, but it`s the confrontation or abuse of the opposing team that crosses a line for me."
It`s not fine, fans should not be on the pitch - period.
Correct
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 17 May 12:10
Quote:
SeasonedPar, Sun 17 May 09:25
Otherwise we’re likely to see pitch invasion, intimidation of players and no further SFA action.
And that’s whether we’re winning 5-0 or they’ve scored a dodgy last minute winner.
I`m sure your post is very tongue in cheek, SP, and you know very well there`s no chance of that happening. Those running our game can hide behind the rules. Celtic fans invaded the pitch in a Premiership game, which comes under the jurisdiction of the SPFL. The Scottish Cup is a competition run by the SFA, so the SPFL can`t ban any club from it.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sun 17 May 12:15
In the old days, after a goal the kick off had to be taken before the game ended.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Sun 17 May 12:17
Quote:
WarringtonPar, Sun 17 May 12:08
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 17 May 11:29
"The pitch invasion is fine if that was all it was, but it`s the confrontation or abuse of the opposing team that crosses a line for me."
It`s not fine, fans should not be on the pitch - period.
Correct
Especially before the final whistle.
Stewards clearly can’t prevent pitch invasions, so Celtic should be forced to install fencing or play games behind closed doors.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Sun 17 May 12:28
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 17 May 12:10
Quote:
SeasonedPar, Sun 17 May 09:25
Otherwise we’re likely to see pitch invasion, intimidation of players and no further SFA action.
And that’s whether we’re winning 5-0 or they’ve scored a dodgy last minute winner.
I`m sure your post is very tongue in cheek, SP, and you know very well there`s no chance of that happening. Those running our game can hide behind the rules. Celtic fans invaded the pitch in a Premiership game, which comes under the jurisdiction of the SPFL. The Scottish Cup is a competition run by the SFA, so the SPFL can`t ban any club from it.
I know there’s no chance, GG, but everyone in the country now solidly behind the Pars. That includes some decent cellic fans who’re equally fed up with the board, it’s poor decisions, the association with corruption and the dreadful behaviour of those morons.
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Topic Originator: par-ticular
Date: Sun 17 May 12:48
Up until yesterday I was quite looking forward to taking my 2 grandsons and my son to Hampden. Hoping for a fun day and maybe a Pars win. I’m now worried about being subjected to abuse and possibly having to run the gauntlet of Celtic fans, if it doesn’t go their way ( or even if it does).
The display yesterday actually sickens me., knowing the Powers that be will air brush it away, using let’s focus on the national team and get behind them ****.
I’ve been watching football for over 70 years, all over the continent never really worried about going to matches.
I Spoke to my son today and he echoed my thoughts wish we weren’t going, but for the sake of my grandkids seeing their team in a cup final.
Am I alone ?
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sun 17 May 13:07
It does make you apprehensive, after watching that yesterday.Can’t blame our fans for that.But I am not going to let some idiotic behaviour from a few,to stop me watching my team in a final.Just hope police are on their toes.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 17 May 13:26
"Stewards clearly can’t prevent pitch invasions, so Celtic should be forced to install fencing or play games behind closed doors."
Indeed - next Hearts visit to Parkhead behind closed doors - likewise Celtic`s at Ibrox in response to the cup semi final nonsense.
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Topic Originator: par58
Date: Sun 17 May 13:32
Quote:
parsmad68, Sun 17 May 11:45
If football authorities are not going to deal with this issue directly, when will the government step in, as we, the taxpayer have to support injured officers who are only doing their job, will miss work, NHS costs, city clean up, etc. so tired of the excuses and ignorance of the clubs attitude to this behaviour.
I wholeheartedly agree that the Scottish Government should step in and hold the SFA and therefore the clubs to account, but I anticipate no action apart from some soundbites condemning the behavior. The whole system is rigged from the league set up to the disgraceful behaviour of old firm fans. As long as these two teams play in Scotland the system is only there to advance them and their pernicious aims and behaviours. How great it would be if clubs banded together set up a new league structure and excluded the old firm, pie in the sky I know, but one can dream. We need to be safe on Sarurday but increasingly I detect many fans admitting to not looking forward to the cup final and having to share a stadium with these people, and that is a terrible shame.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sun 17 May 13:44
It was the footage on the bbc Scotland news yesterday of the hearts players getting off the team bus back at Tynecastle still wearing their strips that got me. They weren’t able to get changed in the dressing room at Celtic park or do any post match media work because of infringement by fans.
That’s completely unacceptable.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Sun 17 May 14:11
My guess is they were but chose not to. It wouldn’t have been difficult to lock the changing room door while they got showered, then escort them to the bus(as they did anyway). I think it’s all optics from hearts to pile pressure on Celtic.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Sun 17 May 14:28
So I have a ticket and transport for the final, but after seeing that and the aftermath of yesterday, coupled with the bother of the last few games, I find myself dreading the game. I can’t see us getting a result and, with the almost certainty of sectarian bile and ending up getting a kicking after the game, I’m left questioning whether it’s worth it.
The day will probably be spoiled by them, and thinking about the game (which I had been looking forward to) now makes me wonder if I could do without the hassle. I will end up going to be there and support the team, but at what cost?
Like other pars supporters, I’ll be there with family members who don’t usually go to many games. It feels spoiled before it has even started by the cancerous Weegies.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Swisspar
Date: Sun 17 May 14:39
Quote:
dafc, Sun 17 May 12:06
Looks like Scotland adopting rules on length of a game, FT cos not like hearts would score, was essentially what O’Neill said - although I suspect he will have forgotten he said that. He also confirmed 4th official said 1 minute to go, so ref ended game early which is abandonment. Rumours he blew
FT no he never but that’s what league will say. That’s ibrox did park and again today similar behaviours by Celtic and media almost ignore it, if this were teams
Outside of Celtic rangers they would be hammered, we all know it.
Hopefully every team in league ban Celtic fans from all away games due fo safety for players and officials and other fans, 70year women assaulted by Celtic fan at Motherwell game, protecting grandson being attacked by 7 Celtic fans.. every week this happens, same 2 teams.
They also invaded the pitch against Motherwell on Wednesday.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 17 May 15:07
I can see now what is going to happen at the final
We win the cup .. Then ushered straight up the tunnel with no celebration/lap of honour in case the best fans in the world invade again .. Same as in 68
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 17 May 15:13
Quote:
Buspasspar, Sun 17 May 15:07
I can see now what is going to happen at the final
We win the cup .. Then ushered straight up the tunnel with no celebration/lap of honour in case the best fans in the world invade again .. Same as in 68
Get Roy Barry to sort them out!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 17 May 15:18
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Sun 17 May 14:28
So I have a ticket and transport for the final, but after seeing that and the aftermath of yesterday, coupled with the bother of the last few games, I find myself dreading the game. I can’t see us getting a result and, with the almost certainty of sectarian bile and ending up getting a kicking after the game, I’m left questioning whether it’s worth it.
The day will probably be spoiled by them, and thinking about the game (which I had been looking forward to) now makes me wonder if I could do without the hassle. I will end up going to be there and support the team, but at what cost?
Like other pars supporters, I’ll be there with family members who don’t usually go to many games. It feels spoiled before it has even started by the cancerous Weegies.
Have to say that`s exactly how I`m feeling right now.
They really do spoil everything. Wish they would just fuxk off to England
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: KirklistonPar
Date: Sun 17 May 15:50
Yeah, the shine has sadly been taken off the final for me. Instead of going along and enjoying the atmosphere and supporting the Pars I’m gonna be looking over my shoulder in the fear of idiots that don’t know how to behave. Hopefully the day passes by with no Pars fans getting hurt. I will be sitting with 3 generations of my family and I want it to be a day for us to remember for all the right reasons.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 17 May 15:50
"I can see now what is going to happen at the final
We win the cup .. Then ushered straight up the tunnel with no celebration/lap of honour in case the best fans in the world invade again .. Same as in 68"
Celtic fans were not in the equation ref. `68 - the ban was the result of Rangers fans invading Hampden after the 1965 Old Firm League Cup final with some attempting to confront Celtic players - an error of judgement - Tommy Gemmell "intervened" ........... !!!
The ban was in place before we played Hearts and several years thereafter.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Sun 17 May 16:14
Quote:
twin par, Sun 17 May 13:07
It does make you apprehensive, after watching that yesterday.Can’t blame our fans for that.But I am not going to let some idiotic behaviour from a few,to stop me watching my team in a final.Just hope police are on their toes.
Oh the police will be on their toes alright first pars fan who steps out of line will get huckled because like the sfa and the spfl they are scared of the old firm
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 17 May 17:01
Can see it now - Pars win the cup and as fans exit the stadium half an hour later, the Green Brigade lying in wait to pelt families with missiles from all directions whilst the police stand by and watch.
It happened last time at Parkhead when we took them to extra time in League Cup, dont see why it wont happen on Saturday too.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sun 17 May 17:15
Hopefully the club will be in contact with the authorities to ensure the same measures are put in place as per the semi to keep both sets of fans apart.
I know the green brigade marched through the St Mirren bus park at the semi, which was not stopped by the police, this can not be allowed to happen at the final.
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Topic Originator: AberdourPar
Date: Sun 17 May 17:34
I`m a Pars supporter in my mid 70`s. I`ve been to the cup finals 65,68,04 and 07, and the league cup finals 92 and 06. In 2007 I said to my wife that I probably wouldn`t see another cup final, but here we are. This will not be the Pars last final, but realistically it could be mine. I would be travelling a long distance on my own from the north of the country, and the pals I used to sit with having gone.
After the most depressing weekend of football since relegation, I am considering watching the game on tv. I don`t want to breathe the same air as Celtic supporters. Imagine going to a game and hiding your team colours on the way in and on the way out for fear of being attacked.
But I hope that I change my mind, and that others who are wavering still go and support the team.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 17 May 17:59
Pitch invasions are nothing new in Scotland.
Back in the early `60s Celtic fans brought a halt to a Scottish cup semi final at Ibrox by invading the pitch (from both ends) after St.Mirren went 4-0 up.
Nothing malicious about it - just a forlorn attempt to have the match abandoned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIqMYSiSSSI
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Sun 17 May 18:05
I must admit, I felt similar after the semi final.
Thought to myself what a great atmosphere in the town that night with everyone celebrating.
Then my thoughts turned to the final if we had Celtic. What would the atmosphere be like in the town after?
Celebratory definitely, but would it be ruined by local "fans" of the other team.
We didn`t have that aspect after the semi as I can`t imagine many, if any Falkirk fans live in the area.
As for the ground - if the can put a cordon up along the North stand between us and Falkirk fans, surely they can do similar for the final, albeit slightly further along Somerville Drive?!
We don`t have the North Stand so there must be the ability to cordon off from the end of the stand rather than the middle 🤔
I really hope the club can insist on something given the events of the weekend & some of our fans nervousness because of it.
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sun 17 May 18:24
Absolutely nothing will deter me from going to support my beloved Pars. Especially not them. We totally deserve and have earned this. I understand folks thoughts and concerns here. I`d urge everyone to go and back the team and the boys. Let`s get right into them. Whole country will be behind us.
Post Edited (Sun 17 May 18:25)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 17 May 18:26
I hope you change your mind too, AberdourPar.
Noli pati a scelestis opprimi.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sun 17 May 19:24
Topic Originator: veteraneastender like
Date: Sun 17 May 15:50
"I can see now what is going to happen at the final
We win the cup .. Then ushered straight up the tunnel with no celebration/lap of honour in case the best fans in the world invade again .. Same as in 68"
Celtic fans were not in the equation ref. `68 - the ban was the result of Rangers fans invading Hampden after the 1965 Old Firm League Cup final with some attempting to confront Celtic players - an error of judgement - Tommy Gemmell "intervened" ........... !!!
The ban was in place before we played Hearts and several years thereafter.
vee you really need to calm down .. My reference to 68 was the fact that the team were not allowed to celebrate with the fans .. my bad if I did not make that clear or if you simply read it wrong .. we all know the history behind it .. seen footage .. and abhorred it .. So here we go again .. same as in 68 .. My reference to the best fans invading again was for the 3rd time this year .. so probably misled you
Post Edited (Sun 17 May 19:30)
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 17 May 20:04
Understood - but `68 had to be in context, we weren`t singled out for a lap of honour ban.
There were four cup finals at Hampden following the 1965 League Cup final which had initiated the embargo. Two of these involved Celtic v Rangers, so it was clearly justified.
Should it have been extended to a final where neither of the "Gruesome Twosome" were playing ?
Doubtful, however the SFA had to follow their own rules I suppose.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 17 May 20:30
I’ve no doubt at all the decent Celtic fans were appalled at the recent pitch invasions especially at Ibrox and Celtic Park yesterday.
There was loud booing at the conclusion heard on the radio at least.
Celtic are the team however who need to clamp down hard on those fans who ruined it for the rest.
I’ve never felt threatened in all the years we’ve played Celtic.
Indeed, back in the day we’d stop off at Kilsyth Bowling Club run by Celtic fans and were welcomed.
But , this is today and like their bigoted brothers, Celtic have their extreme elements who seemingly don’t care who they affect.
When I lived in Dortmund, the authorities closed the entire Yellow Wall because of fan behaviour.
That sounds outrageous but it did the trick.
The same should happen to Celtic next season for a game.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 17 May 20:46
I see Celtic have released a statement and although criticising the behaviour, have clearly purposely said it occurred after the end of the game.
Can we all agree that if we are somehow leading in the final minute of added time next week that we`re all running on yeah?
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sun 17 May 21:12
Nobody should be afraid to go on Saturday.Its your team,go and enjoy yourself.No way would I allow a few cowards ,to spoil our historic event,be proud of your team and city!
Post Edited (Sun 17 May 21:16)
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Sun 17 May 21:45
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 17 May 17:59
Pitch invasions are nothing new in Scotland.
Back in the early `60s Celtic fans brought a halt to a Scottish cup semi final at Ibrox by invading the pitch (from both ends) after St.Mirren went 4-0 up.
Nothing malicious about it - just a forlorn attempt to have the match http://http://abandoned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIqMYSiSSSI
They are maybe nothing new veteran. But unfortunately this day n age is not like back then. Thats 3 times in 2 months theyve cascaded onto the pitch. Im gonna say it. Not a fkn acknowledgement or condemnation from our so called FM. Its a disgrace. Ive never ever wanted us to win a game more than i do us on Saturday.
Post Edited (Sun 17 May 21:45)
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Sun 17 May 21:52
They`re not just down to over exuberant celebrating either.
Never saw the one midweek but the one at Ibrox and the one yesterday were similar in that the pitch invaders approached the players.
Some were trying to get selfies - not the time or place, while some wanted to confront opposition players, and at Ibrox, confront opposing fans.
It`s a very dangerous precedent if it`s continued to be ignored - how long before someone is seriously injured due to the idiots?
It may not be a new thing, but there`s a real sinister undertone to the current trend that players should not be subjected to.
The fact it's the same team now involved 3 times in a very short space of time suggests that action needs to be taken - fines don't work so maybe points deductions would.
Time for the authorities to grow a set ...
COME ON YE PARS!
Post Edited (Sun 17 May 21:56)
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Sun 17 May 22:04
Quote:
veteraneastender, Sun 17 May 20:04
Understood - but `68 had to be in context, we weren`t singled out for a lap of honour ban.
There were four cup finals at Hampden following the 1965 League Cup final which had initiated the embargo. Two of these involved Celtic v Rangers, so it was clearly justified.
Should it have been extended to a final where neither of the "Gruesome Twosome" were playing ?
Doubtful, however the SFA had to follow their own rules I suppose.
We weren’t singled out in 68, but we were a club, totally uninvolved in those earlier “incidents”, yet punished as we couldn’t celebrate winning the Cup at Hampden with our own fans.
The point is, this dreadful nonsense flares up regularly and has done for decades. Much tougher action needed. Ban them from the Cup Final.
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Topic Originator: par-ticular
Date: Sun 17 May 22:14
Statement saying game was over before invasion!!!
Interested I remember a Celtic ( v Rapid Vienna)game where a bottle was thrown onto the pitch. Game finish. 3-0 Celtic. Opposing team protested and guess what game was replayed down in England. Celtic lost !!
Football is full of full time results being overturned.
The nonsense about invasion after the final whistle, so the result stands is not definitive!!
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Topic Originator: DAPAR
Date: Sun 17 May 22:23
Looks to me it was the Celtic bench and staff who were first on the pitch. Surely needs a serious sanction?
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Mon 18 May 00:23
Noting the celtic comment, it was after the game
1. So what still their fans caused it
2 it actually was not after that`s a convenient story it was clearly during.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Mon 18 May 07:03
Quote:
DAPAR, Sun 17 May 22:23
Looks to me it was the Celtic bench and staff who were first on the pitch. Surely needs a serious sanction?
BBC were reporting that Celtic backroom staff were goading the Hearts bench after both the second and third goals.
I just hope we don’t stoop to their level. Some people tried sectarian chanting, but both our fans and the club shut it down immediately. Hopefully we can go there and show the club in a good light.
Celtic blamed Rangers for the Old Firm trouble, but they’ve yet to condemn the scenes at both the Motherwell and Hearts games, probably because there was nobody else to blame but themselves..
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 18 May 09:25
remember all the carnage when aberdeen won last year, all the fans etc that were attacked celebrating, or the dundee united fans assaulted when they beat celtic in the league a few weeks ago because celtic are sore losers?
Go about your day and if you happen to come across 100 boys in dark green/black if you avoid shouting terms such as "feni@n B`st@rd" or throwing things at them there probably wont be a reaction
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Topic Originator: petrie_pants
Date: Mon 18 May 09:52
We all know there will be no action taken following on from the Hearts game - because of the influence and intimidation tactics Celtic have and use over the SFA.
The police did a good job of keeping us and Falkirk at different ends of the ground for the semi, so fingers crossed they do the same for Saturday.
But we all know Celtic fans, and the GB in particular, are the most entitled group of supporters in Europe so no doubt they`ll turn up and just expect to march where they want and sing just what they want too.
It`s about time we brought in police from other parts of Europe for games involving Celtic - they seem to know how to handle supporters like that pretty well...
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 18 May 11:29
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Mon 18 May 09:25
remember all the carnage when aberdeen won last year, all the fans etc that were attacked celebrating, or the dundee united fans assaulted when they beat celtic in the league a few weeks ago because celtic are sore losers?
Go about your day and if you happen to come across 100 boys in dark green/black if you avoid shouting terms such as "feni@n B`st@rd" or throwing things at them there probably wont be a reaction
Hope you weren’t on the pitch on Saturday, PuP 😉 which end are you in this weekend? 🤔
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Topic Originator: broontroot
Date: Mon 18 May 13:20
Going with my sons and oldest grandson on Saturday, i have absolutely no fears about going to the game and im not expecting any trouble, there was more chance of trouble at the semi with Falkirk in my mind
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 19 May 11:10
for those who dont wish to bump into the "undesirable" element of the celtic support they are walking from Glasgow green to Hampden leaving at 1pm on Saturday route will head over the bridge on crown street, up laurieston road, aikenhead road/calder street road arriving at the ground probably around 13:50.
for those driving i wouldn`t advise driving behind them road be covered in cans/bottles etc
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