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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 20 Aug 10:35
“Alexander Isak says promises have been "broken" by Newcastle United and "the relationship can`t continue" as he looks to force through an exit this summer.
Nineteen days have passed since Newcastle rejected Liverpool`s £110m bid for the Sweden international, who remains in a stand-off with the club over his future.
BBC Sport understands Isak believed he would be allowed to leave Newcastle if a big club came in for him and offered the right price.
On Tuesday, Isak posted a statement on Instagram to explain why he was not in attendance at the Professional Footballers` Association`s awards gala, where he was named in the Premier League team of the season.
"I`ve kept quiet for a long time while others have spoken," he wrote.
"That silence has allowed people to push their own version of events, even though they know it doesn`t reflect what was really said and agreed behind closed doors.
"The reality is that promises were made and the club has known my position for a long time. To now act as if these issues are only emerging is misleading.
"When promises are broken and trust is lost, the relationship can`t continue. That`s where things are for me right now - and why change is in the best interests of everyone, not just myself."
In a later statement, a "disappointed" Newcastle said: "We are clear in response that Alex remains under contract and that no commitment has ever been made by a club official that Alex can leave Newcastle United this summer.
"We want to keep our best players, but we also understand players have their own wishes and we listen to their views.
"As explained to Alex and his representatives, we must always take into consideration the best interests of Newcastle United, the team and our supporters in all decisions and we have been clear that the conditions of a sale this summer have not transpired. We do not foresee those conditions being met."
Isak has been the biggest talking point of the summer window, which closes on 1 September.
But Liverpool are yet to return with an improved offer for the 25-year-old.
Will the Reds bid again? Will he rejoin first-team training in the meantime? What happens if a deal is not completed by the 1 September deadline day?
BBC Sport has spoken to a number of sources in an attempt to get the latest on these questions and what might happen next”
So Isak has thrown his toys out the pram because “promises” have been broken. I guess he will be able to produce an updated version of the six year contract he was happy to sign in 2022, which details this and a fee that would be acceptable to the club?
Great player that he is, how he and his agent have handled this has been lamentable.
Maybe time to find a new agent and reflect on your behaviour and appreciate how much you have let down a fan base that adored you?
Your thoughts on this, fellow dot netters. I’m
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Wed 20 Aug 10:37)
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Wed 20 Aug 10:42
If he wants away he should submit a written transfer request, which he hasn’t done. Why not - because he would lose out on millions.
He sums up everything that’s rotten about modern football. You can throw Wissa in there as well.
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Topic Originator: Citizen Par
Date: Wed 20 Aug 11:06
Newcastle have just come out and rejected his assertion he was given promises. If he is that desperate then he should hand in a request. Let`s face it he`ll get his money back at Liverpool anyway in the form of a signing on fee and bigger wages.
The way he`s handled this is all wrong and whatever advice his agent is giving him to operate this way is wrong too. I really hope Newcastle stick to their guns and make an example of him. Fed up with these prima donnas who kick a bag of air for a living when there`s millions of us struggling to get by and some in worse environments too.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 20 Aug 11:39
behaving like that to engineer a move i`m not sure why anyone would want to sign him as precendent he has now set on how he will act in 12/18/24 months when Real madrid or similar come sniffing (guess they will see it that he will do the job on the pitch in that period to alert real madrid so would have its benefits)
This whole era of players delting images of them in club kits etc on instagram etc is petty and teenage break-up style behaviour.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Wed 20 Aug 11:48
I’ve a feeling he’ll be sold on the last day of the transfer window but it will be interesting to see how the Saudi’s react. PSR has a huge impact on football now and even clubs with oil £billions can’t spend beyond levels driven by their income. NU needs to buy and can’t really afford to have a player like Isak not involved. Isak has acted terribly throughout, similarly Garnacho at MU. I’d love to see one or both clubs refuse to sell them and make them fulfil their duties under contract. Both have 2 or 3 years left on current agreements. Both players need to play and more especially in a World Cup season. Isak has stuck two fingers up to fans who adored him Imagine him being named as a sub at home and being told to warmup in front of the fans.
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 20 Aug 11:52
You’ve got Wissa doing the same thing as well, he’s apparently deleted all photos of him playing for Brentford and anything associated with Brentford on some of his social media.
Players should consider signing shorter term deals and accept the risk that it brings if they want to be keeping an eye on better options.
Post Edited (Wed 20 Aug 11:54)
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Wed 20 Aug 12:09
Quote:
Berry, Wed 20 Aug 11:52
You’ve got Wissa doing the same thing as well, he’s apparently deleted all photos of him playing for Brentford and anything associated with Brentford on some of his social media.
Players should consider signing shorter term deals and accept the risk that it brings if they want to be keeping an eye on better options.
Tbf isak hasnt deleted any posts
COYP
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 20 Aug 13:26
I hope, both for the good of the game and to set a precedent, that he is made to honour his contract in the same way Newcastle would have had to do if he’d ruptured his cruciate in his first game and never been the same player again.
He thinks he’s got Newcastle by the balls, though the opposite could be true- either you play for the team you signed a lucrative contract with or you don’t play at all- effectively ruining the prime years of his career. Would like to see Newcastle call his bluff on this one.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Wed 20 Aug 13:38
As a Newcastle fan,I`ve been following this since it first came about in July. Isak has totally shafted the club and the fans that adore him. He doesn`t get much sympathy from other Newcastle fans I can tell you that. He has 3 years left on his contract so he should be playing and training, which he isn`t, that`s totally wrong. Eze and Marc Ghiea are in similar positions but continue to train and play while trying to get transfers. Even Wissa isn`t that bad as he`s started training again at least.
I think Isak was told that a move would be considered if certain things happened. Those things were 1 getting a replacement player in and 2 getting proper market value. He has made it clear that he only wants to go to Liverpool so what do Liverpool do? They offer 50 million less than we value him at and they buy Etiketi from under our noses. The club have also been outbid by the cartel clubs for every other big player they`ve tried to get, Pedro and sesko for example. The club are actually needing 2 strikers,one to replace Callum Wilson and they`re struggling with that too. So basically Isak and Newcastle are both shafted. He cant leave because we can`t replace him, and Newcastle are stuck with a player who is adamant he won`t play for us again. The only hope is he changes his mind when the windows shut but he really has burned his bridges.
Newcastle are trying for Wissa but Brentford are in a similar position, they want a replacement first.
Its all a bit of a mess,but Isak Jeezo, what a childish way to do things.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 20 Aug 14:37
Meanwhile Newcastle fans welcomed Anthony Gordon with open arms when he done the same at Everton………and are willing to do the same with Wissa……..pot kettle
Isak will be sold to Al Hilal on the final day of the window for £120m to cover Newcastles PSR rules. 2 years there then be back in Europe outside of the PL.
People keep mentioning his contract he signed over 3 years ago……if the promises he claims were made last summer, then Newcastle are 100% breaking them. If they weren’t, then he’s being nothing more than an ambitious footballer wanting to play at the top tier.
Folk in here acting like they have never wanted to leave a job for more money or a better level 😂
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 20 Aug 14:55
The difference is Dave, we don’t sign a contract in a normal job.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 20 Aug 15:24
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Wed 20 Aug 14:55
The difference is Dave, we don’t sign a contract in a normal job.
Everybody signs a contract…..be that temp, perm, fixed term etc. it just doesn’t stipulate an exact end date in most cases. I can walk away from my job after a week’s notice for something better paid and better suited if I wanted to. If my manager offered me certain promises and didn’t stand by them thats written into it.
Football clubs, and their fans, are fickle when players want to leave for better. Newcastle should have cashed in on him, and haven’t. Meanwhile
Their fans laud the likes of Gordon who done the same to Everton……maybe it’s the clubs and their fans that are in the wrong?
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 20 Aug 18:46
Dave, are you advocating a type of contract whereby the employer has to honour it but the employee doesn’t? Or just some sort of open deal whereby the player can leave at any time for something “ better suited “ and presumably, if the player gets injured or loses form, the club can, similarly, just punt him?
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Wed 20 Aug 19:12
My gut feeling is Amanda Stavely who has since left maybe has been part of any promise or assurance made towards the player.
We have no idea what assurance or promise has been made or at least from his perspective. If he feels wronged which he does, I can see his stance. Although t don’t agree with him downing tools. But don’t get Newcastle fans moaning given the benefited with Gordon and Wissa doing the same for a move to Newcastle.
What players do at one club doesn’t impact on the fan base at another. He will
Be welcomed wherever he goes and starts scoring goals
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 20 Aug 19:15
Should his agent not have ensured that any promises or assurances were written into his contract?
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 20 Aug 19:22
What if the promises were around the recruitment of better players?
Isak might have been told there was a plan in place for Newcastle to challenge for the Premier League and Champions League.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 20 Aug 19:36
Quote:
1985Par, Wed 20 Aug 18:46
Dave, are you advocating a type of contract whereby the employer has to honour it but the employee doesn’t? Or just some sort of open deal whereby the player can leave at any time for something “ better suited “ and presumably, if the player gets injured or loses form, the club can, similarly, just punt him?
I advocate for gentleman’s agreements being upheld, rather than players being held to ransom by clubs for outrageous fees. Theres transfer windows for a reason to stop players just moving any time they wish.
Wee eck - clubs would never write that into contracts, so from his agents side that’s a non starter.
Again - what will Newcastle do on August 31st if he refuses to return? They’ve turned down an eye watering sum already for him…..
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Topic Originator: d3monstrate
Date: Wed 20 Aug 20:02
I dont know the details, but maybe he signed a long contract as a way to bypass the financial rules, much lime Chelsea did with half the playing population, and was maybe promised a move part way through if they weren`t competing at the top? Since it was to exploit a loophole, it wouldn`t be able to be written into a contract...
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Wed 20 Aug 20:34
I think he’s probably had an agreement with the original Saudi team that if certain clubs came calling he could talk to them. I’ve read a couple of reports that the new management group running NU are not as popular with the players as the original team (Amanda Staveley and others)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 20 Aug 20:54
Quote:
WarringtonPar, Wed 20 Aug 20:34
I think he’s probably had an agreement with the original Saudi team that if certain clubs came calling he could talk to them. I’ve read a couple of reports that the new management group running NU are not as popular with the players as the original team (Amanda Staveley and others)
The original group managed to get the likes of Isak and Tonali to go to Tyneside, meanwhile this current crop cant attract anyone - says it all.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 20 Aug 22:59
Let him rot in the reserves, the wee mercenary. Don`t sign a ludicrous 6yr contract
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