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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:06
Thought he had an absolute howler of a game tonight, many decisions for both teams I was baffled by.
One of the Scotland’s top referees, been doing European games. Aye nae bother. Can tell he never had VAR to give him a hand tonight.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:15
He’s no good enough for the Scottish championship. That was Sunday league level refereeing.
COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:28
Questionable for both teams in first half, then started to lose it as second half advanced.
Would, however, like to see the offside and both penalty shouts again though.
Can understand why both weren’t given from first view but thats why want to see them again.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:35
Otoo put a textbook challenge in and clearly won the ball. Result? Free kick. Oakley was given about four final warnings and he even spoke to the Ayr captain to tell him to calm down. Not giving a corner when the Ayr defender cleared it from Cooper (I think?) when the angle of the ball meant it could only have been a final touch by the Ayr player. First penalty looked like a soft but still definite penalty - that cart horse they brought in was well dodgy and gave away a foul not long after that - but while the second might have been hand ball it was hard to see and we should have been scoring anyway. Guys who are used to having VAR just don`t seem to cope without it. We saw that on the FA Cup at the weekend too.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:40
The corner one was Sutherland who put up zero fight about the decision, which generally means it was the right call. It did look like a corner mind you.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:45
"Guys who are used to having VAR just don`t seem to cope without it."
It`s definitely this. Excellent point. They`re used to being bailed out every week.
Oakley persistent fouling but no booking.
Otoo booked for a clean tackle that led to the opener.
Goal kick awarded for a clear tackle by the defender.
Offside given at 0-2 that came off Ayr player and Sutherland looked level.
McCann tripped but no penalty
Handball but no penalty.
Terrible performance from the ref. Ayr are a better team than us. To beat them we needed to be at our very best and get a wee break. With the injuries to key players, missed chances and that wank of a ref we were up against it.
Still plenty to be positive about. Heads should not go down. Win the next 2 and go into the Raith game full of confidence.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Tue 14 Jan 23:04)
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Topic Originator: Row_ZZ
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:46
Nothing wrong with Sutherland`s goal and we should have had two penalties. Unfortunately, this is the standard with Scottish officiating. They are complete idiots. Lots of people say they have sympathy for refs and fourth officials. I don`t. Thy`ll work well-paid jobs and their refereeing roles aren`t difficult.
Saying that, we were our own worst enemy for the two goals we conceded: complete defensive shitemares.
"A smile might be good!"
"Nothing to smile about in my life"
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Tue 14 Jan 22:47
I feel the Otoo challenge, yes he won the ball but he took the man too. In the modern game, it’s a foul. Certainly not a yellow though.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:09
One thing VAR has made clear is that referees make mistakes week in, week out. Every fan knew it and VAR just confirmed it. Not long after he booked Otoo he gave a foul against an Ayr player for a similar challenge. He just had a word with him though. The inconsistency is baffling.
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:20
I don`t think he was that bad.
The O`too tackle I can certainly see why he gave both a foul and a booking and that didn`t look a bad decision to me. On the possible push on McCann, I think it probably was a penalty but I`m not absolutely certain. One where even if it might have been wrong, I don`t think was a shocker of a decision. I couldn`t be sure of anything with the handball shout with so many players around it, so understandable that he couldn`t either.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:28
Did no one else see the defender kick McCann on the calf? Looked clear as day to me?!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: MikeyDee
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:52
The first penalty claim definitely wasn’t a penalty IMO, it would’ve been incredibly soft
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 14 Jan 23:54
Quote:
MikeyDee, Tue 14 Jan 23:52
The first penalty claim definitely wasn’t a penalty IMO, it would’ve been incredibly soft
I`m absolutely staggered you think that.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: MikeyDee
Date: Wed 15 Jan 00:23
I could be wrong! We’ll find out when the highlights are up
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Wed 15 Jan 07:07
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 14 Jan 23:54
Quote:
MikeyDee, Tue 14 Jan 23:52
The first penalty claim definitely wasn’t a penalty IMO, it would’ve been incredibly soft
I`m absolutely staggered you think that.
The worst bit about that whole bit of play was actually playing "advantage" for the foul on KRH at the edge of the box. McCann had 2 defenders on him, and being pushed towards the corner flag. There was no advantage to be played, and he should have pulled it back for the foul at the edge of the box.
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Wed 15 Jan 07:30
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 14 Jan 23:54
Quote:
MikeyDee, Tue 14 Jan 23:52
The first penalty claim definitely wasn’t a penalty IMO, it would’ve been incredibly soft
I`m absolutely staggered you think that.
Not a pen for me either, however did shout for it :-)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 15 Jan 08:56
I think referees rely on VAR they would prefer to look at it again instead of making a decision there and then. If he is the best we have in this country then it`s telling why we don`t have referees in charge of international games etc.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 15 Jan 09:03
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Wed 15 Jan 08:56
I think referees rely on VAR they would prefer to look at it again instead of making a decision there and then. If he is the best we have in this country then it`s telling why we don`t have referees in charge of international games etc.
Correct.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 15 Jan 09:19
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 14 Jan 23:28
Did no one else see the defender kick McCann on the calf? Looked clear as day to me?!
I thought he clipped McCann’s feet from where I was sitting. Thought it was a clear penalty but video highlights might prove me wrong.
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