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 Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:35

They know who they are. Missing in action ?

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Dumpster  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:38

Drowning their sorrows before putting their spin on things. I’m sure they’ll be along shortly…
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:41

Finishing 9th will only prolong the agony ,we are going down .

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:42

Probably either just leaving ground or on way home. Games just finished ffs





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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: buffy  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:43

Having a go at fans who have different opinions isn’t going to help anyone.

Grow up.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:43

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DJAS, Fri 14 Mar 21:42

Probably either just leaving ground or on way home. Games just finished ffs


Game was done at half time to be fair

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:43

Do I think Tidser is doing a good job? No. Do I think he`s entirely to blame? No. Players, especially the senior pros have to take a lot of responsibility. The board/owners/John Colquhoun need to take a lot of responsibility for bringing in a bunch of duds in the same way Falkirk did when they were relegated under Hartley. Don`t know why folk would be so delighted to post about how "right" they are and how "wrong" others have been when we should all be raging at how awful we were tonight tbh.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Dumpster  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:44

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DJAS, Fri 14 Mar 21:42

Probably either just leaving ground or on way home. Games just finished ffs


There’s hardly anyone at the ground. Far more fans watching behind their couches
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: AveragePar  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:44

Tidser again not coming over to the fans
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: DJAS  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:50

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cammypar 1995, Fri 14 Mar 21:43

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DJAS, Fri 14 Mar 21:42

Probably either just leaving ground or on way home. Games just finished ffs


Game was done at half time to be fair


Maybe so didn’t mean we all ****** off then though





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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: steaua  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:53

i wouldn`t say Mullins is a dud.!

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:53

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kelty_par, Fri 14 Mar 21:43

Do I think Tidser is doing a good job? No. Do I think he`s entirely to blame? No. Players, especially the senior pros have to take a lot of responsibility. The board/owners/John Colquhoun need to take a lot of responsibility for bringing in a bunch of duds in the same way Falkirk did when they were relegated under Hartley. Don`t know why folk would be so delighted to post about how "right" they are and how "wrong" others have been when we should all be raging at how awful we were tonight tbh.


Good points, KP




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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 21:54

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steaua, Fri 14 Mar 21:53

i wouldn`t say Mullins is a dud.!


Not at all.




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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Gaz3822  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:00

Had a smashed coupon, could easily say he couldn`t carry on but didn`t. His head must have felt awful but was still our best player. Wtf does that say about the other frauds in a Pars top ?

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:00

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kelty_par, Fri 14 Mar 21:43

Do I think Tidser is doing a good job? No. Do I think he`s entirely to blame? No. Players, especially the senior pros have to take a lot of responsibility. The board/owners/John Colquhoun need to take a lot of responsibility for bringing in a bunch of duds in the same way Falkirk did when they were relegated under Hartley. Don`t know why folk would be so delighted to post about how "right" they are and how "wrong" others have been when we should all be raging at how awful we were tonight tbh.


When said folk have called out folk for seeing where this was going , and then pick holes in every critical comment of the club , you right they should be applauded for being stand up guys

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:03

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buffy, Fri 14 Mar 21:43

Having a go at fans who have different opinions isn’t going to help anyone.

Grow up.


Remember that when they appear tomorrow and have a go at those that have been calling out ,how poor we are for weeks .

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Bertie Paton  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:05

Get yer Tidser out

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Par Dan  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:08

Get Yer Tidsers Out For The Lads
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:13

It`s painful right now, but the last two defeats are no worse than we did in the same two games of the second quarter. We`ll hae tae beat Livi at hame now to keep on track if we`re to equal our second quarter total. That`s perspective. It seems a forlorn hope right now mind.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:15

They will lie low for a day or two and then come on with a bit of spin and tell us we are being too negative. As if hopes and dreams could improve this utter sh*tshow.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:18

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onandupthepars, Fri 14 Mar 22:13

It`s painful right now, but the last two defeats are no worse than we did in the same two games of the second quarter. We`ll hae tae beat Livi at hame now to keep on track if we`re to equal our second quarter total. That`s perspective. It seems a forlorn hope right now mind.


And how are we going to do that we have been second best by a country mile in back to back massive games and shat the bed.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:20

Our total of points won at hame has been several country miles better.



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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: broontroot  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:27

It`s obvious for all to see , Tidsers tactics aren`t working with this team , if he doesn`t adapt quickly he deserves to be out of a job
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:28

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onandupthepars, Fri 14 Mar 22:20

Our home total of points won has been a country mile better.


We’re 2nd bottom. We’ve just been pumped by a below average Raith Rovers. We never had 1 shot on target against Grangemouth. Chris Kane and a formation change saved the day against Morton.
We got beat by Hamilton in an embarrassingly bad performance.
Drew at home to QP without threatening a goal.

There’s no defence for anyone that’s been in the Pars dressing room this season. Tidser got to go

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:30

We would be bottom if Wilson had been fit for airdrie all season

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:34

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Toddyrov, Fri 14 Mar 22:30

We would be bottom if Wilson had been fit for airdrie all season


Oh FFS! Are things no bad enough you have to publicise your fantasies to make them even worse?

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:37

NMC Massive,

We agree, we`ve been poor away fae hame, but I`d settle for anither four points fae Morton and QP would you no`?

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:40

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onandupthepars, Fri 14 Mar 22:37

NMC Massive,

We agree, we`ve been poor away fae hame, but I`d settle for anither four points fae Morton and QP would you no`?


Seriously???

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:43

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Toddyrov, Fri 14 Mar 22:30

We would be bottom if Wilson had been fit for airdrie all season


Now that’s nonsense. He’s only missed two games all season. And scored a grand total of 8 goals.
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: youngestdafcfan  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:44

If we can`t beat the likes of Airdrie, Hamilton etc then we don`t deserve to be in the league anyway.
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Toddyrov  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:46

That’s my bad I thought he was out longer, just seen the form pick up and noticed he was bagging goals.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: onandupthepars  
Date:   Fri 14 Mar 22:58

Ref: NMCmassive, Fri 14 Mar 22:40

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onandupthepars:

NMC Massive,

We agree, we`ve been poor away fae hame, but I`d settle for anither four
points fae Morton and QP would you no`?

NMC: Seriously???

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You`re supposed tae say - how are we gonnae get four points fae them, when we`ve tae play them AWAY?

You`re right. An oversight.

Still, we`re a better team at hame than away, no doubt about that.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Paralex  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 00:44

Saltonsgonnagetu has a neat way of being the archetypal, perpetual, self-righteous protester. From memory it was he and his ilk who led the protests for new manager and influx of new players, having been warned that new may be, in fact worse. Now he`s rattling his sand bucket again because what he was warned of is coming home to roost. None of us were under the misapprehension that there was a quick fix to our plight. Grow up and take the medication saltonsgonagetu.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 01:32

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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 14 Mar 21:35

They know who they are. Missing in action ?


I don`t think there has been much of that for a few weeks.
I hoped we had turned a corner and felt they needed time to gel. I had high hopes, but I have made no excuses for our performances since losing to QP and Hamilton.

How do we fix it though. Can we afford to sack another management team.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Never10yairds  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 01:43

Can they afford not to sack him parrot?

The loss of revenue from relegation will be bad enough, then you will have an additional loss of revenue when season ticket and merch sales plummet because nobody is interested in watching tidserball.

The owners will need to admit they got it wrong and pony up the cash to pay for their mistakes and they will. Either now, at the end of the season when we are relegated or when we are struggling in league one next autumn.

All things considered it’s better if they just do it now. It was a stupid appointment but they need to rectify it and make a better one. I get they are new to the Scottish game and all so you can cut them some slack. I actually point the finger at John Colquhoun and David cook, who really should have known better.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 03:26

While we are here does anyone want to try and defend Lewis McCann for that complete non attempt at blocking Paul Hanlon from nodding it in for the second ?
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Jock Par36  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 03:33

Some of our fans seem to think we will
finish 9th and into a relegation play off. Take
it from me, we will not be in any play offs.
We will be automatically relegated. Airdrie will
catch us.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: NMCmassive  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 05:43

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Back_oh_the_net, Sat 15 Mar 03:26

While we are here does anyone want to try and defend Lewis McCann for that complete non attempt at blocking Paul Hanlon from nodding it in for the second ?


No. That was terrible. McCann deserves to be dropped it was that bad.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 06:51

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PARrot, Sat 15 Mar 01:32

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saltonsgonagetu, Fri 14 Mar 21:35

They know who they are. Missing in action ?


I don`t think there has been much of that for a few weeks.
I hoped we had turned a corner and felt they needed time to gel. I had high hopes, but I have made no excuses for our performances since losing to QP and Hamilton.

How do we fix it though. Can we afford to sack another management team.


It will cost at least 1 million if we go down and remember that was with Falkirk in the league at the time so probably will be more. I`m not sure how much it will cost to get rid of the 2 halfwits we brought it but I`d assume it will not even be close to that figure.

That being said these so called players are an absolute embarrassment to the club and themselves. 2 crucial big games and the shat the bed bar Mullen who wasn`t even that good, everyone else was embarrassing. Considering there are contracts to play for I wouldn`t mind seeing any of this lot go. Mullen is the only one likely to go on to better things.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 07:54

No one can defend McCann for that amatuer defending, it’s not the first time he’s defended like that and it won’t be the last, 150 games and he defends like it’s his debut. His half hearted effort and clear lack of ability shown through again last night.

One of those where you can trace our downturn in the quality of our football as a club to when he started getting into the 1st 11. Yogi put him in and we went down and it’s not improved since despite regular starts.

I’m sick to the back teeth of watching these same players every week who are simply not good enough and are making the same mistakes, it’s debatable whether the likes of McCann are even good enough for league 1.

The only positive from this season is it’s clear to all that this squad will be getting emptied in the summer. I don’t hold out much hope it will get better given the recruitment under the new owners has actually been worse than what we had, it’s been god awful. Stevens looks like a 7 a side player, boothe clearly lost the passion for the game and the rest look like they should be playing under 18’s football. Special mention for Otoo who looks like a donkey these days, can’t cut in this league I’m afraid.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 09:18

Berkey, Sat 15 Mar 07:54

"One of those where you can trace our downturn in the quality of our football as a club to when he started getting into the 1st 11. Yogi put him in and we went down and it’s not improved since despite regular starts."

Sorry mate, I know I appear to pick up on your posts and your fan club will be along shortly to pile on me and defend you, but that`s ridiculous. I can`t be bothered arguing with you why as I`m totally scunnered with fitba and I know you can`t stand the guy, but what you`re suggesting is just daft.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 09:40

If we were better da no 1 then McCann would be now where near our team. He’d have been moved onto Forfar or east fife long before now.

The standard of football on show has gone down to the level where players like McCann get a game and we wonder why we’re down the bottom of the league.

It’s not his fault, it’s more a symptom of our decline.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 09:45

You do talk about McCann an awful lot to the point of it being a bit weird mate.
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 09:52

Like I said I can`t be bothered discussing McCann with you.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 10:05

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Paralex, Sat 15 Mar 00:44

Saltonsgonnagetu has a neat way of being the archetypal, perpetual, self-righteous protester. From memory it was he and his ilk who led the protests for new manager and influx of new players, having been warned that new may be, in fact worse. Now he`s rattling his sand bucket again because what he was warned of is coming home to roost. None of us were under the misapprehension that there was a quick fix to our plight. Grow up and take the medication saltonsgonagetu.


I will be fine with myself and the club taking our medicine, as long as the club can survive going down .

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 11:06

I talk about McCann a lot more than others as now I’ve seen over 5 years of the same dross. Who else has performed like him over the last 5 years and not been moved on?

He typifies why we are where we are.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 11:20

McPake moved plenty players on - Todorov, O`Hara, McDonald, Jakubiak, Allan I can think off. McCann is certainly inconsistent but he has contributed to some memorable moments which have been few and far between unfortunately. The constant scapegoating of him is distasteful but not uncommon on here unfortunately.

Certain players are periodically singled out for criticism when there seems to be a more general malaise about the club. Unlike other clubs who have suffered Administration we have been unable to restore our status to anything like it was in our best years. I`m not sure why that is. Maybe it merits a thread of its own.

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: cammypar 1995  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 11:34

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saltonsgonagetu, Sat 15 Mar 10:05

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Paralex, Sat 15 Mar 00:44

Saltonsgonnagetu has a neat way of being the archetypal, perpetual, self-righteous protester. From memory it was he and his ilk who led the protests for new manager and influx of new players, having been warned that new may be, in fact worse. Now he`s rattling his sand bucket again because what he was warned of is coming home to roost. None of us were under the misapprehension that there was a quick fix to our plight. Grow up and take the medication saltonsgonagetu.


I will be fine with myself and the club taking our medicine, as long as the club can survive going down .


Is that not just seeing the wood from the trees. I said on here we were in trouble at the start of the season and after every win I am asked if I am going to retract my statement of us being favourites for the drop.

Everyone could see we were sleepwalking into a relegation dog fight when we were slapped by the most favourable league cup group we could have asked for which also coat the club a few hundred thousand.

We mucked around before eventually sacking mcpake and chucked our eggs in the Tidser basket. We have been rotten all season and somehow managed to look worse under Tidser than we did mcpake.

We can`t keep on hiring terrible manager after terrible manager it doesn`t make good business sense or good football sense.

As far as calling fans out for asking for a new manager when the club was in 9th and no improvement forthcoming with players not good enough for this level was it really a bad shout? The club decided to go with Tidser and sign duds like yaboah and to be honest everyone apart from mullen has been a failure. That`s on the club and scouting system.

What we know now is this lot don`t have the bottle to get themselves out of the playoff places and to be perfectly honest I can`t see any other outcome than us going down as the players lack the ability and belief to survive the playoffs.

c'mon the pars
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 11:44

The German owners` inexplicable decision to freeze the playing budget early in the season was a big contributory factor in the poor start to the season in my opinion. I`m still not clear when this was communicated to McPake. Was it before or after he had committed to signing Kane and Wotherspoon?

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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 11:46

I`m with Da on this one, to pin this all on McCann is nonsense.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: Berkey  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 11:52

I’m not pinning it all on McCann but he’s the best example. If we consistently reward poor performances with new contracts and game time there’s only one way it’s going to go.

Even though the budget was frozen I’d wager it was still pretty healthy compared to others in this league.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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 Re: Wheres the apologists?
Topic Originator: bigdonnie  
Date:   Sat 15 Mar 12:38

even team that got relegated in 2022 could at least score goals this shower cant unless kane is scoring if airdrie beat livvy and accies win i dont give us any hope of staying up need wins and goals

donald mcneil
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