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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 07:26
Was seen outside eep alone on Friday with the rest of the squad training at Rosyth. Not included yesterday or in the last few reserve games. Anyone know if he is injured? I assume not considering mcpake hasn`t mentioned it in his interviews when asked about any injuries.
Will the club try and terminate his contract on a mutual agreement type deal. I`m sure they did something similar with Dorrans when he was posted missing from the match day squads.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Sun 24 Nov 08:22
Guys in the top five biggest wage thief`s to play for us. For the length of deal, the money he`s likely on and contribution. Truly awful signing.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 24 Nov 09:15
The worst signing McPake has made.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Sun 24 Nov 09:29
He’s had a decent career, representing Scotland at different age levels, Bolton, Rangers, St Johnstone. He looks the part, a player McKay knew, but doesn’t appear to be in the manager’s plans, not sure what’s gone wrong.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 24 Nov 09:35
Yeah thanks for recommending your mate Dave.
Had heard he gets a decent appearance fee hence why he’s effectively finished at the club. Could have been opportunities to move on at the summer but wants to sit his deal out as still the best offer.
Top of the long list of poor mcpake signings including those he has kept.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 24 Nov 10:46
Maybe there is something going on in his personal life that is affecting his mental health?
No doubt the sleuths on .net will come up with an answer.🤔
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 24 Nov 11:33
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Sun 24 Nov 10:46
Maybe there is something going on in his personal life that is affecting his mental health?
No doubt the sleuths on .net will come up with an answer.🤔
I guess you never know. I`m always deeply uncomfortable with "wage thief" chat. You never know for sure what`s going on in anyone`s life.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 24 Nov 12:05
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Sun 24 Nov 11:33
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Sun 24 Nov 10:46
Maybe there is something going on in his personal life that is affecting his mental health?
No doubt the sleuths on .net will come up with an answer.🤔
I guess you never know. I`m always deeply uncomfortable with "wage thief" chat. You never know for sure what`s going on in anyone`s life.
….or conversations that are going on in the background
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Topic Originator: xgatesmafia
Date: Sun 24 Nov 12:48
Basically everyone called this a shocking signing the moment it was announced. What was even worse was the length of deal. He had a torrid time in a relegated Cove side by all accounts. we make Man United seem like a well run football club. There isn’t a bigger shambles in the Spfl.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 24 Nov 12:51
At least he’ll be gone this summer, I suppose! That’s one bit of comfort about it all.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 13:21
Quote:
Buster_Brown, Sun 24 Nov 12:51
At least he’ll be gone this summer, I suppose! That’s one bit of comfort about it all.
Will he ? Remember when mcpake handed deals to the likes of wighton Mehmet and Chalmers. Do you trust mcpake with another transfer window? I certainly don`t.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 24 Nov 15:06
Buster quite a few will be gone this summer. Prob most if not all of those out of contract. Mcpake won’t be here to resign these guys again.
We just need to stay up.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 24 Nov 15:07
My personal take is that he`s lost his one trick, his pace, and is basically very limited without it.
In saying that, he`s a human being and on that level I hope it isn`t mental health related.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 24 Nov 17:28
Feel this is a bit harsh. The boy played 27 league games for us last season - and was an unused sub for most of the other matches. He played out of position most of the time, put in plenty of effort and did a reasonable job.
I feel he`s been tarnished because he was our only real signing at the very start of the 23/24 season and wasn`t fit immediately.
Obviously, something has gone wrong this year but it`s unfair to put him in the `wage thief` category.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
Post Edited (Sun 24 Nov 17:28)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 24 Nov 18:00
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 24 Nov 17:28
Feel this is a bit harsh. The boy played 27 league games for us last season - and was an unused sub for most of the other matches. He played out of position most of the time, put in plenty of effort and did a reasonable job.
I feel he`s been tarnished because he was our only real signing at the very start of the 23/24 season and wasn`t fit immediately.
Obviously, something has gone wrong this year but it`s unfair to put him in the `wage thief` category.
He still has some way to go to beat Dorrans
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Sun 24 Nov 18:58)
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 24 Nov 18:20
Not having Dorrans either. People decided he was on 2.5k per week and then lost their $h!t because he wasn`t Messi.
He had a very bad game against Thistle at the start of the season and then at Ibrox. He was pretty decent aside from that, albeit he had a couple of injuries.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: The Boss
Date: Sun 24 Nov 20:27
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 24 Nov 18:20
Not having Dorrans either. People decided he was on 2.5k per week and then lost their $h!t because he wasn`t Messi.
He had a very bad game against Thistle at the start of the season and then at Ibrox. He was pretty decent aside from that, albeit he had a couple of injuries.
Dorrans was absolutely honking. I just remember him going through the motions when we were relegated by Queens Park. He would have been better sitting in the stand. You expect so much more from a guy that had such a decent career. Some other decent pros let us down that day too.
I like black and white (dreaming of black and white)
You like black and white
Run run away
Post Edited (Sun 24 Nov 20:27)
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 24 Nov 20:41
Signing any Scottish players that never really made first team starters for the old firm but just got the money is never a good choice.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 24 Nov 20:41
I thought he was by far our best player in the game we lost 1-0 at home
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Sun 24 Nov 20:43
Dorrans was our best player in both games against Queens Park.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sun 24 Nov 20:45
He seemed to want more time on the ball then you are ever going to get at this level.
In fairness though that goes both bays and if you are used to playing with better players you`d be used to them picking up positions and movement off the ball.
Either way he never really adapted. Also he had a pop at fan(s) in one game - Ayr possibly - so his fate was pretty much sealed from the start.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 24 Nov 21:09
No-one knows what`s going on with him. If he wants to play then he knows what he needs to do. If he doesn`t, he also knows.
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Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC
Date: Mon 25 Nov 23:47
Michael O’halloran has played 32 games for us (1802 minutes in total) and has managed 1 goal and 1 assist. Says it all.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Tue 26 Nov 08:57
It doesn`t though. He was often filling in as a wing-back for a manager who sets up not to lose goals.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 26 Nov 10:20
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Tue 26 Nov 08:57
It doesn`t though. He was often filling in as a wing-back for a manager who sets up not to lose goals.
Have to agree with this.
McPake`s a rank amateur.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Tue 26 Nov 11:04
Must be so so frustrating being a pro footballer playing under McPake.
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Tue 26 Nov 12:24
RMGpar wrote:
> Must be so so frustrating being a pro footballer playing under
> McPake.
>
> G.B
You get that impression after Bene,s interview on after the Ayr game on Saturday
G.B
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Tue 26 Nov 12:31
I actually forgot he played for us
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Topic Originator: par-91
Date: Tue 26 Nov 13:15
Out of interest, have those who have been playing done much better? I’d imagine KRH has played around 1,700 mins this season, plays most weeks, and must only have 1 goal, 1 assist?
Certainly suggests that O’Halloran’s not necessarily the issue if his stats are similar to those that play more regularly. Tactics are the big problem and the (lack of) game plan to create chances from open play.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 26 Nov 13:20
Quote:
par-91, Tue 26 Nov 13:15
Out of interest, have those who have been playing done much better? I’d imagine KRH has played around 1,700 mins this season, plays most weeks, and must only have 1 goal, 1 assist?
Certainly suggests that O’Halloran’s not necessarily the issue if his stats are similar to those that play more regularly. Tactics are the big problem and the (lack of) game plan to create chances from open play.
That’s my thoughts as well. Maybe something has happened in the background with MOH that we don’t know about but I don’t think his ability is what’s keeping him out of the team.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Kyle DAFC
Date: Tue 26 Nov 13:25
KRH has played 2675 minutes (last season and this combined) and has 3 goals and 3 assists.
Whilst I don’t think O’halloran has done anywhere near enough to be near the team I do accept he has on occasion been played out of position but did have a decent amount of chances in his natural position last season and didn’t produce.
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Topic Originator: doctordandruff
Date: Tue 26 Nov 13:43
I can`t remember who said it, but they were complaining about how football has just become data analysis. I wonder if we lean far too much on that. I can`t think of any other reason for not playing Otoo in midfield, especially as he can be a threat for a goal or assist. Maybe his `goals prevented` outweigh `goals created`. Or maybe McPake is just guff. Tis a mystery.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Tue 26 Nov 13:44
Tbh it’s difficult to judge most players when the team is set up so badly and people are played out of position. I would love to see JMcP suddenly turn this around but unless Harry Potter helps him I can’t see it.
Would love to see an attack minded manager organise this squad as I do think we have the players.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 26 Nov 13:55
Not involved in today’s Reserve League game either. The more that happens and the more the question is not asked to McPake, the more speculation will spread.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 26 Nov 14:18
Quote:
doctordandruff, Tue 26 Nov 13:43
I can`t remember who said it, but they were complaining about how football has just become data analysis. I wonder if we lean far too much on that. I can`t think of any other reason for not playing Otoo in midfield, especially as he can be a threat for a goal or assist. Maybe his `goals prevented` outweigh `goals created`. Or maybe McPake is just guff. Tis a mystery.
The idea that McPake uses data is utterly hilarious 😂
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 26 Nov 15:22
Quote:
par-91, Tue 26 Nov 13:15
Out of interest, have those who have been playing done much better? I’d imagine KRH has played around 1,700 mins this season, plays most weeks, and must only have 1 goal, 1 assist?
Certainly suggests that O’Halloran’s not necessarily the issue if his stats are similar to those that play more regularly. Tactics are the big problem and the (lack of) game plan to create chances from open play.
That’s a fair point and whenever I have seen him play, he’s always put in a power of work.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 26 Nov 15:23)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 26 Nov 15:27
Whenever MOH played he showed that he still had a turn of pace but the frustrating thing for me was that he always seemed to run into trouble which I could not understand from such an experienced player.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Tue 26 Nov 15:41
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 26 Nov 14:18
Quote:
doctordandruff, Tue 26 Nov 13:43
I can`t remember who said it, but they were complaining about how football has just become data analysis. I wonder if we lean far too much on that. I can`t think of any other reason for not playing Otoo in midfield, especially as he can be a threat for a goal or assist. Maybe his `goals prevented` outweigh `goals created`. Or maybe McPake is just guff. Tis a mystery.
The idea that McPake uses data is utterly hilarious 😂
He does. After every game the match data analysis is provided to him.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 26 Nov 15:54
The reserves beat DU 1-0 by the way. Jake Sutherland scored the goal.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 26 Nov 16:40
Quote:
buffy, Tue 26 Nov 15:41
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Tue 26 Nov 14:18
Quote:
doctordandruff, Tue 26 Nov 13:43
I can`t remember who said it, but they were complaining about how football has just become data analysis. I wonder if we lean far too much on that. I can`t think of any other reason for not playing Otoo in midfield, especially as he can be a threat for a goal or assist. Maybe his `goals prevented` outweigh `goals created`. Or maybe McPake is just guff. Tis a mystery.
The idea that McPake uses data is utterly hilarious 😂
He does. After every game the match data analysis is provided to him.
Then his "use" of it is appealing.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar
Date: Tue 26 Nov 16:43
MOH has had a history of hamstring and knee injuries. As you get older these injuries reoccur and are harder to shake off. He may simply be injured and is in rehabilitation.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 26 Nov 16:43
Your spelling is `appealing` unless you`ve changed your mind very quickly!
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 26 Nov 17:02
Quote:
doctordandruff, Tue 26 Nov 13:43
I can`t remember who said it, but they were complaining about how football has just become data analysis. I wonder if we lean far too much on that. I can`t think of any other reason for not playing Otoo in midfield, especially as he can be a threat for a goal or assist. Maybe his `goals prevented` outweigh `goals created`. Or maybe McPake is just guff. Tis a mystery.
Scotland in general is miles behind in regards to data analysis. I genuinely don’t think we have that sort of facilities
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 26 Nov 17:21
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 26 Nov 16:43
Your spelling is `appealing` unless you`ve changed your mind very quickly!
I think we know what I meant🤣
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 26 Nov 17:59
Mcpake must get real time first had analysis given we’re now resorting to removing poor out of form players at half time and replacing them with different poor out of form players.
Those that came on half time get to start the next game until half time when they are subbed for those they replaced the previous week.
Rinse and repeat.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Tue 26 Nov 18:30
Maybe as was suggested earlier, he has a bonus built into his deal ,based on appearances, and is close to triggering this , Inis Hagi had this problem at Rangers ,where the board said the player was not to be played ,where both parties had to negotiate a way forward
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 26 Nov 22:15
Quote:
Kyle DAFC, Mon 25 Nov 23:47
Michael O’halloran has played 32 games for us (1802 minutes in total) and has managed 1 goal and 1 assist. Says it all.
You’ve probably got guys in your fort squad that put in more of an effort than this guy mate
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Topic Originator: Kincardine_Par
Date: Wed 27 Nov 21:12
No idea what’s happening behind the scenes but felt quite sorry for the guy tonight at the calendar signing, he was the only player at a table by himself
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 27 Nov 22:15
Quote:
Kincardine_Par, Wed 27 Nov 21:12
No idea what’s happening behind the scenes but felt quite sorry for the guy tonight at the calendar signing, he was the only player at a table by himself
That`s a poor show tbh. I know the whole sportsmanship mantra was a load of nonsense but don`t leave someone on their own. Hope he`s alright.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 27 Nov 23:55
There were players on their own last year - this was to allow kids to sit next to them for selfies etc. The manager told me they try to encourage the players to sit at individual tables to enable families to sit and speak with them but you’re always going to get players who don’t comply 😂
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Thu 28 Nov 12:31
I like MOH as a player and I would have loved to have seen him come good at the Pars. I think it`s a shame he`s being frozen out, for whatever reason.
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