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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 19 Jan 14:26
I hear folk worrying about keeping players who shine. Particularly when they do it on TV.
There was a time, not long ago, when we would not be able to refuse a reasonable offer.
I think we are over that now and I am confident our owners are more interested in building a winning squad than making a buck at this point.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 19 Jan 14:34
Topic Originator: PARrot like
Date: Mon 19 Jan 14:26
I hear folk worrying about keeping players who shine. Particularly when they do it on TV.
There was a time, not long ago, when we would not be able to refuse a reasonable offer.
I think we are over that now and I am confident our owners are more interested in building a winning squad than making a buck at this point.
Every player has a price. Just hope if we do sell some players on we get a good fee. Will help enormously if we are in the SPL though.
Mullen is free to sign a pre contract now and that is concerning as there must be clubs sniffing around him.
I am wondering if Lennon giving him the arm band ( Gilmour was the obvious choice ) on Sat was maybe a ploy to try and convince him his short term future at least is at EEP.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 19 Jan 16:04
I thought the same about JCM and making him captain. We have a very strong back three and that`s without Bene. Hopefully we can convince him that another year at EEP will benefit him.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 19 Jan 18:00
Nothing coming out of the club regarding Mullen at all but it’s blindingly obvious he would have offers on the table from us and elsewhere.
We all know he’s going onto better things at some point but I’d be happy if he could at least stay on for another season or two and we get a decent payday for him.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Mon 19 Jan 18:05
I read it a wee bit differently, I think that was Lennon saying, we all know you`re going to go far in football, I`m making you the captain today, I`m putting you in the spotlight, now go out and show everyone how good you are
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Topic Originator: Leamington_sPAR
Date: Mon 19 Jan 18:45
At 21 I’m not convinced he would walk straight into a higher league team North or South of the border. For his own career to flourish he might be better off staying with us for another year (at least). I guess we’ll soon see if a pre-contract elsewhere beckons.
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Mon 19 Jan 19:20
We will be lucky to see Mullen at EEP next
season, unless we win a play off spot and make to
the Premiership.
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Mon 19 Jan 20:02
Quote:
Leamington_sPAR, Mon 19 Jan 18:45
At 21 I’m not convinced he would walk straight into a higher league team North or South of the border. For his own career to flourish he might be better off staying with us for another year (at least). I guess we’ll soon see if a pre-contract elsewhere beckons.
This and when I was involved in Pro Youth, it was may advice to all the players who ended up playing First Team football. Young lads jump far too soon at times and the hit rate is pretty low in comparison. If you’re playing First Team football and are doing well, stick around and keep getting the experiences and develop.
Lennon Miller had the right idea at Motherwell, so did Lewis Ferguson IMHO, your Billy Gilmour and Ben Gannon-Doak stories are few and far between.
Loving You, Is In My DNA 🇾🇪
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 19 Jan 20:56
Have to agree with the above. Part of the story is to have good players around you to bring you on. Another season with us would serve JCM well to build his reputation. Next season if we don`t go up thus season, there will be a real push next year.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Rigger Al
Date: Mon 19 Jan 22:07
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 19 Jan 14:26
I hear folk worrying about keeping players who shine. Particularly when they do it on TV.
There was a time, not long ago, when we would not be able to refuse a reasonable offer.
I think we are over that now and I am confident our owners are more interested in building a winning squad than making a buck at this point.
I would also throw in keeping our management team !
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 20 Jan 03:52
I think Mullen is happy at EEP but he knows he can play at a higher level (so does his agent).
If he had accepted a longer deal he would be tied to that salary even if we went up.
He might be happy to stay if we go up. It might just depend on how good a pre-contract he is offered.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 20 Jan 07:46
Agree he could play at a higher level but he is supported by Nuru and Kieran who I would say both have more pace. JCM reads the game very well and has a good career ahead of him. I just think he would benefit from another season with us, but these are the choices a player has to make I suppose.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 20 Jan 08:14
We can all speculate all we want, but for most footballers nowadays, it comes down to money and who can blame them? Careers are short and can become even shorter as a result of a serious injury, so it makes sense to cash in when the chance arises.
And then there`s agents. Most players are young and impressionable. They`ll tend to go with their agent`s advice. Agents wouldn`t be doing their jobs properly if they didn`t try and maximise their client`s income, especially as it also means more money for them.
Hopefully, all our top players will still be at EEP next season, but this will depend on whether they get better offers from bigger clubs and whether our club is able to match or better these offers.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 20 Jan 14:24
If a player gets a significantly better offer elsewhere then they are going to take it - that’s how the labour market works, footballers included.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 20 Jan 14:35
Quote:
veteraneastender, Tue 20 Jan 14:24
If a player gets a significantly better offer elsewhere then they are going to take it - that’s how the labour market works, footballers included.
Unless his club decides the player is vital to their ambitions and matches or tops the offer from rival clubs, VEE. The player may then decide he`s happy where he is because he has great teammates and a good manager......
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Tue 20 Jan 16:49
We may also see interest in Abdulai. That said, we did well to secure him on a good deal.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 20 Jan 22:13
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 20 Jan 14:35
Quote:
veteraneastender, Tue 20 Jan 14:24
If a player gets a significantly better offer elsewhere then they are going to take it - that’s how the labour market works, footballers included.
Unless his club decides the player is vital to their ambitions and matches or tops the offer from rival clubs, VEE. The player may then decide he`s happy where he is because he has great teammates and a good manager......
I doubt the club will be able to pricematch the offers and wages that are inevitably going to come in for Mullen, he is destined for a higher level, just like Edwards.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 20 Jan 23:06
Quote:
PARrot, Tue 20 Jan 03:52
I think Mullen is happy at EEP but he knows he can play at a higher level (so does his agent).
If he had accepted a longer deal he would be tied to that salary even if we went up.
He might be happy to stay if we go up. It might just depend on how good a pre-contract he is offered.
I would have thought most contracts will include a % rise for promotion or a decrease for relegation. Mullen will have offers from the top league in the summer though. No doubt keeping him will become more difficult the more he improves
COYP
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 20 Jan 23:07
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Tue 20 Jan 16:49
We may also see interest in Abdulai. That said, we did well to secure him on a good deal.
Out of them all Abdulai is the best of the lot IMO
COYP
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Wed 21 Jan 04:27
Quote:
NMCmassive, Tue 20 Jan 23:07
Quote:
Sacktheref69, Tue 20 Jan 16:49
We may also see interest in Abdulai. That said, we did well to secure him on a good deal.
Out of them all Abdulai is the best of the lot IMO
Correct. He was up against a Scottish international, who had to give him his lunch money just to get out of his back pocket and onto the team bus.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: Angus_W
Date: Wed 21 Jan 13:42
Think we can all agree the club is in a good place in terms of playing squad value & talent. This will change over time but lets just enjoy the ride......
You’ve seen the Pars now please go home!
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Topic Originator: Polt
Date: Wed 21 Jan 20:43
Agreed Angus
I’m hopeful Mullen doesn’t make the same mistake as Faisal, he’s a cracking player and would like to see him continue his first team experience with us as is always said clubs are always looking for young experienced talent. He’s got a future at a higher level but maybe one more year as a first team choice will benefit him, it depends who offers him something to be honest.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Wed 21 Jan 22:00
I was actually pleased JCM only signed a 1 year deal after the first few months of this season. Thought he looked a bit of a bombscare.
Lennon has clearly put him into shape with some of the daft passes in his own half and runs at the wrong time.
He`s looked really good last couple games and think he`s an important player for us.
Think he will go in the summer though. I think another 2 years under Lennon wouldn`t do him any harm but like said above, more money and a step up might be too tempting and you can see why that is attractive.
We need to get in the top division to maximise fees and keep the best talent.
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Thu 22 Jan 06:24
The difference these days is that if we lose a player of the calibre of JCM, there is a fair chance we will recruit another gem from elsewhere. The general quality of our signings under the new regime has been pretty impressive.
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Topic Originator: Benny74
Date: Thu 22 Jan 06:53
Me Bord spends money on youngsters to accumulate so they will all have a price but I think those prices will be pretty high and set in stone. Time wasting offers will be dealt with and laughed at. Still would love us to get another mature player in midfield and centre half. Help the youngsters and manage the game although they dealt with hibs easily.
Benny74
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Thu 22 Jan 07:05
Quote:
OzPar, Thu 22 Jan 06:24
The difference these days is that if we lose a player of the calibre of JCM, there is a fair chance we will recruit another gem from elsewhere. The general quality of our signings under the new regime has been pretty impressive.
There hasn`t been a bad signing yet tbh . Every player has been of a high standard.
Can`t think of anyone who`s been brought in and been a failure
Cmon ye pars
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 22 Jan 12:45
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Thu 22 Jan 07:05
Quote:
OzPar, Thu 22 Jan 06:24
The difference these days is that if we lose a player of the calibre of JCM, there is a fair chance we will recruit another gem from elsewhere. The general quality of our signings under the new regime has been pretty impressive.
There hasn`t been a bad signing yet tbh . Every player has been of a high standard.
Can`t think of anyone who`s been brought in and been a failure
The hoard of players we recruited in January last year were for the most part, absolutely brutal. Summer onwards has been great though
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Thu 22 Jan 13:35
Aye, but last year we had to bring in a whole load in a panic, plus- who wants to come here in a relegation fight? It was a case of throwing enough and hoping some sticks.
This season, we haven`t had a miss, we have some potential real quality. Even the ones not playing (Cacares etc) have shown signs, whether they keep kicking on is a different matter.
NL seems excellent at man management, and Ian Brunskill clearly a really good coach, particularly with potential.
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Topic Originator: Lesliepartoo
Date: Thu 22 Jan 16:41
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 22 Jan 12:45
Quote:
Lesliepartoo, Thu 22 Jan 07:05
Quote:
OzPar, Thu 22 Jan 06:24
The difference these days is that if we lose a player of the calibre of JCM, there is a fair chance we will recruit another gem from elsewhere. The general quality of our signings under the new regime has been pretty impressive.
There hasn`t been a bad signing yet tbh . Every player has been of a high standard.
Can`t think of anyone who`s been brought in and been a failure
The hoard of players we recruited in January last year were for the most part, absolutely brutal. Summer onwards has been great though
Oh trust me a wasn`t even including the January panics that we got. Ad be surprised if any of them have progressed apart from Archie Stevens.
Cmon ye pars
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