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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:00
Charlie Gilmour on a 3 year deal
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Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:07
I messaged him just after he got players player at Inverness. Said I would take him at the club.
Long behold he arrives.
Makes sense now hopefully.
Post Edited (Mon 02 Jun 18:17)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:09
^^ whit?
Welcome to the Pars, Charlie!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:14
He’s 6ft 2 and a defensive midfielder so brings much needed physical presence although was integral part of the caley team relegated 2 seasons ago.
I’m sure he’ll do a reasonable job for us, is at a good age and at least it ups the height and physicality of the team. Wonder if he was highlighted by the analytics similar to Bray?
Hopefully the more exciting signings are in the forward areas.
Post Edited (Mon 02 Jun 18:19)
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:14
Quote:
obiwanyouknowme, Mon 2 Jun 18:07
I messaged him the other week saying or take him at the club and telling behind he is here.
^^^^ Did you put this in ChatGTP 🤔
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:16
I like that signing. Looks a tidy bit of business. Already has some first team experience under his belt which is always a bonus at this level. Lennon clearly rates him too, went and watched him live in the flesh which, personally I love that kind of due diligence. Shows we`re not just chucking darts at a list.
Three year deal as well, which is interesting. Clearly see potential there if we’re committing for that long. Hopefully he kicks on with us.
Welcome to the Pars, Charlie. 👏⚫⚪
P.S. Hoodie game strong – good start already! 😄
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:21
A defensive midfielder so gotta trust Lennon on this one.
He was ICT players player of the year so that’s promising. Picked up 10 bookings last season so sounds like he’s in the Lennon mould.
Probably takes Clays place in the squad.
Marquee signing next?
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:26
think this is one they looked at in January but it didnt happen for whatever reason then.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:31
Played with Bray at ICT, so there’s already chemistry there. Could be a real asset with how well they know each other’s positioning.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:50
We do like a 3 year deal these days 😂
Welcome Charlie
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:51
Hopefully playing with Bray is going to help.
Think we have overlooked the partnership connection within the team for a while now.
Fullback + winger - Higgy + Williamson. They knew each others game & where there partner was going to be, what space they are going to run into. It’s invaluable.
I can’t think of one good partnership we have in the current squad.
“.........it ain’t over till the Pars score!”
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Topic Originator: Never10yairds
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:54
Don’t know much about him and won’t pretend to.
Looks decent on his highlight reel. Inverness fans seem to be gutted to have lost him. So those are good signs.
Three year deal makes it kinda high stakes. Got to trust that Lennon knows what he is doing tho.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 2 Jun 18:56
Must admit to not knowing him, however the feedback from Inverness fans on twitter and the comments on P&B seem to suggest he’s got something about him, and obviously he’s another with a good youth background.
Interesting to see what happens, welcome to the club!
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 2 Jun 19:05
Looking at some YouTube clips he is very two footed…..Hits some long passes with both feet.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Mon 2 Jun 19:07
Quote:
Never10yairds, Mon 2 Jun 18:54
Don’t know much about him and won’t pretend to.
Looks decent on his highlight reel. Inverness fans seem to be gutted to have lost him. So those are good signs.
Three year deal makes it kinda high stakes. Got to trust that Lennon knows what he is doing tho.
Yeah, the length of the contract might raise a few eyebrows. Could be a bit of a risk if it doesn’t work out. But I do like the fact Lennon actually went to watch him live, it says a lot. He’s not just going off clips or stats, he’s done his due diligence.
He was a big fan of Clay, and maybe he sees Charlie as a younger, more mobile version. Could be trying to build something for the long term. Only time will tell if it pans out, but I’ve got faith in Lennon.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: obiwanyouknowme
Date: Mon 2 Jun 19:11
This will be a good signing, always looks to keep the game ticking over and has a good youth pedigree which fits our model.
Looking forward to seeing who’s next
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Topic Originator: 13en
Date: Mon 2 Jun 20:32
Happy with this signing, it’s an area we need to strengthen. Assuming that would be the last central midfielder in the door unless one of the contract renewals don’t go as the club plan. Hopefully a couple more signings this week to see the club kick on in time for preseason unlike previous years
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 2 Jun 20:35
Made his debut for Arsenal coming on as a sub replacing Mesut Ozil
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Jun 21:10
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 2 Jun 20:35
Made his debut for Arsenal coming on as a sub replacing Mesut Ozil
Nah he didn`t. It was Matteo Guendouzi.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Mon 2 Jun 21:19
Welcome lad, hope you do well.
Watched the interview on my phone so the video was small. At that distance he looks like a younger Steven Gerrard with a Mr Robot vibe. Defensive midfielder so I`m guessing Wanyama won`t be staying on.
Does this split transfer window apply to us too?
Hopefully a new goalie and striker next.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Mon 2 Jun 21:48
The thing with these contracts is, players will want security, its also not a trend for just us, players need security for their family, being a footballer can be a very stressful time in terms of contracts etc
COYP
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Tue 3 Jun 06:06
Quote:
shellypar, Mon 2 Jun 21:48
The thing with these contracts is, players will want security, its also not a trend for just us, players need security for their family, being a footballer can be a very stressful time in terms of contracts etc
So much for a new era signing quality players. Ross Docherty would have been a statement of intent with premier league experience yet again we opt for league 1 with potential. We’ve had countless of them these last few years.
Hope it works out but failed miserably at St Johnstone when asked to play up.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 3 Jun 06:29
Quote:
Hunter78, Tue 3 Jun 06:06
Quote:
shellypar, Mon 2 Jun 21:48
The thing with these contracts is, players will want security, its also not a trend for just us, players need security for their family, being a footballer can be a very stressful time in terms of contracts etc
So much for a new era signing quality players. Ross Docherty would have been a statement of intent with premier league experience yet again we opt for league 1 with potential. We’ve had countless of them these last few years.
Hope it works out but failed miserably at St Johnstone when asked to play up.
That`s the spirit.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 3 Jun 06:32
Quote:
Hunter78, Tue 3 Jun 06:06
Quote:
shellypar, Mon 2 Jun 21:48
The thing with these contracts is, players will want security, its also not a trend for just us, players need security for their family, being a footballer can be a very stressful time in terms of contracts etc
So much for a new era signing quality players. Ross Docherty would have been a statement of intent with premier league experience yet again we opt for league 1 with potential. We’ve had countless of them these last few years.
Hope it works out but failed miserably at St Johnstone when asked to play up.
Surely, the most important factor is how much potential for improvement a player has, rather than the league he previously played in, Hunter? Some of the very top players often start out with a smaller club in a lower league before being transferred to bigger clubs playing at a higher level.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Tue 3 Jun 06:51
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 3 Jun 06:32
Quote:
Hunter78, Tue 3 Jun 06:06
Quote:
shellypar, Mon 2 Jun 21:48
The thing with these contracts is, players will want security, its also not a trend for just us, players need security for their family, being a footballer can be a very stressful time in terms of contracts etc
So much for a new era signing quality players. Ross Docherty would have been a statement of intent with premier league experience yet again we opt for league 1 with potential. We’ve had countless of them these last few years.
Hope it works out but failed miserably at St Johnstone when asked to play up.
Surely, the most important factor is how much potential for improvement a player has, rather than the league he previously played in, Hunter? Some of the very top players often start out with a smaller club in a lower league before being transferred to bigger clubs playing at a higher level.
Yes he’s done it the other way so that point makes no sense. Having resigned Hamilton as a squad player and now Gilmour it doesn’t leave much space for improvement. Arguably he is a sideways step from Clay.
Read Eric Nicholson online (X) from the Courier, absolutely surprised we’ve made the move to sign him as he felt he was poor at St Johnstone and if our ambitions were to win promotion would be looking at better
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Tue 3 Jun 07:17
Im so glad liverpool decided to ignore salahs past prem experience eh 🤣
COYP
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Tue 3 Jun 07:43
``Read Eric Nicholson online (X) from the Courier, absolutely surprised we’ve made the move to sign him as he felt he was poor at St Johnstone and if our ambitions were to win promotion would be looking at better``
I has been known for young players to improve after 100 games elseswhere and 3 years more experience.
Ross Docherty is what 34 now and spend most of last season in the physio room.
Post Edited (Tue 03 Jun 07:45)
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Topic Originator: Hunter78
Date: Tue 3 Jun 07:51
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Tue 3 Jun 07:43
``Read Eric Nicholson online (X) from the Courier, absolutely surprised we’ve made the move to sign him as he felt he was poor at St Johnstone and if our ambitions were to win promotion would be looking at better``
I has been known for young players to improve after 100 games elseswhere and 3 years more experience.
Ross Docherty is what 34 now and spend most of last season in the physio room.
Dochertys 32 and played 22 times. Players improve after games and some don’t, equally they improve at league 1 level but don’t in championship……ask KRH, McCann, Todd, Chalmers, Memhet.
Lad might do well but hardly a marquee first signing
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 3 Jun 08:13
Quote:
Hunter78, Tue 3 Jun 07:51
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Tue 3 Jun 07:43
``Read Eric Nicholson online (X) from the Courier, absolutely surprised we’ve made the move to sign him as he felt he was poor at St Johnstone and if our ambitions were to win promotion would be looking at better``
I has been known for young players to improve after 100 games elseswhere and 3 years more experience.
Ross Docherty is what 34 now and spend most of last season in the physio room.
Dochertys 32 and played 22 times. Players improve after games and some don’t, equally they improve at league 1 level but don’t in championship……ask KRH, McCann, Todd, Chalmers, Memhet.
Lad might do well but hardly a marquee first signing
Maybe the ugly sisters would be more suited to you?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Gareth Keenan Investigates
Date: Tue 3 Jun 08:18
`Lad might do well but hardly a marquee first signing`
Yeah we should have went for another Dorrans type signing with bags of prem experience.
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Topic Originator: AveragePar
Date: Tue 3 Jun 08:25
Convinced we could sign mbappe and people would find a way for it to upset them
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 3 Jun 08:55
Quote:
AveragePar, Tue 3 Jun 08:25
Convinced we could sign mbappe and people would find a way for it to upset them
Ironically PSG won the Champions League once they got rid of the likes of Mbappe and Messi.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 3 Jun 08:59
Not going to comment on any players that we sign this year. Will put faith in NL and the board to get it right. Mainly, as I wont have seen many of them play much.
However, I do hope we have a good mix of experienced, higher profile players with the odd player from Champ etc.
As long as they come in and do a job, then thats all that matters.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 3 Jun 09:04
Why do we need a `marquee first signing`? Do we hold off signing anyone else until that happens? .net loves a cliche.
There`s also a tendency to define a player by the least successful period in his career as if the possibility of improvement was non-existent. Gilmour was part of ICT`s relegated squad so probably should have been condemned to League 1 for the rest of his career but NL has seen enough of him to give him a 3-year deal. The new owners seem as keen on developing players as the previous ones. Let`s see how he does.
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Topic Originator: Malcolm Canmore
Date: Tue 3 Jun 09:05
Not sure that there will be too many marquee signings. Is the model not to buy players whose potential has not been properly recognised, improve them and sell them on?
My dog eats meat
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 3 Jun 09:18
Quote:
Malcolm Canmore, Tue 3 Jun 09:05
Not sure that there will be too many marquee signings. Is the model not to buy players whose potential has not been properly recognised, improve them and sell them on?
The truth is Malcolm, we don’t know mate, nobody has come out and said what the plan is and we’ve not had long enough to see a pattern to paint a picture on what the plan is. It’s just pure speculation, and I don’t think they can really be judged on what was a desperate throw of the dice in January, when they were only in place for a matter of days before the window shut.
My guess is that we’ll have a balanced squad, within that, we’ll need to retain a number of players we already have, we’ve go out and sign a few “well kent faces” and we’ll bring in a few youngsters and a few “unknowns” to supporters like us.
I posted it above, but I know nothing of this lad but I’m not going to write him off because he had an unsuccessful spell at St.Johnstone back in the day or because he’s not a marquee name. Some of the best players that I have seen play for the club, I’ve never known before they arrived, and some of the worst were (Scottish Football) household names.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 3 Jun 09:23
Can someone tell me what a "marquee signing" is? Is it a player who`s been around a number of clubs and demands a ridiculously high salary and/or signing on fee?
e.g. Kevin Kyle, when he joined Therangers in 2012. He got what he asked for and couldn`t believe his good luck. 😁
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Tue 3 Jun 09:31
One of our best signings in recent years, Kevin Nisbet had started off at Partick in the Premier League and did nothing of note, he bobbed around on loan at East Stirlingshire, Dumbarton and Ayr United without much impact.
He was basically written off as a lazy over-weight dud until the penguin saw something in him and he started banging goals in down at League 1.
Crawford thought he could do it in the championship and the rest was history.
Post Edited (Tue 03 Jun 09:31)
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Topic Originator: alwaysaPar
Date: Tue 3 Jun 09:38
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 3 Jun 09:23
Can someone tell me what a "marquee signing" is?
I think it`s someone who is available for weddings, birthdays and bar mitzvahs........
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 3 Jun 09:41
I think the new owners have stated that they are about development. The best value from any experienced manager and a holistic analytical approach is to identify talented players, with the right attitude who are capable of further development and w
ho can be moulded into a team that you are building.
Of course you need some experience in the team but they need to be able to play at least 3/4 of the season to make a meaningful contribution to any promotion challenge.
New owners throwing lots of money at players is a thing fo muchr bigger clubs. It`s about investment in the right areas, and if youvare investing, youvwill be looking for a return on that investment over time. A two year deal for NL for me is recognition that time is needed to build a more sustainable football model with a solid foundation that is perhaps a few rungs up the ladder from the last few years approach. It takes money but also wise investment.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Tue 3 Jun 10:05
I have a feeling that we`ll see a mix of promising players who have potential to develop into sellable assets and established experienced players. I`m willing to wait and see how this plays out without getting into a state about every move we make. We`re building a squad not a first 11.
I predict without any inside knowledge whatsoever that our next signing will be the other end of the spectrum.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Tue 3 Jun 10:35
Challenge with ‘marquee signings’ is people expect big names, and let’s be blunt, any big names coming to Dunfermline, odds are they are on the decline, coming down to keep playing football, tail end of career, is their motivation still there?
Wanyama we would surely all have classed as a marquee signing.
Re Charlie, evidenced that Lennon has done his homework, admired by ICT and has that desire to play at the top level so motivation cannot be questioned.
There’s definitely argument to have more of that attitude than the other way round.
Agree with above though, think there will be a ‘marquee signing’ soon.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 3 Jun 10:51
I always remember the likes of draper at Ross country to name one of the big solid defensive midfielders who won everything in the air and did well to protect the back 4. He’s an improvement on wanyama and hopefully an improvement on Hamilton so it’s small steps in an area where we were not absolutely murder last season.
The big improvements will hopefully be an attacking area of midfield and the wings and perhaps the full/wing backs.
He’s 26 so not quite sure on the potential side of things, could be a late developer but that’s more rare than youngsters getting those first few seasons under thier belt. Feels more like a solid signing with presence to help us in this league but we’ll need better around him to make the difference in terms of where we want to finish.
Would have expected some announcements on tash and McCann given they are the last 2 we were talking with about staying.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Tue 3 Jun 11:07
Quote:
Berkey, Tue 3 Jun 10:51
Would have expected some announcements on tash and McCann given they are the last 2 we were talking with about staying.
Not the last 2 mate. The announcement also said we had offered contracts, or were in talks with, JCM, Cooper & Wanyama. So possibly 5 players to be updated about.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Tue 3 Jun 11:38
Ah I see buster, worrying about JCM not having committed yet, thought we would be pushing that one hard, that’s as good as a marquee signing for me given his profile.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 3 Jun 12:18
Have we ever been updated on the position re Dapo Mebude? Isn`t the Bulgarian season over yet?
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Topic Originator: Gareth Keenan Investigates
Date: Tue 3 Jun 12:25
Dapo put in some of the worst sub performances since the Titan. Would be astonishing to see him back here in any capacity.
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Topic Originator: bannerpar
Date: Tue 3 Jun 12:42
I was wondering about him too and checked him out yesterday. He was on loan to Septemvri Sofia but hasn`t been getting a game for them or being on their bench. I think his loan ended at the end of last month but he signed a 1 year contract with us last October so he will be available unless the club comes to an arrangement with him.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 3 Jun 12:54
Cheers, bannerpar. The fact that he`s still under contract could explain the silence.
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Topic Originator: RhinoPars
Date: Tue 3 Jun 13:10
While they made an exception for Salah who was 26 at the time, Liverpool’s ex-head of data analysis indicated they had a general rule not to sign anyone over 24. He also indicated most players peak at around 27 and can then plateau and eventually decline (and for how long and how many games a season depends on how well they have looked after themselves and injuries). Younger players therefore have room to improve and maybe can be sold on profitably while the same cannot be said for older players. However when you have a great player who is older and slower/less fit they still may be able to perform such as George Best when he was at Hibs. Will be interesting to see how fit Wanyama can get because latterly there were signs of great skill and ability.
Post Edited (Tue 03 Jun 13:11)
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Topic Originator: LesliePar
Date: Tue 3 Jun 13:18
Quote:
wee eck, Tue 3 Jun 12:54
Cheers, bannerpar. The fact that he`s still under contract could explain the silence.
He`s not under contract, he signed a deal until the end of last season
COYP!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Tue 3 Jun 13:24
This was on COWS -
`On 25th February, Dapo Mebude went out on loan to Bulgarian side Septemvri Sofia for the remainder of the season.
The out of contract 23 year old had been training with Dunfermline for a number of weeks before signing a one year contract on 2nd October 2024.`
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Tue 3 Jun 19:18
Quote:
jake89, Mon 2 Jun 21:10
Quote:
red-star-par, Mon 2 Jun 20:35
Made his debut for Arsenal coming on as a sub replacing Mesut Ozil
Nah he didn`t. It was Matteo Guendouzi.
The debut part is wrong, he replaced Ozil in a later game.
Obviously a very good pedigree. Hopefully Lennon can help him get back to the levels that saw him make these appearances 6 or 7 years ago.
*spelling
Post Edited (Tue 03 Jun 19:21)
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Topic Originator: DunfyDave
Date: Tue 3 Jun 23:38
Quote:
alwaysaPar, Tue 3 Jun 09:38
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 3 Jun 09:23
Can someone tell me what a "marquee signing" is?
I think it`s someone who is available for weddings, birthdays and bar mitzvahs........
^^^^ 😂😂😂
DunfyDave
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Topic Originator: parsmad123
Date: Wed 4 Jun 06:11
Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Tue 3 Jun 13:24
This was on COWS -
`On 25th February, Dapo Mebude went out on loan to Bulgarian side Septemvri Sofia for the remainder of the season.
The out of contract 23 year old had been training with Dunfermline for a number of weeks before signing a one year contract on 2nd October 2024.`
I’m not convinced that means he’s still under contract. I think it’s just poorly worded. I would find it strange that a player would sign a deal that would expire in between two transfer windows. I think his contract would’ve expired at the end of the season but the club didn’t announce it as the Bulgarian season was still ongoing until last week. Would be good to get some official confirmation though.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 4 Jun 09:03
Quote:
parsmad123, Wed 4 Jun 06:11
Topic Originator: wee eck like
Date: Tue 3 Jun 13:24
This was on COWS -
`On 25th February, Dapo Mebude went out on loan to Bulgarian side Septemvri Sofia for the remainder of the season.
The out of contract 23 year old had been training with Dunfermline for a number of weeks before signing a one year contract on 2nd October 2024.`
I’m not convinced that means he’s still under contract. I think it’s just poorly worded. I would find it strange that a player would sign a deal that would expire in between two transfer windows. I think his contract would’ve expired at the end of the season but the club didn’t announce it as the Bulgarian season was still ongoing until last week. Would be good to get some official confirmation though.
I agree it`s poorly worded from the club. I remember the club tried to sign a goalkeeper on an emergency basis, but the deal was blocked because it would have been completed outside the transfer window. So i would assume we wouldn`t be able to have his deal ending in October.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Wed 4 Jun 09:08
fwiw transfermarkt list the contract as expiring 31st May
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