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 Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 12:41

After the big support of last week away end tickets sold so far is pretty poor.

Is going to Livi that bad, hopefully we can pull off a surprise.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 12:44

A lot of people have probably factored in the way we’re playing and the prices for today and sacked it off.

I will be there, 3rd time at Livingston away this season and yet to see a goal for us there and possibly even an attempt on target.

Here’s hoping today is different.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 13:22

24 quid and a pretty rubbish venue. Not surprising that people are voting with their feet.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 13:32

Absolute dump of a ground. Was there in August. First day of the new season. Broken seats. Vandalism. Toilets looked like they`d been wrecked. £24. No thanks

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:09

Attacking line up
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Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:10



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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:15

Looks like a 433

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:17

Quote:

da_no_1, Sat 15 Feb 13:32

Absolute dump of a ground. Was there in August. First day of the new season. Broken seats. Vandalism. Toilets looked like they`d been wrecked. £24. No thanks


Must say I will never go back to pittodrie again and absolute **** hole of a ground.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: KnebworthPar  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:19

Connor Young starting. Very much looking forward to seeing him up front. Was surprised at how big he looked when he came on as a sub.
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:21

Bit worried kanes no starting, hope young does well though. Where’s yeboah playing ?

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:35

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Toddyrov, Sat 15 Feb 14:21

Bit worried kanes no starting, hope young does well though. Where’s yeboah playing ?


Did seem to be injured last week. Although the astro surface could be a factor.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: KnebworthPar  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:40

I’m now struggling to remember who they all are on our team sheet!
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:40

Oluwayemi
Comrie
Ngwenya
Benedictus
Chilokoa-Mullen
Otoo
McCann
Stevens
Wotherspoon
Yeboah
C. Young


MEHMET (GK), HAMILTON, RITCHIE-HOSLER CHALMERS, FOGARTY, KANE. O`HALLORAN, OAKLEY, TAYLOR-CLARKE
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:41

Could be 442 with Otoo and Wetherspoon in midfield?
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:42

Looks like a 4-2-3-1 to me.

Tobi

Comrie
Bene
Mullen
Ngwenya

Otoo
Wotherspoon

Stevens
Yeboah
McCann

Young

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: KnebworthPar  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:48

How about 4 - 2 - 4 😂
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:51

is livi playing surface grass or astro
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 14:52

Looks to me that we`ve signed a bunch of central midfielders and have put out a team which is light in central midfield.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:02

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Rigger Al, Sat 15 Feb 14:51

is livi playing surface grass or astro


The very worst astro

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:06

Not sure Wotherspoon is suited to this type of game tbh. Bit too flaky and lightweight and needs time on the ball.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:06

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da_no_1, Sat 15 Feb 15:02

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Rigger Al, Sat 15 Feb 14:51

is livi playing surface grass or astro


The very worst astro


thanks DA ,maybe why Kane isnt playing
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:09

Hamilton, rovers and Airdrie all 1 up

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:11

More chance of picking the lottery winner than guessing what the team will be.

Need a few boys to show up and have their best game of the season to get something today. Here’s hoping and that team doesn’t look very defensive.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:11

Rhys breen OG as well.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Steviethepar2  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:16

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Rigger Al, Sat 15 Feb 15:06

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da_no_1, Sat 15 Feb 15:02

Quote:

Rigger Al, Sat 15 Feb 14:51

is livi playing surface grass or astro


The very worst astro


thanks DA ,maybe why Kane isnt playing


Almost certainly why Kane isn’t starting

Turned over to rugby on TNT - that pitch looked better than Livis
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:27

Midfield totally missing and Livingston just coming straight down the middle without much resistance. Referee losing it a bit giving them lots of soft fouls but letting them be overly physical. Still too much of us passing aimlessly at the back then chipping into crowded areas and expecting Young to be able to do something on his own. At one point almost all 22 players were in our right half of the field and nobody thought to go to our left for a switch of play and instead we went back to the keeper virtually on his own goal line. Don`t know if McCann had been told to drift in or what but they are moving it out to our left time and again.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:41

Can only hope to not concede and hope the subs make an impact in the last 30 minutes. Very much like mcpake.

Hampson can’t even get on the bench…will this scattergun signing approach actually work?

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:44

Do you feel it’s been panic buying Berkey? I worried this was the case.

I hope the youngsters can get time to gel and give us the results we need.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:46

Hampson must not look great or be injured if he can`t get on ahead of wotherspoon.

Results going against us in other games but at least f*lkirk are 2 down. Newcastle getting pumped. I hate football.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:47

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buffy, Sat 15 Feb 15:44

Do you feel it’s been panic buying Berkey? I worried this was the case.

I hope the youngsters can get time to gel and give us the results we need.


I wasn`t at first but when Hampson was signed it looked like it was a great signing and can`t even get a strip. The fact we only have 1 natural LB is a worry as well. Out all that together you can see why Berkey thinks that.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:48

How’s the new lads done ?

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: pars no1  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:51

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kozmasrightfoot, Sat 15 Feb 15:46

Hampson must not look great or be injured if he can`t get on ahead of wotherspoon.

Results going against us in other games but at least f*lkirk are 2 down. Newcastle getting pumped. I hate football.


He’s injured
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:53

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pars no1, Sat 15 Feb 15:51

Quote:

kozmasrightfoot, Sat 15 Feb 15:46

Hampson must not look great or be injured if he can`t get on ahead of wotherspoon.

Results going against us in other games but at least f*lkirk are 2 down. Newcastle getting pumped. I hate football.


He’s injured


Must have picked it up this week in training? Sure he came on last week.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:55

A Freezing February day at the worst stadium in Scotland, no goals, one shot on target from the other team, the Pars behind on every stat.

Grim, grim grim.

Thoughts are with the brave souls who are enduring that today.




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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 15:58

Some great crosses from Wotherspoon when we get corners on our left but when we get one on the right we are playing it short and getting caught on the counter.

Young is making some good runs and Ngwenya is often in acres of space but we aren`t finding them. Benedictus again the biggest culprit in slowing things down.

Yehoah trying but not getting much change from their defence and so.having to drop deep but isn`t staying there when we concede possession so we are outmanned in the middle.

We`ve had a few half chances and a header from Chilokoa-Mullen from a corner but don`t look like.creating much again. Even when we break it`s like we don`t want to over commit in case we concede on the counter. Livi probably the likeliest winners still although stats will probably say it`s quite even.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:01

It’s defo been a gamble, not many of the signings have any first team experience.

I’m not sure Tidser is having much of a say either, think the owners are bringing these guys in and Tidser in change of putting a team out on sat.

The loans got us out of trouble last season but the crucial loan was Kane who was not an untried youngster. We’re just hoping 3-4 of these players hit the ground running and are good enough. It took Walcott a good few games to come into his own too, if that happens for the other young loans we could be cut adrift from 8th before they start making an impact.

Next 3 games after today will tell us where we are. A point today would be a great result to take into those games. Airdrie Morton draw is a good result.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:03

Thanks for that update kelty

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:07

hate this tippy tappie crap at bye kicks
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:08

First shot on target cmon Pars Getintaethum!

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:15

Pars are doing fine




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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:33

Double sub for Pars
Off McCann and C Young
On Ritchie-Hosler and Oakley-Boothe

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:45

I rarely get good vibes,but I`ve got them about Boothe.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:52

FT 0-0

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:53

Good point and well deserved. Plenty of positives.




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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Rigger Al  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:53

Good second half ,promising with the young lads
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:54

Not much time for those vibes to reverberating lol. A point is better than nothing.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:54

Decent result but a shame we couldn’t get the win with the Hamilton result going against us. Three massive games coming up now and we cannot afford to lose any of them.

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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:55

Massive match next week to reel Queens in. Huge, huge 10 days coming up.
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:56

Would have taken a point any day long away to Livvy.
Big couple of weeks coming up which will decide where we are likely to be.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: USMac  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:57

That’s a good point away at one of the 3 league leaders.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 16:58

Happy with the point.Nice to hear some positive comments.
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:00

Thought we were solid today, matched Livi in the physical battle. Impressed with Steven’s, Mullen & Yeboah. Definite progress being made.
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:00

Good result that and first clean sheet for 9 league games.

Hopefully a more minutes the belt for the new guys and we go into the queens game on the back of a game with some positives.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:01

Not a terrible result but these won`t be the games that decide our championship status. Massive games coming up could do with getting into the habit of scoring goals.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:06

A good point and performance against a team that I think will win the league, we were better.

New boys impressive, really good second half performance.

Still think we will pick up points, we will lose some, but the team looks as if we are going in the right direction.

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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:07

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RossF, Sat 15 Feb 16:54

Decent result but a shame we couldn’t get the win with the Hamilton result going against us. Three massive games coming up now and we cannot afford to lose any of them.


This highlights how differently we see things.
Since the new signings have been made, I am looking up the table.
I see this as QP and Partick being pulled back a notch. I am not worried about Hamilton, Morton, or Raith. I think we can catch them.
If QP and Partick drop points, the possibility of 4th opens up.
2 weeks ago Livi gave our new lads a hard lesson and gubbed us at EEP. Today we took a point at their ground.
I said earlier that I was looking forward to seeing what has been learned over a tough fortnight.
I can`t say I am disappointed.

Like has been said, the next 3 or 4 games will give us a better idea of where we are.

Our league results since regime change are pretty encouraging, apart from Airdrie.

What has happened to them lately? Looks like they have finally woken up.
No expectations they will lose every week now.

Edited to say, it looks like Raith and QP have swapped roles after today's results.
PT seem to be imploding. Raith will fancy 4th.
I don't think it's impossible (maybe unlikely) for us to achieve.



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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Jock Par36  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:10

A vast improvement under the new Manager.
Good performance and big boost for our
fans. Livi are a good team with a lot of strength,
but we matched them well. Down a place
in the league, but I am confident we will avoid
the drop.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:12

A competitive, evenly fought game. A decent away point against 3rd top. Recent signings looking good.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:24

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PARrot, Sat 15 Feb 17:07

Quote:

RossF, Sat 15 Feb 16:54

Decent result but a shame we couldn’t get the win with the Hamilton result going against us. Three massive games coming up now and we cannot afford to lose any of them.


This highlights how differently we see things.
Since the new signings have been made, I am looking up the table.
I see this as QP and Partick being pulled back a notch. I am not worried about Hamilton, Morton, or Raith. I think we can catch them.
If QP and Partick drop points, the possibility of 4th opens up.
2 weeks ago Livi gave our new lads a hard lesson and gubbed us at EEP. Today we took a point at their ground.
I said earlier that I was looking forward to seeing what has been learned over a tough fortnight.
I can`t say I am disappointed.

Like has been said, the next 3 or 4 games will give us a better idea of where we are.

Our league results since regime change are pretty encouraging, apart from Airdrie.

What has happened to them lately? Looks like they have finally woken up.
No expectations they will lose every week now.

Edited to say, it looks like Raith and QP have swapped roles after today`s results.
PT seem to be imploding. Raith will fancy 4th.
I don`t think it`s impossible (maybe unlikely) for us to achieve.


We need to get points on the board to catch teams in 7th and 8th. We haven`t managed to string back to back wins this season. Avoiding the relegation play offs will be a good end to another car crash of a season. I can`t see us finishing any higher than 8th.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:38

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cammypar 1995, Sat 15 Feb 17:24

Quote:

PARrot, Sat 15 Feb 17:07

Quote:

RossF, Sat 15 Feb 16:54

Decent result but a shame we couldn’t get the win with the Hamilton result going against us. Three massive games coming up now and we cannot afford to lose any of them.


This highlights how differently we see things.
Since the new signings have been made, I am looking up the table.
I see this as QP and Partick being pulled back a notch. I am not worried about Hamilton, Morton, or Raith. I think we can catch them.
If QP and Partick drop points, the possibility of 4th opens up.
2 weeks ago Livi gave our new lads a hard lesson and gubbed us at EEP. Today we took a point at their ground.
I said earlier that I was looking forward to seeing what has been learned over a tough fortnight.
I can`t say I am disappointed.

Like has been said, the next 3 or 4 games will give us a better idea of where we are.

Our league results since regime change are pretty encouraging, apart from Airdrie.

What has happened to them lately? Looks like they have finally woken up.
No expectations they will lose every week now.

Edited to say, it looks like Raith and QP have swapped roles after today`s results.
PT seem to be imploding. Raith will fancy 4th.
I don`t think it`s impossible (maybe unlikely) for us to achieve.


We need to get points on the board to catch teams in 7th and 8th. We haven`t managed to string back to back wins this season. Avoiding the relegation play offs will be a good end to another car crash of a season. I can`t see us finishing any higher than 8th.


Cammy, we have only had the new lads in for a couple of weeks. I`m well aware of the past. Now I am looking forward with anticipation.
We have not strung a series of wins together yet, but I think it is coming.
Results against Falkirk, Raith, Partick, and Livi today indicate we have turned a corner.
This new squad is only going to improve.
I think on this occasion, there is some justification in my optimism.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: shellypar  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:38

How was Mr Tashan when he came on?

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: RossF  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:39

PARrot, as much as I admire your optimism I feel my views are realistic of where we are at the moment. We have improved but we have only had one excellent result since Tidser has taken over. I hope the new players can improve things but we need many victories before I stop looking down and start looking up. Results improved under Yogi for a period but we still went down. The focus is to stay up and if we do, I think we can have a right good crack at the league next season. Lastly, we badly need cover at full back!

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:48

Fairly even game in the end, with Wotherspoon having by far the best chance of the game (one he should be taking, but he hit it straight at the keeper) then Livi really turning the screw in the last 15 when we sat deeper and had to rely on some all-hands-on-deck desperate defending as we didn`t clear our lines quickly enough.

Good things were the change to 4-3-3 and a more direct style in the second half, Stevens on the right, Comrie being Mr Dependable again, the new boys all contributing. The way we got the ball high and wide a lot quicker in the first 20 or 30 monies of the second half was very promising and we looked like we`d be the likely winner. Young was making some good runs in the first half but wasn`t getting found whereas in the second half his movement was giving McCann and Stevens room to run into and we caused a lot of problems.

The only downsides were the overly slow passing in the first half, the way we let Livi press us high without an out ball and that we never used the space Young and Ngwenya were getting when we did beat the first press. We also created nothing in thst first half and retreated very deep and got very nervous when we got into the latter stages. Kane never got up to speed in the game and so nothing stuck when he came on.

A good point ahead of three massive games that will really show where we are and where we deserve to be. Promising sighs again but games against the better sides haven`t been our biggest problem so far, it`s the games against teams around us.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: BlackLight  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:49


Oakley looked pretty good when he came on.

It looks like about half of the starting eleven for the rest of the season will be players we didn`t have at the start of January.

The signings/loans have definitely improved us. Once they`ve got some time playing together under their belts, I`m pretty optimistic that we`ll be safe by the end of the season.

We could actually be quite good if they click.

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:54

36 points left to play for.

We’ll need 17 to hit the magic 40 points that should be enough.

Are we good enough to win 6 of the 12? That would be a big improvement on what we have been doing so far.

Win the next 2 home games and no worse than draw the away game and we can defo do this. Need those new guys to come onto a game game tho.



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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 17:59

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Decent result but a shame we couldn’t get the win with the Hamilton result going against us. Three massive games coming up now and we cannot afford to lose any of them.


This highlights how differently we see things.
Since the new signings have been made, I am looking up the table.
I see this as QP and Partick being pulled back a notch. I am not worried about Hamilton, Morton, or Raith. I think we can catch them.
If QP and Partick drop points, the possibility of 4th opens up.
2 weeks ago Livi gave our new lads a hard lesson and gubbed us at EEP. Today we took a point at their ground.
I said earlier that I was looking forward to seeing what has been learned over a tough fortnight.
I can`t say I am disappointed.

Like has been said, the next 3 or 4 games will give us a better idea of where we are.

Our league results since regime change are pretty encouraging, apart from Airdrie.

What has happened to them lately? Looks like they have finally woken up.
No expectations they will lose every week now.

Edited to say, it looks like Raith and QP have swapped roles after today`s results.
PT seem to be imploding. Raith will fancy 4th.
I don`t think it`s impossible (maybe unlikely) for us to achieve.


We need to get points on the board to catch teams in 7th and 8th. We haven`t managed to string back to back wins this season. Avoiding the relegation play offs will be a good end to another car crash of a season. I can`t see us finishing any higher than 8th.


Cammy, we have only had the new lads in for a couple of weeks. I`m well aware of the past. Now I am looking forward with anticipation.
We have not strung a series of wins together yet, but I think it is coming.
Results against Falkirk, Raith, Partick, and Livi today indicate we have turned a corner.
This new squad is only going to improve.
I think on this occasion, there is some justification in my optimism.


We have turned a corner yes, but we still haven`t managed to get a run together unfortunately we`re in the business end of the season and unless we go on a run nothing I`ve seen recently shows we can finish any higher than 8th we just don`t score enough goals or even covert enough chances.

c'mon the pars

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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 18:25

We absolutely have turned a corner, certainly not a blip.

I`m generally a bit wary about loan signings with limited experience, but these guys really are good.

I still think we will lose a few games, but we will win for sure, it`s possible we might be higher than 8th but I doubt it, just not enough games left, and the teams we could catch are probably too far ahead.

Either way, 8th is good, we were miles behind when we sacked McPake.

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Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 18:41

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We absolutely have turned a corner, certainly not a blip.

I`m generally a bit wary about loan signings with limited experience, but these guys really are good.

I still think we will lose a few games, but we will win for sure, it`s possible we might be higher than 8th but I doubt it, just not enough games left, and the teams we could catch are probably too far ahead.

Either way, 8th is good, we were miles behind when we sacked McPake.


Not enough games?
There are 36 points available.
We are not that far behind.
Head to heads will be crucial.

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Topic Originator: adj27  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 18:48

Back 4 were good and hardly gave Livi a look in. Otoo and Wotherspoon very solid in the middle and Stevens very good. Also liked the look of Young despite having little to play with. Not so sure about Yeboah but certainly can’t fault his effort.
KRH also got well involved when he came on although his distribution let him down.

I just feel though that we are a hard watch - we are so slow in building things up and there’s nothing for the fans to get excited about - even the SNW youngsters sounded bored today.

Overall a decent point but a bit more entertainment wouldn’t go amiss.

Andy
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Topic Originator: Par  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 19:09

A good point

looks like building a team that`s hard to beat, but we need to score some goals, maybe different tactics against teams round about us in games we need to win.

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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 19:13

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How was Mr Tashan when he came on?


He’s an absolute unit oh a boy put it this way if you came home and found him in bed with the wife you’d tuck him in 😂
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Topic Originator: Socks  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 19:27

We deserved the point from what was a very even game. Livingston had the bettter of an utterly dire first half before we were the better side in a second half that wasn`t as awful as the first. I think each side only had one serious chance - our one early in the second half that the keeper saved to his right, then theirs right at the end.

In the first half we were pretty dreadful with the ball. It looked a bad sign when we lost the ball straight from kick-off after trying to pass immediately through the middle and the first half continued that way. Generally just slow and boring when we had the ball, which we almost always gave away before we came close to doing anything. However, without the ball we did OK as we defended pretty well, preventing them from seriously threatening despite all the ball we gave them. Aaron Comrie in particular did very well. We also did well to cover a few breaks when we looked short at the back but covered the space well.

Looked like 4-2-3-1 in the first half with Young up front, changing to 4-3-3 at the start of the second half with Stevens dropping back into a deeper position. He was better there, but the whole team was better. We were a bit more direct in the second half and mixed up our play more. I don`t know how many times I`ve said in recent years that we look better when a bit more direct, but this was another example. I didn`t mind some of the short stuff in the second half because it worked quite well at taking one of their players (May) totally out of the game as he pressed on his own without ever feeling too risky. We were well in the game and most of it was in their half of the park, though after the early chance we didn`t really look like scoring.

Last few minutes it turned round and we were pushed back, but managed to see it out for a deserved point. I thought Wetherspoon had a decent game in a deep midfield position, and thankfully he got away with the mistake that led to Livingston`s late chance.

A dull game but a pretty good point, and would have taken that before the game.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 19:57

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How was Mr Tashan when he came on?


He’s an absolute unit oh a boy put it this way if you came home and found him in bed with the wife you’d tuck him in 😂


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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: coventrypar  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 23:08

Tidser has more than enough experience of playing in this league to know that you have to be physically strong. The joy is that he playing that with people who have skill on the ball too. We will stay ahead of Airdrie. If we are in a play off we will safely out muscle/skill the team in league 1. I’m possibly getting ahead of myself - next season will be fun,fun, fun.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 15 Feb 23:30

If any of the new guys had any doubts about the physicality of Scottish Championship football they`ll know about it now. Livingston are probably the toughest side to play against in that respect but we refused to be bullied and were worth our point.
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 14:44

First things first – are those steps from the town centre down to the ground the most badly designed in Scottish football? At least there was plenty of parking, although the crowd was a bit sparse, unsurprisingly – steep prices, a poor pitch and a lack of entertainment expected despite the presence of half a new team.

The food was over-priced and can no-one do mental arithmetic these days?

Anyway – onto the game. A 4-2-3-1 to begin with – it seems to be the fashion. Like Socks I was a bit concerned that the injunction to be braver on the ball would lead to hospital passes as we saw direct from the kick-off.

Tobi was the busier of the two keepers – mostly due to our insistence on playing short by-kicks and passing the ball backwards. We seemed to be at our most vulnerable from our own corners on the right as we lost possession and Livi hit us on the break. I don’t think their keeper had a save to make in the first half and maybe just the one in the second half? It’s asking a lot to take the only chance you get and Wotherspoon didn’t (he had a couple of other opportunities and failed to come close). He had a better game but struggled in his new role – booked for persistent fouling, possibly because he was trying to make challenges his older body isn’t quick enough to make any more.

The game opened up for a period in the second half (Yeboah had moved to the right) but we were painfully slow to get the ball forward at times. It looked like we were trying not to lose the game in the first half, with the idea of maybe sneaking a goal later on. To be fair, that worked insofar we got a point, but it’s clear that all the changes are more a work in progress, rather than being instantly transformational.

Of the new players, Chilukoah-Mullen looks class, Stevens also looks good, Young didn’t see a lot of the ball, and I’m not sure about Yeboah who seems to be the one to move about to accommodate different shapes or personnel. Oakley-Booth wasn’t really on for long enough. With Kane largely being spared and McCann going off injured we seemed a bit light on forward options.

Is the referee relatively new? He seems quite card-happy. I wondered if there was a degree of mutual unfamiliarity – a bit like pupils seeing how far they could go with a new teacher. Perhaps Livi games are always a bit niggly.

Other than the point and not conceding any daft goals, the most positive thing may have been MT’s interview – at least he sounds like he has a plan and a vision. Bringing them to fruition is the hard bit. Queen’s Park having a post cup shock hangover is not a surprise – they will be up for it next week.

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 15:30

Heard the crowd announced at just over 1500, looks more than that on highlights, any spectators camera side?

How can they survive on those kind of figures, especially when they are pushing for promotion?🤔
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Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 16:36

Reckon there was maybe 1100 home fans opposite the camera and maybe 600 on the same side as the camera position? Remember this season they have parachute payments and also UEFA solidarity payments for the Euros. Be a different story if they don`t go up this season you`d think.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 17:03

The official attendance was 1,798.

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Topic Originator: Par Dan  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 18:54

That Attendance is an utter disgrace. Restructure the league and anyone that can’t sell at least 3000 tickets should play in the lower leagues.
Sick of these tiny little clubs.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 19:10

I`ve been at EEP lots of times with less than 3,000 there.

Last time we were promoted to the Premier League/SPL, under 1,750 turned up to one of the home games.

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Topic Originator: Parster  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 19:24

pihs

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Topic Originator: neils  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 19:25

Why not just change to any teams that average less than 40k crowds get kicked out, just leave the 2 cheeks?

Livi (like Hamilton before them) are where they are on merit.

If they can win the league on these crowds, good luck.

Like Adonis, I`ve been to more Pars games on small crowds than bigger ones (I`ve watched us for 50 years)

Leagues should only be decided on sporting merit.

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Topic Originator: Andrew283  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 19:37

Crowd w4nk is peak cringe
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Topic Originator: Par Dan  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 19:46

It’s an absolute joke . Could have a top 16 including The Pars, Falkirk , Raith for example … the likes of Livingston???? Gees peace .
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 19:53

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Par Dan, Sun 16 Feb 19:46

It’s an absolute joke . Could have a top 16 including The Pars, Falkirk , Raith for example … the likes of Livingston???? Gees peace .


We are where we are because we aren`t good enough. Livingston is obviously a club who is a well oiled machine and has done well to stay in the premier league for so long until recently.

But we have been dreadful for a few seasons and to suggest just because our fan base we deserve to be playing at a higher level than them is what is an absolute joke.

c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Par Dan  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 19:58

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Par Dan, Sun 16 Feb 19:46

It’s an absolute joke . Could have a top 16 including The Pars, Falkirk , Raith for example … the likes of Livingston???? Gees peace .


We are where we are because we aren`t good enough. Livingston is obviously a club who is a well oiled machine and has done well to stay in the premier league for so long until recently.

But we have been dreadful for a few seasons and to suggest just because our fan base we deserve to be playing at a higher level than them is what is an absolute joke.


I agree btw . I’m all for sporting merit but it gets us absolutely nowhere . Thank you.
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Topic Originator: Connor560  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 20:21

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It’s an absolute joke . Could have a top 16 including The Pars, Falkirk , Raith for example … the likes of Livingston???? Gees peace .


Or with Falkirk, Ayr, Livi, Partick who are all above Raith at the moment.

Then there`s those 5 plus queens, morton, Hamilton who are all ahead of us.

C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Par Dan  
Date:   Sun 16 Feb 21:09

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Par Dan, Sun 16 Feb 19:46

It’s an absolute joke . Could have a top 16 including The Pars, Falkirk , Raith for example … the likes of Livingston???? Gees peace .


Or with Falkirk, Ayr, Livi, Partick who are all above Raith at the moment.

Then there`s those 5 plus queens, morton, Hamilton who are all ahead of us.


I’d happily increase the top league to 16 teams .
Would love to get there on merit of course .
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 Re: Livi v Pars
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Mon 17 Feb 22:28

If you are sad about us underperforming as a club in relation to our size of fan base then look at why that is. Years of p*** poor managerial appointments and player recruitment. Don’t turn your anger on other clubs with smaller fan bases who have used what they have more effectively.

I’d like to think at some point in the near to medium future we will eventually get it right and appoint a manager who takes us back to the SPL.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 17 Feb 22:36

We`re in a league of decent sized clubs. Some clubs are doing better due to be bankrolled while others are simply better run. We`ve been through umpteen managers in the last few years with little in the way of improvement. I`d also say we`ve lost some really decent directors and volunteers in that time too.

It obviously won`t happen this season, but I`d love to see us coming out fighting into the next season with a refreshed squad. We`ve got a hungry management team and owners who seem keen to invest in the squad. That`s a pretty solid foundation to build on IMO.
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