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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sat 15 Feb 19:51
That was the difference today. Previously we have been out muscled - today our midfield ( with the two strikers getting stuck in ) beasted it.
Wotherspoon and Otoo. Units
Defence -solid and stuck to the brief. Midfield rock solid. Strikers - will gell together.
Unlucky today.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: gordi-b
Date: Sat 15 Feb 20:51
Bit more physicality about us with new boys in , Mullen is a real find
G.B
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 15 Feb 20:55
When we come out of our shell the league will be out oyster
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 15 Feb 21:24
Mullen and Stevens (second half) were stand outs today.
McCann I hate it say looks absolutely clueless on the left, never got close to the right back at all in the first half, he was coming to far in and leaving him too much space.
Change of shape midway through the first half seemed to suit us and I felt we were the better team, especially in the second half.
Very good performance today and hopefully holds us in good stead heading into the next 3 crucial matches against QP, Hamilton and Morton.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 15 Feb 22:48
Chalmers was found out last week and McCann this week..
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sat 15 Feb 23:02
Alter … I think he will play McCann if we need weight and stature. I suspect against less physical teams than livi there might be somebody else on the left or we just go right and middle.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 15 Feb 23:13
I see where you’re coming from but Tidser wants to play from the back and needs quick passing midfielders who move the ball. McCann just doesn’t have the football brains to move the ball and pass(Aberdeen game).
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: davepars
Date: Sat 15 Feb 23:19
McCann has had a fair crack of the whip under at least 3 managers now.
I just don`t think he has it, and I absolutley hate to say that.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 16 Feb 00:31
I’d be surprised if Lewis started the next game. I think others will be given a chance to impress.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 16 Feb 08:21
He’s on borrowed time as the new boys settle and get their fitness up.
Feels like last chance saloon for him to start producing something on even a semi consistent basis, the new owners are going to bring in better attack minded players and we’ll likely have a better squad for next season.
Can’t see him improving much as some of the basics not there, surely the new owners will be running stats on our current team’s effectiveness too. It will be interesting to see where he ends up and how he gets on though assuming he moves on.
Post Edited (Sun 16 Feb 08:21)
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Sun 16 Feb 09:19
Quote:
Berkey, Sun 16 Feb 08:21
He’s on borrowed time as the new boys settle and get their fitness up.
Feels like last chance saloon for him to start producing something on even a semi consistent basis, the new owners are going to bring in better attack minded players and we’ll likely have a better squad for next season.
Can’t see him improving much as some of the basics not there, surely the new owners will be running stats on our current team’s effectiveness too. It will be interesting to see where he ends up and how he gets on though assuming he moves on.
Kelty hearts a bet
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Feb 10:08
This forum`s obsession with Lewis McCann continues. It`s curious.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 16 Feb 10:29
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 16 Feb 10:08
This forum`s obsession with Lewis McCann continues. It`s curious.
Nothing curious about it.
Lewis has been here since he could kick a ball and folk care about him.
He hasn`t managed to produce the hoped-for results, which may, or may not be his fault. So many managers are disrupting potential.
It has reached the point where there is a split of opinion whether he should stay and keep trying with more stable management, or move on to a fresh challenge for his own benefit.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Feb 10:37
It`s curious to me that just about every thread about the team involves him when they weren`t initially about him.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Sun 16 Feb 11:07
Well, if the thread is about the team, McCann (and others) will rightly be commented upon, given he is a regular starter in said team...
Post Edited (Sun 16 Feb 11:07)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Feb 11:28
Imagine football fans discussing a players (who starts every single week) ability and productivity for the team……
McCann is one of these 1 in 10 guys, who plays well once that then keeps him in the team for 10 games. Id be shocked if he gets dropped, unless they put MOH/KRH on the left instead, as theres no viable out and out left winger.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Feb 11:49
From what I`ve seen Archie Stevens could play on the left if the manager was considering an option there. It seems to be the case though that `football people` value McCann`s contribution more than the average fan does.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Feb 12:24
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 16 Feb 11:49
From what I`ve seen Archie Stevens could play on the left if the manager was considering an option there. It seems to be the case though that `football people` value McCann`s contribution more than the average fan does.
And those “football people” have had us relegated and in the bottom half of the Championship for the last 3 seasons we’ve spent in it…..
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Feb 12:31
The two things aren`t necessarily connected. We`ve had off-the-field issues too, the last one being a freezing of the playing budget.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 16 Feb 12:45
People post opinions on his ability based on a knowledge of football that they don`t possess. It is realy entertaining sometimes trying to take in how inflated so many egos are on here.
No training, no qualifications, no experience. Just a wealth of wisdom based on unqualified opinion.
I often wonder how many of the most prolific of these believe they could do better given the chance. I mean in coaching or management.
I daren`t ask because I think I could do myself an injury laughing at some of the replies.
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Sun 16 Feb 13:21
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 16 Feb 12:45
People post opinions on his ability based on a knowledge of football that they don`t possess. It is realy entertaining sometimes trying to take in how inflated so many egos are on here.
No training, no qualifications, no experience. Just a wealth of wisdom based on unqualified opinion.
I often wonder how many of the most prolific of these believe they could do better given the chance. I mean in coaching or management.
I daren`t ask because I think I could do myself an injury laughing at some of the replies.
Think this probably covers everyone realistically and not just in sport. People have opinions, some stronger than others on politics, world affairs, medical, the weather and numerous other aspects of life.
All with no experience, qualifications or anything else
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 16 Feb 14:50
Quote:
Connor560, Sun 16 Feb 13:21
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 16 Feb 12:45
People post opinions on his ability based on a knowledge of football that they don`t possess. It is realy entertaining sometimes trying to take in how inflated so many egos are on here.
No training, no qualifications, no experience. Just a wealth of wisdom based on unqualified opinion.
I often wonder how many of the most prolific of these believe they could do better given the chance. I mean in coaching or management.
I daren`t ask because I think I could do myself an injury laughing at some of the replies.
Think this probably covers everyone realistically and not just in sport. People have opinions, some stronger than others on politics, world affairs, medical, the weather and numerous other aspects of life.
All with no experience, qualifications or anything else
True enough. I`ll cut some slack, lol.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 16 Feb 18:44
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 16 Feb 11:49
From what I`ve seen Archie Stevens could play on the left if the manager was considering an option there. It seems to be the case though that `football people` value McCann`s contribution more than the average fan does.
That`ll be the same football people who lost their jobs Eck ?
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 16 Feb 18:51
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 16 Feb 18:44
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 16 Feb 11:49
From what I`ve seen Archie Stevens could play on the left if the manager was considering an option there. It seems to be the case though that `football people` value McCann`s contribution more than the average fan does.
That`ll be the same football people who lost their jobs Eck ?
McCann will be fortunate to be given a contract extension and could probably argue with stats to back it up that mcpake shouldn`t have given him an extension either.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Sun 16 Feb 19:31
Parrot, what is the point of being a football fan if you don`t have opinions, misguided or otherwise,football is not the medical profession where we should listen a bit more to the experts.
We are all `experts`, that`s part of the joy. It`s a brutal business (which is also part of it) where heroes go to zeros fast.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Feb 19:49
The point is that football is a `zero sum game`. For every winner there`s a loser, no matter how well-qualified they are. Punters on the other hand can voice an opinion knowing their views and theories will never be tested in practice. I think it gives us a false impression of our capabilities and that`s just reinforced when we see someone we`ve criticised getting the sack.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 16 Feb 19:57
Quote:
neils, Sun 16 Feb 19:31
Parrot, what is the point of being a football fan if you don`t have opinions, misguided or otherwise,football is not the medical profession where we should listen a bit more to the experts.
We are all `experts`, that`s part of the joy. It`s a brutal business (which is also part of it) where heroes go to zeros fast.
Im not opposed to it at all. You are perfectly right.
It is important, though, to remind ourselves of our limitations when we set about destroying young men with noble aspirations.
Some folk attempt that with no thought of the potential consequences.
It is also a likely fact, which some may venture to dispute, that if any one of us was to take charge of a team at this level, or even the seaside level, that team would be relegated.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 16 Feb 20:00
Total appearances 169
Goals 28
assist 14
Yellow cards 20
With a goal to game ratio of 9.8
104 games in the championship and only scoring in 11 of them shows the struggle at this level.
And to be honest probably our biggest problem this season has been converting chances. Wotherspoon had a brilliant chance yesterday and put it straight at the Keeper. We need to be more unforgiving when a chance is offered our way especially now where every point is important.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 16 Feb 20:09
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 16 Feb 19:57
Quote:
neils, Sun 16 Feb 19:31
Parrot, what is the point of being a football fan if you don`t have opinions, misguided or otherwise,football is not the medical profession where we should listen a bit more to the experts.
We are all `experts`, that`s part of the joy. It`s a brutal business (which is also part of it) where heroes go to zeros fast.
Im not opposed to it at all. You are perfectly right.
It is important, though, to remind ourselves of our limitations when we set about destroying young men with noble aspirations.
Some folk attempt that with no thought of the potential consequences.
It is also a likely fact, which some may venture to dispute, that if any one of us was to take charge of a team at this level, or even the seaside level, that team would be relegated.
So what`s the difference between someone commenting on a player`s ability and you mocking their opinion?
Do you remind yourself of your limitations when you act the mother superior?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Feb 20:33
One difference is that anyone who is `mocked` on here has the chance to reply in person, which isn`t really the case for players or other club employees.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 16 Feb 20:48
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 16 Feb 20:33
One difference is that anyone who is `mocked` on here has the chance to reply in person, which isn`t really the case for players or other club employees.
They are meant to respond to it on the pitch…..
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 16 Feb 21:29
I`m not sure `mockery` is a great motivator.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 16 Feb 21:37
“Mockery” 😅 if a player is brutal then I would say he has been brutal!
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Mon 17 Feb 06:33
Never seen a thread with so much irony.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 17 Feb 08:06
We don’t all wear our black and white tinted glasses and think every player is perfect and playing the best they can.
If that was the case we wouldn’t be in the position we are in.
We as fans are entitled to give our opinion on players performances and in most cases the majority agree and all say the same thing, it’s only a select few who appear to disagree with everything that appears ‘negative’.
If players read this forum, which I doubt they do, then any critique would surely be used in a way to prove them wrong so to speak and make sure your next performance is better.
Post Edited (Mon 17 Feb 08:06)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 17 Feb 10:50
Think the problem is more around knowing when something is not working and it’s not going to work to the level required.
Do you need to be an football expert to know that for example McCann is going to regularly play to a good championship level if for the last 5-6 seasons of evidence suggests this is not going to be the case?
I get a lot on here are hoping he’s going to come good as a youth product and local boy who has everything physically require to make it but in the end you need more and some things are evidently hard to teach.
End of the day players move on and might improve and might not, if they are doing it for you on the pitch managers make a judgement call. Tidser will have more options than previous managers so won’t be reliant on players who have consistent struggled to make any impact at this level.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 17 Feb 10:59
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 16 Feb 20:09
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 16 Feb 19:57
Quote:
neils, Sun 16 Feb 19:31
Parrot, what is the point of being a football fan if you don`t have opinions, misguided or otherwise,football is not the medical profession where we should listen a bit more to the experts.
We are all `experts`, that`s part of the joy. It`s a brutal business (which is also part of it) where heroes go to zeros fast.
Im not opposed to it at all. You are perfectly right.
It is important, though, to remind ourselves of our limitations when we set about destroying young men with noble aspirations.
Some folk attempt that with no thought of the potential consequences.
It is also a likely fact, which some may venture to dispute, that if any one of us was to take charge of a team at this level, or even the seaside level, that team would be relegated.
So what`s the difference between someone commenting on a player`s ability and you mocking their opinion?
Do you remind yourself of your limitations when you act the mother superior?
I can`t make any sense out of that. It`s not even worth the response.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 17 Feb 11:45
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 17 Feb 10:59
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 16 Feb 20:09
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 16 Feb 19:57
Quote:
neils, Sun 16 Feb 19:31
Parrot, what is the point of being a football fan if you don`t have opinions, misguided or otherwise,football is not the medical profession where we should listen a bit more to the experts.
We are all `experts`, that`s part of the joy. It`s a brutal business (which is also part of it) where heroes go to zeros fast.
Im not opposed to it at all. You are perfectly right.
It is important, though, to remind ourselves of our limitations when we set about destroying young men with noble aspirations.
Some folk attempt that with no thought of the potential consequences.
It is also a likely fact, which some may venture to dispute, that if any one of us was to take charge of a team at this level, or even the seaside level, that team would be relegated.
So what`s the difference between someone commenting on a player`s ability and you mocking their opinion?
Do you remind yourself of your limitations when you act the mother superior?
I can`t make any sense out of that. It`s not even worth the response.
And there you go, smart ar5e as per usual.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 17 Feb 11:47
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 17 Feb 11:45
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 17 Feb 10:59
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 16 Feb 20:09
Quote:
PARrot, Sun 16 Feb 19:57
Quote:
neils, Sun 16 Feb 19:31
Parrot, what is the point of being a football fan if you don`t have opinions, misguided or otherwise,football is not the medical profession where we should listen a bit more to the experts.
We are all `experts`, that`s part of the joy. It`s a brutal business (which is also part of it) where heroes go to zeros fast.
Im not opposed to it at all. You are perfectly right.
It is important, though, to remind ourselves of our limitations when we set about destroying young men with noble aspirations.
Some folk attempt that with no thought of the potential consequences.
It is also a likely fact, which some may venture to dispute, that if any one of us was to take charge of a team at this level, or even the seaside level, that team would be relegated.
So what`s the difference between someone commenting on a player`s ability and you mocking their opinion?
Do you remind yourself of your limitations when you act the mother superior?
I can`t make any sense out of that. It`s not even worth the response.
And there you go, smart ar5e as per usual.
Neither does that. You are just rambling now.
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Topic Originator: fergie
Date: Mon 17 Feb 12:54
Quote:
Ahoy!Ahoy!, Sat 15 Feb 21:24
Mullen and Stevens (second half) were stand outs today.
McCann I hate it say looks absolutely clueless on the left, never got close to the right back at all in the first half, he was coming to far in and leaving him too much space.
Change of shape midway through the first alf seemed to suit us and I felt we were the better team, especially in the second half.
Very good performance today and hopefully holds us in good stead heading into the next 3 crucial matches against QP, Hamilton and Morton.
We must have been at different games as I saw McCann as one of our better players especially in the first half. He was busy throughout the game and subject to number of heavy challenges from a very physical team.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Mon 17 Feb 16:40
McCann was out of position so much especially in the first half. He let that pass down the right hand side time and time again, the same as Aberdeen game. He seems to go far to narrow and leave to much space down the flank.
At one point Stevens was running across to the left hand side and McCann was on the right wing?? There was no like there, that seemed bizarre to me.
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