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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Fri 25 Sep 15:30
Quote:
Buspasspar, Fri 25 Sept 15:22
At Last .. wonder what the punishment will be ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cwyj9gxvdy8t
This has taken so long that I`d almost forgotten about it. It must have been due to the sheer number of charges brought against the club. You have to think the punishment meted out will be off the scale. I feel sorry for City`s fans, who are completely innocent in all of this.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 25 Sep 15:31
They can pay for their own boxes and couriers to send their trophies back.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 25 Sep 16:51
Even if the charges are halved after appeal, City could potentially be looking at losing multiple league titles and compensation running into the hundreds of millions for teams that lost out on Champions League places etc.
Major points deduction and automatic relegation as a result a very real possibility but how far will the EPL go I wonder.
Remember Everton only breached one rule and got an 8 point deduction!
This is 114!
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
Post Edited (Fri 25 Sep 16:52)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 25 Sep 16:53
The EPL will say "Lessons will be learned" and move on.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 25 Sep 17:44
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sep 16:53
The EPL will say "Lessons will be learned" and move on.
I don’t think so.
I can see where cynicism comes into your thinking but we are unlikely to ever see such a charge meted out ever again and to casually dismiss the seriousness of what they are charged with, how can the English authorities deal with much less serious situations in the future.
I’ve mentioned Everton who only breached one rule for example and ended up eventually with an 8 point deduction.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 25 Sep 17:47
From Aunty :-
An appeal from City is expected to be a formality.
City`s legal team is being led by Lord Pannick KC, who is reported to charge £5,000 an hour for his services. He helped City overturn their two-year European ban in 2020.
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 25 Sep 18:00
I really should have studied law.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Fri 25 Sep 18:01
Quote:
Buspasspar, Fri 25 Sep 17:47
From Aunty :-
An appeal from City is expected to be a formality.
City`s legal team is being led by Lord Pannick KC, who is reported to charge £5,000 an hour for his services. He helped City overturn their two-year European ban in 2020.
Pannick in the building then 😉
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Fri 25 Sep 18:09
<Former Manchester City financial advisor Stefan Borson speaking to BBC 5 Live: "It`s incredibly serious. A complete finding for the Premier League clearly makes it even worse. You`ve now got a situation where this is going to go to a sanction hearing, which will look at what the punishment should be.
It will be going with the worst possible set of circumstances to that sanction hearing, City guilty of everything. With built-in aggravating factors such as the non-cooperation, the nature of the charges that we believe are now proved or such that they will demand very severe punishment.
"And when we see the five, six, seven-hundred-page decision, you can expect it to say some really quite serious things about the people who have given evidence and the way in which Manchester City have behaved.">
The report will be interesting going by that. They’ve cheated to win 8 trophies. 3 Premier Leagues 3 League cups a FA Cup and a Charity Shield. If the punishment is one that means they are still in the EPL next year then it’s open season for the other clubs. Why will any of them adhere to FFP rules when you can cheat on this scale and get away with it?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 25 Sep 18:12
You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Pep Guardiola. But as far as I`m concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest effing dustbin you can find, because you`ve never won any of them fairly. You`ve done it all by bloody cheating.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 25 Sep 18:13
Pannick in the building then 😉
Yer an awfy man AAPS .. hope you are well
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Fri 25 Sep 18:17
Ach TOWK can see where you are coming from .. but not sure if any of the playing squad who won the trophies by playing superb football knew what the financial situation was behind closed doors
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Fri 25 Sep 18:52
Taken years to get to this and other clubs fined and points docked in months eg Everton etc
No doubt with appeals etc this will end about 2050 thereabouts 🤣🤣🤣
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Fri 25 Sep 19:10
Throw the book at them. I suspect this won’t happen though. Just like the old filth up here
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Fri 25 Sep 19:17
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 25 Sep 18:12
You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Pep Guardiola. But as far as I`m concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest effing dustbin you can find, because you`ve never won any of them fairly. You`ve done it all by bloody cheating.
Said a great manager once. . .
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 25 Sep 19:31
Got to give them the harshest of punishments - huge fines, huge point deductions/instant relegations, huge transfer bans…..make it so that if they win an appeal against some charges, the others stick.
The Italians done it in the Noughties, now the EPL have to do it.
The next interesting thing will be to see if the CPS/HMRC come after them - falsifying income/outgoings is pretty serious stuff….
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 25 Sep 20:09
Pep has managed to ruin football in two different ways.... an impressive achievement.
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Topic Originator: DAPAR
Date: Fri 25 Sep 21:40
At least the Damned Utd only cheated on the pitch TOWK. Great scene.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 25 Sep 21:48
At least what, 4 years of appeals?
Nothing.will.happen.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 25 Sep 22:03
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Fri 25 Sep 21:48
At least what, 4 years of appeals?
Nothing.will.happen.
I think it will be done by end of this season. By the sounds of it their appeals will be fairly frivolous.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 26 Sep 11:41
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 25 Sept 18:12
You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Pep Guardiola. But as far as I`m concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest effing dustbin you can find, because you`ve never won any of them fairly. You`ve done it all by bloody cheating.
You`re not the Messiah, Brian - you`re just a very naughty boy. 🙄
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: DavieG
Date: Tue 29 Sep 14:08
At least the Damned Utd only cheated on the pitch TOWK. Great scene.
who cheated ... stop talking pihs
Post Edited (Tue 29 Sep 14:10)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 29 Sep 18:02
Premier League have made their findings clear now and its pretty damning by the looks of it. City now found guilty of all 115 charges. Over £800m in “sham” contracts and sponsorship schemes and systematic financial doping over a 10 year period at the club.
The only way is down it would seem……
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 29 Sep 18:13
I might say a wee prayer for their version of Brian tonight. I suspect trying to admin their forum will be interesting....
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 29 Sep 18:45
I know they’re writing all their Scottish football is crap articles as I type this but genuinely don’t give a F.
It’s a tourist league that’s there to maximise profits. It’s full of fraud and money laundering. They need to relegate Man City. I don’t know how it works with the football league but a points deduction to guarantee relegation if they can’t kick them out.
Ended up listening to Gabby Abonglahor (if that’s how you spell it) and he was 100% correct. City took their best player 3 times during that period and they done that to other clubs as well. They weren’t just cheating out whoever finished 2nd. Their transfers were affecting the entire league.
COYP
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 29 Sep 19:33
Funnily enough NMC I have seen a couple of articles today, The Telegraph in particular, absolutely putting the boot in to Scottish football, it`s almost as if they have had them ready to go, to try and deflect from the fact that the english tourist league is corrupt to the core. Clubs have sold out their real fans, sold out to disgusting states sportwashing, American billionaires that can`t afford an NFL franchise, money laundering, it`s not a real sport down there anymore
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Tue 29 Sep 20:20
Shower of cheats and shysters.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 30 Sep 15:39
Is it just me or are there similarities between what City have done and what Rangers did during the Souness/Smith era? Rangers were giving their players EBTs, disguised as loans, which they never needed to repay. No different apart from the sheer scale in City`s case. Cheating is cheating and no number of wrongs make a right.
IIRC, Rangers were not punished for the EBTs, they were liquidated for failing to pay tax owed to HMRC.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 30 Sep 15:48
This is a different level GG. Nearly a £1Bn of revenue faked on their declared accounts?
An the EBT bit doesn`t mean there wasn`t some deal done. Not much point in incurring a huge amount of cost just for the entity to declare itself bankrupt and be left with the legal fees to pay from public funds.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 30 Sep 16:09
Hope the book is thrown at city but I wondered a bit if Chelsea might have done similar during the Abrahmovich era?
A generally well supported but middle order club that suddenly became a top six fixture, their transfer spend rocketed, CL winning managers were recruited, substantial stadium improvements were made, Gazprom sponsored them as their nonsense `Global Energy Partner`, etc...
How far back do you go?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 30 Sep 16:18
If Financial Fair Play rules applied to the Scottish Championship would we fall foul of them based on how we`re financing expenditure on transfer fees and wages just now?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 30 Sep 16:26
If Chelsea were up to something, they probably avoided the scrutiny by putting their hands up and paying the fine. City haven`t helped themselves by contesting this, but I think their level is way higher than everyone else.
Allegedly....
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Topic Originator: Foresters Par
Date: Wed 30 Sep 16:48
Everton had an 8 point deduction for a £20m discrepancy. On that basis Man City should have a d deduction of 140 points. Not going to happen though. Money talks unfortunately.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 30 Sep 16:53
What is the fan feelings through the 4 divisions. When Rangers went bust there was a huge amount of ill feeling that prevails till today for those offences at Ibrox. I can only imagine what competitor clubs supporters are thinking. When the action comes from the Premier League I wonder what fan reaction will be.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Wed 30 Sep 17:51
Quote:
parsmad68, Wed 30 Sep 16:53
What is the fan feelings through the 4 divisions. When Rangers went bust there was a huge amount of ill feeling that prevails till today for those offences at Ibrox. I can only imagine what competitor clubs supporters are thinking. When the action comes from the Premier League I wonder what fan reaction will be.
That was the most blunderous PR opportunity blown ever. Both clubs are generally despised but the rangers were always going to coast through the leagues and they had 2 options
- 1 was to do it with dignity and build, not support, but maybe empathy and tolerance across the country as all clubs benefited from them being there and building a new & different brand that is not built on hate or
- 2 do it snarling whining crying and bleating like giant man babies cementing the position forevermore in a position that right minded individuals can’t put a piece of paper between the contempt they hold for both.
I don’t think fan feeling was driven by the crime, it was driven by the response of the football hierarchy and the behaviour of the club itselfs ‘leaders’ which in turn fuelled their brain dead fans
Post Edited (Wed 30 Sep 17:53)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 30 Sep 17:55
I had a quick look through previous league finishes. I suspect Liverpool and Arsenal fans will be most aggrieved.
It is so deep though.... managers will have lost their jobs. I am sure there will be more than one club who could argue their results against Man City got them relegated. Managers will have been sacked. A club might not have been relegated if Man City had admitted wrong doing earlier and faced a points reduction in a one-r.
If Southampton were punished so harshly for having some bloke standing next to a tree then I can`t see how this should result in anything other than everything being stripped from the period that applies (including cups and European stuff) and getting moved to the bottom of the leagues and starting again.
And there are criminal charges over those false accounts that were signed off....
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 30 Sep 18:38
Quote:
ipswichpar, Wed 30 Sept 15:48
This is a different level GG. Nearly a £1Bn of revenue faked on their declared accounts?
An the EBT bit doesn`t mean there wasn`t some deal done. Not much point in incurring a huge amount of cost just for the entity to declare itself bankrupt and be left with the legal fees to pay from public funds.
I agree that City`s cheating is off the scale compared to Rangers, but both clubs did this to gain an unfair advantage over their rivals. I don`t think we can say "Oh, Rangers only cheated a little bit." They cheated enough to tip the balance in their favour and win 9 titles in a row, which they have been allowed to keep.
I wonder if City will be stripped of their trophies. Inter apparently wanted to be awarded a cardboard CL trophy after losing to City in the 2023 final. 🙄😚
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 30 Sep 19:07
You know it`s bad when the Italians are slagging you off for being dodgy... perhaps Inter are just critical of City because they got caught 😉
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 30 Sep 20:31
In the real world, City are cooked. They are finished. Unfortunately the EPL isn’t the real world, and this will drag on for years yet.
Differs from the Rangers saga as they got wound up by HMRC and went defunct. Although that may happen to City when the books are re altered.
Stefan Bornstein? Said today that it all relies on the outcome of their appeal over the £830m scam sponsor payments. If they win that, it’s huge. He doubts they will win it though as City’s witnesses were classed as unreliable/untruthful and they cant be pulled up in the appeal process either. So they are pretty much scunnered with that too.
What a shame……🫢😂
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 1 Oct 00:21
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 30 Sep 16:18
If Financial Fair Play rules applied to the Scottish Championship would we fall foul of them based on how we`re financing expenditure on transfer fees and wages just now?
I think you know the answer to that!
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Thu 1 Oct 00:22
Etihad Airways are considering legal action against the PL with an equally powerful statement.
The plot thickens.
“Etihad categorically rejects any finding, conclusion or implication that suggests the airline has ever been involved in improper commercial arrangements,” the statement read.
“At no time did the Premier League reach out to or engage with Etihad in the process associated with the Commission’s opinion.
“Etihad was therefore never given the opportunity by the Premier League to be represented, to provide relevant information, or to ensure the accuracy and fairness of information relied upon in reaching conclusions that may now be interpreted as reflecting adversely on the airline.
“The lack of clarity and transparency, together with the selective disclosure of information, has created damaging implications for Etihad despite the airline not being named in the published decision,” it said.
“The Premier League must take responsibility for the consequences of the way in which these findings have been presented.
“We stand with the club, its supporters and our wider Etihad community as Manchester City challenges the commission’s conclusions through the processes available to it.
“Etihad will seek the relevant legal counsel on the options and recourse available to protect its interests.”
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Thu 01 Oct 00:26)
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 1 Oct 07:07
The PL`s findings are pretty damning, yet the responses from City and now its major sponsor are very feisty. Why would they react in this manner if they don`t have a proverbial leg to stand on? Is it just one gigantic bluff, or has the PL cocked up its investigation and City`s lawyers have discovered a legal loophole? We should find out soon enough when City submits its appeal by tomorrow. And is the PL within its rights to demand that the appeal has to be delivered so soon? What if City`s lawyers say they need more time to prepare it?
Another interesting fact is that Andy Burnham told the BBC he would be very concerned if City`s owners walked away and sold the club. He added that the PL had treated Everton very unfairly. What can we read into that?
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 1 Oct 07:32
Burnham will be most worried about the growth in Manchester. The credit he keeps taking for fixing Manchester to a greater extent than the rest of the UK was very much based on the UAE investment. He definitely won`t want them walking away.
I don`t quite get their arguments that they haven`t had a chance to input to the decision. This has been going on for years, and much longer than other clubs. I think it would be most accurate for both the entities to say that they don`t like the outcome of the process rather than they haven`t had a chance to input.
The appeal process allows them to appeal immediately. They are pushing for a quick decision so they know where they stand. No doubt they will be acting in the background to put pressure on decision makers.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 1 Oct 09:59
Actually GG, tomorrow is last day an appeal can be raised. So they are on tight timescales.
I hadnt realised that UEFA had conducted a similar investigation but on different merits. They were banned from European competition for 2 years but won on appeal.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 1 Oct 14:23
I see nothing other than "lessons have been learned" and forget about it.
Nothing will happen.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 1 Oct 19:02
Quote:
ipswichpar, Thu 1 Oct 09:59
Actually GG, tomorrow is last day an appeal can be raised. So they are on tight timescales.
I hadnt realised that UEFA had conducted a similar investigation but on different merits. They were banned from European competition for 2 years but won on appeal.
City were able to take UEFA to CAS regarding their judgement - they cant do that this time around.
As was mentioned by Simon Jordan today, why were Etihad not called upon by City as a witness for the defence, if everything was squeaky clean? The independent commission had zero need to go to them for clarity.
Remember this ruling has been made by 3 independent judges based on the evidence provided, its not a PL panel that has come to the judgement.
They did have a point about that if City go down, they will try to take down everyone else with them. This will be a dark stain on the English game for years to come and its quite amusing.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Thu 1 Oct 19:05
Yeah agreed. Find it hard to believe they`re the only club at it.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Thu 1 Oct 19:05
This could go on for years as City have the best lawyers..
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Topic Originator: Turps
Date: Thu 1 Oct 19:46
Quote:
Hoolie, Thu 1 Oct 19:05
This could go on for years as City have the best lawyers..
From the Beeb
Manchester City has until Friday, October 2, 2026, to officially file their appeal against the ruling.
Once an appeal is filed, a new three-person commission will review the case. Regulations suggest appeals can take up to 12 weeks, followed by a decision within 30 days, though timelines can vary.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Thu 1 Oct 20:17
Tonight It’s believed that the basis of city’s appeal will be their claim that the additional funds (£990m) over the 10 year period in question were provided by the govt of UAE and not Sheikh Mansour via sponsors. By all accounts govt funding is allowed with several examples in the premier league? They claim irrefutable evidence of this as their defence. However, this is the first time they have declared this and it’s thought the appeal committee will look upon it as further evidence that city are making it up as they go along. Also no new evidence is allowed at appeal stage. Andy Burnhams comments are also being viewed with suspicion by some journalists, questioning whether any deals City made with The mayor of Manchester would survive scrutiny. Get the pop corn in this is going to run and run.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Thu 1 Oct 20:45
Pannick has read through the rules and said "Have you lot run this argument?" I reckon.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 2 Oct 14:07
Appeal went in yesterday evening
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 2 Oct 16:42
Andy Burnham`s getting heavily embroiled in this now. The Lib Dems want details of all meetings he`s had with the Man City owners and hospitality he`s enjoyed at their expense. For a PM he`s a bit too ready to open his mouth and let his belly rumble.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 2 Oct 18:21
To be fair, when you listen to the Abu Dhabi statement, its effectively blackmail to the UK government/Premier League - “you punish City too harshly, we will pull out financial investments in your country”
Maybe these guys weren’t as “fit and proper” as assumed.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 2 Oct 20:16
City`s owners and their UAE sponsors should have remembered that if you always tell the truth you don`t need to have a good memory. Just yesterday Etihad Airways claimed that the their sponsorship of Man City was paid for by the UAE government. However written statements submitted to the US government in 2015 by the Airliner stated.
"The assertion that the Abu Dhabi government paid for Etihad’s sponsorship of English Premier League football club Manchester City is false. In 2011, Etihad and Manchester City entered into a 10-year sponsorship agreement, which included naming rights for Manchester City’s stadium. Etihad funded this sponsorship from its own liquidity.”
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Fri 2 Oct 23:08
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Fri 2 Oct 20:16
City`s owners and their UAE sponsors should have remembered that if you always tell the truth you don`t need to have a good memory. Just yesterday Etihad Airways claimed that the their sponsorship of Man City was paid for by the UAE government. However written statements submitted to the US government in 2015 by the Airliner stated.
"The assertion that the Abu Dhabi government paid for Etihad’s sponsorship of English Premier League football club Manchester City is false. In 2011, Etihad and Manchester City entered into a 10-year sponsorship agreement, which included naming rights for Manchester City’s stadium. Etihad funded this sponsorship from its own liquidity.”
They’re cooked!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 3 Oct 10:59
Could this be the downfall of Burnham?
I believe Man City have been putting a lot back into the community, is there some kind of conspiracy that Burnham turned a blind eye to win favour with voters if Man City were funding things around the Manchester? I’m totally spit balling, have no evidence. I’m just predicting/surmising what might come out of it.
I’ve not even fully thought it out before writing 🤣
COYP
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 3 Oct 13:11
Quote:
NMCmassive, Sat 3 Oct 10:59
Could this be the downfall of Burnham?
I believe Man City have been putting a lot back into the community, is there some kind of conspiracy that Burnham turned a blind eye to win favour with voters if Man City were funding things around the Manchester? I’m totally spit balling, have no evidence. I’m just predicting/surmising what might come out of it.
I’ve not even fully thought it out before writing 🤣
Don`t worry, NMC. It`ll be factually true before the weekend`s over. 😀
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 3 Oct 13:17
If Burnham just stays out of it, he will be fine. If he panders to the blackmaillers, it could get messy - quick.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Sat 3 Oct 14:30
This time next year Rodney
How long will City`s appeal take?
The commission was made up of three people, each with many years` experience in the legal field.
The appeal will now be heard in private by a new, three-person independent commission panel, each with a similar expert background in law.
One section of the Premier League regulations says that an appeal hearing should conclude within 12 weeks of it being heard, and a decision communicated within 30 days of that.
Twelve weeks from Thursday – when City say they lodged the appeal – would be 24 December.
But this timeframe can also be disapplied if deemed necessary, meaning it remains uncertain how long the process will actually take.
The relevant regulation was only added to the rule book this summer.
Previous precedent suggests that sanctions against City will only be imposed after a decision on the appeal, though this is not guaranteed.
There could therefore also be a second appeal later down the line, against any sanctions imposed on the club.
We are forever shaped by the Children we once were
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 3 Oct 15:25
They were talking about the appeal being assessed in 30 days. Then it moved to "some time after Christmas, but City want it sorted before end of the season so they know what they are doing". But I think they`ll have the right to take it to the High Court. At which point you are talking years. I think the City position of "we want it sorted by end of the season" is simply trying to put pressure on a decision in their favour. If they don`t like the decision I am sure they will appeal it, no matter the impact on timing.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 3 Oct 15:33
I think it will be done by the end of the season.
The appeals process cant bring any additional evidence or witnesses - it’s literally just 3 new judges reading over the judgement papers and either agreeing or disagreeing with the final verdicts. They don’t have to go through the 3/4 years worth of documents etc to reach a new verdict.
The High Court may take a bit longer, but can imagine it would be a sped up trial to get it finished with. If City had this “irrefutable evidence” where has it been for the last 4 years?
They’ve been caught with their trousers down and are scrambling not just for this season, but for the clubs future existence. This could easily end Man City as an entity.
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