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Topic Originator: Gregshawsgranny
Date: Tue 30 Jan 13:20
Two Trialists starting against Queen’s Park I see. Does anyone know who they are?
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 30 Jan 13:38
Quote:
Gregshawsgranny, Tue 30 Jan 13:20
Two Trialists starting against Queen’s Park I see. Does anyone know who they are?
Doug Considine and Kevin Hegarty
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 30 Jan 13:42
guess Cardle will be no7.
edit: Queen`s Park twitter has named no9 as Fletcher.
Post Edited (Tue 30 Jan 13:54)
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:02
Cardle and Fletcher
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:10
Quote:
RMGpar, Tue 30 Jan 14:02
Cardle and Fletcher
Steven Fletcher ?? 😂
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:12
Norman Stanley Fletcher
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:23
Showing your age Raymie LOL
His nickname is Fletch and he is quite a character
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:28
Presumably a trialist has to be a free agent, not contracted to another club?
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:32
yes correct
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Topic Originator: AlterPar
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:41
Isaac Fletcher
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:46
Christian Fletcher.
Last seen at Pitcairn Rovers.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 30 Jan 14:48
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Isaac Fletcher
Personal information
Full name Isaac Andrew Fletcher[1]
Date of birth 1 June 2002 (age 21)
Height 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m)[2]
Position(s) Midfielder
Team information
Current team Middlesbrough
Number 35
Youth career
2012–2020 Middlesbrough
Senior career*
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2020– Middlesbrough 1 (0)
2022 → Hartlepool United (loan) 14 (1)
2022 → Scunthorpe United (loan) 3 (0)
*Club domestic league appearances and goals, correct as of 01:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Isaac Andrew Fletcher (born 1 June 2002) is an English professional footballer who plays for Middlesbrough as a midfielder.
Career
Fletcher began his career with Middlesbrough at under-10 level before turning professional in November 2020.[3] He moved on loan to Hartlepool United in January 2022.[2] In February 2022, Fletcher scored his first professional goal in a 2–1 win at Colchester United.[4][5]
On 26 August 2022, Fletcher signed for National League club Scunthorpe United on loan until January 2023,[6] however he was recalled early, on 28 September 2022.[7]
Personal life
He is the older brother of Oscar Fletcher who plays for Hartlepool`s youth team.[8]
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Tue 30 Jan 15:17
It seems like our operating model is to secure the youngsters who have not really managed to make an impact at their youth academy.
There must be thousands of young guys who are possibly in no-mans land career wise.
It`s then up to our coaching staff and the guys application if they make it as a footballer.
Could be a sound plan if it`s cost effective.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 30 Jan 15:24
Steven Fletcher. This place is crazy at the best of times....
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 30 Jan 15:59
QP 1-0 DA FT. Trialist 9 was subbed after 76 minutes.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 30 Jan 16:00
I see we got beat 1-0
Same problem as our First Team , when we are on top or get the chance we cannot score ! and nobody following up at back post !
At least it was a chance to try a couple of trialists out ,
Noticed the Forum has been pretty quite
Is everyone waiting for tomorrow when we sign a player or two ??
Post Edited (Tue 30 Jan 16:01)
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 30 Jan 16:04
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 30 Jan 14:48
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Isaac Fletcher
Personal information
Full nameIsaac Andrew Fletcher[1]
Date of birth1 June 2002 (age 21)
Height6 ft 4 in (1.93 m)[2]
Position(s)Midfielder
Team information
Current teamMiddlesbrough
Number35
Youth career
2012–2020Middlesbrough
Senior career*
YearsTeamApps(Gls)
2020–Middlesbrough1(0)
2022→ Hartlepool United (loan)14(1)
2022→ Scunthorpe United (loan)3(0)
*Club domestic league appearances and goals, correct as of 01:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Isaac Andrew Fletcher (born 1 June 2002) is an English professional footballer who plays for Middlesbrough as a midfielder.
Career
Fletcher began his career with Middlesbrough at under-10 level before turning professional in November 2020.[3] He moved on loan to Hartlepool United in January 2022.[2] In February 2022, Fletcher scored his first professional goal in a 2–1 win at Colchester United.[4][5]
On 26 August 2022, Fletcher signed for National League club Scunthorpe United on loan until January 2023,[6] however he was recalled early, on 28 September 2022.[7]
Personal life
He is the older brother of Oscar Fletcher who plays for Hartlepool`s youth team.[8]
So he’s a midfielder? Assumed it would be a striker if he was number 9.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 30 Jan 16:10
Were you at the game, wullie, or are you just making assumptions with no basis in fact as tends to be the case on here?
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 30 Jan 16:10
A 6`4 striker would be nice!
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Tue 30 Jan 16:10
"It seems like our operating model is to secure the youngsters who have not really managed to make an impact at their youth academy.
There must be thousands of young guys who are possibly in no-mans land career wise.
It`s then up to our coaching staff and the guys application if they make it as a footballer.
Could be a sound plan if it`s cost effective."
The summer we brought in Callum Morris/Josh Falkingham/Alex Whittle a large amount of the recruitment was done after playing Nike Academy which was made up of players released from the EPL academies.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 30 Jan 16:35
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 30 Jan 16:10
Were you at the game, wullie, or are you just making assumptions with no basis in fact as tends to be the case on here?
Took the words right out my mouth. And he wonders why the forum is quiet!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 30 Jan 16:41
Wee Eck you should know me better than make assumptions !
I couldn`t go to the game because it was behind closed doors !
However I am basing what i wrote from the official Dunfermline site which was giving updates and a match report ! So it`s facts not fiction Eck
Regarding my opinion about not being able to score like our First team was based on this and our first teams record of scoring , At the games i go along to we often make good chances but do not take them and itbites us in the bum ! goals help win games
I think only Airdrie and Arbroath have scored fewer goals than us in the league so this is what I base things on regarding our scoring record !
I am confident though as players come back from injury and hopefully we sign one or two this will change , as I put many things down to how we have had to play people out of position just to field a team ,
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 30 Jan 16:52
Well you might be surprised to know that I read the match report too, wullie. What I learned was that we played better in the second half than in the first and had a few attempts on goal but whether we had any glaring misses or someone wasn`t following up at the back post is anybody`s guess.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 30 Jan 17:07
Eck you can read along the lines what has happened and I know you are like myself we like to do our homework before posting , just like after a saturday night if we have got beat , it`s never a good time to post because you want to blame a certain player , but when you are rational its a different story ! nobody tries to miss chances just like deniz was getting slaughterd for a couple of bad things and I was happy people gave him the thumbs up after saturday , its football it happens , we move on but we certainly do not have someone up front at present who you could say will score a good few goals for us , and as I said I am sure this will change once because it doesnt matter what league you play in , it is very difficult to be play as a lone striker
And for you da no 1 you have always to get your tuppence worth in !
You should try stepping back a bit sometimes
there is the flip side da no 1 some folk are probably quite here because you just have to make a mountain out of a mole hill
I do not think anything I wrote is out of context with the amount of goals we are scoring , what I wrote is fact
I am sure you will want the last word on this too
check my posts in the future I never ever say anything bad about anyone as none of us are perfect
Post Edited (Tue 30 Jan 17:08)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 30 Jan 17:36
Aw calm doon min. I read your post the way is was written, in that you were commenting on a performance without actually knowing anything about the game other than the final score. Maybe if you`d told us you had read the report in your first post, I certainly wouldn`t have commented at all. Saying that, our official match reports are always going to lean towards our team rather than the opposition. Surely the only real way of judging how we played is to go to the game?
Anyway this is my final word on this thread, sorry if I upset you.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 30 Jan 18:03
Da no 1 , I am fine ,!
Put it down to a senior moment that I didn`t add I was going with the dafc comments
Anyway I know we are all the same just wanting the best for the team and dafc
No harm having an opinion da no 1 that`s why it`s a forum
Next time I will be more clearer lol
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 30 Jan 18:13
Wullie, let`s hope Holmes can solve the mystery of the missing goals, eh? I mean it`s elementary really; just put the ball between the posts and over the line.
😊😊😊
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Tue 30 Jan 18:22
Wee eck,
So long as it`s not rugby fashion!
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Topic Originator: EastEndTales
Date: Tue 30 Jan 19:23
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 30 Jan 18:13
Wullie, let`s hope Holmes can solve the mystery of the missing goals, eh? I mean it`s elementary really; just put the ball between the posts and over the line.
😊😊😊
Can`t be that bloody hard!
Then I remember some of my efforts over the years. Yikes.
Ep.17 of East End Tales is out now with Andrius Skerla
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1972630/15082607
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Tue 30 Jan 19:31
Sounds like the other trialist was Josh McPake. Courier has him mentioned in the Holmes article.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Tue 30 Jan 20:43
Eck nice one ! I like it when there is a wee bit humour on things
we all need a wee laugh now and again !
And I hope you are right and he sorts out the missing Goals
Post Edited (Tue 30 Jan 21:23)
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 31 Jan 11:10
it wasnt McPake, if it was Isaac Fletcher he would have to been signed by us and the paperwork wasnt through or was released by Middlesbrough some time before the game.....although we do have previous for playing an ineligible player at this level.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 31 Jan 11:30
I don`t understand that, GJS93? Are you saying you can`t play anyone as a trialist unless he has signed for you? That would defeat the whole point of having trialists.
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Wed 31 Jan 11:32
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 31 Jan 11:30
I don`t understand that, GJS93? Are you saying you can`t play anyone as a trialist unless he has signed for you? That would defeat the whole point of having trialists.
Can`t play a trialist if they are still registered by another club.....
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Wed 31 Jan 13:36
photos from Queen`s Park`s photographer confirm it was Cardle and Fletcher
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 1 Feb 08:08
Cardle on a short term deal will be a good signing gives us experience and I wouldn`t imagine he will be asking for much wages.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Thu 1 Feb 09:04
cammypar 1995 wrote:
> Cardle on a short term deal will be a good signing gives us
> experience and I wouldn`t imagine he will be asking for much
> wages.
>
>
It just smacks of desperation- a 36yr old winger who’s been without a club for 9 months is just the wrong move entirely!
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Thu 1 Feb 09:05
I reckon he would play for free, wouldn`t be the first time he`s suggested i, although shouldn`t need to!
He never got the proper goodbye last time
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 1 Feb 09:20
Quote:
ParfectXI, Thu 1 Feb 09:04
cammypar 1995 wrote:
> Cardle on a short term deal will be a good signing gives us
> experience and I wouldn`t imagine he will be asking for much
> wages.
>
It just smacks of desperation- a 36yr old winger who’s been without a club for 9 months is just the wrong move entirely!
Better than having 16 year olds on the bench who are untested at this level and there is a great chance they aren`t ready.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 1 Feb 09:21
Cardle wouldn`t get a game
Post Edited (Thu 01 Feb 09:26)
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Thu 1 Feb 09:26
I would be delighted to see Cardle come in as a player/coach taking over Greig Shield’s role. Signing him as a player only seems a bit desperate though, which I hate saying as he is one of my favourite players ever to play for the club.
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Topic Originator: rsmith
Date: Thu 1 Feb 09:47
I do think Cardle would be a good appointment to the role Greg Shields has just vacated. Would depend on his other commitments with his own academy though I guess.
I do think given our bench is fairly weak most weeks that having an experienced player, that would certainly give the crowd a lift if called upon, can only be a good thing.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Thu 1 Feb 14:52
I remember when we signed Craig Brewster at a similar age. A lot of people didn`t fancy that either but turned out alright.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Thu 1 Feb 15:31
CrossPar wrote:
> I remember when we signed Craig Brewster at a similar age. A
> lot of people didn`t fancy that either but turned out alright.
Brewster was still playing regularly though at a top level first at Ionikus and then at Hibs. Cardle hasn’t been with a team for 9 months since he was let go at Kelty! Not a similar situation at all.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 1 Feb 15:43
He has been training with us since before Christmas and let`s be honest has he been actively looking for a club or has he just been focusing on his academy.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:01
He`d be a good player to have around the squad, and make an impact from the bench - having seen our bench the last couple of months, its pretty obvious we lack experience and ability. Add to the fact he would be a great influence around the youngsters, and has probably already worked with a few of them through his own academy.
I really don`t see the issue with giving him a deal til the end of the season.
Post Edited (Thu 01 Feb 16:01)
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:09
Athletico wrote:
> He`d be a good player to have around the squad, and make an
> impact from the bench - having seen our bench the last couple
> of months, its pretty obvious we lack experience and ability.
> Add to the fact he would be a great influence around the
> youngsters, and has probably already worked with a few of them
> through his own academy.
>
> I really don`t see the issue with giving him a deal til the end
> of the season.
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> Post Edited (Thu 01 Feb 16:01)
Because it’s a smokescreen to deflect away from the fact this transfer window has been atrocious. Since he was a free agent he could have signed at any time, yet during the last few games we’ve went with 2 gks and 3 youngsters on the bench why wasn’t he good enough then but now seems worthy?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:14
How is it a `smokescreen` if he hasn`t signed?
I wonder if Joe has applied for the Academy job?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:15
Quote:
ParfectXI, Thu 1 Feb 16:09
Athletico wrote:
> He`d be a good player to have around the squad, and make an
> impact from the bench - having seen our bench the last couple
> of months, its pretty obvious we lack experience and ability.
> Add to the fact he would be a great influence around the
> youngsters, and has probably already worked with a few of them
> through his own academy.
>
> I really don`t see the issue with giving him a deal til the end
> of the season.
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>
>
> Post Edited (Thu 01 Feb 16:01)
Because it’s a smokescreen to deflect away from the fact this transfer window has been atrocious. Since he was a free agent he could have signed at any time, yet during the last few games we’ve went with 2 gks and 3 youngsters on the bench why wasn’t he good enough then but now seems worthy?
Valid point
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:17
I`ve watched Cardle coach a few times and he appears to be really good. I`m not a coach though so hard to judge!
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:17
Maybe we haven`t offered him a deal yet. Maybe he has been in part time while working on his academy. Surely better than 16 year olds who won`t get on at least he can come on and try and change the game.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 1 Feb 16:33
Smokescreen? Christ.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Thu 1 Feb 17:32
If he comes as a coach then I’d welcome that!! But folk are touting him coming back as a player and if that is the case then surely we should be aiming higher than a 36 yr old without a club for 9 months! And if he is the best we can attract then there are serious issues behind the scenes.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 1 Feb 17:38
Quote:
ParfectXI, Thu 1 Feb 17:32
If he comes as a coach then I’d welcome that!! But folk are touting him coming back as a player and if that is the case then surely we should be aiming higher than a 36 yr old without a club for 9 months! And if he is the best we can attract then there are serious issues behind the scenes.
Aye and look at all the players we have managed to bring in. I don`t think anyone is suggesting he will be the first name on the team sheet but let`s be honest what`s the alternative? A sixteen year old who isn`t good enough or experienced enough to play at this level cardle ticks both of those boxes. I`d be pretty confident he won`t be asking for mega bucks and will fill the gaps left with injuries and gives us another option to change the game if the 11 that started isn`t doing it.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 1 Feb 17:48
He has been training at EEP for quite a while now, I`m sure they have assessed him fully!
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Thu 1 Feb 17:52
Aye look at the players we have managed to bring in! A defender (who could be decent) and a striker who’s been bouncing about in the Northern and National leagues of England! It remains to be seen if it’s been a successful window but right at this moment I’m not filled with much confidence that they’re the answer to our obvious shortcomings on-field.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Thu 1 Feb 17:55
And as I said before Lochgelly Albert- why didn’t we sign him when we were reduced to putting 2 gks and 3 untested youngsters on the bench? He was a free agent so could’ve been signed anytime - what’s changed between then and now?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 1 Feb 18:10
Jakubiak, Tod, Breen, Todd and Comrie are all due back in the next two weeks so hopefully we are over the worst. Imagine if we`d signed another three or four as cover. No one has ever answered my question - how big a squad should a club like ours have, given we have no regular reserve team fixtures and we`re committed to a youth policy? Joe hasn`t played at Championship level for a few years but fans imagine him as he was about 5 years ago.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 1 Feb 18:13
Cardle wasnt good enough 7 years ago to push us into the Prem, why do people now think hes the signing we need now after being released from League One and not having a club since?
Would be a fantastic appointment to the academy/coaching staff though and may even entice Dylan Easton to switch allegiances 😜
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 1 Feb 18:15
Quote:
ParfectXI, Thu 1 Feb 17:52
Aye look at the players we have managed to bring in! A defender (who could be decent) and a striker who’s been bouncing about in the Northern and National leagues of England! It remains to be seen if it’s been a successful window but right at this moment I’m not filled with much confidence that they’re the answer to our obvious shortcomings on-field.
And an untested 16 year old is the answer ? Your saying you want improvement but don`t want to sign someone who has played at this level and extensive experience? Surely he will be an upgrade on any of our bench from Saturday?
We have had a by your view a "woeful window" then surely signing a guy to strengthen our bench is a good move ?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 1 Feb 18:19
Happy to have Jojo at the club and I agree he might be a ready made replacement for Greg Shields.
I’m also sure that were we having serious squad issues, he could still do a shift as a sub and give it his all.
He clearly loves the club and hopefully will become a successful coach.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Thu 1 Feb 18:28
Here’s the issue- We have a decent attendance every week, we have a ground and facilities the likes of Livi, St Mirren, Ross County and every other Championship team bar Dundee Utd would love to have- yet we appear to be having issues attracting a decent standard of players.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Thu 1 Feb 18:48
dont see Cardle getting a playing deal, the academy role i think is totally different to what he does so i dont see that either but who knows.
im more interested in the lad Fletcher out of the two and what the thinking is with that one.
why cant we attract players?
others offering more money is the obvious answer.
maybe players dont want to travel from the west if they are over there.
maybe the club dont have enough scouts and contacts to widen the pool.
there will be plenty of other maybe`s but you will never got the real answers.
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Topic Originator: weemike
Date: Thu 1 Feb 18:58
Quote:
ParfectXI, Thu 1 Feb 18:28
Here’s the issue- We have a decent attendance every week, we have a ground and facilities the likes of Livi, St Mirren, Ross County and every other Championship team bar Dundee Utd would love to have- yet we appear to be having issues attracting a decent standard of players.
Just because we are not signing them doesn`t mean we are not attractive,
I suspect we are just not willing to match other clubs wage offers.
Doesn`t mean we are smaller, doesn`t mean we are in financial difficulties.
Just means we have x amount a week and if you wanna play for us that`s what you`ll get.
At the end of the day there is more footballers than spaces at clubs with 1000`s getting told every season they are not gonna be full time.
If your coaching staff is any good they can take any half decent group of footballers and build a team.
It`s time everyone woke up to the idea that we are a prudent club and we will only make marquee signings if the price is right.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 1 Feb 19:14
Quote:
weemike, Thu 1 Feb 18:58
Quote:
ParfectXI, Thu 1 Feb 18:28
Here’s the issue- We have a decent attendance every week, we have a ground and facilities the likes of Livi, St Mirren, Ross County and every other Championship team bar Dundee Utd would love to have- yet we appear to be having issues attracting a decent standard of players.
Just because we are not signing them doesn`t mean we are not attractive,
I suspect we are just not willing to match other clubs wage offers.
Doesn`t mean we are smaller, doesn`t mean we are in financial difficulties.
Just means we have x amount a week and if you wanna play for us that`s what you`ll get.
At the end of the day there is more footballers than spaces at clubs with 1000`s getting told every season they are not gonna be full time.
If your coaching staff is any good they can take any half decent group of footballers and build a team.
It`s time everyone woke up to the idea that we are a prudent club and we will only make marquee signings if the price is right.
Imagine a companys board working within a set budget and keeping to it to avoid financial turmoil…..😂
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sat 3 Feb 15:35
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ParfectXI, Thu 1 Feb 17:32
If he comes as a coach then I’d welcome that!! But folk are touting him coming back as a player and if that is the case then surely we should be aiming higher than a 36 yr old without a club for 9 months! And if he is the best we can attract then there are serious issues behind the scenes.
He`d be an improvement on O`Halloran!
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 3 Feb 15:43
Could the problem be the likes of rovers are not putting in relegation reduction clause and we are given current form as we drop down the league? I assume we got stung last time with this.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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