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Topic Originator: RMGpar
Date: Wed 5 Mar 18:14
Video up on youtube with Cook, with the club update....
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Wed 5 Mar 19:00
Cook sounds like a proper Chav who’s completely out of his depth in the job he’s supposed to be doing!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 5 Mar 19:29
I didn`t get that impression at all.
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Topic Originator: MikeyDee
Date: Wed 5 Mar 19:32
Neither did I
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Topic Originator: The Artful Dodger
Date: Wed 5 Mar 19:33
Topic Originator: ParfectXI like
Date: Wed 5 Mar 19:00
Cook sounds like a proper Chav who’s completely out of his depth in the job he’s supposed to be doing.
Strange take that reeks of classism imo. Not Cook’s biggest fan but that interview was more than adequate.
Post Edited (Wed 05 Mar 19:35)
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Wed 5 Mar 19:44
Not a big fan of Cook but didn’t think he came across that way at all. He did say the last time he aims to communicate more with fans and failed to do so. Hopefully this time he means it.
I’m disappointed the Rosyth facility wasn’t addressed. This was the clubs pride and joy not too long ago and you hardly hear a peep now.
Once again it sounds positive for the future but I remain skeptical until I see evidence. Pars fans have been told many times in the last few years that the future is exciting and I’m still to see it. Hopefully we will survive and build on next season. Sadly at the moment it all seems to rely on Chris Kane’s fitness from now til the end of the season.
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Wed 5 Mar 20:04
Came across well. Nothing too surprising but positive noises about increasing fan engagement and restarting the fan forums.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Wed 5 Mar 20:06
I thought he came across quite well and hopefully we can look forward to a positive future for the Club
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Wed 5 Mar 20:07
Came across well, and explained as much as he could I suppose.
Sounded promising, and he explained clearly, I feel no need for him to make statements about everything anyway, and it`s clear why he couldn`t make updates before.
Make no bones about it, we are pushing towards staying up this season with most of the squad not at this level, We were in a real state before the season started, so I he strengthening is more than welcome, and I feel we are in a much better place.
It was interesting , Gordon Waddell was on off the ball last week, and he was saying he assumed at the start we would be doomed this season due to our mess, but we`ve hung on there
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 5 Mar 20:16
Cook spoke very well I thought. Agree about not mentioning things like the training facility.
Have to confess I assumed ALL clubs were doing analytical work as it seems like common sense to me. Interesting to hear so few are doing it properly.
Pleased to hear one of the board is a marketing person. I felt that when we were in the 1st Division the marketing was fantastic. That then disappeared after we got promoted. I`ve said it on here before but we need to get the club representing Dunfermline the city as well as the club. Things like the work volunteers do going round schools is one part of it but it`d be great to look at other ways to get the kids and their families in Dunfermline supporting the Pars even if they can`t make it along to EEP. Depressing.enough seeing Fife kids and adults wearing Celtic/Rangers shirts but even worse when it`s English, German and Spanish teams. Maybe get Leish to use his powers as Provost to create a local bylaw banning non-Pars shirts!
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 5 Mar 20:28
I didn`t realise Park Bench Sports were also involved at Septemvri in Bulgaria. Penny just dropped about why Mebude ended up there until the end of the season!!
I wonder if we might see more players moving between Septemvri, us and Cordoba. I did wonder if someone doing well like Mullin might end up moving `up` to Cordoba.
Good news re: Sky being put back in. If they get the screens sorted too then it might help encourage folk along a bit earlier.
Good interview all round.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 5 Mar 21:56
Quote:
ParfectXI, Wed 5 Mar 19:00
Cook sounds like a proper Chav who’s completely out of his depth in the job he’s supposed to be doing!
That sir is utter pihs.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 5 Mar 22:26
Quote:
CitizenPar, Wed 5 Mar 20:06
I thought he came across quite well and hopefully we can look forward to a positive future for the Club
agree
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 5 Mar 22:52
No complaints from me with the interview. The right questions were asked and we got some honest replies not just the usual waffle you expect sometimes.
I do think should we survive relegation our future is bright.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 5 Mar 23:05
Tbh I think it was a well put rehearsed interview beforehand but Mr Cook came out well from it. Let’s see what happens.
Mon the Pars!
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Wed 5 Mar 23:31
It was obvious it was a well rehearsed interview. In the interest of balance, I`d like to pick up on some points.
We were told back in pre-season that we would get regular updates. Well it`s March now. Not my idea of regular. Again, we are promised this will be more frequent going forward. Let`s see.
Mr Cook advised that Pars fans should not be worried about another huge loss. We were told the same one year ago by GMBH. 7 months later they wanted out. Could we be looking at the same one year down the line?
Only two other clubs published their accounts for the same period - Partick recorded a loss of £152K and Queen`s Park a loss of £364K but Queen`s did move into their new stadium during this period. Compare these numbers to ours. I did not include Falkirk and Livi as they were in different leagues.
We have appointed Scott Gordon to the board. We are told that he comes as a Comms and Marketing expert. We already have Alister Burn - Head of Commercial and Chris Addison - Marketing Manager. David Cook was Chief Commercial Officer at Notts Forest. How many commercial/marketing people do we need? We can`t even sell out the Hospitality Boxes. How much are we paying for these guys? it`s been well stated from various that Mr Cook is on £160K. Let`s assume Alister and Chris take £100K between them and Scott will probably be on at least £75K - that`s £335K and probably conservative. Can a club in the Championship really support this expense?
Edit
I`ve just seen the Courier report that Raith made £48,295 for the 12 months to the end of May last year. Mr Cook said it was practically impossible to make a profit and maintain "sporting performance". Raith proved you can do both. For a long time they looked like they could win the league.
Post Edited (Wed 05 Mar 23:39)
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Wed 5 Mar 23:47
He wasn`t good ir bad bit just spouted what we all knew
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Thu 6 Mar 00:01
So I got the impression data analysis choose our signings and not the manager or does the manager choose then they do data to see if they would fit? …. Thumbs up for Sky Sports 👍
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 6 Mar 00:05
How can we complain we get no information then, when an interview like this is done, complain that we learned nothing new?
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Topic Originator: GPar00
Date: Thu 6 Mar 00:22
To your first point OorWullie, you must have selective hearing - he literally explains why he couldn’t give regular updates. NDAs meant Cook and anyone involved in that process couldn’t speak about it. So he answered your point in a sentence. And thinking back, the club went up for sale in late August/ early September? The local directors also released a statement at the time saying this had caught them off guard as the Germans had expressed their commitment previously. So an update then would have been futile, and then the NDAs would have been signed once serious offers were presented. Leaving no time, until now, to be legally allowed to update supporters.
If the owners left us debt free and sold us to ParkBench with the understanding that losses of this magnitude are possible, then what is there to worry about? The Germans might have thought it was profitable but James Bord and co are clearly aware that losses of this size can happen, especially with poor planning (small squads and a lot of injuries). Already seeing that being turned around with signings and outside strength and conditioning consulting.
You mentioned QP but they are bank rolled by a Lord. And they sold the national stadium to the SFA for millions so I’d expect them to have some spare money going around.
Raith, well, worst kept secret in Fife about where they get their cash from, allegedly. And if a 400%(or whatever it is) increase in pie sales seems off, then it probably is.
Partick keep needing fan handouts and their playing squad reflects this - if they didn’t have Brian Graham they wouldn’t be far off us.
Commercial guys are fighting with one arm behind their back when the product (the football) isn’t exactly exhilarating. Selling hospitality is a lot harder when we aren’t winning every week, but he did acknowledge that we have been improving on commercial targets - something which was reflected in the accounts.
Won’t even go near your ‘well documented’ claim on people’s salaries - this forum is not based on facts. Sooner people realise that the better.
It was as good an update as they could provide for the position we are in. It’s hard to be positive but the club seem to all be pulling in the right direction now with new owners and new management focusing on winning games of football.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Thu 6 Mar 01:04
Quote:
GPar00, Thu 6 Mar 00:22
To your first point OorWullie, you must have selective hearing - he literally explains why he couldn’t give regular updates. NDAs meant Cook and anyone involved in that process couldn’t speak about it. So he answered your point in a sentence. And thinking back, the club went up for sale in late August/ early September? The local directors also released a statement at the time saying this had caught them off guard as the Germans had expressed their commitment previously. So an update then would have been futile, and then the NDAs would have been signed once serious offers were presented. Leaving no time, until now, to be legally allowed to update supporters.
If the owners left us debt free and sold us to ParkBench with the understanding that losses of this magnitude are possible, then what is there to worry about? The Germans might have thought it was profitable but James Bord and co are clearly aware that losses of this size can happen, especially with poor planning (small squads and a lot of injuries). Already seeing that being turned around with signings and outside strength and conditioning consulting.
You mentioned QP but they are bank rolled by a Lord. And they sold the national stadium to the SFA for millions so I’d expect them to have some spare money going around.
Raith, well, worst kept secret in Fife about where they get their cash from, allegedly. And if a 400%(or whatever it is) increase in pie sales seems off, then it probably is.
Partick keep needing fan handouts and their playing squad reflects this - if they didn’t have Brian Graham they wouldn’t be far off us.
Commercial guys are fighting with one arm behind their back when the product (the football) isn’t exactly exhilarating. Selling hospitality is a lot harder when we aren’t winning every week, but he did acknowledge that we have been improving on commercial targets - something which was reflected in the accounts.
Won’t even go near your ‘well documented’ claim on people’s salaries - this forum is not based on facts. Sooner people realise that the better.
It was as good an update as they could provide for the position we are in. It’s hard to be positive but the club seem to all be pulling in the right direction now with new owners and new management focusing on winning games of football.
Good post
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Topic Originator: OorWullie
Date: Thu 6 Mar 03:07
Quote:
GPar00, Thu 6 Mar 00:22
To your first point OorWullie, you must have selective hearing - he literally explains why he couldn’t give regular updates. NDAs meant Cook and anyone involved in that process couldn’t speak about it. So he answered your point in a sentence. And thinking back, the club went up for sale in late August/ early September? The local directors also released a statement at the time saying this had caught them off guard as the Germans had expressed their commitment previously. So an update then would have been futile, and then the NDAs would have been signed once serious offers were presented. Leaving no time, until now, to be legally allowed to update supporters.
If the owners left us debt free and sold us to ParkBench with the understanding that losses of this magnitude are possible, then what is there to worry about? The Germans might have thought it was profitable but James Bord and co are clearly aware that losses of this size can happen, especially with poor planning (small squads and a lot of injuries). Already seeing that being turned around with signings and outside strength and conditioning consulting.
You mentioned QP but they are bank rolled by a Lord. And they sold the national stadium to the SFA for millions so I’d expect them to have some spare money going around.
Raith, well, worst kept secret in Fife about where they get their cash from, allegedly. And if a 400%(or whatever it is) increase in pie sales seems off, then it probably is.
Partick keep needing fan handouts and their playing squad reflects this - if they didn’t have Brian Graham they wouldn’t be far off us.
Commercial guys are fighting with one arm behind their back when the product (the football) isn’t exactly exhilarating. Selling hospitality is a lot harder when we aren’t winning every week, but he did acknowledge that we have been improving on commercial targets - something which was reflected in the accounts.
Won’t even go near your ‘well documented’ claim on people’s salaries - this forum is not based on facts. Sooner people realise that the better.
It was as good an update as they could provide for the position we are in. It’s hard to be positive but the club seem to all be pulling in the right direction now with new owners and new management focusing on winning games of football.
Thanks , David. Good of you to come on. Your other post was to criticise David Laming.
Updates could have been given before Bord got involved. Updates could have been given on non sensitive topics, not 100% radio silence.
People that are wealthy have not done so because they are happy to lose money. Investors want a return.
Regardless, QP losses are much less. What happens if the lord walks away? Look at Gretna.
Pars fans don’t contribute to our club? Get a grip
Rather than throw more people at the problem, get creative. Stop asking long standing sponsors to pay up front for their box or worse, take it off them if they don’t have the full ten people. Think long term or you end up with an empty box, as has been proven.
It’s not based on facts from the forum but our club has lots of leaks and I’m not talking about our ush
Let’s hope we are all united. I type as a concerned fan. I’m not afraid to criticise if I feel the club is being poorly run
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Thu 6 Mar 08:07
Glad they are listening to suggestions about legends maybe redo the seats and it might be a good asset.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Thu 6 Mar 09:12
Very open discussion, very clear. Really encouraging to hear how the new owners are so engaged on a daily basis, that hopefully bodes well. Am always a bit baffled by why some folk are so down on Cook.
Post Edited (Thu 06 Mar 09:13)
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Thu 6 Mar 09:25
While we know the questions are pre-arranged, but a lot covered there by David Cook and Steven Mill, questions the fans would want answered, apart from progress on the training ground…
It does sound like fingers crossed for less injuries, and selling on anyone who can command a decent fee and we’re in a healthier financial position. The latter’s probably the way for all Scottish clubs and we’re no different. We’ve come through a torrid 2-3 seasons, so if we can avoid the drop, and make some decent signings this summer, identified by sports and performance analysis, the future can only be better. You’ve got to be an optimist to support the Pars.
Also good to hear the fans forums will be coming back (when?), and talks about taking these out into the community rather than only at EEP. Unlikely to have the owners present though.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Thu 6 Mar 09:54
Great post from GPar00
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