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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 30 Oct 08:34
Will ally with anyone it seems. Have to say I`d enjoy seeing them attempt to align their policies with Labour π
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Mon 30 Oct 10:10
They were in Dumfie yesterday.
Reports of Canadian Goose being pursued by horny peacock
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 30 Oct 11:37
Dunfy, surely?
It was good to see them use Dunfermline for the conference. Our local Green representatives are really good but I must confess I`m not that impressed by the leadership of the Scottish Greens. Though I`m not impressed by ANY of the party leaders.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 30 Oct 11:38
The smaller parties are smart to look to make compromises where they can on the off chance that they gain the opportunity to enact one or two of their prioritised policies.
This is well understood in actual democracies where 35% of the vote gets you 35% of the representation, rather than a huge majority like it does under the UK`s flawed system.
In other words parties working together is the norm in democratic societies.
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Mon 30 Oct 22:30
The Greens are the soft option for those who lack the guts to tackle the basic issue of calibration between Labour and Capital. The rich, the Establishment have funded this nonsense for the last 30 years and cannot believe their luck.
Green politics is a safe haven for middle class faddists who, on the one hand in Germany scream for environmentalism, and on the other cannot send enough bombs to Ukraine. They see no disconnection between these two positions. They are a cult, are a new religion, a form of original sin whereby your carbon footprint makes you as a sinner. Greta Thurnberg is their Joan of Arc. Heresy beckons for any decent man or woman who dissents.
Vote Green, vote servitude to the new religion. Middle class w*****s screaming for the new serfdom. Feudalism can be restored under the new technocracy.
sammer
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 30 Oct 22:57
Quote:
sammer, Mon 30 Oct 22:30
The Greens are the soft option for those who lack the guts to tackle the basic issue of calibration between Labour and Capital. The rich, the Establishment have funded this nonsense for the last 30 years and cannot believe their luck.
Green politics is a safe haven for middle class faddists who, on the one hand in Germany scream for environmentalism, and on the other cannot send enough bombs to Ukraine. They see no disconnection between these two positions. They are a cult, are a new religion, a form of original sin whereby your carbon footprint makes you as a sinner. Greta Thurnberg is their Joan of Arc. Heresy beckons for any decent man or woman who dissents.
Vote Green, vote servitude to the new religion. Middle class w*****s screaming for the new serfdom. Feudalism can be restored under the new technocracy.
You used to be one of the best posters on this site but you have really fell to pieces over the last twelve months. It`s been a sad demise
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Tue 31 Oct 00:26
βIn other words parties working together is the norm in democratic societies.β
Yeah - working together behind closed doors with the electorate sidelined.
The beauty of the First Past the Post system is that it allows the voters to actually get rid of politicians.
Proportional Representation protects elite politicians from those pesky voters.
If we had PR in Westminster, Nick Clegg would still be charge and Nigel Farage would be an MP.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Tue 31 Oct 06:38
Quote:
Tad Allagash, Tue 31 Oct 00:26
βIn other words parties working together is the norm in democratic societies.β
Yeah - working together behind closed doors with the electorate sidelined.
The beauty of the First Past the Post system is that it allows the voters to actually get rid of politicians.
Proportional Representation protects elite politicians from those pesky voters.
If we had PR in Westminster, Nick Clegg would still be charge and Nigel Farage would be an MP.
It`s going to be impossible to remove the worst politician`s from Holyrood as the system is setup to accommodate them.
For example they just put their name on both the list and constituency ballet.
Best example is Murdo Fraser, he`s been there since the Parliament opened, lost every time on the constituency vote but gets in on the list.There is a way to stop it, get elected on the list and the only option after that is the constituency route. "Both votes SNP " why ? Why not vote for your favoured party ,then chose another with your second vote.
Also, when will they revert back to the 4 year term ? Turkeys don't vote for Xmas....
Post Edited (Tue 31 Oct 06:41)
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Wed 1 Nov 08:20
Quote:
Tad Allagash, Tue 31 Oct 00:26
βIn other words parties working together is the norm in democratic societies.β
Yeah - working together behind closed doors with the electorate sidelined.
The beauty of the First Past the Post system is that it allows the voters to actually get rid of politicians.
Proportional Representation protects elite politicians from those pesky voters.
If we had PR in Westminster, Nick Clegg would still be charge and Nigel Farage would be an MP.
So you`re saying we`d need a robust and accessible recall process? I agree: it should be much easier to remove bad politicians from power. The Covid inquiry is highlighting that.
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Wed 1 Nov 13:16
The only reason that pair of fruit loop Greens are in ministerial posts is to prop up the SNP in Holyrood.
Nobody touched them with a barge pole before that
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 1 Nov 15:24
Quote:
Parboiled, Wed 1 Nov 13:16
The only reason that pair of fruit loop Greens are in ministerial posts is to prop up the SNP in Holyrood.
Nobody touched them with a barge pole before that
The only party that`s been in Holyrood and never had a constituency member of Parliament. Even Alba has a constituency MSP.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 1 Nov 15:35
Would a `list` MSP be allowed to switch parties and keep their seat, given that the lists are nominated by the parties?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Wed 1 Nov 16:25
I don`t believe Alba have even had a councillor elected. Nah I`m afraid Alba are complete irrelevance. A party where careers go to die but only after they`ve secured a cushty seat via the SNP first. Sorry nuSNP.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Wed 1 Nov 16:49
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Wed 1 Nov 16:25
I don`t believe Alba have even had a councillor elected. Nah I`m afraid Alba are complete irrelevance. A party where careers go to die but only after they`ve secured a cushty seat via the SNP first. Sorry nuSNP.
Got it in one TOWK Independence is now a irrelevance....NuSNP have seen to that.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Wed 1 Nov 17:18
The only party that`s been in Holyrood and never had a constituency member of Parliament. Even Alba has a constituency MSP.
The SSP? SSCUP? Solidarity? Reform?
Some of these MSPs (Solidarity and Reform, also the ScotNats who resigned over NATO) changed affiliation but weren`t replaced, as far as I can remember.
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Thu 2 Nov 07:34
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Wed 1 Nov 16:25
I don`t believe Alba have even had a councillor elected. Nah I`m afraid Alba are complete irrelevance. A party where careers go to die but only after they`ve secured a cushty seat via the SNP first. Sorry nuSNP.
Looks like the only Independence party in Holyrood may be doubling its number.....
FREE IN 23
https://fb.watch/o32mHpwp8Y/
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 2 Nov 09:45
On `Debate Night` on BBC Scotland last night one of the questions was whether MPs/MSPs who switched parties mid-term should be required to fight a by-election. Apart from a mealy-mouthed Tory MSP everyone on the panel and everyone in the audience who expressed a view agreed that they should.
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