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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 14:56
Ref: Craig Napier
Pars team
Oluwayemi
Comrie
Ngwenya
Benedictus
Otoo
Ritchie-Hosler
Chalmers
Todd
Kane
Clay
Mebude
Subs
Mehmet
Hamilton
Fisher
Fogarty
Wotherspoon
Sutherland
Young
Cooper
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 23 Nov 17:37)
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Topic Originator: Dafc96
Date: Sat 23 Nov 14:58
According to mcpakes weekly update fully fit squad no forgarty no Lewis to name but a few must have been a virus hitting the last 24 hours
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 23 Nov 15:03
Fogarty is on the bench. Wighton had some fluid removed from a knee I think.
Post Edited (Sat 23 Nov 15:04)
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 23 Nov 15:04
Fully fit squad but no Wighton or O`Halloran.
Edit, just seen Ecks edit
Post Edited (Sat 23 Nov 15:05)
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 23 Nov 15:06
Don’t agree with the central midfield pairing. Hopefully I’m wrong but it’s far too slow. We really miss Otoo in that position. I can only guess they’ll be expecting Todd to track back more rather than sit behind Kane.
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Topic Originator: Dafc96
Date: Sat 23 Nov 15:11
Fogarty not in squad on flash score app
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 15:24
This is the line up from the official team sheet
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Sat 23 Nov 15:25
Doing well holding them to 0 - 0 so far, hopefully they won`t spoil it by kicking the match off!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 15:37
Ayr United
Russell
Stanger
Devlin
McMann
McKenzie
Dempsey
Rus
Reading
Henderson
Oakley
McLennan
Subs
Bavidge
Musonda
Hastie
Howley
McAllister
McIntyre
Murphy
Syla
Watret
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 15:53
Game has kicked off
Corner Pars
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:17
Zero shots so far…..life under Mcpake.
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:23
And Ayr`s keeper is suspect as ......we should be shooting at every opportunity -he is about 5ft8ins
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Topic Originator: dafc-chris1
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:27
We have had more possession though
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:28
Listening to the St Mirren v Aberdeen game - sorry lol - St M one up and red card to Rogic has been downgraded to a yellow. John Beaton ref isnae going to be popular 😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:29
“ Shooting at every opportunity??” Not in Mcpakes coaching manual I’m afraid
G.B
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:32
Hmm, you think McPake tells the players not to shoot? Strange thought indeed.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:33
We’ve had a shot OFF target after a corner yay
Trying to get excited jeesh
I’m watching our game on bet365
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:33
Sounds like we’ve not tested their keeper once so far. Pretty poor but the positive is we’ve no conceded yet…
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:37
Quote:
Paralex, Sat 23 Nov 16:32
Hmm, you think McPake tells the players not to shoot? Strange thought indeed.
No. He just sets them up to play in a fashion where it happens naturally.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 23 Nov 16:41
That`s funny, I thought we had plenty opportunities to shoot last week but some players decided to transfer the responsibility to a team mate and the chance was lost. Nothing to do with formation, more to do with lack of confidence to take a pot at goal.
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Topic Originator: DrumRoad
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:03
Win this & we move up to 6th…… ha
2022/23 League one Winners
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:03
Hamilton on for Clay
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:09
Mcpake`s pre-match comments:-
“Chris Kane’s fit and has looked a lot sharper this week, to be fair. His training load has been good so there are no issues now in terms of having to worry about him fatiguing or certain things in a game.”
Hooked after 59 minutes.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:10
Goal Ayr
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: pars no1
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:12
We are utter ****
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:16
Well, if we don`t start shooting now it`s game over.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:17
1-0 down, presumably game over now.
Still plenty on here will be rushing to tell us we’re much better than the league table shows or performances suggest and are just about to come good….
The penny will drop eventually…
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:17
Sutherland on for Kane
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:18
Quote:
Bannockburn Par, Sat 23 Nov 16:17
Zero shots so far…..life under Mcpake.
Exactly this. He needs punted ASAP! It’s actually hard to put into words how bad the football has been under him.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:18
Here`s Berkey
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:19
We are nowhere near good enough.
Thank god Airdrie are worse than us.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:20
Reports state Ayr have been far the better team and more than deserve their league. Why on earth does it seem like McPake has one of the safest jobs in football. He should have been sacked months ago…
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:27
Are we ever going to turn a corner and play well under McPake for a consistent period? I doubt it
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:27
Never Mind Berkey and his comments , I am normally hoping as long as there is time left we can get a Goal ! but you certainly need to be shooting more to try and score ! for me it looks like game over already now that Ayr have scored !
As someone else said thank God Airdrie are worse than us not that it helps us being in the play off spot !
We are really at present Garbage !
Pity the game wasn`t postponed
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:28
Feel like the statement put out was already excuses
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:34
Not even managed a shot since we’ve went a goal down. Usually teams put the opposition under constant pressure in the last 10-15 mins if they’re a goal down!
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:36
This is getting ridiculous, we’re just avoiding the inevitable now, so sooner we act the better. McPake has to go.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:39
The worst thing is as soon as we go a goal down you know it`s pretty much inevitable. The team and it`s management have absolutely no clue what to do
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Topic Originator: wetherby
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:40
some of our performances are worse than I remember in the late 70s/early 80s and they were bad.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:47
Da no 1 if I only appear when we lose why are you seeing so much of me?
I’ll give you a hint, it’s because we lose most weeks….
But yes let’s get berkey and ignore the fact we lose 3 times as many as we win.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:52
That`s the worst "performance" I have seen from us in a long time. Those in charge ought to hang their heads in shame for what they`ve done to this club.
MCPAKE OUT NOW!
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:58
Lose the first goal and it`s done and dusted, infact i looked back and the last time we got anything from a league game after going behind was the last time at Ayr in the 3-3 game.
Watching Falkirk last night and they were polar opposite of us. Direct football, getting the ball moved out early to wide players with everyone pushing forward and not giving the opposition a minutes peace with the wingers on each side carrying a real threat.
We`d just do it at a canter, use 6 passes when only 2 are needed and allow the opposition the chance to get back behind the ball and regain their shape.
Granted Falkirk have superior wide players to us (most teams in the league do to be fair) but the frustrating thing is it`s in there somewhere - look o at the Raith game - yet we continue to be so passive and have no urgency or aggression in our play what so ever.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
Post Edited (Sat 23 Nov 17:59)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 Nov 17:58
Might have been a bad performance yet again but the important thing was that we got our excuse in before kick off so we know who will get blamed for professional players not being able to string 2 passes together while the opposition manage it no problem.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:05
Manager straight down the tunnel with no appreciation for fans who have travelled for hours in treacherous conditions to watch that sh*t. He’s an absolute disgrace & a complete coward.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:06
They had lost the game already with that statement pre game - terrible mind set and organisation again to not at least have food on board the bus knowing there was a chance of delays but at least James has his excuse for this weeks defeat already out in the public domain 😃
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:10
Quote:
Bamba-Daft, Sat 23 Nov 18:05
Manager straight down the tunnel with no appreciation for fans who have travelled for hours in treacherous conditions to watch that sh*t. He’s an absolute disgrace & a complete coward.
He lost any respect with his antics last week complete and utter fud of a man.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: JimDAFC
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:10
The worrying thing though is I think Airdrie will get better but I can`t see us improving under James as our style of play hasn`t changed for 2 seasons or more. Maybe need someone else from within the club to take over as an interim manager until the takeover occurs.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:20
At least season tickets should be cheaper in League 1.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
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Topic Originator: TommyR
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:34
It`s a horrible situation to be in. McPake knows his managerial career is over when he leaves, and the board are too stubborn to sack him.
The fact we`re for sale with allegedly a deal close to closing makes it hurt even more, knowing that we`re effectively in limbo whilst the above takes place.
Just how much damage is either party going to allow before something happens. McPake should just walk at this point if the germans are going to be so stubborn.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:34
Quote:
The Boss, Sat 23 Nov 18:20
At least season tickets should be cheaper in League 1.
Wonder how many invested in half year tickets yesterday…..
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:43
Mcpakes time is up, it’s clearly no improving
Effe
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:48
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 23 Nov 17:47
Da no 1 if I only appear when we lose why are you seeing so much of me?
I’ll give you a hint, it’s because we lose most weeks….
But yes let’s get berkey and ignore the fact we lose 3 times as many as we win.
Maybe so, but its depressing enough without listening to your greetin puss.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:51
Quote:
JTH123, Sat 23 Nov 18:48
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 23 Nov 17:47
Da no 1 if I only appear when we lose why are you seeing so much of me?
I’ll give you a hint, it’s because we lose most weeks….
But yes let’s get berkey and ignore the fact we lose 3 times as many as we win.
Maybe so, but its depressing enough without listening to your greetin puss.
Tbf… it’s no really Berkeys fault
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:53
Quote:
JTH123, Sat 23 Nov 18:48
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 23 Nov 17:47
Da no 1 if I only appear when we lose why are you seeing so much of me?
I’ll give you a hint, it’s because we lose most weeks….
But yes let’s get berkey and ignore the fact we lose 3 times as many as we win.
Maybe so, but its depressing enough without listening to your greetin puss.
Just don’t read it then? You can easily scroll past when you see his name 🙄 bet you are one of these people that moans about a TV show but doesn’t change the channel……
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:57
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 17:18
Here`s Berkey
Give it a rest...
You'd sniff his farts if you could.
We take less shots that 2008-2012 Spain but they were actually clinical when they went into the box.
Post Edited (Sat 23 Nov 18:59)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Nov 18:59
Fan club incoming
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:00
Quote:
Andrew283, Sat 23 Nov 18:57
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 17:18
Here`s Berkey
Give it a rest...
You`d sniff his farts if you could..
That`s a really strange thing to put on a public forum. Have a word with yourself.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Sat 23 Nov 19:00)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:04
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 19:00
Quote:
Andrew283, Sat 23 Nov 18:57
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 17:18
Here`s Berkey
Give it a rest...
You`d sniff his farts if you could..
That`s a really strange thing to put on a public forum. Have a word with yourself.
Maybe if you stopped taking pops at the same people on every post then you wouldn’t get called out for being obsessed………
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:05
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 23 Nov 19:04
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 19:00
Quote:
Andrew283, Sat 23 Nov 18:57
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 17:18
Here`s Berkey
Give it a rest...
You`d sniff his farts if you could..
That`s a really strange thing to put on a public forum. Have a word with yourself.
Maybe if you stopped taking pops at the same people on every post then you wouldn’t get called out for being obsessed………
OK Dave.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:16
Back to the game.
I thought that was the worst yet under Mcpake.
We offered nothing, it was just so bad.
Tobi, Bene, Comrie and Otoo were decent enough, the rest were poor.
Any other club would`ve sacked the manager by now, so hopefully, the boardroom unrest clears up quickly as this surely can`t go on.
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: JTH123
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:16
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 23 Nov 18:53
Quote:
JTH123, Sat 23 Nov 18:48
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 23 Nov 17:47
Da no 1 if I only appear when we lose why are you seeing so much of me?
I’ll give you a hint, it’s because we lose most weeks….
But yes let’s get berkey and ignore the fact we lose 3 times as many as we win.
Maybe so, but its depressing enough without listening to your greetin puss.
Just don’t read it then? You can easily scroll past when you see his name 🙄 bet you are one of these people that moans about a TV show but doesn’t change the channel……
What do you think I`ve been doing for the past 2 seasons? Sometimes you think to yourself, I`m going to say something. A bit like you just did, no?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:18
Absolute dugsh*te yet again…that team should have a good long hard look at themselves if they are happy under McPake and his brutal formations…..
I would be very surprised if they like playing the McPake way….
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: mars par
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:18
If McPake walks now he can say he has promoted Dundee and Dunfermline from their respective leagues, that will surely be a positive for a club that feel they deserve to be in the league above (say Inverness). It`s not too bad a CV for a young manager
Obviously there`s the financial risk for him walking away but surely he sees the writing on the wall and knows that if he sticks around he`ll have a relegation on his CV, making him far less attractive to future employers. He`s got to be holding out for the takeover to get a payout but the longer it drags on the worse it is for him in terms of future roles
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Topic Originator: Dafc96
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:24
No interview after the game yet…. Maybe he’s penning his resignation 🤔
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:24
Our BODs are spineless even the so-called local ones can`t agree amongst themselves. He`s going nowhere we are stuck with him and the apparent professional football players we have currently.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:30
Dafc96 I’ve just posted that on another post.
Usually we get post game comments within the hour and as of yet nothing. Wonder if a resignation post is incoming? 2 weeks until next league game, timing wise would make sense.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:32
More likely they’re trying to quickly get back home given the weather.
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Topic Originator: Dafc96
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:36
My apologies ahoy never read yer comment
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:39
Granted we would have played a game more ,but a win gave us thevopertunity to go 6th ,Surely that was a big enough incentative to go out and win ,but NOPE.Waiting for the travel and lack of rest time prior to K.O. At least management and BOD Has something different to blame .Sad times being a pars fan
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:39
Mcpake is going nowhere! Won’t be sacked if clubs in process of being sold. Unfortunately got to lumber it until we have been taken over
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:42
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 19:05
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 23 Nov 19:04
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 19:00
Quote:
Andrew283, Sat 23 Nov 18:57
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 23 Nov 17:18
Here`s Berkey
Give it a rest...
You`d sniff his farts if you could..
That`s a really strange thing to put on a public forum. Have a word with yourself.
Maybe if you stopped taking pops at the same people on every post then you wouldn’t get called out for being obsessed………
OK Dave.
Dave’s got a point
COYP
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:53
In the context of it being a spectator sport in the first instance tge game should probably have been cancelled.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sat 23 Nov 19:53
Quote:
Indiapar, Sat 23 Nov 19:53
In the context of it being a spectator sport in the first instance, the game should probably have been cancelled due to the weather.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:01
Quote:
Berry, Sat 23 Nov 19:32
More likely they’re trying to quickly get back home given the weather.
They didn`t stream it, but did Pars TV go at all? Wouldn`t be surprised if not, so wouldn`t expect a post-match interview.
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The universe is ruled by chance and indifference
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:02
Tbh even if the sun was glaring down and the pitch perfect….McPake would have players the same team in the shitty formation like usual..He has another excuse about the weather but imo it wouldn’t have made a difference!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:04
, Rigger Al It doesn`t matter what the incentive is for this bunch of players they serve us up crap week in week out !
There is only so much people will take and then the gates will drop off , and when that happens it isn`t easy to get people back
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:10
The interview that usually goes straight onto website is the one done with the press etc
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:14
Quote:
parsfan97, Sat 23 Nov 19:39
Mcpake is going nowhere! Won’t be sacked if clubs in process of being sold. Unfortunately got to lumber it until we have been taken over
This. Just have to sit tight.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:24
There are some post-match comments on the BBC Sports website. He wasn`t happy with the SPFL.
Actually all the away teams in Scotland lost today apart from DU who got a point at Ibrox. I don`t know if that`s significant. Celtic could confound that stat at Tynecastle tonight of course.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:30
His excuses were already made pre match…. Except it’s the exact same way we’ve played all season near enough. Slow passive football with barely any shots on target. **** all to do with some of the excuses made in that statement
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:34
Presumably that was an edited version. The BBC would pick the most controversial bit I would think.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 23 Nov 20:42
How long does the normal fan have to put up with this? Di we have to just go along with the ***** paying money?
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 23 Nov 23:20
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sat 23 Nov 20:42
How long does the normal fan have to put up with this? Di we have to just go along with the ***** paying money?
Eh! How many "Normal" fans have you met?
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Sun 24 Nov 01:12
I doubt he is worried about relegation on his CV. We started the season with one goalkeeper, every signing window under Meggle and the rest of the clownshow was utter horrific. He has been hobbled by those charlatans. The Simpsons episode when the Germans bought Burns`s power plant came true and that will save him. He won`t resign.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 07:22
I`d have understood the point of all away teams (with the exception of Celtic) losing if we played differently than usual. Unfortunately we were the usual pars team slow, passive and severely lacking creativity. The manager post match interview is the same every week their keeper was quiet but so was Tobi. It`s garbage to watch and as soon as we go behind you can pretty much guarantee the game is done.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sun 24 Nov 08:06
The facial expressions of Kane after being substituted when talking to McPake were telling.
Directly in his face with a steely determination. No blinking. Looking for answers. Then after taking his place on the bench McPake turning round looking exasperated after the exchange. The signs do not look good in the dressing room if one of the senior players is doing this. Has the dressing room been lost?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 24 Nov 09:20
I think the dressing room has been lost. Would the players want to play that brutal slow defensive football or attacking high press looking for goals?
I just don’t get McPakes starting 11 when he puts Otto in defence and we have 3 CB’s on the bench. Chalmers and Clay just doesn’t work in midfield.
It’s just boring crap football.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Sun 24 Nov 09:22
Personally, I think the issue is the league structure. In the Premiership, if you are playing Rangers or Celtic, there is a good chance you are going to beatent beaten 4 times in season. It hardly represents good entertainment, and when the league is virtually a foregone conclusion by Christmas, what is the incentive for fans to go and watch. You have to be a die-hard supporter to watch every Saturday, and there lies the biggest issue. How does a sport like that provide entertainment and attract supporters and investment.
The championship has similar issues. A league identified as competitive in reality for one reason or another produces little excitement and few goals. With a few points separating 3rd or 4th and bottom, it`s little wonder. Most of the games I have been to this season teams are setting up not to lose the game. You can only play as well as the opposition let`s you, and that amounts to poor entertainment value.
The warning signs for the SPFL are there with clubs going into administration. Well supported clubs like Dunfermline, Falkirk, unable to compete at a higher level, struggling financially, just bouncing between divisions. It takes money to gain promotion and more money to stay up. It`s one thing getting promoted. it`s another being able to stay up. It`s the SPFL system that is wrong in my view. I do hope that we bring in investors who can offer a different perspective, challenge the current status quo, and bring in new fresh ideas to the sport, and get it back the spectator sport that it should be.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sun 24 Nov 10:34
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Indiapar, Sun 24 Nov 09:22
Personally, I think the issue is the league structure. In the Premiership, if you are playing Rangers or Celtic, there is a good chance you are going to beatent beaten 4 times in season. It hardly represents good entertainment, and when the league is virtually a foregone conclusion by Christmas, what is the incentive for fans to go and watch. You have to be a die-hard supporter to watch every Saturday, and there lies the biggest issue. How does a sport like that provide entertainment and attract supporters and investment.
The championship has similar issues. A league identified as competitive in reality for one reason or another produces little excitement and few goals. With a few points separating 3rd or 4th and bottom, it`s little wonder. Most of the games I have been to this season teams are setting up not to lose the game. You can only play as well as the opposition let`s you, and that amounts to poor entertainment value.
The warning signs for the SPFL are there with clubs going into administration. Well supported clubs like Dunfermline, Falkirk, unable to compete at a higher level, struggling financially, just bouncing between divisions. It takes money to gain promotion and more money to stay up. It`s one thing getting promoted. it`s another being able to stay up. It`s the SPFL system that is wrong in my view. I do hope that we bring in investors who can offer a different perspective, challenge the current status quo, and bring in new fresh ideas to the sport, and get it back the spectator sport that it should be.
As much as I agree that we could have a better league structure I don’t know what that got to do with McPake picking Joe Chalmers and Craig Clay in the same team?
COYP
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Sun 24 Nov 11:41
Quote:
parsmad68, Sun 24 Nov 08:06
The facial expressions of Kane after being substituted when talking to McPake were telling.
Directly in his face with a steely determination. No blinking. Looking for answers. Then after taking his place on the bench McPake turning round looking exasperated after the exchange. The signs do not look good in the dressing room if one of the senior players is doing this. Has the dressing room been lost?
To go along with that, more than a few times Bene had his head in his hands at some of the other players and the lack of movement, etc, and more than once was digging out other players.
Why was the manager not doing similar?
If the captain is getting exasperated with our current play, along with Kanes` reaction to being subbed, the signs aren`t good.
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sun 24 Nov 12:09
The likes of Kane , Bene and and a couple of others are seasoned pro,s who know the game inside out are getting exasperated with the pathetic tactics we play , then the game is up for Mcpake , let Bene take the team for the rest of season at least he will istill some fight into a hapless lot that look beat every time the opposition score . COYP
G.B
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 12:15
Bene post match interview is how everyone saw the game but mcpake basically the polar opposite. Bene doesn`t seem bothered about ruffling a few feathers with his post match interviews but actions speak louder than words.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Sun 24 Nov 12:24)
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sun 24 Nov 12:36
cammypar 1995 wrote:
> Bene post match interview is how everyone saw the game but
> mcpake basically the polar opposite. Bene doesn`t seem bothered
> about ruffling a few feathers with his post match interviews
> but actions speak louder than words.
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> Post Edited (Sun 24 Nov 12:24)
Breath of fresh air when you get some honesty.
Horrible rut the investors have left us in, change is needed but the cowards won`t address it.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 24 Nov 12:45
If you`re referring to the Bene interview I saw then he was being critical of the players rather than the manager.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 12:51
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wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 12:45
If you`re referring to the Bene interview I saw then he was being critical of the players rather than the manager.
Yes but the manager was trying to say there was nothing in the game which wasnt true. Bene said we weren't the better side which is how the majority saw the game. Someone is not calling it how it was and I don`t think that person is Bene.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Sun 24 Nov 13:20)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 24 Nov 13:02
I wasn`t at the game so I don`t have an opinion but none of the comments and reports I`ve read suggest we were the better side! Why would the manager not say that if he thought it was the case?
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 24 Nov 13:12
Quote:
Indiapar, Sun 24 Nov 09:22
Personally, I think the issue is the league structure. In the Premiership, if you are playing Rangers or Celtic, there is a good chance you are going to beatent beaten 4 times in season. It hardly represents good entertainment, and when the league is virtually a foregone conclusion by Christmas, what is the incentive for fans to go and watch. You have to be a die-hard supporter to watch every Saturday, and there lies the biggest issue. How does a sport like that provide entertainment and attract supporters and investment.
The championship has similar issues. A league identified as competitive in reality for one reason or another produces little excitement and few goals. With a few points separating 3rd or 4th and bottom, it`s little wonder. Most of the games I have been to this season teams are setting up not to lose the game. You can only play as well as the opposition let`s you, and that amounts to poor entertainment value.
The warning signs for the SPFL are there with clubs going into administration. Well supported clubs like Dunfermline, Falkirk, unable to compete at a higher level, struggling financially, just bouncing between divisions. It takes money to gain promotion and more money to stay up. It`s one thing getting promoted. it`s another being able to stay up. It`s the SPFL system that is wrong in my view. I do hope that we bring in investors who can offer a different perspective, challenge the current status quo, and bring in new fresh ideas to the sport, and get it back the spectator sport that it should be.
and sadly there is a good chance of us getting beat by anyone ,Cant remember the last time I was fully confident of a win home or away .
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 13:19
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 13:02
I wasn`t at the game so I don`t have an opinion but none of the comments and reports I`ve read suggest we were the better side! Why would the manager not say that if he thought it was the case?
That`s a typo and meant to read weren`t and he said as much throughout his interview which if you listen to mcpake it`s completely different.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 24 Nov 13:23
How many other typos have you made in your comments? You thought we finished 8th last season - was that a typo too?!!!
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 24 Nov 13:27
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 24 Nov 13:19
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 13:02
I wasn`t at the game so I don`t have an opinion but none of the comments and reports I`ve read suggest we were the better side! Why would the manager not say that if he thought it was the case?
That`s a typo and meant to read weren`t and he said as much throughout his interview which if you listen to mcpake it`s completely different.
If our manager who on more than one occasion this season comes out with we were the better team week in week out ,then this confims he needs to go
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 14:01
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 13:23
How many other typos have you made in your comments? You thought we finished 8th last season - was that a typo too?!!!
Probably the same amount of comments you just ignore. Any time you want a proper conversation let me know.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 14:02
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 24 Nov 14:01
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 24 Nov 13:23
How many other typos have you made in your comments? You thought we finished 8th last season - was that a typo too?!!!
Probably the same amount of comments you just ignore as you know others are talking sense. Any time you want a proper conversation let me know.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 24 Nov 14:18
Would be tiring answering all your posts twice
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 14:19
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 24 Nov 14:18
Would be tiring answering all your posts twice
Sometimes you need to repeat yourself to try and make others see the wood from the trees.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 24 Nov 14:20
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 24 Nov 14:19
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 24 Nov 14:18
Would be tiring answering all your posts twice
Sometimes you need to repeat yourself to try and make others see the wood from the trees.
What about the posters that say the same thing over and over and over again?
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 14:24
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 24 Nov 14:20
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 24 Nov 14:19
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 24 Nov 14:18
Would be tiring answering all your posts twice
Sometimes you need to repeat yourself to try and make others see the wood from the trees.
What about the posters that say the same thing over and over and over again?
Say that again ?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 24 Nov 14:33
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 24 Nov 14:24
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 24 Nov 14:20
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 24 Nov 14:19
Quote:
da_no_1, Sun 24 Nov 14:18
Would be tiring answering all your posts twice
Sometimes you need to repeat yourself to try and make others see the wood from the trees.
What about the posters that say the same thing over and over and over again?
Say that again ?
Eh? 😋
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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