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Topic Originator: Parsdaft
Date: Sat 15 Feb 17:47
Seems only a matter of time before we concede a goal from this passing palaver across the width of the box. A keeper who is accurate with kick outs should be doing so more.
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Sat 15 Feb 18:13
But it’s “ the right way to play” . 🤪
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 15 Feb 18:24
Yup it`s not clever and there is absolutely nothing to gain from it. Get it binned.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Feb 18:45
Didn`t we sometimes do that under McPake too?
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Sat 15 Feb 21:59
Where have you been? This has what we and pretty much every club in the country have been doing for the past few years?
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 15 Feb 22:03
First thing you were always told as defenders years ago when I unused to play was never pass across your own box.
Week after week, we see goals gifted by slack passing, control and attacking team
Pressing.
Get the ball up the pitch.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 15 Feb 22:47
This style of play doesn’t work in the top league in England…BUT it must be the way the top coaches who get the A/B/C licence are told how to play..
They do this in grassroots football which is a joke.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Sat 15 Feb 23:24
Don`t think we`ve conceded a silly goal playing this way......yet
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 16 Feb 06:44
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 15 Feb 23:24
Don`t think we`ve conceded a silly goal playing this way......yet
We have lost a few soft goals with turning the ball over in our own half though.
But back to the point the OP was making what benefit do we get having a centre half rolling the ball 2-3 yards to the keeper from a goal kick.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sun 16 Feb 09:06
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 16 Feb 06:44
But back to the point the OP was making what benefit do we get having a centre half rolling the ball 2-3 yards to the keeper from a goal kick.
I`m not that keen on it, but the idea is that it draws the opposition forward, leaving more space up the pitch. If the opposition press, the goalkeeper can still launch it long (now to a player in more space). If they don`t press, he can make a short pass to get things going.
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Topic Originator: 7 Eleven
Date: Sun 16 Feb 09:59
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 16 Feb 06:44
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 15 Feb 23:24
Don`t think we`ve conceded a silly goal playing this way......yet
We have lost a few soft goals with turning the ball over in our own half though.
Do you have any specific examples?
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Feb 10:06
The second goal we lost at Falkirk this season was the result of having three players in our six-yard box, losing possession and playing their whole team on-side.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 16 Feb 10:49
Quote:
fcda, Sun 16 Feb 09:06
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cammypar 1995, Sun 16 Feb 06:44
But back to the point the OP was making what benefit do we get having a centre half rolling the ball 2-3 yards to the keeper from a goal kick.
I`m not that keen on it, but the idea is that it draws the opposition forward, leaving more space up the pitch. If the opposition press, the goalkeeper can still launch it long (now to a player in more space). If they don`t press, he can make a short pass to get things going.
Which would make sense if we do go long but more often than not we just end up playing it short finding ourselves in tight areas.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sun 16 Feb 10:55
Don,t mind it now and again , Tobi is reasonably accuurate with his long passing so we should vary it between both .
G.B
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 16 Feb 11:03
Quote:
7 Eleven, Sun 16 Feb 09:59
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cammypar 1995, Sun 16 Feb 06:44
Quote:
da_no_1, Sat 15 Feb 23:24
Don`t think we`ve conceded a silly goal playing this way......yet
We have lost a few soft goals with turning the ball over in our own half though.
Do you have any specific examples?
First goal against Airdrie sticks in my mind comrie passes back the way to foggarty who passes is back to him and get it`s again he tries to pass it to Todd which was never on Todd turns into trouble they break and we fail to clear the danger and they score after Tobi makes a decent save. Instead of comrie looking forward and knocking it into the channel.
We have had times where we have been well inside the opposite half and 3 passes later it`s back with Tobi. we can hurt teams getting the ball into kane and have runners in behind but we don`t seem to fancy playing direct.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Sun 16 Feb 12:06
Playing it out from the back cost us three goals against Airdrie.
Apart from anything it blunts every attack we make because by the time we eventually get the ball over the half way line the opposition are in their shape and organised. We never catch teams on the break because we don’t get the ball forward quickly enough. This is why create so few chances.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sun 16 Feb 16:42
Yeah, playing out from the back is fine if we get it forward quickly either through the lines or over the top, but when the players end up getting further and further back and the goalkeeper ends up on his own goal line trying to control a ball and find an out ball it isn`t a good plan.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 16 Feb 17:15
Quote:
kelty_par, Sun 16 Feb 16:42
Yeah, playing out from the back is fine if we get it forward quickly either through the lines or over the top, but when the players end up getting further and further back and the goalkeeper ends up on his own goal line trying to control a ball and find an out ball it isn`t a good plan.
I get the theory behind it. It’s designed to draw the opposition forward to make more space but it only works with the right players which we don’t have.
I’ve always believed a team should play to its potential and I’d say ours is better suited to more route one football.
It’s ugly but we have a keeper that can kick a ball 3/4 of the park with ease and players like McCann and Kane who can win in the air.
The time for pretty football is not when we’re second bottom.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: RossDAFC
Date: Mon 17 Feb 03:07
The idea is that if the GK plays to the RCB, the opposing striker can begin to lock off the right hand side with his press whereas if the CB plays it to the GK, the opposing striker needs to wait until the ball is redistributed to begin his press. Again, in theory, it makes playing out from the back less predictable. Using the keeper as a third centre back creates a 3v1 against most teams or a 3v2 against teams with 2 strikers.
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