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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Sun 14 Sep 11:36
Good goals and a very good performance. Bit worried about Munn though. He must have came for about four or five crosses and missed them all.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 14 Sep 12:43
The second goal was a thing of beauty but they were all well-worked moves.
I`m not convinced Tod was offside in the build-up to the third goal. The AR putting his flag up and then putting it down was probably an acknowledgement of a mistake on his part.
Rudden fairly enjoyed his goal. Judging by his reaction he must have been getting a bit of stick from somebody behind the goals.
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Topic Originator: brian
Date: Sun 14 Sep 16:51
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 14 Sep 17:13
I really like how Lennon comes across.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sun 14 Sep 21:12
"I`m not convinced Tod was offside in the build-up to the third goal. The AR putting his flag up and then putting it down was probably an acknowledgement of a mistake on his part"
He was well off. Not sure how to add a pic but I got a screen grab as Rudden flicked it through and there was daylight between Tod and the defender. Not even close and probably an easy one for the linesman to flag. The ref would have instructed him to put it down because in his opinion Tod wasn`t interfering with play as the ball eventually found it`s way through to Fraser on the left wing.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 14 Sep 22:38
I don`t think it was quite as clear-cut as you are suggesting but, if it was, surely the ref could have disallowed the goal even if he had initially overruled the AR, having seen the move result in Tod scoring?
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Topic Originator: Socks
Date: Mon 15 Sep 01:14
No. The fact that the player who scored was the one who was initially in the offside position is completely irrelevant. Once it went wide and the decision was to play on, the judgement was that the first player did not interfere with play or interfere with an opponent at that time and therefore cannot be penalised for that. He would only be given offside if he was offside again when the ball came in from the wide position when he scored.
Tod is clearly in an offside position when the ball is played. On seeing it again, I don`t fault the linesman for giving it intially, and I also don`t fault the ref for calling play on. It`s a marginal call, but I think it`s correct. He doesn`t play the ball so the relevant part is whether he interferes with an opponent by `clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent`. Words quoted are from Law 11. You could argue that both ways but I would say that he does not.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 15 Sep 10:28
Good to know the goal was legitimate. I must admit I find it difficult to keep up with all these re-interpretations of the Laws. I thought Tod would have been considered to be gaining an advantage if he was ahead of the last defender which must have given him a better chance of reaching Fraser`s cross first. I can understand why, when VAR is operating, ARs are told to keep their flag down until a move ends.
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Mon 15 Sep 15:11
Obviously all of us really, really old fans that saw his dad play will have a special place in our hearts for Andrew Tod.
Not only is he a great player that gives everything on the park, but he comes across really well. He`s just a kid. He must have been bursting with pride to score his first senior hat trick, but he was smart, professional, humble, articulate and also sneakily writing tabloid headlines (5 goals, 5 star performance).
His performances are already writing the headlines for him.
I hope he goes on to have a long, happy, successful career in football and that a decent proportion of it is with us.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Mon 15 Sep 15:18
Quote:
Socks, Mon 15 Sep 01:14
No. The fact that the player who scored was the one who was initially in the offside position is completely irrelevant. Once it went wide and the decision was to play on, the judgement was that the first player did not interfere with play or interfere with an opponent at that time and therefore cannot be penalised for that. He would only be given offside if he was offside again when the ball came in from the wide position when he scored.
Tod is clearly in an offside position when the ball is played. On seeing it again, I don`t fault the linesman for giving it intially, and I also don`t fault the ref for calling play on. It`s a marginal call, but I think it`s correct. He doesn`t play the ball so the relevant part is whether he interferes with an opponent by `clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent`. Words quoted are from Law 11. You could argue that both ways but I would say that he does not.
Cheers for that Socks. I had the same question on how that works so thanks for clearing that up.
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