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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 1 Apr 17:18
…..as reported in The Herald. SPFL chiefs looking at returning the top flight to 10 teams. If this happens then I fear a lot of fans will turn their backs on the game. Closed book for the elites and guaranteeing 4 big games a year for the OF and Edinburgh clubs.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Tue 1 Apr 17:24
What date is it today!
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Tue 1 Apr 17:24
April 1st surely
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 1 Apr 17:29
Daily Record version:
"Record Sport understands a number of alternatives are set to be placed back under the microscope - five years after a similar plan collapsed during the Covid lockdown.
A raft of proposals for change will now be debated among clubs including a return to a ten team top flight, remaining with a 12 side division or expanding to either 14 or 16 clubs.
The talks have been triggered after the SPFL’s Competitions Working Group received a request to put reconstruction back on the agenda.
It’s understood they will now schedule a meeting to take place later this month when a number of options will be explored"
last line of the article....
"But a Hampden source told us last night: “I think the bookies would say that the odds of any successful league reconstruction are limited.”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 1 Apr 18:19
Quote:
Parfect69, Tue 1 Apr 17:24
April 1st surely
We can hope 🤞🏻
If there was reconstruction, we should follow the Portugese model - 16 teams, 30 games and a proper winter break (post Xmas - mid Feb). Allows pitches not to become mud baths and the worst of the weather to abate. 2 up, 2 down and a play off between 3rd bottom and 3rd in league below. Scrap the Challenge Cup as well and have 2 leagues below with same model.
It will never happen though……..
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Tue 1 Apr 18:28
Quote:
Dave_1885, Tue 1 Apr 18:19
Quote:
Parfect69, Tue 1 Apr 17:24
April 1st surely
We can hope 🤞🏻
If there was reconstruction, we should follow the Portugese model - 16 teams, 30 games and a proper winter break (post Xmas - mid Feb). Allows pitches not to become mud baths and the worst of the weather to abate. 2 up, 2 down and a play off between 3rd bottom and 3rd in league below. Scrap the Challenge Cup as well and have 2 leagues below with same model.
It will never happen though……..
Indeed, not while Sky have their demands
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 1 Apr 18:36
I wouldn’t say a 10 team league would kill Scottish football but I do think it would be a severe backwards step. Scottish football has been on a high generally for the last couple of years but instead of trying to use growth to create more growth, they’re trying to shut up shop again 🤷🏻♂️ honestly can’t be arsed with it. Fans are going to need to make a statement to the clubs somehow. Organised non-attendances maybe. It really doesn’t actually matter much to the OF but every other club in the league should be dead against it. Every other club in the league is at risk of relegation
COYP
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Tue 1 Apr 18:56
April fool surely.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Tue 1 Apr 19:59
The keague needs to be bigger, more Scottish players playing in higher leagues, stop this top 4 or your in the relegation spots., there has to be a safish mid zone where teams can mature and flourish.
The whole leagues is to be three divisions, all have to remember its not only old firm
Post Edited (Tue 01 Apr 19:59)
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Wed 2 Apr 09:52
My ideal structure would be 3 leagues of 16 playing each other twice, promotion, relegation, play offs, league splits etc etc could be battered out in the negotiating process. This structure ticks the boxes for variety and development of players.
A couple of months back, the Improving Scottish Football twitter page received a lot of media coverage for suggesting the Belgium structure to the SPFL. I can’t remember all the details of it, off the top of my head but I really liked the sound of it. It was really imaginative.
The headline grabber over the past day or 2 has been “10 team top flight”, and I fear this is the narrative that is being pushed by the Old Firm and what is on the table of discussions. This would be the wrong direction to go imho. Yes it gives the ugly sisters less domestic games to play, but it also further alienates the fans from the product they want. People will obviously argue that interest in attending games has never been higher, but we need to grow the game further and I don’t think you do that by playing each other 4 times.
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Topic Originator: RossF
Date: Wed 2 Apr 10:33
Trust them to push for the restructure that not one fan will want. The fans are desperate for 16-18 teams and Doncaster usually replies that this cannot work. For me it’s a no brainer and it will encourage more teams to try out their youth, which is something we are bad at in Scotland.
I’d love to see a bigger top league and bigger Championship with three teams being promoted/relegated, then look at regionalising the lower leagues. That way there would be more derbies in the lower leagues and less travel costs. It will never happen though.
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Wed 2 Apr 10:44
Do they not need an 11 to 12 majority in the Premiership and 75% of teams in the Champ to League 2 to pass it? Highly unlikely it will get the votes.
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Wed 2 Apr 11:06
Something I read yesterday but not sure if April 1st joke.Doncaster stated his preference was 10 team structure ,Why would his preference count ,
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 2 Apr 11:29
"Do they not need an 11 to 12 majority in the Premiership and 75% of teams in the Champ to League 2 to pass it? Highly unlikely it will get the votes."
Correct - can see at LEAST two clubs who don`t fancy the proposed turkey voting for Christmas scenario !!!
Mind you, logic never prevailed in SPL/SPFL/SFA circles.
Would not be good news for several clubs, including DAFC.
Post Edited (Wed 02 Apr 11:30)
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 2 Apr 14:55
Teams like Dundee, St Mirren, Ross County etc will not want to make it even easier to be relegated. Also, going down to 36 games is only 2 less than it is now so it`s not going to help the old firm all that much.
It`s never going to be any more than 12 teams as the money men want 4 old firm games. You could go up to 14 teams, have the split after 2 rounds (26 games) then top and bottom can play each other twice more (12 games) taking it up to 38 games, the same as it is now. Make it 2 instant relegation places and a play off too. Gives more championship teams a chance to reach the SPL, and you still get your 4 old firm games.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 2 Apr 15:14
How about top 18 league, play each other twice and there is a playoff for the Title between the top 2 across 2 legs and the TV get their 4 games and there is all sorts of bother in the playoffs forcing the top 2 being banned. Win win all over.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 2 Apr 15:35
Rangers might go for that but not Celtic when they`re comfortably winning the league by miles every season. Why would they want to risk a play-off?
The Belgium Juliper league looks pretty good. 18 teams from next season. They split into 3 mini leagues of 6. Top group for the title and eufa cup. Middle group plays for the conference league and the bottom group obviously plays to avoid the drop. It would mean only 3 guaranteed old firm teams, but they could have an old firm cup the week before the season starts. They could even make it a 2 leg affair for even more money.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 2 Apr 18:53
The 18 team top tier pre 1975 was a key reason in reconstruction - too may meaningless fixtures towards the end of the season with clubs comfortably able to avoid relegation.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 2 Apr 19:18
Every league has dead rubbers towards the end of the season. The 3 way split would provide less of them. It`s a moot point anyway as the SPL will never go above 12 teams because of pure unadulterated greed.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Wed 2 Apr 20:52
Those meaningless games were the ones where clubs would feel safe playing a few of their young players, something which must have been beneficial to player development.
None of the 20 or so best leagues have a top division of 10 teams. The Danish League has 12 teams and I suppose it could be argued that they are in the top 25 leagues in the world, but the rest have at least 18 and usually more.
Argentina has 30 teams in two sections, and their two biggest clubs are not even in the same section, so they could concievably not play each other all season, despite the fact that theirs is probably the biggest derby in world football.
Pandering to two clubs is unsporting and has been ruining the integrity of Scottish football for decades.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 2 Apr 21:13
That`s the way it is though, it`ll never change. They rule the roost.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Wed 2 Apr 23:12
Will the 40 club tail ever stop trying to wag the two club dog?
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