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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 30 Aug 17:32
By today`s referee.😱 🙄
It`s been a long time since I witnessed such an inept and clueless showing from the man with the whistle, in stark contrast to our boys who performed so well for 80 mins.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: General Zod
Date: Sat 30 Aug 17:34
That was easily one of the worst I’ve ever seen. Some truly baffling decisions.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 30 Aug 17:36
Unfortunately refereeing is just incredibly poor at the moment, we saw it last Friday with the clown who didn`t send Stevenson off and we saw another display of inconsistency today
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sat 30 Aug 17:37
In all my years and years supporting
the Pars, I have never seen such
terrible ref. He was absolutely
Clueless. He dented us 2 glaring
penalties. Pure A- Hole
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 30 Aug 17:45
Scottish refs have been declining for years, and are at their worst now I think Ive seen. There’s a reason no Scots are called up to big tournaments and only Beaton refs in Europe now.
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Topic Originator: bigdonnie
Date: Sat 30 Aug 17:52
nick walsh is useless better with bradley walsh poor referees now
donald mcneil
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Sat 30 Aug 18:02
Worse than the fandan last Friday?
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sat 30 Aug 18:02
As soon as I saw Walsh, was the referee in legends I knew we would get nothing. We never do when that erse is in charge.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 30 Aug 19:46
The refs. we get at East End Park try so hard not to be swayed by the crowd that they deliberately verge towards the opposition. That definitely seemed to be the case today. And add to that a measure of incompetence and we get a very bad deal.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Sat 30 Aug 20:46
It`s not just Scotland! Some utterly brutal refereeing (guess what, in favour of big clubs) in England today.
Chelsea get given 2 incredibly generous goal deciding calls, and Burnley have a goal disallowed at Old Trafford where the graphic seems to show he was onside.
Compounded by a very soft penalty to Man Utd right at the death.
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sat 30 Aug 21:49
Nick Walsh is one of them referees that thinks he rules the planet immediately when he gets on a football field. A sufferer of small man syndrome that’s for sure.
Putting his poor performance down to the fact he’s probably raging about not getting the Old Firm game tmrw.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sat 30 Aug 22:38
Had an atrocious game. The worst I`ve seen in a very long time.
Charlie Gilmour deserves some special credit for playing so long and avoiding a second yellow from the buffoon.
Why can`t creeping up the park at throw ins be stopped? The position the ball goes out of play seems clear and it would take really minimal effort to stamp out.
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Sun 31 Aug 01:18
Quote:
Jeffery, Sat 30 Aug 22:38
Why can`t creeping up the park at throw ins be stopped? The position the ball goes out of play seems clear and it would take really minimal effort to stamp out.
Just give the linesman a spray-can to mark where the throw-in is to be taken from. In the half where there is no linesman the referee should mark the spot. Failure to take the throw-in from the marked spot to be a foul throw.
TBH this would mean fewer quick throw-ins, so might slow the game down a bit, but it would stop behaviour such as that of Ross County today.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 31 Aug 06:16
The two linesmen yesterday were a complete waste of a jersey. There were two decisions that happened right in front of them, and they made no call until the referee did, only then did they raise their flags. If that’s the case, they should be removed, as they serve no purpose.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 31 Aug 07:06
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 31 Aug 06:16
The two linesmen yesterday were a complete waste of a jersey. There were two decisions that happened right in front of them, and they made no call until the referee did, only then did they raise their flags. If that’s the case, they should be removed, as they serve no purpose.
I know for a fact that some refs instruct their assistants to limit themselves to raising their flags only for throw ins and offside. I have a friend who has run the line in both the Championship and Premiership. It wouldn`t surprise me if Walsh came into that category.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Sun 31 Aug 07:52
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 31 Aug 07:06
Quote:
cammypar 1995, Sun 31 Aug 06:16
The two linesmen yesterday were a complete waste of a jersey. There were two decisions that happened right in front of them, and they made no call until the referee did, only then did they raise their flags. If that’s the case, they should be removed, as they serve no purpose.
I know for a fact that some refs instruct their assistants to limit themselves to raising their flags only for throw ins and offside. I have a friend who has run the line in both the Championship and Premiership. It wouldn`t surprise me if Walsh came into that category.
But even for throw ins, he waited for the referee to give the decision before signaling. A total waste of a wage.
c'mon the pars
Post Edited (Sun 31 Aug 07:53)
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Topic Originator: fcda
Date: Sun 31 Aug 09:21
Might have been talking over their headsets to agree on a decision, when they`re not 100% sure.
Post Edited (Sun 31 Aug 09:22)
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sun 31 Aug 09:33
The handball shout was a scandalous decision. Blatant penalty, right infront of him.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 1 Sep 13:53
"The two linesmen yesterday were a complete waste of a jersey. There were two decisions that happened right in front of them, and they made no call until the referee did, only then did they raise their flags. If that’s the case, they should be removed, as they serve no purpose."
In "modern" times when officials are using comms the flag is pretty much "decorative" only. The decisions are made and signalled by referee largely before a flag signal is made.
Ball played forward... attacker in offside position... AR "waiting/waiting/waiting" as soon as he touches the ball the whistle goes as he is then active and flag will go up. Decision is made and officials aligned before signal is made to the crowd. Similarly free kicks etc close to officials. "push in the back" ref will wait few seconds to see if there is any advantage or attack building and if nothing its brough back, assistant referee unlikley to flag.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRi0DI6Eo0dzHo7aEPPKuAViDn2uBQ4pz will give good insight on how the commuications go obviously without the additional VAR officials at this level.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Tue 23 Sep 22:55
Bumping it to the top again, after tonight`s performance!
Are there any decent refs in this league?
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Tue 23 Sep 23:09
you mean in the country cause there is no such thing as "in this league", tonights referee who also sent Wotherspoon off at Morton last season for 2 quick yellows has done top flight games over the last 18 months.
and the guy thats meant to do Saturday`s game is worse
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Topic Originator: D.A. Eff Ceee
Date: Wed 24 Sep 00:12
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Tue 23 Sep 22:55
Bumping it to the top again, after tonight`s performance!
Are there any decent refs in this league?
Refs will always be poor in Scotland until we employ full time refs like England.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 24 Sep 00:14
Aye, there`s never any debates about poor refereeing decisions in England!
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Wed 24 Sep 01:12
I`m trying to think of the appropriate word to describe tonight`s referee. Perverse and Obtuse come to mind. One of those refs who get themselves in a hole and just keep digging. We were up against it before he sent Mullen off. But that just sealed the deal. Maybe he has a personality trait that enjoys winding up the home fans, or maybe he just has an arrogant, exhibitionist streak that reckons he`s the most important person on show. Either way he made himself the major talking point, booked 7? and sent 2 off. Hopefully someone will take a close look at his performance and relegated him to refereeing water polo. He`d probably get the horses drowned.(old joke). Never felt so indignant about a refereeing performance for ages. They should arrest him and get him to fund a course of therapy for 4,000 Dunfermline fans. That`s it I`m finished, I`m away to my bed.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Wed 24 Sep 08:57
Awful refereeing. Some managers seem to tell their players to take full advantage of the moment by surrounding the ref with ott reactions. If they are in front they will waste time, from the goalie who, yesterday blatantly ignored the refs instructions, to throw ins not to mention stealing yards. This constant behavior seems to wear refs down who pretend they are going to add extra minutes rather than take decisive action.
I actually thought the ref started ok by playing on early in the first half when he allowed us to have a break forward rather than blow for a foul. But that didnt last long.
Not way was that a sending off. I doubt if the ref even it because of the Ayr player s who were in way.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 24 Sep 09:07
I thought the new FIFA laws meant only captains could talk to the ref? Why are all these extra players not being booked for it? He only booked one of them for dissent all game……
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Wed 24 Sep 09:35
Referees generally aren`t enforcing any cards when players surround them, which baffles me. If that`s the way it is, then our players need to wise up and start getting in their face to draw cards on the other team.
I felt in the derby if the players had surrounded the ref after the Stevenson elbow he would`ve seen red. I don`t agree with doing it that way, but unfortunately it`s part of the game now. For years we`ve seen Brian Graham, Dylan Easton etc constantly muttering away with the referee generally without consequence.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 24 Sep 12:47
He was bullied from the start by Ayr`s number 2 & 15, when Terrel went down when hit in the face they were all over him like a rash.
No action by the ref and so it continued, the Scott Brown rulebook on the dark arts!
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 24 Sep 13:06
Was that when the referee stopped play and restarted with a drop ball to Ayr in the first half ?
I reckon they had a case for complaint - there was no foul and the ball went to an Ayr player in an advantageous position to continue.
Had it been a Pars outfield player that went down I suspect play would have been allowed to proceed ?
Post Edited (Wed 24 Sep 13:07)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Wed 24 Sep 13:13
Was the game not stopped for a "head injury"?
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 24 Sep 13:23
Quote:
Paralex, Wed 24 Sep 01:12
I`m trying to think of the appropriate word to describe tonight`s referee. Perverse and Obtuse come to mind. One of those refs who get themselves in a hole and just keep digging. We were up against it before he sent Mullen off. But that just sealed the deal. Maybe he has a personality trait that enjoys winding up the home fans, or maybe he just has an arrogant, exhibitionist streak that reckons he`s the most important person on show. Either way he made himself the major talking point, booked 7? and sent 2 off. Hopefully someone will take a close look at his performance and relegated him to refereeing water polo. He`d probably get the horses drowned.(old joke). Never felt so indignant about a refereeing performance for ages. They should arrest him and get him to fund a course of therapy for 4,000 Dunfermline fans. That`s it I`m finished, I`m away to my bed.
Imagine if it was two dirty teams. Game abandoned methinks.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 24 Sep 14:07
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Wed 24 Sep 13:13
Was the game not stopped for a "head injury"?
Thats what I thought, sure ball hit his face before going out.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 24 Sep 14:21
I don`t know what the answer is to poor refereeing. We were told VAR would improve things but now there seems to be as much controversy as ever over questionable decisions. The availability of multiple replays, whether in actual time or slow motion or from various angles, doesn`t seem to help because ultimately the final decision is subjective. Is there any chance that football matches could be refereed by AI?
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Wed 24 Sep 15:23
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 24 Sept 14:21
I don`t know what the answer is to poor refereeing. We were told VAR would improve things but now there seems to be as much controversy as ever over questionable decisions. The availability of multiple replays, whether in actual time or slow motion or from various angles, doesn`t seem to help because ultimately the final decision is subjective. Is there any chance that football matches could be refereed by AI?
The play acting by the Ayr player to get JCM sent off is disgusting. He goes down `normally`, then realising it`s JCM has a delayed reaction pretending he was caught shin high.
The lino and the ref fell for it.
I reckon he should be done for simulation.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 24 Sep 15:37
not sure many would complain on friday at "injustice" if tods free kick nestled in the top corner when the St Johnstone captain was booked for a "foul" on Mullen when he clearly won the ball with an excellent tackle. Even with VAR last nights decison couldnt/wouldnt be reviewed as it was a 2nd yellow card.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 24 Sep 15:45
Surely you`re not arguing that two wrongs make a right? You`ll be telling us next that bad decisions balance out over a season.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 24 Sep 15:46
Quote:
Dave_1885, Wed 24 Sep 14:07
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Wed 24 Sep 13:13
Was the game not stopped for a "head injury"?
Thats what I thought, sure ball hit his face before going out.
It didn’t go out of play - that’s why the Ayr players protested at the stoppage.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 24 Sep 15:51
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 24 Sep 15:37
not sure many would complain on friday at "injustice" if tods free kick nestled in the top corner when the St Johnstone captain was booked for a "foul" on Mullen when he clearly won the ball with an excellent tackle. Even with VAR last nights decison couldnt/wouldnt be reviewed as it was a 2nd yellow card.
This the same captain that tried to win a penalty by diving and avoided a booking and also avoided a card for leaving something on Caceres with a late challenge? 🤔
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Topic Originator: cammypar 1995
Date: Wed 24 Sep 15:54
Fifa rules are also any player asking for an opponent to be booked will receive a yellow card.
c'mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 24 Sep 17:01
"Fifa rules are also any player asking for an opponent to be booked will receive a yellow card"
IFAB and Laws of the game but yeah close enough .)
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