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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 9 Feb 20:37
Iv never slated the guy before today but ffs what was going on with him? Left Chalmers open so many times in the first 30mins by not tracking back and looked lost. Needless fouls to give away for the 1st goal and his positioning/marking for the 2nd was brutal.
2 times he could have passed the ball to create better goal scoring chances and has a rugby shot over the bar…
And still played the full game. He was brutal today!
Chris Hamilton was the same and couldn’t pass a ball 10 yards..his positional play is questionable at times as he’s caught well out and seems to stand there…
Now these 2 either think they are 1st choices every game but both need a kick up the erse by Tidser…Both awful today and their attitude needs to change.
Post Edited (Sun 09 Feb 20:41)
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sun 9 Feb 20:46
We won’t move forward until Hamilton, McCann, Chalmers, Hosler etc are gone. Just not good enough. Massive summer clear out if we are to move forward as a club.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Sun 9 Feb 20:49
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 9 Feb 20:37
Iv never slated the guy before today but ffs what was going on with him? Left Chalmers open so many times in the first 30mins by not tracking back and looked lost. Needless fouls to give away for the 1st goal and his positioning/marking for the 2nd was brutal.
2 times he could have passed the ball to create better goal scoring chances and has a rugby shot over the bar…
And still played the full game. He was brutal today!
Chris Hamilton was the same and couldn’t pass a ball 10 yards..his positional play is questionable at times as he’s caught well out and seems to stand there…
Now these 2 either think they are 1st choices every game but both need a kick up the erse by Tidser…Both awful today and their attitude needs to change.
agree
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 9 Feb 20:49
Let`s tell them all now that they're not good enough. That should motivate them for the rest of the season. Let's hope Tidser is a better motivator than some on here apparently are.
Post Edited (Sun 09 Feb 20:52)
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sun 9 Feb 20:52
Neither had their best game today but to suggest their attitude needs to change is way off the mark as both give everything for the team, consistently.
McCann is hit or miss at championship level and his weaknesses were exposed against the team 4th in the top tier. I’m not going to judge anyone on today’s game. Massive jump from championship to premier and it showed today with some players more than others.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 9 Feb 20:57
And both were great against Livingston??
Again here we go with wee eck trying to be the health and safety boy everyone dislikes on a site😅
Every player should have run themselves into the ground today…
Post Edited (Sun 09 Feb 20:58)
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Topic Originator: Murchadh
Date: Sun 9 Feb 21:01
If you have a football brain and watched McCann today you would realise his decision making was terrible, he cost us two of the goals with his poor decision making. As for Hamilton, he`s just not up to the standard that we require moving forward.
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Topic Originator: Swifty
Date: Sun 9 Feb 21:06
On reflection I think we started with the wrong team today. At 2 nil down (after losing 2 avoidable goals), we brought on our only natural LB and played much better. Their keeper made a few good saves and had we been awarded a penalty and scored when we were pressing the game, it would have been an interesting end to the game. Our players signed in the January window look like they have something to offer? As we know there are no easy games in the Championship, but here’s hoping we have enough quality to secure 8th place. Onwards and upwards. COYP
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 9 Feb 21:10
Both players are League One level. Hopefully they do enough to keep us up, but once the seasons done it wouldn’t be a shame to see them go. Just not good enough. McCanns been around the first team for years now and still no improvement.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 9 Feb 21:47
Can someone tell me what exactly a `health and safety boy` is? I presume it`s an insult.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 9 Feb 22:05
An insult? ….oh here we go get the site police blah blah.. It was a joke but of course you can’t do this nowadays as ohhh Iv been insulted and ohhh blah blah..get a grip!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 9 Feb 22:09
I`m a bit bemused by that comment too. If you`re trying to make a point it`s best to at least try and make sense
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Sun 9 Feb 22:16
Both were terrible today but let’s not forget that Hamilton played a key role in Arbroath’s title challenge. He is going through a bad patch just now but didn’t turn into a poor player overnight. He was always one of our better players last season.
I would agree that they maybe need dropped but both aren’t terrible players - they’re just going through a rough patch. Hopefully Tidser can see that.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 9 Feb 22:17
Some tail swishing going on tonight.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 9 Feb 22:19
Todd was murder at the airdrie game and hasn’t been seen since, I suspect the same might happen to McCann if there is anyone else who can play in that position, maybe yeboah? Tidser no stupid and knows these guys are very limited.
I tend not to be critical of Hamilton as his main job is to get stuck in and break up the play and then give it to a more creative player but yes if we survive and want to push up the league we will need better.
We can still do loans so I suspect we’ll be in the market for another central midfielder and possibly a left winger.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sun 9 Feb 22:24
Todd is injured
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Sun 9 Feb 22:27
Very unfair to lump them in together IMO. Hammy has been off the boil to be fair but his commitment is unquestionable. Cast your mind back to last year when he was playing any and all positions during the injury crisis. Suffered a broken cheekbone and various concussions. He bleeds black and white. Will he be part of future plans? Probably not, which I am sure he will be devastated about. Buy his versatility and commitment have helped us weather a few storms.
McCann on the other hand is and will continue to be absolute mince. Can`t jump, can`t use his strength, can`t cross a ball (not a winger), can`t finish, can`t beat a man unless that daft wee thing he does where he tries to force it through the defender comes off. Slower than a week in jail. He looks knackered after 15mins in every game but by far the biggest issue I have is that he plays the game staring directly at his own feet. Zero vision. Tbh I am fed up paying week after week to watch him get 90 mins. There was nothing we could do about it when the squad was threadbare but we seem to be moving away from that now. Yeboah is clearly the superior option.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Sun 9 Feb 22:32
Both had poor games today, but it must be hard when a manager tries to force you do do things you don`t want to do, and play in a way that doesn`t use the strengths you do have.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sun 9 Feb 23:39
It`s easy socks LOL ! once players cross that white line they can do as they please , but I do agree that we need to play to our strenghts and play folk in the right positions , and stop this crap playing out from the back because we can see already it`s not working , I understand the theory behind it but it`s not much good if you cannot get out your own half ! we need to get on the front foot and attack teams as we seem to be a betetr team when we do this ! one other aspect of this is if we are in the opposition half with the ball the other team cannot score because they are back defending , certainly hoping we revert back to being an attacking team and get some results under our belt
Cmon Ye Pars
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Sun 9 Feb 23:56
This day and age players need to be versatile and capable of playing in different positions.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Mon 10 Feb 06:20
McCann had a wee purple patch under Lanzarote John when we played to his strengths - more often than not he was up beside Kane, we were quicker at moving the ball, we were a but more physical, etc. He`s not going to fit the system we`ve been trying to play all season but he isn`t the only one. Let`s get back to playing to the strengths of the players we have, get safe then start making changes if need be.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Mon 10 Feb 07:15
Hamilton must be on the cusp of being suspended with his disciplinary record.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Mon 10 Feb 07:44
Chalmers isn’t a left back and you heard a collective sigh when the team was announced. But he wasn’t helped at all by McCann who constantly failed to track back and left Chalmers isolated with 2 on 1.
Hammy is decent at breaking up play however lacks ability when he is on the ball and ends up just giving the ball back to the opposition half the time.
No lack of effort yesterday but again showed the level of several of our players.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 10 Feb 08:40
You have to be joking? Chalmers is an horrendous left back and should be nowhere near there. Had a stinker against Stenny and Airdrie in the position but yeah weee away to Aberdeen let’s give him another go. Had disaster written all over it and as soon as Aberdeen seen that line up they knew exactly where to attack time and time again.
As for Hammy I hear a lot of fans say he loves the club and tries every game, I love the club and would try every game and I bet you I have a better end product than him. He can’t pass 5 yards and is a walking yellow card every week.
Post Edited (Mon 10 Feb 08:42)
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Topic Originator: StackPar
Date: Mon 10 Feb 08:48
Hamilton’s out of form which he can refind.
McCann has all the attributes but as much as it pains me, just don’t see him cutting it at Champ level
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Mon 10 Feb 09:53
Very annoying that Lewis McCann had a bad day at the office yesterday. Because if had had a good day at the office, Pars might have taken the Dons to the wire.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 10 Feb 09:55
I`m a bit fed up watching the players we have trying to get by in the Championship. They`re not terrible football players but it`s time the likes of Chalmers/McCann etc moved on. They`ve all done us a turn at times but they`ve been around for 3, 4 & 5 years now and are a big part of why we`re farting around at the bottom of the league.
We need better.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Mon 10 Feb 10:13)
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 10 Feb 10:18
Spot on da_no_1 these players were with us last time me got relegated from the Championship and look where we are now. Floating around relegation spot again.
The whole squad needs a freshen up.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 10 Feb 10:31
Haven`t we just had a `freshen up`? We signed 7 players during the transfer window and 6 are available for the rest of the season.
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Topic Originator: 7 Eleven
Date: Mon 10 Feb 10:31
I liken lower league players to the characters out of the Wizard of Oz. They are all lacking something. Unfortunately there are a few players in this squad what are lacking more than just one thing. That is clearly evident in one of the players highlighted in this thread.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 10 Feb 11:25
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 10 Feb 10:31
Haven`t we just had a `freshen up`? We signed 7 players during the transfer window and 6 are available for the rest of the season.
Oh come on min.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: StevenPar77
Date: Mon 10 Feb 11:29
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 10 Feb 10:31
Haven`t we just had a `freshen up`? We signed 7 players during the transfer window and 6 are available for the rest of the season.
I must admit I like Ephraim Yeboah. He seems to have something about him. With some improvement on decision making etc he could be really useful although I thought the same about Mebude.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 10 Feb 11:56
Absolutely agree da no1.
If a player cannot consistently cut it at the level required then at some point it’s time to accept they will never be able to cut it. Shouldn’t take 5-6 years to suss that out though as that’s part of our problem we face now.
We just can’t continue on carrying passengers week after week.
Post Edited (Mon 10 Feb 12:26)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 10 Feb 12:01
In addition to Yeboah, everyone seems to think Chilokoa-Mullen is an upgrade on what we have and Archie Stevens is the type of wide player we have been lacking. The others, including Connor Young, still have time to make an impression.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 10 Feb 12:20
We really need hampson and Taylor-Clarke to be decent and hit the ground running.
Can’t play a slower passing game with no midfield.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 10 Feb 12:51
Not all "passing games" are slower.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Mon 10 Feb 12:52)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 10 Feb 13:00
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 10 Feb 11:25
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 10 Feb 10:31
Haven`t we just had a `freshen up`? We signed 7 players during the transfer window and 6 are available for the rest of the season.
Oh come on min.
What on earth does that mean?
He made a perfectly correct statement.
I recon the new regime are confident we will survive, and they are developing a squad that can and will play the way Tidser wants.
More will be added in the summer who fit the style.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 10 Feb 13:08
Whats happened to Josh Cooper, Mebude, Clay & Todd ( injured)?
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Topic Originator: dpard
Date: Mon 10 Feb 13:13
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Mon 10 Feb 13:08
Whats happened to Josh Cooper, Mebude, Clay & Todd ( injured)?
Copper had a thigh strain but is back training,
Todd has a hamstring injury, out for a couple weeks.
The other 2 aren`t fancied. I personally wouldn`t be surprised if both left/ went on loan.
The flame still burns
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 10 Feb 16:40
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Mon 10 Feb 13:08
Whats happened to Josh Cooper, Mebude, Clay & Todd ( injured)?
None of them are good enough either…..
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 10 Feb 17:36
I’d be amazed if Cooper, Mebude or Clay were offered deals in the summer. All are better finding new clubs nowhere near good enough.
Todd has been terrible since he got injured at the start of last season, so far off it.
Post Edited (Mon 10 Feb 17:37)
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Topic Originator: grelin
Date: Mon 10 Feb 17:57
I think McCann is a lost cause with us, he is too embedded in the club having come thought the youth ranks and thinks he is untouchable. He showed early promise but in my opinion he has not kicked on and only has a good game once in a blue moon. I think he is still young enough to go elsewhere and improve so he should be encouraged to move on. To be fair to him, even when he is mince he puts in a shift, but he is like a headless chicken at times and needlessly dives into challenges as outlined earlier in this post.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 10 Feb 18:23
Whatever anyone thinks of Lewis McCann as a player, it`s a bit much to say `he thinks he is untouchable`. He made his debut in July 2018 which means he has played for 6 permanent managers in less than 7 years - Johnston, Crawford, Grant, Hughes, McPake and now Tidser. They`ve all rated him sufficiently to have him as a regular in their squads, if not the starting XI. I presume that`s based on what they saw on the training pitch and in competitive matches and nothing else.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Mon 10 Feb 18:35
I`ve got a strange feeling of déjà vu here wee eck, but I`d argue that most of the managers you have mentioned were forced to play McCann simply due to a lack of decent alternatives. However, I`m hoping that the recent additions will provide much better competition for a place in the starting eleven.
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Topic Originator: sonofpetrie
Date: Mon 10 Feb 18:49
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Mon 10 Feb 17:36
I’d be amazed if Cooper, Mebude or Clay were offered deals in the summer. All are better finding new clubs nowhere near good enough.
Todd has been terrible since he got injured at the start of last season, so far off it.
Cooper and Dapo written off after a handful of minutes. Maybe if they are given 6 whole seasons to "come good" like McCann then the situation would be comparable.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 10 Feb 18:51
Some of them must have offered him a new contract. Do you think he signed a 7-year contract in 2018?!!! No manager is `forced` to play any player if he doesn`t think he`ll do a job for the team.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Mon 10 Feb 18:57
It`s often frustrating when a player moves on, is managed differently or played in a way that suits them better....and they do well.
When an ex player scores a goal for their new team, is awarded MOTM, or appears in the team of the week, fans are understandably prone to hand wringing like we`ve missed out or failed.
McCann is the one I have the strongest feeling this will happen with. More than L1 hero Matty Todd, Paul Allan, or any of those listed here who have been deemed `not good enough`. I honestly believe he`d do really well in a different team because of the way successive managers have used him.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:11
I’m sure our players read the forums and, if not, I’m sure a friend or a family member will and relay what has been said?
I can’t imagine what it must be like to read threads about yourself, generally slating you?
I’m sure some will say it goes with the territory, but I think it would demotivate me?
Chris is also a dyed in the wool Pars fan. I wonder how he feels?
I also heard that members of Joe Chalmers’ family were very close to reacting to some foul mouthed abuse of him during Sunday’s game.
By all means, let’s critique players, if that’s how you feel, but can we do it respectfully ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Mon 10 Feb 19:13)
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:14
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 10 Feb 18:51
Some of them must have offered him a new contract. Do you think he signed a 7-year contract in 2018?!!! No manager is `forced` to play any player if he doesn`t think he`ll do a job for the team.
Probably why most of them lost their job. Managers live and die by their signings and renewing McCann Chalmers and Mehmet contracts coupled with rotten football cost mcpake his.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:17
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 10 Feb 19:11
I’m sure our players read the forums and, if not, I’m sure a friend or a family member will and relay what has been said?
I can’t imagine what it must be like to read threads about yourself, generally slating you?
I’m sure some will say it goes with the territory, but I think it would demotivate me?
Chris is also a dyed in the wool Pars fan. I wonder how he feels?
I also heard that members of Joe Chalmers’ family were very close to reacting to some foul mouthed abuse of him during Sunday’s game.
By all means, let’s critique players, if that’s how you feel, but can we do it respectfully ?
Yeah I was standing close to Joe`s family when one of our arsehole supporters a few rows behind me shouted "Just shoot ya f@ggot"
Makes you feel fair proud so it does.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:20
I had it second hand so I’m pleased you were able to confirm, da no 1.
Like you say, it makes you proud.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:23
I don`t agree Jeffery.
Managers have stuck with him through the years hoping against hope that the young guy with potential will finally burst through. The young guy with all the physical attributes normally lacking in our academy players, will prove that he has what it takes to be 1st name on the teamsheet.
But....he`s no got it mate. Someone mentioned game intelligence on Saturday. I`m sorry but he doesn`t have any kind of football intelligence. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:25
Quote:
da_no_1, Mon 10 Feb 19:17
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 10 Feb 19:11
I’m sure our players read the forums and, if not, I’m sure a friend or a family member will and relay what has been said?
I can’t imagine what it must be like to read threads about yourself, generally slating you?
I’m sure some will say it goes with the territory, but I think it would demotivate me?
Chris is also a dyed in the wool Pars fan. I wonder how he feels?
I also heard that members of Joe Chalmers’ family were very close to reacting to some foul mouthed abuse of him during Sunday’s game.
By all means, let’s critique players, if that’s how you feel, but can we do it respectfully ?
Yeah I was standing close to Joe`s family when one of our arsehole supporters a few rows behind me shouted "Just shoot ya f@ggot"
Makes you feel fair proud so it does.
I know it`s not always an easy thing to do, but that sort of thing needs called out to the stewards and the person ejected/banned. Absolutely shameful thing to be shouting. Same with people calling players paedos and shirt-lifters. It`s caveman nonsense.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:26
I get the frustration with McCann. He’s lacking awareness around him when he does get the ball but that’s something he can be coached on so definite room for improvement there. He does have attributes though. He’ll run himself into the ground and always makes himself available.
Hamilton had a stinker on Sunday like Joe Chalmers but I’m generally a fan of him as he gives his all. I’d lay off criticism of him as he is an asset to our squad.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:28
When you see how some of the criticism of our players/management/directors is expressed on here it`s no surprise to hear that sort of stuff at matches unfortunately.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Mon 10 Feb 19:47
For what it’s worth I thought chalmers had a pretty decent game considering he was playing left back even though he’s no very good at it he kept jensen at bay in the first half and made life difficult for keskenin as well and as for the abuse he gets most of the time it’s from boys who would be blowing out their erse after the first 10 minutes
As for the players mentioned in the OP McCann is a lost cause and needs punted at the end of the season as for wee eck scoffing at the idea of some who say McCann thinks he’s untouchable that’s exactly what it is mate he knows himself he’s no good enough but he still gets a game due to there being no one else to drop him for who knows mibby the gaffer will drop him for Connor young at the weekend but I highly doubt it
As for Hamilton I’m at a lose as to what’s up with him or where it’s even went wrong there’s no question that he would jump in front of a bus if it stopped us losing a goal because he bleeds black and white he could just be trying to hard in order to make up for other players around him’s short comings with the system we are trying to play hopefully he gets back to his best soon
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Mon 10 Feb 20:03
Jake89 trust me I would have but couldn`t tell who it was.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Glenrothes Par
Date: Mon 10 Feb 20:11
totally agree, and would add Wighton, OHalloran, Weatherspoon.
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Topic Originator: parsfan97
Date: Mon 10 Feb 20:16
Players shouldn’t just be here cause they give their all. Anyone from the stands would also do that. Should be playing for us based on ability. Like da no 1 said, I’m sick of seeing the same players having us languishing near the bottom end of the championship. Big change needed
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Topic Originator: TommyR
Date: Mon 10 Feb 20:32
The place 100% needs freshening up.
Some of these lads would probably improve elsewhere, it`s just been too long.
Chalmers is stealing a wage from us at this point and the fans are more than fair in their criticism. It`s football and yes comments will be unsavoury unfortunately.
I want to see our new signings feature heavily over this old riff raff. It can`t be any worse and tidser really needs to lay his loyalties aside and stop being pals with the old guys who`ve been benched by previous managers after months of us screaming for it.
If we wanted to survive the season than McLaughlin had us setup exactly to the strengths of this squad. We can play tidser play next season when they`re gone.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Mon 10 Feb 20:42
Away and get £&@€$# if you think calling someone a f@ggot is just unsavoury then your part of the problem id see the point if chalmers deliberately went out to have a good game but I dare say if he was scoring goals for fun he’d still be getting abuse
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Topic Originator: Big G Ball
Date: Mon 10 Feb 20:49
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but honestly what do we expect as throughout the season our squad have proved to be rank rotten. We have players who are 1st division calibre…..on occasion they can muster a level of improvement in order to beat a championship team. Irrelevant of how poor Aberdeen have been recently they are well outside of anything we can hope to see pull on a shirt. McCann against raith was outstanding but that was his one out of five good games. We have players who cannot compete consistently so starting to look forward to away trips to Inverness, east Fife, kelty and Dumfries next year
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Mon 10 Feb 21:01
Chalmers is almost never injured and well respected by his team mates due to his professionalism.
Anyone using the `wage thief` patter to describe him is out of order - whether you rate his ability or not.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 10 Feb 21:27
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Back_oh_the_net, Mon 10 Feb 20:42
Away and get £&@€$# if you think calling someone a f@ggot is just unsavoury then your part of the problem id see the point if chalmers deliberately went out to have a good game but I dare say if he was scoring goals for fun he’d still be getting abuse
It`s likely someone with a limited vocabulary who isn`t very good articulating their emotions. I`m sure we`ve all let out a "FFS" at the football, which is natural. Just a shame some people have to follow up with a bit of casual homophobia.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 10 Feb 21:29
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Mon 10 Feb 21:01
Chalmers is almost never injured and well respected by his team mates due to his professionalism.
Anyone using the `wage thief` patter to describe him is out of order - whether you rate his ability or not.
To be fair Chalmers has said hes not a left back ,but would play anywhere the manager asks him to do so ,Its the manager who puy him in at left back ,you could clearly see he was struggling early on and Aberdeen were throwing everything down their right ,how cant our manager not see and act on this
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Mon 10 Feb 22:16
Quote:
Rigger Al, Mon 10 Feb 21:29
Quote:
DA-go Par Adonis, Mon 10 Feb 21:01
Chalmers is almost never injured and well respected by his team mates due to his professionalism.
Anyone using the `wage thief` patter to describe him is out of order - whether you rate his ability or not.
To be fair Chalmers has said hes not a left back ,but would play anywhere the manager asks him to do so ,Its the manager who puy him in at left back ,you could clearly see he was struggling early on and Aberdeen were throwing everything down their right ,how cant our manager not see and act on this
Was he though ? I don’t think he was I thought he handled the threat Jensen and keskenin posed down the right quite well
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Mon 10 Feb 22:18
I’m pretty sure Aberdeen paid £1.5m for those pair?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Mon 10 Feb 23:31
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 10 Feb 22:18
I’m pretty sure Aberdeen paid £1.5m for those pair?
Each or for them combined? either way they seen Aberdeen coming at that price 😂
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 11 Feb 01:27
They’ve spent a few quid. These guys all started.
Jensen €650k
Keskinen €1m
Tobers €950k
Nilson €355k
Gueye €580k
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 11 Feb 03:03
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 11 Feb 01:27
They’ve spent a few quid. These guys all started.
Jensen €650k
Keskinen €1m
Tobers €950k
Nilson €355k
Gueye €580k
Yet some folk on here think they were there for thee taking.
We did well to hold out until the last seconds of the first half.
We had chances, too, but how much did their defence cost?
They have still not been together for more than two weeks.
The usual first team is practically on the bench now.
Let`s see how we progress over the next few weeks.
I`ll take a tenner of anybody money that thinks we will be either 9th or 10th.
I recon we can do 5th.
4th is a bit of a stretch.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Tue 11 Feb 03:45
5th 😂😂
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Topic Originator: MikeyDee
Date: Tue 11 Feb 04:13
Joe chalmers is up there with Chris smith and Michael hrvnak as the worst Dunfermline players of all time. Honourable mention to Ross millen and Ross Forbes
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 11 Feb 04:24
Quote:
Andrew283, Tue 11 Feb 03:45
5th 😂😂
We are 7pts behind QP in 5th place.
We both have 15 games left ( 45 pts)
The last 5 games, we have taken 7 pts, 3 of those matches against the top 4 sides.
QP have gained 4 pts, against similar.
We have just significantly strengthened the squad (opinion).
I don`t know why you are laughing. Perfectly doable.
What is the point being a fan if you don`t think so?
Post Edited (Tue 11 Feb 04:26)
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 11 Feb 04:56
Quote:
MikeyDee, Tue 11 Feb 04:13
Joe chalmers is up there with Chris smith and Michael hrvnak as the worst Dunfermline players of all time. Honourable mention to Ross millen and Ross Forbes
That fact that you have totally failed to mention Stephen Simmons means you are talking complete Colin nish
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Tue 11 Feb 04:59
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 11 Feb 04:24
Quote:
Andrew283, Tue 11 Feb 03:45
5th 😂😂
We are 7pts behind QP in 5th place.
We both have 15 games left ( 45 pts)
The last 5 games, we have taken 7 pts, 3 of those matches against the top 4 sides.
QP have gained 4 pts, against similar.
We have just significantly strengthened the squad (opinion).
I don`t know why you are laughing. Perfectly doable.
What is the point being a fan if you don`t think so?
He’s probably laughing because he knows while we continue to try and fail to play it out from the back we will go nowhere fast but 10/10 for optimism mate
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 11 Feb 05:52
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 11 Feb 04:24
Quote:
Andrew283, Tue 11 Feb 03:45
5th 😂😂
We are 7pts behind QP in 5th place.
We both have 15 games left ( 45 pts)
The last 5 games, we have taken 7 pts, 3 of those matches against the top 4 sides.
QP have gained 4 pts, against similar.
We have just significantly strengthened the squad (opinion).
I don`t know why you are laughing. Perfectly doable.
What is the point being a fan if you don`t think so?
We will do well to hold on to 8th
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Tue 11 Feb 06:03
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Tue 11 Feb 04:56
Quote:
MikeyDee, Tue 11 Feb 04:13
Joe chalmers is up there with Chris smith and Michael hrvnak as the worst Dunfermline players of all time. Honourable mention to Ross millen and Ross Forbes
That fact that you have totally failed to mention Stephen Simmons means you are talking complete Colin nish
Does anyone remember Raymond sharp in the 1990 skol cup final... an absolute nightmare left back performance that day against hibs
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 11 Feb 06:41
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Tue 11 Feb 06:03
Quote:
Back_oh_the_net, Tue 11 Feb 04:56
Quote:
MikeyDee, Tue 11 Feb 04:13
Joe chalmers is up there with Chris smith and Michael hrvnak as the worst Dunfermline players of all time. Honourable mention to Ross millen and Ross Forbes
That fact that you have totally failed to mention Stephen Simmons means you are talking complete Colin nish
Does anyone remember Raymond sharp in the 1990 skol cup final... an absolute nightmare left back performance that day against hibs
Noel whelan now he has to be in the conversation surely?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 11 Feb 06:57
Quote:
MikeyDee, Tue 11 Feb 04:13
Joe chalmers is up there with Chris smith and Michael hrvnak as the worst Dunfermline players of all time. Honourable mention to Ross millen and Ross Forbes
Hurry up and finish your Coco Pops "Mikey" the school bus will be here soon....
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Tue 11 Feb 07:42
Thought Chalmers was OK on Sunday.
Positionally fine and defended well enough, the frustrating thing is doing the `hard bit` then giving the ball right back to them under no pressure with a slack pass which happened once or twice.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 11 Feb 07:53
That`s the frustration TAFKA. For a player praised for his passing ability, the fact that let him down was pretty bad. Add to the fact that he did it 3 or 4 times in the corner next to the Lars fans, that won`t have helped him.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Tue 11 Feb 09:50
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Mon 10 Feb 19:11
I’m sure our players read the forums and, if not, I’m sure a friend or a family member will and relay what has been said?
I can’t imagine what it must be like to read threads about yourself, generally slating you?
I’m sure some will say it goes with the territory, but I think it would demotivate me?
Chris is also a dyed in the wool Pars fan. I wonder how he feels?
I also heard that members of Joe Chalmers’ family were very close to reacting to some foul mouthed abuse of him during Sunday’s game.
By all means, let’s critique players, if that’s how you feel, but can we do it respectfully ?
Totally agree. I have been told first-hand, by the fiancee of one of our players, how hurtful and unfair some of the comments are on social media, forums etc.
Yes, players have to be professional and try to do their best whenever they pull on the jersey, but they know whether or not they have played well, and comments like wage-thief (and much worse) are unlikely to motivate them - so why make them just to see your name on the Internet?
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 11 Feb 10:17
Parrot we only have 13 games left to play.
Queen’s Park will struggle as they have just lost their best player so I don’t expect them to maintain that position but you seem to forget raith and morton who we would also need to leapfrog. These teams all have to play each other so they are going to pick up points and will no doubt pull some surprise results out of the bag.
We’ll know a lot more in the 3 games after livi. If we don’t win at least 2 of them we’ll be in trouble.
We’ve scored 1 deflected goal in open play in the last 4 games. Things may improve but this is relying on inconsistent untried youngsters, I’ll still bit your hand off for 8th right now.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 11 Feb 10:34
Airdrie apart, our performances and result have improved since McPake left. We also seem to have added to the overall quality of the squad. There`s a few teams directly above us who are treading water, hoping we don`t go on any sort of run. Even a couple of wins would put the frighteners on them.
Plenty to be positive about if you take a step back and look.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Tue 11 Feb 10:54
Just get through this season and survive, massive clear out in the summer. For what it’s worth I would not include Hamilton in that clear out.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 11 Feb 11:08
`These teams all have to play each other so they are going to pick up points and will no doubt pull some surprise results out of the bag.`
In that situation I always think that some teams are going to drop points. And why shouldn`t we pull some surprise results out of the bag? It all depends on your mindset I suppose.
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Topic Originator: fergie
Date: Tue 11 Feb 11:30
Stupid debate, slagging arguably one of our best players, namely Lewis McCann from the previous 3 games
I have every expectation that McCann will end up in the premiership as he has all the attributes to make that step. As to our other soldier, Chris Hamilton, if half the team put as much heart and soul into the game as Chris, we wouldn`t be in the **** we are currently in. He does need to learn to shut his mouth, though.
I was there too on Sunday and as gutted about the result as everyone else, but to blame it on two players is just ridiculous.
Stop hating and start supporting or we are forever doomed to be has been.
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Tue 11 Feb 11:36
McCann needs to be okayed to his strengths as one of a front two. He’s not a winger and he’s not a loan striker but virtually all his time with us that’s been how he’s been played. Look how well he performed in the three gams John McGlaughlin was in charge.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 11 Feb 12:20
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 11 Feb 10:17
Parrot we only have 13 games left to play.
Queen’s Park will struggle as they have just lost their best player so I don’t expect them to maintain that position but you seem to forget raith and morton who we would also need to leapfrog. These teams all have to play each other so they are going to pick up points and will no doubt pull some surprise results out of the bag.
We’ll know a lot more in the 3 games after livi. If we don’t win at least 2 of them we’ll be in trouble.
We’ve scored 1 deflected goal in open play in the last 4 games. Things may improve but this is relying on inconsistent untried youngsters, I’ll still bit your hand off for 8th right now.
My bad with games left
No, I haven`t forgotten Raith and Morton.
I think we can catch them.
I think Morton is the better of the two.
If they win their game in hand I might have to settle for 6th, but 5th is a target.
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Topic Originator: fergie
Date: Tue 11 Feb 13:10
Quote:
dd23, Tue 11 Feb 11:36
McCann needs to be okayed to his strengths as one of a front two. He’s not a winger and he’s not a loan striker but virtually all his time with us that’s been how he’s been played. Look how well he performed in the three gams John McGlaughlin was in charge.
Exactly
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 11 Feb 13:25
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Mon 10 Feb 17:36
I’d be amazed if Cooper, Mebude or Clay were offered deals in the summer. All are better finding new clubs nowhere near good enough.
Todd has been terrible since he got injured at the start of last season, so far off it.
So Cooper written off already, how many minutes played?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Tue 11 Feb 16:03
Also worth pointing out we have failed to win back to back league games all season. If we are to escape the dreaded relegation play off we need to tighten up at set plays, take more of our chances from open play as 1 goal in 4 isn`t exactly prolific and manage to get on a run of wins.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 11 Feb 17:04
We haven’t been able to score in 3 league games in a row either.
lol all the attributes to end up in the premier? Fergie are you okay? What premier league level attributes have you seen that no one else on this forum has seen as we’re all debating whether he can actually cut it in the championship and generally the feeling is he can’t unless it is in a club which is fighting to stay in the league.
I do like this argument that players can be so much better if they are just played a certain way, it’s like if we move McCann into new position he’ll suddenly develop game intelligence, anticipation, control, instinct and be able to look up when he has the ball at his feet if only he was playing 20 yards further forward and central alongside another striker.
There is just too much missing from his game.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Tue 11 Feb 17:19
Scored a cracking goal at Firhill and caused all sorts of problems in the three games under Lanzarote John. Not saying he`ll turn into a superstar just with that one change but given the state of the squad I think we need to use each player sensibly. Same for Benedictus - he`ll be fine if we want him to defend but if he`s starting the attacks from deep there is no point. Hamilton, play him as a screen who will disrupt things and keep it simple rather than trying to turn him into a deep lying playmaker. Comrie is a steady up and down full back, let`s not pretend he`s an inverted Pep style jack of all trades who can play in midfield. Young is a number nine so play him there instead of as a ten.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 11 Feb 18:56
I would absolutely love it if McCann got himself a move and tore it up. Just to see you squirm Berkey boy
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Tue 11 Feb 20:03
Can`t fault either of these players for commitment or effort. They are both very competitive players. Both do have their limits I admit, and I do have doubts that they could take us to a higher level, but they have earned the right to be given a chance.
Probably one of the worst things about being a Pars fan, the only thing that makes me ashamed of being a Pars fan, is the way we are all so quick to jump on the back of a scapegoat. You`ve all moved on from Chalmers and now you have Hamilton and McCann in your sights. It`s the kind of thing you used to see in school playgrounds. The chief bully would identify his target and then all the wee cowardly bullies would pile on.
That`s what you can see on this thread. A bunch of faceless wee immature bully boys, who are likely small on stature and tiny of tadger
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Topic Originator: dd23
Date: Tue 11 Feb 20:25
Agreed ^^^
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Topic Originator: TommyR
Date: Tue 11 Feb 20:45
The Chalmers appreciation society is alive and well here.
Nobody is condoning calling him rude obscene gestures but he`s far and away our worst player and has been for some time. The 3 year contract given was a very poor decision from McPake off the back of the seaside league.
I`m disappointed Tidser has decided against previous sentient and decisions and to give him a fresh start.
He gives away passes left right and centre. Can only pass sideways or backwards. Has absolutely no tackling ability. Frequently misjudges free balls, hesitates and allows our opposition to take it. The only plus I can give him is he sometimes provided a decent long ball or precision corner.
I wish the man no harm or abuse but the general feeling outside this forum is that he`s done here. Nobody wants to see players who clearly can`t cut it at this level keep being risen from the dead.
I`ll stand by any criticism of his play outside of slurs with the exception of wage thief. He`s being paid well and offers nothing whether hes trying or not.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 11 Feb 20:52
How generous of you only to call him a wage thief. You can`t question the guy`s commitment so that description is totally out of order.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 11 Feb 20:54
Trust me McCann was no scapegoat against Aberdeen. Chopped a player down for a foul that was not needed leading to a crucial goal just before half time and the second goal he was watching air…plus the first 20mins he just left Chalmers to deal with the fast Aberdeen winger all on his own while he stood and watched…
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 11 Feb 22:09
Quote:
TommyR, Tue 11 Feb 20:45
The Chalmers appreciation society is alive and well here.
Nobody is condoning calling him rude obscene gestures but he`s far and away our worst player and has been for some time. The 3 year contract given was a very poor decision from McPake off the back of the seaside league.
I`m disappointed Tidser has decided against previous sentient and decisions and to give him a fresh start.
He gives away passes left right and centre. Can only pass sideways or backwards. Has absolutely no tackling ability. Frequently misjudges free balls, hesitates and allows our opposition to take it. The only plus I can give him is he sometimes provided a decent long ball or precision corner.
I wish the man no harm or abuse but the general feeling outside this forum is that he`s done here. Nobody wants to see players who clearly can`t cut it at this level keep being risen from the dead.
I`ll stand by any criticism of his play outside of slurs with the exception of wage thief. He`s being paid well and offers nothing whether hes trying or not.
No. That is just your opinion, and the opinion of a few on here who, like you, are entitled to give their opinion on an open forum.
Entitled, but seriously under qualified.
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Topic Originator: 87Par
Date: Wed 12 Feb 01:15
I generally refrain from guffy comments of our players. But.. McCann has got Dom Thomas Vibes all over him. I`d rather have him in my team than against.
Otoo isn`t our best player.
This theory that he is rips ma knitting.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 12 Feb 07:45
My only concern is general in that we`re largely trying to do the same thing with most of the players thar haven`t been able to do it, I thought a new manager would mix it up a bit, I don`t see any need fo single out individual players.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 12 Feb 08:10
"I`ll stand by any criticism of his play outside of slurs with the exception of wage thief. He`s being paid well and offers nothing whether hes trying or not."
Doubling down on it is just stupid.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 12 Feb 08:44
87 par Dom Thomas has the ability to win you games and did so quite frequently in his spell with us. Not just scoring and assisting but generally he was good by carrying the ball forward and seeing a pass to create space for others. An excellent proven championship player.
It’s laughable to compare McCann to him, McCann gets the ball and it’s head down amatuer stuff with no end product, he’s chucking balls towards the box without even looking up.
Chalmers is murder, alarm bells ringing when the ayr fans were delighted they offloaded him. He’s been dropped mostly this season so not so much of an issue. Playing him at left back is hanging him out to dry a bit so won’t have a go for being crap at left back.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 12 Feb 09:06
This is painful.
Basing your opinions on what you read on fitba forums.
Chalmers is not "murder". If we want to challenge we need to improve our squad with better players, that`s obvious. But to label a player with over 200 appearances as "murder" is absolutely laughable.
Your starting to look like a caricature of yourself.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Wed 12 Feb 11:21
Quote:
87Par, Wed 12 Feb 01:15
I generally refrain from guffy comments of our players. But.. McCann has got Dom Thomas Vibes all over him. I`d rather have him in my team than against.
Otoo isn`t our best player.
This theory that he is rips ma knitting.
For me Otoo is our best player by a considerable distance. Probably the only player in the squad that will go on and play at a higher level.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 12 Feb 12:11
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 11 Feb 18:56
I would absolutely love it if McCann got himself a move and tore it up. Just to see you squirm Berkey boy
Berkey could state the sun is hot and you`d furiously disagree... 🙄🙄
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 12 Feb 12:14
Agree with Berkey on the McCann / Thomas comparison, the latter was much more effective.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 12 Feb 12:14
Quote:
87Par, Wed 12 Feb 01:15
I generally refrain from guffy comments of our players. But.. McCann has got Dom Thomas Vibes all over him. I`d rather have him in my team than against.
Otoo isn`t our best player.
This theory that he is rips ma knitting.
😂😂😂
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Wed 12 Feb 12:39
Otoo will be off to bigger and better things in the summer for a six figure fee. Him and Kane are the best players in the team by some distance.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 12 Feb 12:42
Quote:
Andrew283, Wed 12 Feb 12:11
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 11 Feb 18:56
I would absolutely love it if McCann got himself a move and tore it up. Just to see you squirm Berkey boy
Berkey could state the sun is hot and you`d furiously disagree... 🙄🙄
Berkey fan club convenor located
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 12 Feb 12:43
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da_no_1, Wed 12 Feb 12:42
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Andrew283, Wed 12 Feb 12:11
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da_no_1, Tue 11 Feb 18:56
I would absolutely love it if McCann got himself a move and tore it up. Just to see you squirm Berkey boy
Berkey could state the sun is hot and you`d furiously disagree... 🙄🙄
Berkey fan club convenor located
No, you`re just a bit of an er5e honestly.
Post Edited (Wed 12 Feb 12:45)
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 12 Feb 12:53
Quote:
Andrew283, Wed 12 Feb 12:43
Quote:
da_no_1, Wed 12 Feb 12:42
Quote:
Andrew283, Wed 12 Feb 12:11
Quote:
da_no_1, Tue 11 Feb 18:56
I would absolutely love it if McCann got himself a move and tore it up. Just to see you squirm Berkey boy
Berkey could state the sun is hot and you`d furiously disagree... 🙄🙄
Berkey fan club convenor located
No, you`re just a bit of an er5e honestly.
Disagreeing with someone doesn`t make them an erse. He can make some valid points but no-one is right all the time. Am i not allowed to offer an alternative to his constant negativity and relentless slaughtering of the same 2 players?
Let me know what I AM allowed to say when you get a minute.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
Post Edited (Wed 12 Feb 12:53)
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Topic Originator: Aaron Labonte
Date: Wed 12 Feb 13:03
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Andrew283, Wed 12 Feb 12:11
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da_no_1, Tue 11 Feb 18:56
I would absolutely love it if McCann got himself a move and tore it up. Just to see you squirm Berkey boy
Berkey could state the sun is hot and you`d furiously disagree... 🙄🙄
Bit rich coming from someone who only posts to disagree with someone or something whilst doing so in a raging manner.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 12 Feb 13:09
Some folk seem to think Berkey is the second Messiah just for stating the bleeding obvious - we need better players. It`s hardly a startling revelation for a team in the lower half of the second tier of Scottish football. What some of us find distasteful is the constant singling out of certain players to illustrate the point.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Wed 12 Feb 13:19
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fergie, Tue 11 Feb 11:30[/]
I have every expectation that McCann will end up in the premiership[\quote]
I stopped reading at this part mate you are either smacked out your t!ts on drugs or your related to him either way there’s not a hope in hells chance he will play in the premiership he’s simply not good enough
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 12 Feb 13:34
Yet again, someone gives their opinion and is now a drug user.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Wed 12 Feb 15:38
I have always struggled with mcann and chalmers, I am sure they are nice guys, but I don`t want that, I want effective players. Mcann generally has poor games and poor awareness of what the optiobs are around him, but then he has a good game and scores, but need to be far more effective say 3 out of 4 matches, not one in 6. Chalmers is a nice pretty player, who may do well in a team that is successful with lots of good players around him. But we are not and have not been for years, therfore he comes over as not effective.
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Wed 12 Feb 15:39
If MI5 are looking to hire a new assassin they need look no further than TommyR. That was some hatchet job he did on Joe Chalmers. Just for the record some of us
(must be the Chalmers appreciation society) take a more balanced view of his time at the club. He wouldn`t usually get in my first eleven but he is a decent squad man and helps out with the younger players. Anyone calling him a wage thief doesn`t know too much about what goes on behind the scenes at the club.
I wish that some of the folk on here would pay a bit more attention at matches rather than just waiting on bits of play that reinforce the poor opinion they have of some players, it`s nearly always the same ones who get all the stick.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 12 Feb 15:41
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red-star-par, Tue 11 Feb 20:03
Can`t fault either of these players for commitment or effort. They are both very competitive players. Both do have their limits I admit, and I do have doubts that they could take us to a higher level, but they have earned the right to be given a chance.
Probably one of the worst things about being a Pars fan, the only thing that makes me ashamed of being a Pars fan, is the way we are all so quick to jump on the back of a scapegoat. You`ve all moved on from Chalmers and now you have Hamilton and McCann in your sights. It`s the kind of thing you used to see in school playgrounds. The chief bully would identify his target and then all the wee cowardly bullies would pile on.
That`s what you can see on this thread. A bunch of faceless wee immature bully boys, who are likely small on stature and tiny of tadger
Absolutely right about the commitment but when it comes to quality that`s where these guys struggle. I don`t think you can question their quality or commitment but I think you can question their quality.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 13 Feb 09:21
Now that the dust has settled - they still aren’t good enough to have us competing for the title/play offs. It would be great to see them develop but McCanns been in the first team for 6/7 years now and just hasn’t improved. You could argue the same for Matty Todd.
People need to stop this “Chalmers only passes sideways or backwards” p!sh too, because its simply not true. His first look is always forward, where he’s then forced back because theres rarely options ahead of him. When there is, he plays them.
And who said Chris Smith was one of our worst players ever? 🤔 maybe not our best keeper, but he did win this league as our number one the last time we went up playing every league game…….put some respect on him ffs!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 13 Feb 11:08
Although we all have opinions, I doubt any us have the level of knowledge the management team have. They seem the guys in training, they seem them on the pitch, they have all the analytics and ability to watch the game back.
One thing I was wondering was if we have additional cameras around the stadium? This might help pick up on errors that could be highlighted to players.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Thu 13 Feb 11:26
Isn’t it time to close this thread?
(Some) people post but I have to wonder if they read previous ones first.
It’s like everyone’s shouting at once and nobody’s listening.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 13 Feb 11:34
You could probably change the word "thread" to "forum".
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