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Topic Originator: parak obama
Date: Sat 13 Dec 14:26
QUEEN’S PARK: Calum Ferrie: Carlo Pignatiello, Euan Murray (c), Matthew Shiels, Henry Fieldson: Louis Longridge, Roddy Macgregor: Aidan Connolly, Grant Savoury, Tyrece McDonnell: Josh Fowler
SUBS: Rocco Friel, Darryl Carrick, Aiden McGinlay, Ross McLean, Timam Scott, Josiah Sowa, Ricky Waugh, Seb Drozd, Milosz Sliwinski (GK)
DUNFERMLINE: Billy Terrell: Chris Hamilton (c), Jeremiah Chilokoa-Mullen, Nurudeen Abdulai, Robbie Fraser: Matty Todd, Alfons Amade, Charlie Gilmour, Keith Bray: Barney Stewart, Andrew Tod
SUBS: Kyle Benedictus, Ewan Otoo, Zak Rudden, Jefferson Cáceres, Rory Macleod, Chris Kane, Tashan Oakley-Boothe, Josh Cooper, Deniz Mehmet (GK)
REFEREE: Iain Sneddon
[IMG]https://share2.co.uk/f/1152_471_P300411_16.49_[02].jpg[/IMG]
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 13 Dec 14:36
No John Tod and Barney replaces Kane. Rudden back in the squad.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 13 Dec 14:39
Weather closing in, here in Glasgow. Horizontal rain, strong wind.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 13 Dec 14:40
Will we play 4-3-3 with Hamilton holding or will he be part of a back 3/5? 🤔 interesting either way!
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 13 Dec 14:42
Good to see Charlie Gilmour back. Weather may make it a lottery though.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 14:42
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 13 Dec 14:40
Will we play 4-3-3 with Hamilton holding or will he be part of a back 3/5? 🤔 interesting either way!
Right side of a back 3, I would suggest.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Sat 13 Dec 14:43
Will be Hamilton at CB alongside Mullen & Abdulai I think. Lenny has said before that they can`t really play a back 4 without Kearney
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 13 Dec 14:46
Zac Rudden one of the subs!! Good to see his name on the team sheet again.
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:17
Wee team 2 up against Ross County.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:27
Thats 25 minutes of my life I won’t see again
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:27
Yip they are now on same points as us , only our goal tally is better , this is another game where the pars need to get a win and get into top 4 !
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:33
Look clueless again today. The lack of experience is very telling.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:35
Chick saying the weather isn’t helping either team today.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Kozmano1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:37
This is awful - hardly strung a pass together
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:38
Ive no idea where the creativity has gone in this team. We`re creating nothing and look short of any class in recent weeks. It`s like We`re trying not to concede than take the game to teams. So many passes going straight to Queens.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:39
Rovers 3-0
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:40
F goal for Queens Park
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Clapham Par
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:40
Well that`s unsurprising. We`ve been absolutely brutal.
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:40
Same as last week, players look like they`ve just met.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:40
I think for a few of them they are looking jaded and quite a few out of form. Both the Tod’s and Macleod in particular but it’s thier first full season at anywhere like this level.
Caceres looks like he’s struggling to make any impact these days and suddenly we’ve a lack of attacking creativity again.
And as I speak queens score.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:41
Mullen is the only one peed off with that goal, rest just sulk back to halfway line. School boy stuff once again.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:41
That goal was coming. We look second to everything at the moment.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:41
That was my thought too
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:43
One shot at goal in 45 minutes won`t win you anything
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:46
We’ve been second best for most of the half. It was far too easy to get in behind for that goal.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:47
Need Bray off, get Cooper on. Tod looks like he needs a break, not been at it for weeks.
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:48
Dreadful so far. Not even used the conditions to our advantage.
Be surprised if Bray sees the 2nd half.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:49
Doesn’t help not having Lennon at the game to give the team a rocket.
Memories of last season coming back, players going through the motions again today.
Hopefully there’s some budget to get some players in, in January. We need more experienced players to bring some consistency to this team. We look like world beaters or panel beaters and very little in between.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:50
I think that half was about the same as we left off last week. I think I agree that I would take off Todd and Bray at half time.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:51
BBC sport have Queens Park playing Airdrie on their live results on the audio page….
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Kozmano1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:51
That’s as bad a first half as you will see. They don’t look interested. We offer nothing in the final third. Tod, Stuart, Bray need to be taken off.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:51
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 16:16)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:53
We don’t have any pace up top and that’s allowing Queen’s to squeeze the game and put us under pressure in our own half.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:55
Quote:
buffy, Sat 13 Dec 15:51
For god sake Berkey he’s just lost his father. Show some respect.
I don`t think he was criticising Lennon, more that we`re missing him in the dugout
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:55
Quote:
buffy, Sat 13 Dec 15:51
For god sake Berkey he’s just lost his father. Show some respect.
Bizarre. Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:56
Quote:
Kozmano1, Sat 13 Dec 15:51
That’s as bad a first half as you will see. They don’t look interested.
Canny believe we are turning into this….questions needs to be asked as to why?
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:56
I stated a fact buffy, he’d demand more from them so not being there it will affect the team. I know why Lennon is not there, not sure how you can take what I said as me having a go at Lennon?
So you can climb down off your high horse.
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Topic Originator: Kozmano1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:56
Pars tv commentary. What are you going on about. Losers mentality!
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:57
Brutal, 2nd to everything and safe football with no movement. pihs. Be surprised to see Tod bray or MTodd 2nd half
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:57
Quote:
buffy, Sat 13 Dec 15:51
BBC sport have Queens Park playing Airdrie on their live results on the audio page….
I wish they were!
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:58
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 16:16)
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Topic Originator: Aaron Labonte
Date: Sat 13 Dec 15:59
Nothing wrong with berkeys comment. Wasn’t anything relating to that.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:00
Just put jordan on mute, sick of him telling me how well we are doing compared to last year, considering the investment put in was that 1st half any better?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:00
Quote:
buffy, Sat 13 Dec 15:58
P off Berkey, you’re just on your usual negative rant and needed to blame the manager first and foremost. You’re one to talk about high horses given your posts.
With respect i think you`ve taken it wrong.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Luxembourg Par
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:01
In the few pushes forward, crossing has been brutal, Fraser floats one far too far, then drives the next one to the first defender.
Corner?
Commentator mentions the amount of Pars players at the back of the box - corner hits the first defender 🤦🏻♂️
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 16:01)
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:04
Let`s hope we can do a St. Johnston in the second half. Maybe the wind can blow a couple in.
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Topic Originator: JnrB
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:04
Sorry buffy but you’ve suffered a bit of head loss here. Absolutely nothing wrong with what berkey’s said.
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 16:04)
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:04
What is it with this lot these days ?
Everytime we get a chance to get into top 4 they bottle it and look as though they have only met on the park for the first time
Like others i`m not happy where has the creativity has gone also
where has the shots at goal gone?
And At present getting beat with another header !
We need to get the finger Oot and get the win ,never mind a draw but we need to have attempts at goal to do that , just now we are absolutley brutal
I know there is 45 mins to go , But To say im scunnered just now is an understatement
Cmon Ye Pars
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Topic Originator: Ahoy!Ahoy!
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:06
We are in a bad situation now and the upcoming fixtures is a worry.
Ayr, Rovers and Ross county up next.
Certain players need dropped as they haven’t been performing for weeks.
Hoping some quality additions at our level can be brought in through January.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:07
Yeah this feels more like attacking the poster and not about what was actually said.
Let’s just move on, it’s a stressful time of the year.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:11
Rovers 4-0 Ross County
Arbroath 1-0 Partick Thistle
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:12
Wee Team now 4-0 up
Arbroath 1-0 up
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 16:14)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:15
They’ve put us under a fair bit of pressure but our passing out from the back has been awful
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:15
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 13 Dec 16:07
Yeah this feels more like attacking the poster and not about what was actually said.
Let’s just move on, it’s a stressful time of the year.
I’m genuinely sorry for what I said to you, Berkey. I’m at a bit low at the moment and it spilled over today.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:15
Terrell keeps us in it. Well done, young man
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:16
Terrell has kept us in it there. Where on earth are our defenders??? Especially both CB
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:16
Incredible save by BT. We should be two down.
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:17
That is some double save, 3 QP players with a free header on the 6 yard line, this is utter dugwash
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:17
Don’t worry buffy, no harm done at all. Hope you feel better soon
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:19
An injection of pace at last.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:20
Baffles me why Tod keeps getting 90 mins. Looks shattered by an hour every week, even though he`s done nowt.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:21
Morton 0-1 Airdrie
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:22
Airdrie 1-0 up
Arbroath 2-0 up
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:23
Hopefully his team mates can take some encouragement from that and take the game to QP. But our Berkey doesn`t miss a trick to start the old negative sentiments of let`s get more players in. We did that several times, it hasn`t worked. He was right in the vanguard of the McPake out brigade. I would have McPake any time, he played brillant last night.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:24
Arbroath 2-0 PTFC
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:29
At present not a good day at the office
Raith jump above us on 23 points 5th place
Pars on 22 points 6th place
Morton on 21 points 7th place
Airdrie on 17 points 8th Place
Queens on 16 points 9th Place
Ross County 12 Points 10th Place
apart from Morton and Ross County every other team gaining on us
at present it looks a very familiar story
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 16:30)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:30
Turning into a terrible day for county anyway!
Would absolutely take a point now, we need to see more squad rotation, some players look like they are running on empty not long into the game and performances have really dipped.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:31
Should be doing so much more in this league. Year after year in the championship we just seem to find ways to make life difficult for ourselves. Hopefully at some point it changes, not finished higher than 4th at this level since before administration.
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Topic Originator: BIG W
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:32
Arbroath down to 10 men
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:36
Tony Doc might not be on the bus back to Dingwall
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Topic Originator: wulliepar57
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:36
you would think we were down to 10 men also BIG W
would take a draw just now
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 16:38)
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:36
Rovers 5-0 Ross County
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:38
Tod goes down and it’s a certain penalty 🤷
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:39
And we score from the corner. 😂
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: xgatespars
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:39
Will take that but keep going for winner and don`t sit back.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:39
GOALLLLLLLL
1-1
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:39
YES! Gilmour equaliser. Header from a corner.
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Topic Originator: pacifist
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:40
mon the pars
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:40
Queens noticeably tiring. That and subs have made a difference
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: dafc123
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:40
Berkey and Buffy eh, who’d have thought they’d bring such a negative vibe to this thread. Makes me wonder why people bother posting.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:41
Rovers 6
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:41
Phew! Feels like a point gained for sure, enough time to somehow sneak this!?!
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:41
Come on Pars. Give us a winner.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:42
I’ve had too much hot chocolate at half time.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 16:48)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:42
How much longer will Roy McGregor give Tony Docherty?
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Topic Originator: Sammy_Must_Die
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:43
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 13 Dec 16:42
How much longer will Roy McGregor give Tony Docherty?
Probably about 10 minutes 😊
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:43
Geez that was close.
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:44
Cmon pars!
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:45
wee eck wrote:
> How much longer will Roy McGregor give Tony Docherty?
>
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Only question is gone before or after bus makes it back to Dingwall
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:47
In the top half Livvy have equalised against Dundee. They were booed off at half time and quite a humber of their fans left after they were 2-0 down. Open all mic folk are gobsmacked
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:52
Livi equaliser was a howler by the Dundee keeper apparently.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:54
FT. 1-1.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:54
Rovers fans will be seething despite their goal rush today. We remain above them in the table….
FT Queens Park 1-1 DAFC
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:54
A draw is probably an alright outcome having only played for 25 mins
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:56
You take the draw having gone behind but that`s a winnable fixture against a team who`d only won 2 of their 16 league games before today.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:58
Squeezed out a point from that game.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Steviethepar2
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:58
Quote:
buffy, Sat 13 Dec 16:41
Rovers 6
Jings never seen that coming Ross county not best going forward but been solid at the back
On the bright side even 6-0 still below us on goal difference
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:58
Quote:
dafc123, Sat 13 Dec 16:40
Berkey and Buffy eh, who’d have thought they’d bring such a negative vibe to this thread. Makes me wonder why people bother posting.
Something that was sorted out after one admitted feeling low. Have some class and keep your neb out.
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Topic Originator: Stozy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 16:59
Dropping too many points at the moment. Can`t really be drawing with QP if you want to push for top 4.
Subs certainly made a difference, maybe QP tired too. Poor conditions for football, but some of the Pars passing was dire, especially first half. Fussy ref who blew for any minor touch and refused to allow quick free kicks etc.
Good to have Rudden back. Tod looked better with Rudden on the park.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:03
At least we got the potential "three losses in a row" monkey off our back. Very happy to see Rudden return to the side. We looked so much better after the triple substitution. At the final whistle, there was a sense we could have stolen that.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:06
I`d have been reluctant to settle for a draw before the game, but given the conditions, that we were behind for much of the game and had several players not at their best, I`m pretty pleased with a point.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:10
I don`t think the hierarchy at the club are going for top 4, keep yir nick nacks on.
At the start of the season Lenny was talking mid table and a big push next season.
Just because we`ve racked up decent points thus far, I`m sure they are looking at anything above 6 is a fantastic bonus.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:14
I had no issue with Berkey`s comment about the team missing NL`s influence but thought it odd that his first comment on the match (15:40) criticised three players who weren`t even on the park - J Tod, Macleod and Carceres! I know some of you think the guy is beyond criticism but he only seems to come on here when things aren`t going so well. He`s like a vulture looking for a carcass.
Last season`s scapegoat has now established himself in a League 2 team in England and is no doubt crying all the way to the bank after Berkey inferred he`d be looking for a part-time club this season.
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Topic Originator: MinnesotaAndy
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:22
Very poor first half. Decent enough last 20 minutes given the conditions. Credit to Queen`s Park - pressed well and good crosses into our box.
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Topic Originator: shellypar
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:29
Quote:
Steviethepar2, Sat 13 Dec 16:58
Quote:
buffy, Sat 13 Dec 16:41
Rovers 6
Jings never seen that coming Ross county not best going forward but been solid at the back
On the bright side even 6-0 still below us on goal difference
Have u seen their results recently bud?
COYP
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:31
Quote:
wee eck, Sat 13 Dec 17:14
I had no issue with Berkey`s comment about the team missing NL`s influence but thought it odd that his first comment on the match (15:40) criticised three players who weren`t even on the park - J Tod, Macleod and Carceres! I know some of you think the guy is beyond criticism but he only seems to come on here when things aren`t going so well. He`s like a vulture looking for a carcass.
Last season`s scapegoat has now established himself in a League 2 team in England and is no doubt crying all the way to the bank after Berkey inferred he`d be looking for a part-time club this season.
The problem with posting negativity 99% of the time is, sometimes you are bound to be taken out of context.
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Topic Originator: Gaz3822
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:34
Wee Eck, he did say both Tod`s.
He has a point that it is their 1st season getting a fair amount of 1st team football in a difficult league.
Caceres is a funny one, I think we all thought he`d be a level or 2 above this.
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:43
Berkey`s statement seems to be a general one and not in regard to todays game but don`t let that stop you stirring the sheet eck.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:44
Sorry, but I don`t see the point in criticising players who aren`t on the park in a match thread. It gives the impression of just dying to have a pop at certain players. I don`t understand why a supporter would do that. Why not start a separate thread like `half-term report` seeing as we`re now halfway through the season?
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:47
Quite happy with how things are going personally.Never happy to drop points,but it’s a young inexperienced team,and they will make mistakes.Its always a rollercoaster being a pars fan!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:55
Least we got a draw out of it!
Who mentioned that we had tough fixtures then included Ross County? 🤔
No point in Docherty getting punted, the squad is mainly McGregors fault for demanding instant return to Prem and throwing money at huddys.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 13 Dec 17:58
IB`s post-match media interview -
Conditions turned out to be a lot worse than they had anticipated.
He said JCM was off for about 15 mins (!)* getting medical attention and could have been allowed back on a lot sooner (I didn`t see that being mentioned by anyone watching the game or in the BBC text commentary).
Complained about inconsistent refereeing but didn`t want to go into detail.
Happy with the contributions from the subs but agreed it wasn`t good enough to only really play well for the last half-hour.
ETA - * Report on COWS says JCM was off the park for 9 minutes getting a cut on his face treated.
Post Edited (Sat 13 Dec 18:47)
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Topic Originator: TAFKA_Super_Petrie
Date: Sat 13 Dec 18:10
Shame no bookies do the card market at this level; could print money on Gilmour and Hamilton almost every week!
Thought Cooper did really well when he came on, fair play to subs in general as they changed the game.
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"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 13 Dec 18:32
That`s Hammy`s 5th YC in 10 appearances. He`s got the worst % of those in the top 10 for bookings and it`s probably only his low number of appearances which has saved him from suspension. Gilmour now has 7 to carry forward into the second half of the season.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sat 13 Dec 18:51
Not a disaster but we are inconsistent. When we are good we can compete with the best in this league. We need to lift our game on a more regular basis if we are to threaten the top four.
‘Hello my name is Jefferson - I’m happy to be here let’s go!’
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Sat 13 Dec 19:04
For sure this is a competitive league and any team can beat any other. Ultimately you have to separate that out from performances. I thought like last week we were second to the ball and out fought in midfield. You can only play as well as the other team let`s you and I think that over the last two weeks we have suffered from that. We have sunk back into only playing well in phases of the game. In the long term that won`t get us the results we need. We are not there in terms of consistency and dont yet have the ability to dominate teams for most of the game. I think with a fair wind we can get a top four spot, but need to perform and pressure teams for longer in the game.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: GJS93
Date: Sat 13 Dec 19:11
"We need to lift our game on a more regular basis if we are to threaten the top four."
we need better players to do that.
today, take the point and run, hopefully there is a massive improvement next week.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Sat 13 Dec 19:12
We need to get a full strength team, on the park
every week ti have any chance of a play off spot. Kearney
and Rudden are sadly missed and Andy Todd needs to get
back to playing how he is capable of playing.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Sat 13 Dec 19:57
Offft that game was hard to watch. Really need to look at the formation and that team has to try harder in moving the ball forward..they can do it! Just needs a bit of experience getting singed in January and we will be in the playoffs.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sat 13 Dec 21:51
Here’s wee eck looking for a rare chance to score a point. Your still on the McCann is just about to break through train I see! Meanwhile Barney in a handful appearances has already equalled his best ever championship return.
I haven’t been on in months as we’ve been doing okay and the young boys have been very hit or miss but had a bad feeling about today as we’ve just lost momentum and impetus these last few weeks.
Sounds like you’ve really missed me.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 13 Dec 22:00
So you admit you don`t come on when we`re doing OK. I just don`t get that attitude.
I miss you like I miss the toothache when it goes away.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 13 Dec 22:43
Quote:
Berkey, Sat 13 Dec 21:51
Here’s wee eck looking for a rare chance to score a point. Your still on the McCann is just about to break through train I see! Meanwhile Barney in a handful appearances has already equalled his best ever championship return.
I haven’t been on in months as we’ve been doing okay and the young boys have been very hit or miss but had a bad feeling about today as we’ve just lost momentum and impetus these last few weeks.
Sounds like you’ve really missed me.
This pretty much sums Berkey up. Only appears when he has something negative to say. He absolutely loves it when things go wrong with the Pars. You can tell he`ll have been miserable AF when we`ve been doing ok.
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Topic Originator: king lad
Date: Sat 13 Dec 23:12
Frustrating result, given how queen`s park have been this year. But on the day, don`t think you can be that unhappy with a point after the performance and how the game unfolded.
Just need to get back to some of the performances we saw earlier in the season, not sure if it`s a knock in confidence or a bit of fatigue creeping in but definitely think the overall style has slipped a bit. Hopefully getting the likes of Cooper and Rudden back will help us. As much as anything being able to rotate in those positions should help.
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sun 14 Dec 00:01
Painful to watch. We don’t have a clue what to do in attacking positions, zero movement.
The constant passing around the back is a hard watch. Billy>Nuradeen>Mullen then a miss placed pass into midfield must’ve happened 50 times.
Billy’s double save was brilliant, him, Gilmour n Fraser about the only players with pass marks.
Amade, Bray, Tod and Barney looked absolutely lost today.
Conditions definitely played a part, so take a point and move on but we need to improve.
Post Edited (Sun 14 Dec 00:38)
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Topic Originator: hudza
Date: Sun 14 Dec 00:05
The standard of officiating at this level is absolutely pathetic as well. Not in a bias aspect but in levels of sheer incompetence. The Lino missed at least 3 blatent offsides whilst the ref was just blowing at every opportunity possible.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 14 Dec 08:07
I have been busy, but I still regularly come to the forum but don’t feel the need to post so much if most if what people are saying is the same as what I would say.
All my issues over the last few seasons have been resolved, we’ve moved on from trying the same things that haven’t worked for years.
I wasn’t even that negative, who can argue that some of the youngsters look jaded and haven’t been at it for a few games now and that unless we rest them we’ll likely continue to struggle.
Problem is the happy clappers who would be happy going again with last seasons squad confuse objectivity with negativity.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 14 Dec 08:33
Our record after 18 games this season is quite a bit better than last season at the same stage (and we avoided a league cup start than we did last year) so there is progress there, particularly with all the changes that have happened.
Still quite a few frustrating aspects to address though. But Rome wasnt built in a day. And let`s not make perfection the enemy of good.
I`m not a Happy Clapper, Private Frazer. As satisfying as some folk feel to bump their gums about how rubbish everything is, it does actually tend to make more positive change happen if you celebrate the small wins along the way.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 14 Dec 08:39
Quote:
Berkey, Sun 14 Dec 08:07
I have been busy, but I still regularly come to the forum but don’t feel the need to post so much if most if what people are saying is the same as what I would say.
All my issues over the last few seasons have been resolved, we’ve moved on from trying the same things that haven’t worked for years.
I wasn’t even that negative, who can argue that some of the youngsters look jaded and haven’t been at it for a few games now and that unless we rest them we’ll likely continue to struggle.
Problem is the happy clappers who would be happy going again with last seasons squad confuse objectivity with negativity.
A perfectly good post until your last paragraph, Berkey. No need to label any fellow fans "happy clappers." Just because some don`t post critical comments doesn`t mean they`re happy when they watch a poor Pars performance.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 14 Dec 09:26
Maybe our form has dipped due to the changes in the weather?
As they used to say, "Aye a good player but can he play on a cold, wet and windy night in Arbroath?"
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Topic Originator: par_33
Date: Sun 14 Dec 09:41
Burty kept saying something along the lines of yesterday it wasn’t an expected result at Arbroath, how not?
Arbroath are flying high, it’s not the best place to go any time of year, never mind a cold windy wet December day. They are where they are on merit, not luck.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 14 Dec 12:23
Most seasons you would hope we`d beat a part-time/hybrid team like Arbroath so I see what Burty is saying.
This season though they are a solid experienced side with a couple of very good loans coming in in Findlay Marshall, Taylor Steven and the giant at the back Brooklyn Kabongolo.
They gave a good blend and I`d say they are a side better suited to being consistent and successful in the Scottish championship than we are right now.
Like most championship teams though they are only an injury or two (or a loan ending) in key positions away from slipping down.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Sun 14 Dec 12:56
Quote:
Berkey, Sun 14 Dec 08:07
I have been busy, but I still regularly come to the forum but don’t feel the need to post so much if most if what people are saying is the same as what I would say.
All my issues over the last few seasons have been resolved, we’ve moved on from trying the same things that haven’t worked for years.
I wasn’t even that negative, who can argue that some of the youngsters look jaded and haven’t been at it for a few games now and that unless we rest them we’ll likely continue to struggle.
Problem is the happy clappers who would be happy going again with last seasons squad confuse objectivity with negativity.
I’ve never commented directly to you before Berkey, in fact I often agree with much of what you say. You’re well able to defend yourself, but you’ve managed to get a reputation on here for being negative. (Cue outraged posters with examples of your posts but I’m not rising to that or replying to any further posts).
Maybe Berkey, take a second to reflect before posting. You’d be a much more effective contributor.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Sun 14 Dec 13:13
A bit more consideration of the phrase `play the ball not the man` would help when posting.
It`s not right to jump on something because of who said it.
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Topic Originator: CrossPar
Date: Sun 14 Dec 16:06
It gets quite monotonous for the majority on here when threads descend into personal vendettas. Give it up guys and concentrate on the subject of the thread please.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 14 Dec 16:12
GG
`A perfectly good post until your last paragraph, Berkey. No need to label any fellow fans "happy clappers." Just because some don`t post critical comments doesn`t mean they`re happy when they watch a poor Pars performance`
Is there not a degree of dishonesty here? If you`re not happy and think there`s something to criticise(if there was nothing to criticise you`d be happy) and deliberately don`t state your opinion just cause you don`t want to be negative, that`s silly no?
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Sun 14 Dec 16:35
Is there not a degree of dishonesty here? If you`re not happy and think there`s something to criticise(if there was nothing to criticise you`d be happy) and deliberately don`t state your opinion just cause you don`t want to be negative, that`s silly no?
That hurts my head just reading it!
‘Hello my name is Jefferson - I’m happy to be here let’s go!’
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Topic Originator: adj27
Date: Sun 14 Dec 16:44
I struggle to understand why Kane gets so little time on the pitch - I know his fitness is an issue but in my opinion he’s far and away our best forward. Against Arbroath he was taken off fairly early when he still looked full of running (I’d have taken Tod off and given Barney a shot alongside Kane) and several games he hasn’t featured at all despite being on the bench. Seems strange when we struggle to score goals.
Andy
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Sun 14 Dec 17:14
Quote:
adj27, Sun 14 Dec 16:44
I struggle to understand why Kane gets so little time on the pitch - I know his fitness is an issue but in my opinion he’s far and away our best forward. Against Arbroath he was taken off fairly early when he still looked full of running (I’d have taken Tod off and given Barney a shot alongside Kane) and several games he hasn’t featured at all despite being on the bench. Seems strange when we struggle to score goals.
I’ve said it more than a few times on here, but I can’t help but think there’s more going on than we know.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 14 Dec 18:47
Quote:
pars4life1, Sun 14 Dec 16:12
GG
`A perfectly good post until your last paragraph, Berkey. No need to label any fellow fans "happy clappers." Just because some don`t post critical comments doesn`t mean they`re happy when they watch a poor Pars performance`
Is there not a degree of dishonesty here? If you`re not happy and think there`s something to criticise(if there was nothing to criticise you`d be happy) and deliberately don`t state your opinion just cause you don`t want to be negative, that`s silly no?
Allow me to clarify. No Pars fan can possibly be happy when our team performs poorly and loses games they could be reasonably expected to win. Some fans are prepared to overlook a poor performance if we win the match. It`s not dishonest to keep any frustration or disappointment to yourself any more than it is to post it on a public forum. Personally, I have no problem making a general comment about a performance or to say that several of our players were below their best, but there`s no way I`m going to slag individual players with terms like "wage thief" or "waste of a jersey" as I really don`t see the point. I wouldn`t even use such terms to describe players of other clubs.
My main objection to Berkey`s post is his use of the insulting term "happy clappers" to describe fellow fans who refrain from criticising or scapegoating certain players. The implication is that these fans are intellectually challenged, like performing seals. My view is that they display commendable restraint by maintaining a dignified silence.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 14 Dec 18:58
If being called a happy clapper is insulting then my first question is if you should look at yourself TBH.
You should post your opinion however you feel at the time, it shouldn`t matter in the slightest if it`s negative or positive. I would say it`s dishonest to keep one to yourself and not the other, there is nothing dignified about holding back.
I don`t disagree that phrases like wage theft are overly strong, even the worst player is usually trying their best
Post Edited (Sun 14 Dec 19:02)
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 14 Dec 19:06
Being called a “happy clapper” is an insult. I don’t think you can view it any other way ?
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 14 Dec 19:08
It might be insulting but it comes with reasoning and if you think the insult applies to you then you need to question what you are doing that gets you called one.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 14 Dec 19:11
Jesus Christ pars4life1 can you try and make your statements in the positive please..... all these paired negatives aren`t half not making it difficult to get an unclear view of the points that you`re not wanting to be difficult to be misunderstood.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sun 14 Dec 19:13
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sun 14 Dec 19:11
Jesus Christ pars4life1 can you try and make your statements in the positive please..... all these paired negatives aren`t half not making it difficult to get an unclear view of the points that you`re not wanting to be difficult to be misunderstood.
Very sharp, sir 👏
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 14 Dec 19:17
`Jesus Christ pars4life1 can you try and make your statements in the positive please..... all these paired negatives aren`t half not making it difficult to get an unclear view of the points that you`re not wanting to be difficult to be misunderstood.`
I am completely confused by this post, I have no idea WTF you are trying to say.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 14 Dec 19:40
Quote:
pars4life1, Sun 14 Dec 18:58
If being called a happy clapper is insulting then my first question is if you should look at yourself TBH.
Do you believe that calling someone a "happy clapper" is intended as a compliment? I`m quite relaxed in myself. I know I`m as far as it`s possible to be from the idea of a "happy clapper."
You should post your opinion however you feel at the time, it shouldn`t matter in the slightest if it`s negative or positive. I would say it`s dishonest to keep one to yourself and not the other, there is nothing dignified about holding back.
With respect, I can`t agree with you. It is certainly undignified to post a rant with insulting language about any player you don`t rate on a public forum, as you yourself admit just below this post.
I don`t disagree that phrases like wage theft are overly strong, even the worst player is usually trying their best
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: ubisanman
Date: Sun 14 Dec 22:13
Quote:
CrossPar, Sun 14 Dec 16:06
It gets quite monotonous for the majority on here when threads descend into personal vendettas. Give it up guys and concentrate on the subject of the thread please.
100% this.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Sun 14 Dec 22:18
Absolutely correct.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 14 Dec 22:32
Quote:
pars4life1, Sun 14 Dec 19:17
`Jesus Christ pars4life1 can you try and make your statements in the positive please..... all these paired negatives aren`t half not making it difficult to get an unclear view of the points that you`re not wanting to be difficult to be misunderstood.`
I am completely confused by this post, I have no idea WTF you are trying to say.
That was precisely the point he was making re another posters style.
Made me chuckle
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 15 Dec 09:04
If you take umbrage at being called a Happy Clapper on a football forum, then you should maybe turn off the PC/app for a while and go enjoy life.
Christ theres a whole world out there where these things are hugely trivial.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Mon 15 Dec 11:30
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 15 Dec 09:04
If you take umbrage at being called a Happy Clapper on a football forum, then you should maybe turn off the PC/app for a while and go enjoy life.
Christ theres a whole world out there where these things are hugely trivial.
As I explained further up, Dave, I don`t take umbrage personally, as I am intelligent enough to know the term "happy clapper" doesn`t apply to me. It is certainly intended as an insult in the context it is used on this forum. The implication is that such people are of very low IQ and will happily clap at anything.
Perhaps you view the term differently? If so, I`d be interested to hear it. 🙂
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 15 Dec 11:42
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 15 Dec 11:30
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 15 Dec 09:04
If you take umbrage at being called a Happy Clapper on a football forum, then you should maybe turn off the PC/app for a while and go enjoy life.
Christ theres a whole world out there where these things are hugely trivial.
As I explained further up, Dave, I don`t take umbrage personally, as I am intelligent enough to know the term "happy clapper" doesn`t apply to me. It is certainly intended as an insult in the context it is used on this forum. The implication is that such people are of very low IQ and will happily clap at anything.
Perhaps you view the term differently? If so, I`d be interested to hear it. 🙂
I view it that it is people who wear such thick black and white tinted specs that they cant, objectively, discuss every aspect of the club, wether positively or negatively.
Id say it’s more an opinion on a posters viewpoints, rather than an insult.
To add context, there are also posters on here who are “Doom mongers” that cant view anything the club does in a positive light.
But again my view would be that if somebody takes offence to those terms, and feel like its insulting, then they should maybe take a break from the forums and look at the world outside of it.
Post Edited (Mon 15 Dec 11:43)
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 15 Dec 16:22
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 15 Dec 11:30
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 15 Dec 09:04
If you take umbrage at being called a Happy Clapper on a football forum, then you should maybe turn off the PC/app for a while and go enjoy life.
Christ theres a whole world out there where these things are hugely trivial.
As I explained further up, Dave, I don`t take umbrage personally, as I am intelligent enough to know the term "happy clapper" doesn`t apply to me. It is certainly intended as an insult in the context it is used on this forum. The implication is that such people are of very low IQ and will happily clap at anything.
Perhaps you view the term differently? If so, I`d be interested to hear it. 🙂
Strange thing is when you’re actually at Eadt End going back decades, you never see the so called happy clappers.
Pars fans at home have traditionally been a bunch of moaning hoors.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Mon 15 Dec 17:30
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 15 Dec 11:42
Quote:
GG Riva, Mon 15 Dec 11:30
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 15 Dec 09:04
If you take umbrage at being called a Happy Clapper on a football forum, then you should maybe turn off the PC/app for a while and go enjoy life.
Christ theres a whole world out there where these things are hugely trivial.
As I explained further up, Dave, I don`t take umbrage personally, as I am intelligent enough to know the term "happy clapper" doesn`t apply to me. It is certainly intended as an insult in the context it is used on this forum. The implication is that such people are of very low IQ and will happily clap at anything.
Perhaps you view the term differently? If so, I`d be interested to hear it. 🙂
I view it that it is people who wear such thick black and white tinted specs that they cant, objectively, discuss every aspect of the club, wether positively or negatively.
Id say it’s more an opinion on a posters viewpoints, rather than an insult.
To add context, there are also posters on here who are “Doom mongers” that cant view anything the club does in a positive light.
But again my view would be that if somebody takes offence to those terms, and feel like its insulting, then they should maybe take a break from the forums and look at the world outside of it.
And who gets to decide on who is in what category. Ask everyone and they will tell you they are one of the ones who are simply being objective. Too many posters look for evidence to back up their personal view. As an example, Berkey is capable of making good points, but will only make posts which support his negative opinion of a player/team/match/manager or whatever. If he was being objective he would also make positive posts when deserved. He doesn’t which is why he gets a bit of flack. Same goes the other way, would be nice to have all posters try and be more objective as would make for a better forum.
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Tue 16 Dec 01:35
To Whom It Concerns
Whether you want to describe other `posters viewpoints` as those of `Happy Clappers` or `Doom Mongers,` you`re stepping into different territory altogether when you `suggest` that, because they feel insulted by such labels, `they should maybe take a break from the forums and look at the world outside`
I think that`s called a condescending attitude.
i.e. dismissing their opinions or feelings as less valid.
From `the outside world:`
before you go telling others to be more tolerant, maybe you could attend to the blind eye and deaf ear you turn to your own intolerance?
Post Edited (Tue 16 Dec 01:46)
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