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 Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: Shakey  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 17:36

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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 18:36

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Shakey, Mon 22 Oct 17:36

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/3321-president-orders-military-deployment-to-southern-border


If it were true then I think it would be reasonable to deploy troops to the border.
Hal Turner is a holocaust denying, white supremacist nutcase so I am quite prepared to state that this is almost certainly not happening.
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Mon 22 Oct 18:48

So it is actually happening.
I think the US is well within its rights to stop so many entering.
The BBC claims they will be seeking asylum.
If they are genuinely in danger back home then perhaps there is a moral duty to help them.
If just economic migrants I would say US have to keep them out, otherwise there will be more and more examples of this.

Shakey your source says a lot about why you post so must rubbish on here.
Just this time he is fairly accurate.
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: richie5401  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 00:13

That's exactly the problem.There is no way of knowing who is fleeing what.
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: parbucks  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 20:39

Asylum seekers under international convention, I believe, are supposed to apply for asylum in the first safe and democratic country they enter.

Since most seem to be from Central America and passing through Mexico, a country which meets those criteria, then the presumption has to be that they are economic migrants.
Not helped by the fact many Mexicans seem to be joining them!

The USA in these circumstances is perfectly entitled to protect its border.

Where have we heard this story before?



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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Tue 23 Oct 22:51

Over 31 thousand murders in Mexico last year. To put that in context there were 17 thousand in the U.S (much larger population) and in the UK there were less than 800.
While in some ways that shocking statistic proves why the U.S wants to secure it's southern border it also dismisses any notion of Mexico being a safe haven. The number of people unlawfully killed in Mexico over the last decade is similar to that of a Syria.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 24 Oct 06:45

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The One Who Knocks, Tue 23 Oct 22:51

Over 31 thousand murders in Mexico last year. To put that in context there were 17 thousand in the U.S (much larger population) and in the UK there were less than 800.
While in some ways that shocking statistic proves why the U.S wants to secure it's southern border it also dismisses any notion of Mexico being a safe haven. The number of people unlawfully killed in Mexico over the last decade is similar to that of a Syria.


Are you including the innocents killed by our bombs in Syria?

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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Wed 24 Oct 09:22

Yeah and it also includes the the innocents killed by the thousands of missiles and bombs that Russia has rained down onto Syria.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: Par 64  
Date:   Sun 4 Nov 14:13

I am tempted to say f@ck your discuss heading with that link you have attached. Here's hoping you are Sine Die from this site.
I bet you are a fan of Alex Jones and others of that ilk

Absolute disgrace that anyone would link that as a source of fact and don't come back with I never said it was fact crocodile tears crap.

Clearly from all the absolute sh1te you have posted previously about Trump, it's people and sites like this where you are doing your light reading. What an absolute roaster
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sun 4 Nov 14:16

Steady on now.
Play the ball... Not the man.

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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: Par 64  
Date:   Sun 4 Nov 14:24

I understand that some people won't have heard of Hal Turner, Alex Jones and the like, but anyone who "seriously" uses their quotes or links to their quotes & sites as a source of information or an attempt at proving facts, should be closed down right away.

In these circumstances the ball, the man and the whole f***ing team are fair game.
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sun 4 Nov 15:16

You are entitled to your opinion.... But so is everyone else.it is a forum for all.
Please don't tell us how to run this site or you will find it's you who is removed.
I suggest you take some time to read the rules of this site.
Above all else... Don't get personal.
Argue all you want... But keep it about the topic.

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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: OzPar  
Date:   Mon 19 Nov 23:26

I think those of us that live in the sane world - as opposed to the QAnon world - knew all along that this was nothing more than a political stunt by Trump to ramp up tensions about the "caravan" ahead of the midterm elections.

Well, sure enough, it was and nothing - nada - zilch has occurred to justify the troop deployment. It may even have been illegal.

Ever so quietly, it has been announced that the troops are to return to base...
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: Par 64  
Date:   Wed 21 Nov 10:53

You can threathen me all you like, but anytime in the future i read absolute garbage like has been posted by a certain poster, I will call it out for what it is. Now if you want protect his rights above mine go right ahead, as that will be all the proof I need about this site.
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 Re: Heavy handed or minimum force? Discuss
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Wed 21 Nov 11:15

I told you that all are entitled to their say and to respect the rules ... That's not a threat.
For your info... Name calling will not be tolerated on this site.
Continue with it and you will be removed... And that's a promise.
No need for name calling... Argue all you want... But don't get personal.

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