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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Sun 8 Mar 23:16
Goes without saying, but sfa will bottle it
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Topic Originator: nick_dafc1
Date: Sun 8 Mar 23:55
Quote:
thebear, Sun 8 Mar 23:16
Goes without saying, but sfa will bottle it
We get a share of the celtic v st mirren attendance prize money so that would be terrible
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Mon 9 Mar 00:55
Is that true??, we get 150k plus tv revenues plus our share of our match gate receipts, not sure we get revenues from the other match.
Any way sfa has to make a stand.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 9 Mar 01:09
Both semi final gate receipts are put into one pot and shared 4 ways now.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 9 Mar 03:21
What were all the guys in black with blue nappers
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 9 Mar 08:26
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 9 Mar 03:21
What were all the guys in black with blue nappers
Union Bears - the clowns that spray paint everything here with UB07 and red white and blue stripes……their previous leader is a well known gangland figure from Glasgow thats bolted to Dubai/Bahrain to avoid the police here.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 9 Mar 08:31
Sure I walked passed some pihs like that in Kirkcaldy yesterday.
Idiots.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Mon 9 Mar 08:37
Sectarian singing from both sets of fans loud and clear on tv. Rangers “fans” with masks on the pitch at the end.
Closed doors for the lot of them for a full season - and make the clubs make up the missing revenue to everyone they play.
Suspect the OP’s tongue firmly in cheek.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Mon 9 Mar 08:39
If that`s true, then ban celtic fans, and probably rangers fans. Fine celtic and rangers also fine them the value of missing fans receipts to make up the losses and share it amongst the other three.
Sadly religious bigotry and sectarian has contributed. But it`s also football hate. Sadly the hate exist in many clubs, ours included. Sadly the Scottish government does nothing and it continues. I Stand by what I said above, but we have to photo and ban, a few bans will reduce it hugely.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 9 Mar 08:52
banning fans because of pitch invations in previous rounds of the cup. Hope the SFA dont subscribe to premier sports then
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Mon 9 Mar 08:53
And ‘probably’ rangers fans???
What I saw was them in stupid, coordinated masks running the full length of the pitch to confront throw flares etc into the Celtic stand?
What makes that ok?
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 9 Mar 09:06
No official statements from either club yet……absolute disgrace
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 9 Mar 09:21
I really hope the SFA don`t take the stance of banning all fans of a club based on a minority who infringe the pitch. We`d be fooked.
People in glass houses...
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Mon 9 Mar 09:28
But it’s not just the pitch invasion is it? It’s the vile sectarian singing from both sides, the clashes outside the stadium, the effect on already overstretched police and emergency services.
Wringing hands or blaming sides doesn’t do any more.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 9 Mar 12:44
Play their games Sunday 8am - no pubs open before and after kick off.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 9 Mar 12:58
Quote:
veteraneastender, Mon 9 Mar 12:44
Play their games Sunday 8am - no pubs open before and after kick off.
They`d miss church/chapel though.
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Topic Originator: CJM
Date: Mon 9 Mar 13:25
We had the result of the round, a game that will be remembered (among us) for years. Yet all the attention is on those two trying to reenact the battle of the boyne. Embarrassing to Scottish football.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Mon 9 Mar 15:14
Same old, same old.
It`ll never change - same when someone dares to beat them. It`s never about how well that team did - always just about how bad whichever of the bigot brothers involved was.
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Mon 9 Mar 15:35
Are we not being hypocrites here, given our feud with Falkirk?
Is it time to recognise we are no better and take steps to sort our own house out.
Keep the rivalry but bury the vitriol.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 9 Mar 15:50
Quote:
jake89, Mon 9 Mar 12:58
Quote:
veteraneastender, Mon 9 Mar 12:44
Play their games Sunday 8am - no pubs open before and after kick off.
They`d miss church/chapel though.
Obviously you are not a Tim 🙄
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Topic Originator: Gareth Keenan Investigates
Date: Mon 9 Mar 16:20
`Are we not being hypocrites here, given our feud with Falkirk?
Is it time to recognise we are no better and take steps to sort our own house out.
Keep the rivalry but bury the vitriol.`
Not even mildly similar scenes have been seen at either East End or TFS as those at Ibrox yesterday so yes I would say we are quite a big bit better than both sets of they supporters.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Mon 9 Mar 16:52
It honestly felt like the weekend showed the worst side of the Scottish game again.
Old Firm matches are always tense, everyone knows that, but yesterday looked like one of those situations where the warning signs were there and nothing was really done about them until it had already kicked off. A bigger away allocation for the first time and they play the full version of Simply the Best just to turn it into the usual sectarian nonsense that comes with these two. When that first lot of Rangers fans ran onto the pitch and were watched by police, it pretty much set the tone for the rest of the antics. That should’ve been the moment where things got tightened up, not something that was brushed off until more people followed.
From the clips going around online, the police response looked more reactive than proactive. By the time people were getting onto the pitch and then things started spilling out onto the streets of Glasgow afterwards, it was already out of control. When you leave that window open, the ones looking for trouble will take it every time.
At the same time though, it’s only fair to admit we’re not exactly in a great position to lecture anyone about fan behaviour. On Saturday all three goals had fans running onto the pitch (the first two especially were completely unnecessary). It wasn’t a last minute winner or anything like that although that doesn`t make it acceptable. Seeing stewards getting knocked over in the process just makes it worse, because that’s exactly the sort of thing that ends up with clubs getting fines, bans, or reduced allocations. It’s the wider support that ends up paying for it.
The whole “ultra” scene seems to be creeping back in as well. In theory it’s meant to be about atmosphere, banners, and organised support which pitch invasions aside the North West did that. But a lot of what we’re seeing now just looks like wee guys in balaclavas trying to act hard. It’s not even just a Glasgow thing either, you’re seeing similar scenes popping up all over the country.
The frustrating part is that the basic idea shouldn’t be difficult. The stands are for the fans. The pitch is for the players and the officials. It really should be as simple as that.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: SeasonedPar
Date: Mon 9 Mar 17:14
I’d agree with a lot of your comments, Sacktheref69.
It’s hard to blame the police or the stewards. If they stopped the bams getting on the pitch, there might’ve been another Hillsborough situation. Damned if you do, etc.
What’s for sure is, everyone’s talking about the nonsense and sectarian singing (aye, and me and again), but it doesn’t spoil our result. I’m sure it’s the same for Falkirk and St Mirren fans. Also, allowing away fans was, on hindsight, a mistake.
I’d ban them from attending all their games home and away for a year, making both clubs pay back lost revenue to the clubs they play. That might just make both clubs take action - and might actually make those games a better atmosphere without their toxic songs and entitlement.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Mon 9 Mar 18:13
Quote:
PARrot, Mon 9 Mar 15:35
Are we not being hypocrites here, given our feud with Falkirk?
Is it time to recognise we are no better and take steps to sort our own house out.
Keep the rivalry but bury the vitriol.
I`ve never seen our fans or Falkirk fans run the length of the park in gimp masks to chuck flares or whatever into the opposition stand.
Yes we`ve had a few unsavoury moments but it`s mainly a few idiots chucking stuff on the park.
A bit of boisterous celebrating is fine but again, our lads do tend to just go back into the stand.
They don`t go chasing players for selfies or indulge in the aforementioned flare chucking at the opposition support.
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 9 Mar 18:32
Police should have made sure before the game to speak to Celtic and get their players off the park immediately should they win and allow them back on once Rangers fans dispersed.
It was always going to happen if Celtic were to win the game.
Next game should be either without away fans or a closed door match.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Mon 9 Mar 18:51
Unfortunately won’t happen. Nothing much will. Hibs rangers final had way more violence and very little happened.
Should be Celtic out cup and both teams banned for 2 years.
Old firm next season all games behind closed doors, again it was a minority of 200 each that caused most of the mayhem and vandalism yesterday.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Tue 10 Mar 00:34
Sadly sfa, will do minimal stuff, both teams will say its a minority don`t blame us and scottish government stick its head up it`s backside. Sadly we are almost condoning it by our response.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 10 Mar 06:15
I just got round to watching the BBC highlights of the game. I was actually more interested in seeing the aftermatch scenes than the game itself, so I was quite disappointed to hear Dougie Donnelly explain that the BBC couldn`t show the scenes because of the ongoing police investigation.
Maybe I`m being a bit thick here, but how does showing the unacceptable behaviour of some idiot fans on the pitch prejudice the case against them? Surely the general public could help the police by identifying the troublemakers? I remember the BBC programme "Crimewatch" which did exactly that. There was one guy who famously held up a building society and smiled at the camera before leaving with a bag full of banknotes. The presenter told us at the end of the programme that a viewer had called in and supplied the police with the robber`s name and address so they`d nipped round to his house and arrested him. 😀
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Tue 10 Mar 06:56
Quote:
GG Riva, Tue 10 Mar 06:15
I just got round to watching the BBC highlights of the game. I was actually more interested in seeing the aftermatch scenes than the game itself, so I was quite disappointed to hear Dougie Donnelly explain that the BBC couldn`t show the scenes because of the ongoing police investigation.
Maybe I`m being a bit thick here, but how does showing the unacceptable behaviour of some idiot fans on the pitch prejudice the case against them? Surely the general public could help the police by identifying the troublemakers? I remember the BBC programme "Crimewatch" which did exactly that. There was one guy who famously held up a building society and smiled at the camera before leaving with a bag full of banknotes. The presenter told us at the end of the programme that a viewer had called in and supplied the police with the robber`s name and address so they`d nipped round to his house and arrested him. 😀
YouTube has Facebook are presenting many camera views from both sides of that illogical divide. When looking at the people and behaviour I had shown my wife and said, if that was me, I would be embarrassed to show my face and what would my friends think of me. Her reply; they will all be the same mutants and it is considered acceptable. These are not young people. The Celtic fans are clearly goading the remaining Rangers fans and getting a rise from their responses. Why not just leave and offer no responses. These people are the thickest of humanity and it shows how concerned we should be as they were not youngsters either.
Also , if you watch the aftermath of the Hampden riot the interviews from then till now are earily similar of “who is to blame”
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Tue 10 Mar 22:06
I think what they’ll do is fine both clubs for Sunday. They’ll make the old firm matches home fans only and then they’ll tar every fan in Scotland with the same brush, blame alcohol and double down on alcohol sales bans for Peterhead at home to Stenny…
COYP
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Topic Originator: Jock Par36
Date: Tue 10 Mar 22:19
They should make all Celtic and Rangers games
be played behind closed doors for a full season
as a punishment.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Tue 10 Mar 23:07
Used to be a time when fans policed ourselves to stop recriminations happening.
I’ve long thought that any decent Rangers or Celtic fans would be dealing with the ultras in their stadiums.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: OzPar
Date: Wed 11 Mar 04:49
They should ban them both from the cup next year, increase the size of the Scottish Premier League to 16 teams, thus reducing to 2 Old Firm games a season, and, of course, play those games behind closed doors.
There, FIXED IT!
:)
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Wed 11 Mar 06:50
I am interested to know how much will be decided inside and outside of football corridors of power. The police may have more power in these discussions, but the ultimate judge is going to be the politicians if the footballing responses are not strong enough.
Personally I would say a 1 match ban for supporters in either stadium is a reasonable response given the level of incursion to the pitch and hefty fines for both. The sanctions have to be a warning for future conduct with a visible scale of future impacts for further incursions.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 11 Mar 09:35
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 10 Mar 23:07
Used to be a time when fans policed ourselves to stop recriminations happening.
I’ve long thought that any decent Rangers or Celtic fans would be dealing with the ultras in their stadiums.
Not with Celtic and Rangers fans in my long experience - they have a very long track record of disorder - Roy Barry couldn’t parade the cup 1968 due to previous trouble at a Hampden by OF fans.
Celtic fans caused trouble on the terracing at Hampden during the 1961 replay - and they invaded the pitch (from both ends) the following season at Ibrox as St.Mirren were winning 4-0 in a cup semi.
Rangers fans have a bad history likewise.
Post Edited (Wed 11 Mar 09:43)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 11 Mar 10:50
Quote:
veteraneastender, Mon 9 Mar 15:50
Quote:
jake89, Mon 9 Mar 12:58
Quote:
veteraneastender, Mon 9 Mar 12:44
Play their games Sunday 8am - no pubs open before and after kick off.
They`d miss church/chapel though.
Obviously you are not a Tim 🙄
Are you thinking they could still make second mass if they`re quick? 😂
I`m being facetious. None of these guys who follow Rangers/Celtic on religious grounds actually attend religious ceremonies regularly. Certainly not the GROWN MAN screaming "BOOOOOO!" at Celtic players going up the tunnel. I really hope he`s not some poor kids dad.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 11 Mar 12:10
Quote:
jake89, Wed 11 Mar 10:50
Quote:
veteraneastender, Mon 9 Mar 15:50
Quote:
jake89, Mon 9 Mar 12:58
Quote:
veteraneastender, Mon 9 Mar 12:44
Play their games Sunday 8am - no pubs open before and after kick off.
They`d miss church/chapel though.
Obviously you are not a Tim 🙄
Are you thinking they could still make second mass if they`re quick? 😂
I`m being facetious. None of these guys who follow Rangers/Celtic on religious grounds actually attend religious ceremonies regularly. Certainly not the GROWN MAN screaming "BOOOOOO!" at Celtic players going up the tunnel. I really hope he`s not some poor kids dad.
You might be surprised on the Celtic side - I know several, although not trouble makers.
Saturday evening vigil is common in many parishes and Sunday early evening likewise - no problem to those so inclined.
Post Edited (Wed 11 Mar 12:12)
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Wed 11 Mar 12:19
" It’s the vile sectarian singing from both sides"
meanwhile...
"Obviously you are not a Tim"
nope no sectarianism here
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Topic Originator: Aaron Labonte
Date: Wed 11 Mar 12:29
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 11 Mar 12:19
" It’s the vile sectarian singing from both sides"
meanwhile...
"Obviously you are not a Tim"
nope no sectarianism here
Spotted that as well. H*n also written here pretty commonly, admin do nothing about it. Maybe we should have a look at ourselves first ?
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Wed 11 Mar 12:32
No club can take the moral high ground over any other. We have fans who are every bit as bad.
ETA - see our friends from Falkirk have been over around the Lizzie area spray painting already.. “kill Callum Morrison” “see you soon 18/04” & “gate 20” 😂 good to see they’re not arsed about him.
Post Edited (Wed 11 Mar 12:33)
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Wed 11 Mar 17:04
If you want to ban fans from the semi final for entering the field to celebrate then we’ll have no fans either! Although we weren’t as bad as Celtic we still jumped onto the pitch! Celtic fans were celebrating- it was the Rangers fans that actually caused the problem
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Topic Originator: Buster_Brown
Date: Wed 11 Mar 17:14
Quote:
AdamAntsParsStripe, Tue 10 Mar 23:07
Used to be a time when fans policed ourselves to stop recriminations happening.
I’ve long thought that any decent Rangers or Celtic fans would be dealing with the ultras in their stadiums.
I’m not saying you’re wrong here mate, but in a world where fans become abusive, aggressive and threatening when you point out they are sitting in the wrong seat, then it’s understandable why fans (like myself) don’t want to go down the “self policing” route.
I said it in a SNW thread before Christmas, but this will not change until clubs stop taking the cheap option by contracting stewards, many of which are just happy to stand and do nothing, and start paying the price for police to actually police games, IMHO.
Loving You, Is In My DNA 🇾🇪
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 11 Mar 18:03
Quote:
ParfectXI, Wed 11 Mar 17:04
If you want to ban fans from the semi final for entering the field to celebrate then we’ll have no fans either! Although we weren’t as bad as Celtic we still jumped onto the pitch! Celtic fans were celebrating- it was the Rangers fans that actually caused the problem
Are you a Celtic appologist, you obviously havent seen the videos of what went on on Sunday ,both are as bad as each other, and both are a cancer in Scottish football.
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Topic Originator: Parahandy
Date: Wed 11 Mar 18:11
Correct painting Celtic here as an injured party is nonsensical - their provocation lit the blue touch paper. On the alcohol front a simple solution alcohol allowed at all league/cup matches unless the Old Firm are one of the teams
It would be entirely apt as they were the reason for the ban in the first place
Post Edited (Wed 11 Mar 18:12)
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Wed 11 Mar 18:18
Quote:
ParfectXI, Wed 11 Mar 17:04
If you want to ban fans from the semi final for entering the field to celebrate then we’ll have no fans either! Although we weren’t as bad as Celtic we still jumped onto the pitch! Celtic fans were celebrating- it was the Rangers fans that actually caused the problem
If Celtic fans stayed in the stand, would rangers fans have been on the park? I’d argue not a single one would have went on. Not that it’s right, but it wasn’t innocent celebrating.. it was goading and antagonistic. They knew what they were doing. Both sides were as bad as eachother 100%. The balaclavas need banned, ridiculous that they’re allowed entry with them on. Proper searches at the gate not just a quick pat down. Police infront of the sections instead of minimum wage stewards who barely speak English.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 11 Mar 19:42
Have a look at the images of the Brooomloan Stand and try keep a straight face when saying it wasn’t the Celtic fans fault as much as Rangers fans…….
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Thu 12 Mar 07:02
Quote:
Aaron Labonte, Wed 11 Mar 12:29
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 11 Mar 12:19
" It’s the vile sectarian singing from both sides"
meanwhile...
"Obviously you are not a Tim"
nope no sectarianism here
Spotted that as well. H*n also written here pretty commonly, admin do nothing about it. Maybe we should have a look at ourselves first ?
This seems to be a point we’re missing plenty on here. Everyone was happy to jump on the shocking scenes from last week, but we’ve completely brushed over our own fans knocking a steward over and running onto the pitch after every goal against Aberdeen.
The scenes inside and outside Ibrox were diabolical and have deserved all the public criticism they’ve received. My worry is that we’ll see trouble again at the game this weekend, and most definitely against Falkirk.
Given our history, can we really be screaming about other fans’ behaviour without having a bit of a red neck about it?
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 12 Mar 08:26
It has not gone unnoticed that our fans are not innocent when it comes to encroaching on the pitch. On last night`s political programme `Debate Night` on BBC Scotland the scenes at the OF game was the first question. The point was made that OF fans were not the sole offenders and we were cited as another example. Increased publicity from our Cup exploits has its downside apparently.
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Thu 12 Mar 08:35
I don`t think it would be difficult to identify our fans who went on the pitch as it was in front of the cameras. Perhaps we should be proactive before areas of our ground are shut. A ban for these fans for home and away games for the rest of the season would send out a message.
Failing that we will see the same on Saturday and as we have a big end to the season will be a regular occurance
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 12 Mar 08:36
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 11 Mar 12:19
" It’s the vile sectarian singing from both sides"
meanwhile...
"Obviously you are not a Tim"
nope no sectarianism here
I have friends who are Celtic fans. They refer to themselves as Tims and will say "So and so is a good Tim."
Not sure why some folk think that`s a sectarian jibe.
Eta. They also regularly sing "I'm no a Billy, I'm a Tim" at games.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Thu 12 Mar 08:38)
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Thu 12 Mar 09:11
There`s quite a big difference between over exuberant celebrations with a few fans spilling onto the pitch to celebrate with their own players.
vs
Running from one end of the ground to another to start a fight, wrecking the stadium, attacking players, etc.
Re: the posts about face coverings, I noticed one of the police wearing one on Saturday. Made me think of ICE in America!
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 12 Mar 09:15
"I have friends who are Celtic fans. They refer to themselves as Tims and will say "So and so is a good Tim."
Not sure why some folk think that`s a sectarian jibe.
Eta. They also regularly sing "I`m no a Billy, I`m a Tim" at games."
50 cent also gets called "n@gger" by his mates doesnt mean youd get away with shouting that across the street if you seen him passing
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Thu 12 Mar 09:22
Quote:
GG Riva, Thu 12 Mar 08:36
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Wed 11 Mar 12:19
" It’s the vile sectarian singing from both sides"
meanwhile...
"Obviously you are not a Tim"
nope no sectarianism here
I have friends who are Celtic fans. They refer to themselves as Tims and will say "So and so is a good Tim."
Not sure why some folk think that`s a sectarian jibe.
Eta. They also regularly sing "I`m no a Billy, I`m a Tim" at games.
I am confused by modern nomenclature and who can use the terms or phrases. Personally I would never use any terms previously mentioned as they are horrible.
Recently we had the N word being used at the BAFTAs but it is a term I have heard in the used in conversation between one black person and another when in the USA, particularly in New York.
I was in the company of native Americans last year and I was always told by white Americans that using the term Indian is impolite and incorrect yet the Navajos and Havasupai nations used it regularly between each other.
The former is extremely offensive and should never be considered in use, the latter I am confused still now.
So is it ok to use these terms when you are part of that group is my question because that is what I have personally seen. I would like to know from other people if they have the same experience.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 12 Mar 10:20
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Thu 12 Mar 09:15
"I have friends who are Celtic fans. They refer to themselves as Tims and will say "So and so is a good Tim."
Not sure why some folk think that`s a sectarian jibe.
Eta. They also regularly sing "I`m no a Billy, I`m a Tim" at games."
50 cent also gets called "n@gger" by his mates doesnt mean youd get away with shouting that across the street if you seen him passing
I don`t think the two terms are remotely comparable, PuP. The N word is a racially motivated slur. Of course, if it`s used by friends of similar ethnicity, it`s unlikely to cause offence.
Another term used to try and offend Celtic fans is Fenian, but Fenians are just Irish Catholics. Of course, when that is immediately followed by the B word, it takes on a whole new meaning.
For balance, there are also terms intended to cause offence to Rangers fans and all of them are followed by the B word to ensure they do cause offence.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 12 Mar 10:50
Quote:
Jeffery, Thu 12 Mar 09:11
There`s quite a big difference between over exuberant celebrations with a few fans spilling onto the pitch to celebrate with their own players.
vs
Running from one end of the ground to another to start a fight, wrecking the stadium, attacking players, etc.
Re: the posts about face coverings, I noticed one of the police wearing one on Saturday. Made me think of ICE in America!
Fans should stay off the park, it’s that simple.
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Topic Originator: WarringtonPar
Date: Thu 12 Mar 11:47
Quote:
veteraneastender, Thu 12 Mar 10:50
Quote:
Jeffery, Thu 12 Mar 09:11
There`s quite a big difference between over exuberant celebrations with a few fans spilling onto the pitch to celebrate with their own players.
vs
Running from one end of the ground to another to start a fight, wrecking the stadium, attacking players, etc.
Re: the posts about face coverings, I noticed one of the police wearing one on Saturday. Made me think of ICE in America!
Fans should stay off the park, it’s that simple.
💯 Not that difficult is it!
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Thu 12 Mar 12:20
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WarringtonPar, Thu 12 Mar 11:47
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veteraneastender, Thu 12 Mar 10:50
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Jeffery, Thu 12 Mar 09:11
There`s quite a big difference between over exuberant celebrations with a few fans spilling onto the pitch to celebrate with their own players.
vs
Running from one end of the ground to another to start a fight, wrecking the stadium, attacking players, etc.
Re: the posts about face coverings, I noticed one of the police wearing one on Saturday. Made me think of ICE in America!
Fans should stay off the park, it’s that simple.
💯 Not that difficult is it!
All it will lead to is more police at the clubs expense or section closure.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 12 Mar 14:56
"I have friends who are Celtic fans. They refer to themselves as Tims and will say "So and so is a good Tim."
Does being one allow a certain amount of latitude ?
Samuel L Jackson once said that he could use the `N` word....... whereas his non black colleagues couldn`t.
Incidentally GG - not all Fenians were Irish Catholics - several leading figures such as Wolfe Tone, regarded as the founder of Irish Republicanism, likewise Constance Markievicz prominent in the 1916 rising and first woman elected as an MP, standing as a Sinn Fein candidate.
Post Edited (Thu 12 Mar 14:56)
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 12 Mar 15:38
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Jeffery, Thu 12 Mar 09:11
There`s quite a big difference between over exuberant celebrations with a few fans spilling onto the pitch to celebrate with their own players.
vs
Running from one end of the ground to another to start a fight, wrecking the stadium, attacking players, etc.
Re: the posts about face coverings, I noticed one of the police wearing one on Saturday. Made me think of ICE in America!
Celtic fans trashed the electronic advertising boards , while a few had over exuberant celebrations!? .
They knew what would happen when they went on the pitch , which they have got form for doing at other clubs but get away with it.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 12 Mar 15:56
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veteraneastender, Thu 12 Mar 14:56
"I have friends who are Celtic fans. They refer to themselves as Tims and will say "So and so is a good Tim."
Does being one allow a certain amount of latitude ?
I think that`s definitely true, VEE. The same thing can be uttered by different people towards the same person and produce very different results.
Samuel L Jackson once said that he could use the `N` word....... whereas his non black colleagues couldn`t.
That`s an excellent example.
Incidentally GG - not all Fenians were Irish Catholics - several leading figures such as Wolfe Tone, regarded as the founder of Irish Republicanism, likewise Constance Markievicz prominent in the 1916 rising and first woman elected as an MP, standing as a Sinn Fein candidate.
Aye, I meant that the term is generally used to describe Irish Catholics, rather than that it was exclusively for them. It isn`t really an offensive term, any more than say, Papist, or Proddy is, unless the intention is to offend .
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Pars11
Date: Thu 12 Mar 16:38
The SFA do not need to ban Celtic fans from the semi finals. They need to throw Celtic FC out of this year`s contest and ban both Celtic and Rangers from the 26/27 Scottish Cup competition. We all know where this is going though, punishments given out will probably be fines and mostly bound over for good behaviour for 3 years, banning away fans for these clubs meeting in any competition. Remember Police Scotland saw fans on the pitch many wearing masks, many commiting criminal acts yet allowed these same people to return to the stands with very few apprehended.
Bluebell Polka
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Thu 12 Mar 22:52
Celtic interim chairman Brian Wilson has defended the club’s fans after their Scottish Cup win over Rangers at Ibrox.
No surprise Celtic fans completely innocent.
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Fri 13 Mar 09:28
Celtic fans, invaded first, goaded opposite fans, defaced shrine to dead of ibrox disaster, wore mask to cover identities, fly irish flag fought with police, fought with stewards.
Hardly well behaved, all the time the two teams say this they are condoning this behaviour. But we hear this rubbish every time it happens, and nothing changes.
They have to be really honest and do something.
Has the sfa or scottish government stated anything
Oh and before I forget rangers behaviors was similar
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Topic Originator: Aaron Labonte
Date: Fri 13 Mar 09:39
Want them kicked out/banned..... But we will happily take the money from the semi final pot
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Fri 13 Mar 09:46
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Aaron Labonte, Fri 13 Mar 09:39
Want them kicked out/banned..... But we will happily take the money from the semi final pot
The behaviour of both clubs once again impacts on the reputation of the whole Scottish game, so Celtic will be in the other Semifinal, but maybe both clubs should pay reperations to the SFA and SPFL for reputational damage .
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 13 Mar 13:41
SPFL don`t have jurisdiction over Sunday`s debacle, that`s an SFA responsibility.
The physical damage and criminal behaviour at Ibrox far outweighs any perceived notional reputational damage.
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