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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Fri 22 Aug 21:41
Young boys will learn
Cáceres …. YES …. will be a class act
John Tod continues to learn and arguably looks like a main stay
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Fri 22 Aug 21:46
Tod at least looks consistent which is a lot better than mullan.
Jefferson has pace and movement, something we haven’t had upfront for years.
Amade looks a player, will be a starter soon, otoo getting a game on reputation and boothe looks like this is not a league that suits him.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 22 Aug 21:47
Cacares looks handy but needs a team around him too.
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Topic Originator: sjapar
Date: Fri 22 Aug 21:48
Learning curve . It’s not like we are a newly promoted side . No time for learning curves we simply have to be better than that tonight . It’s embarrsing that first half performance . Lennon with a baffling starting line up too . Oakley booth should be no where near the team , Conner young simply not good enough , Gk beat at near post , the list goes on , these boys are payed good money and are best league 1 level .
Sja
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Fri 22 Aug 21:49
Tod had a number of long passes in the first half that didn’t make the mark. Second half he stopped that and did better. Excited about this boy.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Fri 22 Aug 21:55
Seen enough that second half to be positive for the future.
We have some good players but not a good team yet. We lack experience but I`m confident it will come eventually.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Fri 22 Aug 21:59
We will be top 4
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:02
Too many passengers tonight ,loosing the early goal gave them believe ,and looked like they wanted it more .evwn the keeper had a nightmare lets start again next week early days in the league ,but always hard to be done over by your rivals
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:04
Quote:
coventrypar, Fri 22 Aug 21:59
We will be top 4
Not sure what you`re basing that on, but without at least 2 signings we`re not close to challenging the playoffs.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:05
As it stands we’ll need Kane to stay fit to get anywhere near top 4 and at least 1 experienced CB.
Good news is we’re still removing the under performers from last season so we’ll look much better once Kearney and amade come in and Fraser looks like he’ll be good.
Otoo is turning 23 soon, feels like he stopped learning a few years ago, not all these youngsters will be able to take us further. It’s worrying how easy some are bullied out there.
Hopefully 1-2 new experienced players in this week.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Perkins
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:06
It`s the manager who`s on the steepest learning curve.
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:11
The first goal deflated me never mind the team , Raith definately wanted the win more than us , we played too many high balls at times which played right into Raith`s hands Munn should have got the second goal but hey ho at 1-0 your still beat ,sometime`s you have to be man enough to admit we didn`t do enough to deserve anything from the game , and I still think Stevenson should have got the red card not a yellow , early days but we do need some more experienced players in the door
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:14
Amade and Kearney need to be regular starters. KRH spent the whole game hiding from the ball and TOB just doesn’t fancy a scrap atall, big games completely pass him by. Caceres in place of Tod/cooper, Kearney for KRH and amade for Oakley boothe we will be a completely different team.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:14
Poor goal in the first 5 minutes down to a lack of concentration. Without an experienced striker on the park that equals a hill to climb. It`s a young team and it showed. A few lessons to learn tonight but a long season ahead
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:16
Bene is limited so could do with a better CH.
Chicko Mullen is showing his young age on occasion as is J Tod but they will be fine. Fraser did fine. Amade over Oakley please.
Keeper showed his lack of experience - that will come (Deniz dropped from squad tonight)
Connor Young .. too young
Fraser was ok
Paddy Caseres…. Baller
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:18
Tashan and KRH must be one of the two that "train really well" during the week, because how they start over Amade and Kearney is anyone`s fking guess. Amade is twice the player Tash is.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:29
We need a centre half and a striker badly. Kane should have been on 5 mins before the goal when we were on the up.
John Tod and Mullen showed their inexperience tonight. Far too often they gave the ball away with their passing. Mullen was struggling to make 3 yard passes in the first half.
Amade and Kearney HAVE to be starters from now on. Lennon got those two wrong tonight.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:32
Who ever said we’ll be top 4 surely has to be in the wind up. We are a couple additions short and a whole team that need to gel and learn to communicate.
Mid table at best.
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Topic Originator: PARadise
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:34
Otoo and Tash were absolutely pathetic tonight
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:51
Add Hosler to that list PARadise.
We looked better when Kearney and Amade came on.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:52
Amade must be wondering what he has to do to get a start. He looks head and shoulders above Otoo and TOB.
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Fri 22 Aug 22:56
Think we got slammed right back into reality, rovers were miles better. Otoo tash Hosler and young all needing dropped. Bene looks very shaky when pressed like tonight
Effe
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 23 Aug 00:02
Rare to see a support so united over a clear conclusion that Kearney and Amade should be clear picks ahead of ToB and KRH. Otoo isn`t the answer either.
Only plus points from the starting 11 were Gilmour & Tod. Bene and Fraser were alright. The rest looked off it.
I`m mainly just gutted, atmosphere was phenomenal before the match. What a let down.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Sat 23 Aug 00:11
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Sat 23 Aug 00:02
Rare to see a support so united over a clear conclusion that Kearney and Amade should be clear picks ahead of ToB and KRH. Otoo isn`t the answer either.
Only plus points from the starting 11 were Gilmour & Tod. Bene and Fraser were alright. The rest looked off it.
I`m mainly just gutted, atmosphere was phenomenal before the match. What a let down.
Fraser was shocking first half , same as KRH , constantly passing backwards and putting other players into trouble , second half improved lots, by getting on the front foot, a playing forwards ,this is the way ,wing backs must play.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sat 23 Aug 00:15
Always in the wrong place when the ball comes down for a header, when we do connect it goes ip not forward. We were naive when challenged for balls in the air. Cant control ball when passed to us lose it or its a panic. Raith were brutal, should have had a red and many booked for mouthing off at ref including manager. sadly not yet good enough and 2 or 3 will never be good enough. 2 silly goals made us look even worse.
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Sat 23 Aug 01:35
Quote:
coventrypar, Fri 22 Aug 21:59
We will be top 4
Explain as what i see is bottom half of the table so far
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Sat 23 Aug 01:39
Quote:
Toddyrov, Fri 22 Aug 22:56
Think we got slammed right back into reality, rovers were miles better. Otoo tash Hosler and young all needing dropped. Bene looks very shaky when pressed like tonight
someone talking sense 👍🏻
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Topic Originator: Parsfangaz
Date: Sat 23 Aug 01:40
Quote:
Rusty Shackleford, Sat 23 Aug 00:02
Rare to see a support so united over a clear conclusion that Kearney and Amade should be clear picks ahead of ToB and KRH. Otoo isn`t the answer either.
Only plus points from the starting 11 were Gilmour & Tod. Bene and Fraser were alright. The rest looked off it.
I`m mainly just gutted, atmosphere was phenomenal before the match. What a let down.
Tod was murder first half
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sat 23 Aug 08:55
Not only the challenge on A Tod that should have been red but McMullan got away with a clear elbow in the face against Gilmour ?
How Easton never got booked for a couple of fouls and constant mouthing is anyones guess.
I disagree with those who say Rovers were miles better that us, they weren’t really. We gave them both goals. They are definitely more street wise though and that was our undoing. We have to wise up and soon or it could be another season scrapping around the lower end of the table again.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 23 Aug 09:33
The first goal came from being caught in possession - the second from the attacker getting the freedom of the penalty area to get a one touch shot on target direct from a throw in.
Self inflicted - could have been worse. McMullan’s miss for example.
Kane was more of a threat up front during his short time on the pitch than the other forwards combined.
I doubt Young is second tier quality, hopefully proved wrong.
On the positive side, Fisher appears to be sound.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 23 Aug 09:35
Quote:
Perkins, Fri 22 Aug 22:06
It`s the manager who`s on the steepest learning curve.
Aye no doubt 🤪
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Sat 23 Aug 09:37
Quote:
desparado, Sat 23 Aug 08:55
Not only the challenge on A Tod that should have been red but McMullan got away with a clear elbow in the face against Gilmour ?
How Easton never got booked for a couple of fouls and constant mouthing is anyones guess.
I disagree with those who say Rovers were miles better that us, they weren’t really. We gave them both goals. They are definitely more street wise though and that was our undoing. We have to wise up and soon or it could be another season scrapping around the lower end of the table again.
I actually agree, I felt we controlled the ball better. 2 mistakes cost us 2 goals and our usual problems up front were still glaring 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 23 Aug 09:48
I thought we lacked grit and edge. Raith were more up for it than us. They put us on the back foot for the whole first half. We need to learn to impose ourselves on the game and dominate teams. Skilful players are part of the solution.The young players had a lesson in the other attributes you need to have in this league. There will be a steep learning curve but that`s the reality. It`s one loss, albeit a derby, but it is important to learn from it very quickly. We will have times in this league where you just have to dig in and adapt where we cant play pretty football. All part of what it takes to get into the promotion mix.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 23 Aug 09:49
A team with too many youngsters against a team full of experienced and streetwise players, what did we really expect ?
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Topic Originator: Toddyrov
Date: Sat 23 Aug 09:57
They scored early, kept us out the game and eventually made it 2-0. Up until 2-0 they still the better chances… the only real opportunity we had was at 2-0 down from jcm header. They completely controlled us from start to finish
Post Edited (Sat 23 Aug 10:00)
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:07
I wouldn’t judge any team on that pitch. It’s a disgrace that top flight football is allowed to be played on that surface.
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:09
If we’re gonna persist on playing long balls to the striker we might want to think about bringing someone in who can challenge and hold the ball up.
Docherty, Fordyce and Hanlon had an evening of heading practice unchallenged all night.
As for our defence how many long balls over the top allowed Raith in, McMullen should have scored his opportunity.
Munn taking out Bene and Fraser, players letting the ball bounce and leaving it to each other while Raith moved up almost every second ball last night was a joke.
Post Edited (Sat 23 Aug 10:09)
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:12
Don`t have enough experience in the team to know how to get through a tough derby game like that, I`m sure they`ll learn and it hasn`t really changed how I view the team. Especially in that Lennon is starting the wrong players at the moment.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:20
I still think Bene is our weakest link. So slow, and it exposes badly to the ball over the top...especially since Tod and Jcm have a licence to push forward.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:25
I think what we lacked was controlled aggression.not physical but mental aggression to drive forward , create space and opportunities. Too negative and pushed it wide with no real movement along the front line. You do the hard work to get forward then push it wide and lose it. It`s a bit like hitting the green in one and three putting. When you are in forward positions you have to do something with the ball to make the defenders work
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: rsmith
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:29
Quote:
WarringtonPar, Sat 23 Aug 10:07
I wouldn’t judge any team on that pitch. It’s a disgrace that top flight football is allowed to be played on that surface.
Not only this but the opponents half gets watered heavily before the game and at HT. Not sure how they are getting away with that
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:32
Bene did okay…….
He’s not a flash player it’s all the basics but he did them well, solid.
The defence & Dunn need to sort out who’s coming for what - that was a shambles more than once.
‘Hello my name is Jefferson - I’m happy to be here let’s go!’
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:39
Quote:
rsmith, Sat 23 Aug 10:29
Quote:
WarringtonPar, Sat 23 Aug 10:07
I wouldn’t judge any team on that pitch. It’s a disgrace that top flight football is allowed to be played on that surface.
Not only this but the opponents half gets watered heavily before the game and at HT. Not sure how they are getting away with that
That pitch is a monstrosity. You could see players catching their feet and slipping constantly. As for watering...it`s not exactly a surprise that the Rovers are dodgy.
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Topic Originator: coventrypar
Date: Sat 23 Aug 10:42
Parsfangaz … “explain”
Last night will prove to be the best lesson … very early in the season … we will learn from that during next weeks debrief.
Watch this space.
Let’s reread this come season end.
"If you have no kind words to say you should say nothing more at all"
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 23 Aug 11:02
Quote:
Angus_W, Sat 23 Aug 10:32
Bene did okay…….
He’s not a flash player it’s all the basics but he did them well, solid.
The defence & Dunn need to sort out who’s coming for what - that was a shambles more than once.
Bene meant to be marshalling two young defenders through the game and was caught out by every ball over the top and lost half his 50/50s with McMullan and Easton
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 23 Aug 11:03
Bene certainly did not do well last night at all. Agree with Dave, I thought he was terrible.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 23 Aug 11:11
Caceres has a football brain. With game time he will do well for us. He has the skill in tight areas to do something with the ball
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 23 Aug 12:14
Can’t believe bene is getting pelters based on performance last night when mullan was rank rotten, cant even do the basics just now, the lad is struggling big time and could be found at fault for both goals although the keeper didn’t help for the 2nd.
Agree on learning curve for Lennon, I would have expected him to have learned a lot about the players from still here from last season but he’s still playing them and even gave a contact to boothe which makes me question if he even knows this league.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 23 Aug 12:18
Fully agree Mullen was terrible last night too.
I only referred to Bene as folk are claiming he played well.
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 23 Aug 12:51
"Not sure what you`re basing that on, but without at least 2 signings we`re not close to challenging the playoffs"
at least 2 might keep us out of the relegation playoffs, this squad is miles away from top 4.
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Sat 23 Aug 12:55
I see the .net football manager club has started again I wouldn’t trust you lot to run a bath never mind pick a team
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Topic Originator: KnebworthPar
Date: Sat 23 Aug 13:14
Next team selection will be interesting. Largely he’s stuck with those that finished last season, and to be fair we’ve had two decent results prior to last night. KRH and TOB I would change for Kearney/Bray and Amad. A Tod for Caceres although Lennon may feel Tod deserves another chance. If Kane fit enough then Young drops to the bench too.
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