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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 3 Dec 15:40
BBC Sport have a feature today asking readers to rank the 10 best centre backs in Premier League history. It`s linked to Virgil van Dijk`s recent form nullifying Mbappe and Haaland in successive games and it`s interesting to see the stats they have used to assess his career performances -
`The former Celtic player has won 148 of his 210 Premier League games for Liverpool, with his 70.5% win ratio - of centre-backs - only behind Manchester City defender John Stones and ex-Manchester United player Nemanja Vidic.
Only Vidic, Arsenal legend Tony Adams and Chelsea icon Terry have a higher clean sheet percentage than Van Dijk`s 43% at Liverpool (of players with 200 or more starts).
Van Dijk has won a higher percentage of duels and aerial duels than any other Premier League centre-back since 2006-07 (excluding those who have not been involved in many).
Of centre-backs to have played 3,500 minutes or more since January 2018, Van Dijk has been dribbled past less often per 90 minutes than anyone else. On average a player gets past him once every seven games (it has only happened 29 times).`
Incidentally, the 10 CBs they are asking to be ranked are Kompany, Vidic, Campbell, Stones, van Dijk, Adams, Ferdinand, Terry, Carvalho and Stam.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 3 Dec 17:09
Tony Adams is head and shoulders above Van Dijk and the rest of those on that list. They couldn`t lace his drinks far less his boots
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 3 Dec 17:16
Which stat did you use to measure that, r-s-p? Milligrams of alcohol per millilitre of blood? 😊😊😊
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 3 Dec 19:35
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 3 Dec 17:16
Which stat did you use to measure that, r-s-p? Milligrams of alcohol per millilitre of blood? 😊😊😊
If he can be better than all those guys wearing a black bin bag to sweat out a hangover in training, imagine how good he`d have been if he was trying.
Anyway. Nice to see you have a pop at someone who battled alcoholism through much of his career. Classless
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 3 Dec 19:45
I`m sorry you took it that way as that was not the intention. Your pun on `lace` wasn`t exactly blameless but that`s the politically correct world we live in. I`ve great admiration for what Tony Adams has done to overcome his problems and help others.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 3 Dec 20:37
The season with Carvalho and Terry together when Chelsea won the title under Mourinho was incredible.
15 conceeded in 38 games at that level is absolutely frightening and i think there was a run of nine consecutive league clean sheets in there as well at some point.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 4 Dec 09:45
TAFKA - that`s the stat that I don`t think will ever be beaten.
less than half a goal a game conceded across a whole season is just unbelievable.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 4 Dec 10:15
Not quite on topic, but in the "mad stats" envelope.
Hugo Sanchez scored 38 goals for Real Madrid in the 89/90 La Liga season - and every single one was a one-touch finish.
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I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet,
He's gonna pay for everyone this season.
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Topic Originator: Johan_Cruyff
Date: Wed 4 Dec 12:00
Another off topic Stat - everyone currently reading this has the same number of premier league goals this season as Foden and Savinho combined :-)
Anyways back on topic.... I did the quiz and had VVD behind, Stam, Terry, Ferdinand, Campbell and Adams
They played in an era with likes of Henry, Drogba, Shearer, Ferdinand etc its such a hard compare
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Wed 4 Dec 12:58
Also on that train of thought, I remember an interview with Gerard Houllier and Arsene Wenger and they were talking about the `golden generation` of French players coming through.
Apparently the pick of the bunch ahead of Henry, Trezeguet and everyone else was the centre back Philippe Christanval who they had nailed on #1 as the most potential to be a star but injuries ruined his career.
On a similar thinking - and obviously it`s hypothetical and woulda/coulda/shoulda - but theres an argument that Ferdinand and Terry wouldn`t have had nearly as many England caps if Ledley King had stayed injury free and likewise, albeit to a lesser extent, Jonathan Woodgate as well.
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