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Topic Originator: Parster
Date: Tue 5 May 21:52
Ready to go up on that performance
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Tue 5 May 21:58
Yeah, but it won`t be on that performance.
And even then, we are near, despite tonight`s performance.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Tue 5 May 21:58
We aren’t ready to go up anyway…
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Tue 5 May 22:06
In the unlikely event that we go up, it won`t be that team that starts the first game of next season.
We have a lot of players out of contract and in the event of promotion we have ample opportunities to improve the squad.
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Topic Originator: ParfectXI
Date: Tue 5 May 22:06
Hoolie wrote:
> We aren’t ready to go up anyway…
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Of course we are! If we went up this season - that team tonight would have major changes in its starting lineup! Even as it stands now we are due around £1m in prizes that will go a long way to building a strong premiership side! Even if we come down straight away the parachute payment and prize money for finishing last far outweighs the amount for staying down and going up as champions! That itself would give us a good grounding to go up and stay up the following season!
So to say we aren’t ready is just shortsighted.
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Tue 5 May 22:13
Quote:
Hoolie, Tue 05 May 21:58
We aren’t ready to go up anyway…
What do we need to be ready to go up??
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 5 May 22:19
Quote:
summeragent, Tue 5 May 22:13
Quote:
Hoolie, Tue 05 May 21:58
We aren’t ready to go up anyway…
What do we need to be ready to go up??
Wins over Arbroath, Partick Thistle and whoever ends up second bottom of SPL.
I wouldn’t bet on that.
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Tue 5 May 22:22
Quote:
Parster, Tue 5 May 21:52
Ready to go up on that performance
How about in the 3 performances against actual premiership sides in the last few months?
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Tue 5 May 22:25
We`re better against teams that want to play football.
Arbroath are hammer throwers and didn`t really do much up front. It`s a team we`re needing learn how to combat their style better. I confident we`ll do the job second leg. We have more quality than them.
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Tue 5 May 22:25
Whatever happens it`s still been an excellent season.
Getting into the playoffs is a great effort, but getting to the cup final is something else. I`m thrilled.
Of course it will be tough for us to win the playoffs and the volume of games goes against us, but we were an easy 4th and we can also go up.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Tue 5 May 22:29
They can throw hammers but the can play too and outplayed us for most of the second half. We were very poor second half.
First half we were good and should have been further ahead.
Dunno why we fell out of it so badly but giving the ball away about twenty times certainly did not help.
Very tough game up in Arbroath awaits…
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Tue 5 May 22:33
What chances did they have? How many times did Ox save us? I can think of a goal and two great saves they had to deal with.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Tue 5 May 23:08
Quote:
veteraneastender, Tue 5 May 22:19
Quote:
summeragent, Tue 5 May 22:13
Quote:
Hoolie, Tue 05 May 21:58
We aren’t ready to go up anyway…
What do we need to be ready to go up??
Wins over Arbroath, Partick Thistle and whoever ends up second bottom of SPL.
I wouldn’t bet on that.
I would. We are better than today.
Anyhoo. Why do folk not understand that if we do go up we will build a much stronger team? Do they think we will start the new season with the same squad?
Bizzaar!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 6 May 00:02
It doesn`t take long for negativity to creep back into some fans` minds, does it? A lot of folk seemed to think tonight`s game would be a walk in the park which was surprising considering our respective League positions.
NL said after last Friday`s game that he didn`t think home advantage would be crucial in the play-offs so this Friday`s game will probably be as close as tonight`s was. Our away record is pretty much the same as our home record (26 points at home and 25 away) so we still have a chance.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Wed 6 May 00:12
Absolutely quite happy with the way things are going.Yes,not a great game tonight,but we are one up,and will be up for it on Friday.And oh,we are in a cup final,what’s not to like!
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Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks
Date: Wed 6 May 06:03
Ridiculous thread, played three PL teams this season and haven’t conceded a goal and judging a team put together on a Championship budget and not one built on PL finances is a ultimately not a fair or relevant comparison.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Wed 6 May 06:13
Quote:
Westies squint kicks, Wed 6 May 06:03
Ridiculous thread, played three PL teams this season and haven’t conceded a goal and judging a team put together on a Championship budget and not one built on PL finances is a ultimately not a fair or relevant comparison.
This.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Wed 6 May 07:01
“played three PL teams this season and haven’t conceded a goal”
But in that same sense we’ve played Patrick 4 times this season and looked no where near as good as them I said it since we got near the play offs it’s not second bottom of the prem I’m worried about it’s Patrick
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 6 May 08:29
Got to remember we’re lacking attacking options just now. Kane the only real experienced striker still fit and Tod and morisson getting a game by default as only really cooper to challenge them.
If we get through on Friday I can’t see us getting past Partick, they were miles away from us in the league (15 points). Last season our points tally would not have got into the playoffs!
What last night showed us was even with our strongest 11 were a decent top half championship side but no more than that. Next season with some more quality brought in that’s a step up from who is leaving and hopefully a bit more steel and consistency from the youngsters in the team and we’ll hopefully be closer to the top.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 6 May 09:07
I`m pretty sure Tod would be a starter in any team NL picked regardless of who else was available. It would be bizarre if he wasn`t considering the number of goals and assists he has had this season.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Wed 6 May 09:19
"Got to remember we’re lacking attacking options just now. Kane the only real experienced striker still fit and Tod and morisson getting a game by default as only really cooper to challenge them."
Tod is there because he is playing well - unlike Morrison.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 6 May 09:35
I thought the game last night was as expected. In terms of effort, committment and organisation Arbroath probably deserved something from the game, but its about putting the ball in the net. They looked physically stronger than us and they pressed and closed us down.2nd half they won most second balls. We didnt play well, but you can only play as well as the other team lets you. Friday will be a different game. They have to come out and score 2 goals. A win is important but we could have done with a second. Still all to play for.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 6 May 10:05
I hate to pick at my mates posts but saying Tod is only being picked by default is nonsense
He`s rightly being recognised as one of the best young players in Scotland by pundits and the national teams management.
We`re lucky to have him.
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 6 May 10:10
Quote:
wee eck, Wed 6 May 09:07
I`m pretty sure Tod would be a starter in any team NL picked regardless of who else was available. It would be bizarre if he wasn`t considering the number of goals and assists he has had this season.
This 100%
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Wed 6 May 10:12
Andrew Tod is a quality player who hides under the radar in games but pounces at the right moments.
That’s a sign of a good player who knows the game.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 6 May 10:16
Its how you imact the game as a forward player, so I would put Chris Kane in that category. He got the all important goal.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Wed 6 May 10:59
It`s pretty harsh to say that Tod and Morrison are getting a game by default. It suggests they don`t deserve to be playing when they definitely do.
Tod has had an exceptional season and despite only joining in January, Morrison is only one behind Chris Kane in league goals scored.
A better way of saying it might be to say that it would be good to have options on the bench at their level? Morrison worked hard last night (although I saw Lennon shouting at him to `get in the game` during the first half) but absolutely nothing seemed to come off for him. Players, particularly wider players, sometimes have games like that, it`s why you need 3 or 4 good ones.
It would be good to have a fresh option that could come in for either of them. If for example Olly Thomas was still here then I`m certain he would have started or been subbed on.
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Wed 6 May 11:03
Tod got the BBC MOTM and was lauded by McFadden & Scott Brown. Seen countless posts on X from other Scottish fans desperate for their team to sign Tod. But he’s not good enough for the .net faithful 🤣
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Topic Originator: halbe
Date: Wed 6 May 11:09
Tod is " only getting a game by default"- that just can`t be serious comment.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 6 May 11:21
My Hibee relatives told me at that cup game that they’d be interested in Andy Tod. They (and me) think he’s the bees knees!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 6 May 11:28
Tod literally set up the goal with good work then had two very decent efforts well saved by McAdams……..but aye, he shouldn’t be in the team 🤦🏻♂️
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Topic Originator: 1985Par
Date: Wed 6 May 11:28
Love watching Tod. Something gallus about the way he plays. Great assist last night and stung the palms of the keeper a couple of times from long range.
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Wed 6 May 11:31
Maybe need to clarify here as the usual folk jump to conclusions….but Tod and Morrison are playing as there’s really only cooper as an alternative as we don’t have anyone else and I’m not sure cooper is good enough as rarely trusted to start. Regardless of form these 2 are pretty much always starters, it wasn’t a go at either, it was more a point about lack of options to mix it up a bit.
Post Edited (Wed 06 May 11:34)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 6 May 11:37
Nice try, Berkey, but no cigar!
I could watch our goal all day long - Kane`s sublime dummy, Tod`s inch-perfect pass while falling over and a pin-point finish into the corner!
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Topic Originator: halbe
Date: Wed 6 May 11:44
I get the point about the lack of options up front but wasn`t sure from your comment that you realise just how good a player Andy Tod is. If I was the Arbroath manager he would likely be the player I was most worried about on Friday night.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Wed 6 May 13:10
Andy Tod is far from the finished article, but when the crosses were as poor as some of them last night, I don’t know what people expect.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: saltonsgonagetu
Date: Wed 6 May 17:52
Both Matty Todd and Fraser were below their usual level in terms of crossing and influencing the game .
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Topic Originator: da_no_1
Date: Wed 6 May 18:21
He`s not waving....He`s drowning!
"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Wed 6 May 19:08
Deary me! Tod is widely recognised as one of Scotland`s outstanding young prospects, quite rightly too.
Almost all non Pars fans I know who have seen him for the first time mention him straight away.
It`s his gallus style, very rare, almost a throwback. A rare quality.
Back to the strikers....how many `we need another striker` comments do we need. Once again. Who? We`ve already signed up a whole load, it`s just that Rudden is injured, the others (the Sutherland`s, Young etc) are either miles off the standard or still to progress.
We have Tod, Kane and Cooper 3 quality players. Morrison, well he has scored a goal every 2 games .
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 6 May 19:50
There are a number of players who have never been in the position we are in now. Even Beme with his years in the game. The pressure on the players is very high, particularly the younger ones. Some such as A Todd and M Todd have a great expectation on their shoulders to score goals. Does the club engage a sports psychologist. If not, it strikes me there would be some benefit in this to better enable the players to deal with the anxiety that may come with the pressure and expectation.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Stanza
Date: Wed 6 May 22:29
It is of course possible that one or more of our players will let the occasion get them. Sadly I remember the League Cup final against Hibs, when that seemed to happen to the whole team.
But in a funny way I wonder if the youth of several players and the foreign background of a couple might actually serve us well - they haven`t had 56 years of disappointment and may not feel the pressure as much as fans do.
If Lennon can get them just to think about the match and what they can do, and NOT the occasion or the quality of the opposition, then that may be as much as we can hope for.
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Topic Originator: NMCmassive
Date: Wed 6 May 23:04
If we somehow manage to get through the playoffs we’d definitely deserve to be promoted. I would also suspect we’d add 7/8 players at least to the squad for the premier league.
Andy Tod is still a good youngster. I really think he needs to learn how to be more influential on a game more consistently. He’s sometimes to easily brushed aside or goes through spells of doing absolutely nothing. I don’t think that will cut it as you move up the football pyramid. His work rate looks better than earlier in the season, he’s improved over the season over all as a player to me 🤷🏻♂️
COYP
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Topic Originator: Berry
Date: Wed 6 May 23:12
I was disappointed after the game, particularly the showing in the second half but just generally throughout the game, at times we were deliberately slow in getting the ball back into play from goal kicks, throw ins, no real urgency.
For me it was more a missed opportunity to be more comfortable, after scoring so early and the chances we created in the first half, I thought we’d go on and try and kill the tie off, to allow us to consider resting the odd player or two for Partick.
But second half, I know their keeper made some good saves, but for me Arbroath were much better.
Credit to them though, showing why they finished third and how they didn’t fold after conceding so early is testament to them.
So it does make Gayfield a more nerve inducing trip than I hoped but Lennon has proven he knows how to win important games and we’ve got a good record of scoring through there so I’m hoping I’m back at EEP next Tuesday.
Post Edited (Wed 06 May 23:14)
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 7 May 08:05
I think its fair to say finishing 4th the odds are stacked against you. This is more so given we are in the Scottish Cup final. For me the cup is where we have a better chsnce of winning instead of trying to navigate the playoffs. Eother way its been a very successful season.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Thu 7 May 08:07
Arbroath have only lost a game by more than one goal twice since we beat them 5-0.
Anyone looking for us to win so comfortably that we could rest players on Friday was setting themselves for a big disappointment.
Thistle didn`t beat them in 4 attempts, which is quite the achievement of you look at their record at Firhill.
We played well in the first half and they came back at us in the 2nd. Overall though, a win was a good result.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Thu 7 May 09:43
we play better football against teams that want to play football. The 2nd half on tuesday was a scrappy niggly stop/start game where neither team could get any flow.
We at times are too deliberate in our play must do pass 1/2/3/4 but the times we do 1/2/4 and change the tempo to create openings and more space we are much more of a threat. doing that every phase of play however becomes predictable.
watching Kane you can see he is levels above in terms of reading of the game and would still be at higher level if his body was able.
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Thu 7 May 13:00
Quote:
Playup_Pompey, Thu 7 May 09:43
we play better football against teams that want to play football. The 2nd half on tuesday was a scrappy niggly stop/start game where neither team could get any flow.
We at times are too deliberate in our play must do pass 1/2/3/4 but the times we do 1/2/4 and change the tempo to create openings and more space we are much more of a threat. doing that every phase of play however becomes predictable.
watching Kane you can see he is levels above in terms of reading of the game and would still be at higher level if his body was able.
I feel like Kane has eventually found his way into the team by default due to lack of other options. I think if Rudden or Thomas had remained fit we’d be using him less frequently and he wouldn’t have built his fitness to the levels they are at now. I’m glad he is playing, because like you say, his experience is a level above and having him fit and playing is our best chance of promotion. He is up there with the best all round strikers in the division and he is a perfect foil for Tod.
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