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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Mon 20 Apr 15:05
I kind of object to the media calling F**kirk our local rivals. Bitter rivals yes, but not really local. Anyway, I remember sitting in the main stand at EEP sometime in the 70s when we lost 2-4 to them and a number of their supporters sitting behind me were discussing the fall of the great Pars sides of the 60s and how sad it was. They genuinely wanted the two teams back to their previous glory and there was absolutely no gloating about their victory. This has maybe be covered on earlier posts which I might have missed, but did this mutual dislike, or even hatred, all start with the tragic loss of Norrie? Sadly, I also remember their disgusting songs afterwards.
Post Edited (Mon 20 Apr 15:09)
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Mon 20 Apr 16:53
It started in early 70’s when Falkirk fans bricked Pars buses at a midweek game at Brokenville.
3rd Round cup game back through there. Revenge. It was carnage. 2-2. First ever game played on a Sunday due to the three day week. Replay was mid week with an early KO. Hardly any fans there. Pars won 1-0. It’s been bitter ever since but certainly exasperated by their reaction to Norries passing.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Mon 20 Apr 16:58
The songs they sang,and hissing noises after Norris death, really turned up the hatred.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 20 Apr 17:04
It`s near impossible to pinpoint an absolute point in time when the rivalry became mutual dislike - well before Norrie`s tragic death.
A couple of games standout in memory - a cup tie at Brockville during the 3 day power crisis (1974 ?) which had to be played on a Sunday - there was a big crowd there and more than a little friction between fans.
Then there was an end of season promotion clash, also before a big crowd at EEP around 1979 (?) when John Salton was injured and Bobby Robertson shifted into centre half - Andy Rolland slotted in a second half penalty for 1-1 and do the business.
I`m sure others can mind similar games which cemented the antagonism.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Mon 20 Apr 17:14
Yeah my first memory of the rivalry was that promotion game at EEP and Andy Rolland but also a year later at Brockville when we equalised in the last minute from a direct corner (Colin O’Brien) only for them to take kick off and score the winner.
At half time both sets of fans had a scrap on the pitch.
It was clear the rivalry went on years before then.
The Norrie thing ignited it even further and I don’t think I’ve seen Pars fans are angry as that day.
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Topic Originator: Bandy
Date: Mon 20 Apr 17:21
"The songs they sang, and hissing noises after Norris death, really turned up the hatred."
This is when is started for me. As I recall (I was pretty young) the atmosphere was particularly poisonous at one cup match shortly after Norrie`s death - hissing noises and pretty vulgar songs. Falkirk won the match as I recall.
The most galling thing was Alex Totten (Falkirk Manager) describing the Falkirk fans that day as `absolutely magnificent`. I don`t recall any form of apology from either Falkirk or Totten.
Falkirk fans of my vintage will tell you it probably started with Pars fans racially abusing Richard Cadette.
There`s poor behaviour from both sides.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 20 Apr 17:21
Also add in that Pars fans have sang songs about Craig Gowans, the Falkirk player that died after being electrocuted and then the Falkirk fans with the eyeballs thrown on for Dean Shiels.
It really does make for a heated rivalry.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 20 Apr 17:44
Not just the fans re Dean Shiels. Two Falkirk players Kevin O’Hara and Joe McKee also took aim at our player and were subsequently banned at the time.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Mon 20 Apr 17:51
It has roots in the 1950s, when both towns had decent ice hockey teams.
One particular match got out of hand, and was abandoned as both teams wouldn`t stop fighting on the ice.
Fighting spread to the fans in the stands, and the rivalry grew from there.
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Topic Originator: Big T Par
Date: Mon 20 Apr 18:16
My dad always said that it stemmed from the ice hockey as well. Always Thought he was waffling a load of nonsense.
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Topic Originator: SusieQ
Date: Mon 20 Apr 18:22
We`re no angels either tho tbh - one of the worst nights as a Pars fan when our support racially abused Richard Cadette at a midweek Brockville match.
I do remember thinking at the time of their gas hissing crap tho that even the Rovers didn`t sink THAT low - Airdire were the others.
They were rivals on the pitch too quite a lot at that time - we both got relegated from the Premier at the same time & battled for the First Division (as it was then) inc the 3 0 Hogmanay game at EEP.
I deffo hate them more than Raith, who I just see as an annoying wee brother!
Do Falkirk hate them too / Fifers in general, or is it us specifically? 🤔
COME ON YE PARS!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 20 Apr 18:34
It wasn`t just Falkirk fans who were vile about Norrie. Airdrie were at it too. Still a horrible club.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Mon 20 Apr 18:56
I remember the game at the game AAPS mentioned. It would have been 1980-81 and I`d have said Kevin Hegarty with the goal from a corner, but I wouldn`t put any money on it and happy to be corrected.
What I do remember more clearly was the trouble at half time. That happened because they went behind the goal to our right for the first half, ie the away end after segregation. Then at half time changed ends and it all kicked off as they made their way through us with it spilling over onto the pitch.
I`ve also heard it said that the rivalry comes from miners strikes and one side hating the other because they scabbed (I`ve heard it both ways round). While I don`t doubt it happened in ice hockey, it doesn`t mean that`s where it started.
As for the guys behind CitizenPar 50+ years ago. There must have been decent fair minded Falkirk fans then just as there are now. No small group, good or bad, characterises the whole support.
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Topic Originator: CitizenPar
Date: Mon 20 Apr 19:16
My late father played for the Vikings junior team, but I don`t remember him ever talking about any rivalries or bad blood. Having said that, I was probably always more interested in his army days than his time playing ice hockey. The things you think of when it`s way too late!
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Topic Originator: Paralex
Date: Mon 20 Apr 20:34
Well, maybe time to "bury the hatchet". We are all Scots after all. They`ll be hurting a bit after we trampled on their glorious season. Both teams have given their fans something to shout about this year. I`m sure Barney Stewart knew the boos aimed at him on Saturday wasn`t a personal slight, just a peculiarity of the circumstances and deep down we all still appreciate his contribution at EEP.
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Topic Originator: kozmasrightfoot
Date: Mon 20 Apr 22:13
I never knew that some Pars fans made fun of that poor electrocuted kid. That fills me with shame even though I wasn`t one of them. Our fans should rise above theirs, not stoop just as low.
I can`t remember F*lkirk fans singing about Garry Riddel (please correct me if I`m wrong), strange that Norrie should trigger the abuse.
Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.
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