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 **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: 13en  
Date:   Fri 15 May 21:44

Enough said
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Fri 15 May 21:52

Thought they were playing tomorrow? What you on about?
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Fri 15 May 21:52

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Parfect69, Fri 15 May 21:52

Thought they were playing tomorrow? What you on about?


Oxborough playing today would have made a difference
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: 13en  
Date:   Fri 15 May 21:54

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DBA, Fri 15 May 21:52

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Parfect69, Fri 15 May 21:52

Thought they were playing tomorrow? What you on about?


Oxborough playing today would have made a difference


100% both goals Billy is at fault
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Dave_1885  
Date:   Fri 15 May 21:56

Rules need looked at, plain and simple. Shouldn’t be able to recall on loan goalies to cover your injured ones. Especially if it means them missing important games.
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Fri 15 May 21:56

Why didn’t they recall him yesterday. I do t blame Terrel. I do t blame anyone. We have got to semi final and a cup final on a paper thin squad. Partick deserve it in the end. Or we would have finished 2nd instead of 4th.

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: arpar  
Date:   Fri 15 May 21:58

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Dave_1885, Fri 15 May 21:56

Rules need looked at, plain and simple. Shouldn’t be able to recall on loan goalies to cover your injured ones. Especially if it means them missing important games.


The rules make it more likely that you will get that kind of player on loan. If that clause didn`t exist would Motherwell just have kept him and not loaned him out in the first place?
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Hoolie  
Date:   Fri 15 May 21:59

1 goal but defence needs to be on track.
Hes 22 year old and chucked into a big play off so play off the lad…

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: thebear  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:01

Motherwell need to be officially sanctioned
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:04

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thebear, Fri 15 May 22:01

Motherwell need to be officially sanctioned


For what ? He’s their player.
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Bandy  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:04

Blaming Terrell for the first goal is beyond harsh.

Makes a guid save, gets confused - I think the ref would have given a pass back so he tries to clear on his weak foot, ball hits Samuel - could`ve gone anywhere - and it couldn`t have landed more perfectly for Chalmers.

Second goal - it`s a weird one. We all stopped and didn`t play to the whistle. It`s a guid ball into the dangerzone, Terrell either stays back and Samuel gets a free shot, or tries to come - he ends up in no mans land and Samuel finishes well.

Arguably his starting position could have been further forward, but once the perfect ball was played it was Catch 22
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Jeffery  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:05

They can recall whenever they like. He`s their player.

Listened to a podcast a week or so ago called something like `Motherwell: The Scottish Premiership kingmakers` all about how they`d have a huge say in the premiership title race. Well they`ve also had a huge say in the championship playoffs....
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: usurpar  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:16

Very harsh to blame Billy for those goals, especially the second when the ref should have stopped play with Stanway? still down in the penalty area. I think NL will have something to say about that.

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Kdy Par  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:18

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Jeffery, Fri 15 May 22:05

They can recall whenever they like. He`s their player.

Listened to a podcast a week or so ago called something like `Motherwell: The Scottish Premiership kingmakers` all about how they`d have a huge say in the premiership title race. Well they`ve also had a huge say in the championship playoffs....


They can’t recall him when they want. Only in an emergency and for 7 days and only if they have an injury.
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:39

Exactly
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Parfect69  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:40

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General Zod, Fri 15 May 21:56

Why didn’t they recall him yesterday. I do t blame Terrel. I do t blame anyone. We have got to semi final and a cup final on a paper thin squad. Partick deserve it in the end. Or we would have finished 2nd instead of 4th.


This
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: 13en  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:40

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Bandy, Fri 15 May 22:04

Blaming Terrell for the first goal is beyond harsh.

Makes a guid save, gets confused - I think the ref would have given a pass back so he tries to clear on his weak foot, ball hits Samuel - could`ve gone anywhere - and it couldn`t have landed more perfectly for Chalmers.

Second goal - it`s a weird one. We all stopped and didn`t play to the whistle. It`s a guid ball into the dangerzone, Terrell either stays back and Samuel gets a free shot, or tries to come - he ends up in no mans land and Samuel finishes well.

Arguably his starting position could have been further forward, but once the perfect ball was played it was Catch 22


First goal he is 100% at fault. It’s his clearance that hits the first man? Second goal he’s neither coming or going he’s in no mans land and his positioning is that poor Samuel flicks a header near post
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:48

I`ve never seen a keeper with such a poor understanding of when to come out and when to stay, he`s done it all season

I said it on the other thread already but you can only use the excuse of being young and learning for so long, he`s young... ish, he`s older than the Partick keeper tonight & the St J keeper that won the league this season.

It`s basic stuff he lacks. He`s a bombscare.



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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Fri 15 May 22:49

What was to stop ox, playing at Motherwell tomorrow,if need be,and us tonight?
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: arpar  
Date:   Fri 15 May 23:12

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twin par, Fri 15 May 22:49

What was to stop ox, playing at Motherwell tomorrow,if need be,and us tonight?


He is not allowed to play for 2 clubs in the same match weekend.
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Fri 15 May 23:12

they wouldnt want to risk an injury tonight but maybe it was a rules/time thing and with early kick offs tomorrow it had to be done today.

will be even more frustrating when he is sitting on the bench though!

on Terrell, know he signed a new deal at the start of the year but i wont be surprised if he moves on this summer.

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: twin par  
Date:   Fri 15 May 23:27

That is really annoying!
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 15 May 23:31

In his post-match press conference on COWS NL says he only found out yesterday that Ox wouldn`t be available for tonight`s game. He`s not one to mince his words and said he hoped Billy would have performed better than he did.

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: parsfan97  
Date:   Fri 15 May 23:39

If anyone doesn’t think the keeper is at fault for the first goal, then they’d be best to give up watching football. He literally just needs to clear it and can’t even manage that

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: DBP  
Date:   Fri 15 May 23:50

I’m with the OP, I’ve went from a few weeks ago hoping Motherwell would get involved in the league challenge and actually win the thing, to tonight, now really hoping they go out of business and die!

Might be extreme to some but for me, they’ve burnt any bridges and goodwill; f-them all

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: DunPar  
Date:   Sat 16 May 02:21

I agree with General Zod as well. Partick finished 15 points ahead of us. Play-offs need a rethink. Second top should be rewarded with playoff with second bottom from league above. Simple as.

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: par-4-life  
Date:   Sat 16 May 02:48

GK is at fault for both goals unfortunately. He made some good saves but ultimately lack of game time has hit hard, if he had been playing regularly I don’t think he makes these errors

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: General Zod  
Date:   Sat 16 May 05:15

Let’s look at things slightly differently. If Amade had cleared the ball on Tuesday and last night then maybe we would be through. We definitely wouldn’t be blaming the GK anyway. Why is nobody on Amade’s case?

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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Sacktheref69  
Date:   Sat 16 May 06:58

The thing that really got on my nerves last night was that, after the poor kick for the first goal (which wasn’t an isolated incident, as his kicking was poor most of the night) we still insisted on passing it back to him. Surely someone on our bench had to get the word onto the pitch to clear it ourselves instead of passing it back to a struggling keeper.

This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: SusieQ  
Date:   Sat 16 May 08:13

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General Zod, Sat 16 May 05:15

Let’s look at things slightly differently. If Amade had cleared the ball on Tuesday and last night then maybe we would be through. We definitely wouldn’t be blaming the GK anyway. Why is nobody on Amade’s case?


Remember thinking to myself that we needed to protect the keeper better than that - he`d just made a great save. Help him out ffs instead of putting him back in danger / under pressure 🤔


COME ON YE PARS!
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 16 May 08:30

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Parfect69, Fri 15 May 22:40

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General Zod, Fri 15 May 21:56

Why didn’t they recall him yesterday. I do t blame Terrel. I do t blame anyone. We have got to semi final and a cup final on a paper thin squad. Partick deserve it in the end. Or we would have finished 2nd instead of 4th.


This


They did recall Ox yesterday, Lennon knew it was happening.
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: DunfyDave  
Date:   Sat 16 May 08:32

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Jealous Furniture, Fri 15 May 22:48

I`ve never seen a keeper with such a poor understanding of when to come out and when to stay, he`s done it all season

I said it on the other thread already but you can only use the excuse of being young and learning for so long, he`s young... ish, he`s older than the Partick keeper tonight & the St J keeper that won the league this season.

It`s basic stuff he lacks. He`s a bombscare.



^^^ Have to agree with JF

Terrell came out of early a few times and got his position all wrong. This needs addressed. You can see the nervousness and doubt in his actions.

On a positive note, he is a good stopper of the ball and extremely brave going down to the ball when PT had a few 1 on 1`s with the keeper to beat

I would have preferred Big Ox in goal but it is what it is and in my opinion PT thoroughly deserved their win on the night.

We, at least, have something to look forward to next weekend and next season 🙏

DunfyDave
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Sat 16 May 08:44

If Motherwell didn’t give us Ox in the first place we wouldn’t have got as far as we did to be fair.

Is what it is - onto Saturday.
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 16 May 09:04

I don`t feel any anger towards Motherwell. It`s frustrating that they can find 2 keepers they think are better than Oxborough and Oxborough himself yet we`re left scrabbling around in the summer with only Mehmet as our only signed keeper.

You can tell Lennon was raging inside at what happened but was keeping a lid on it for obvious reasons.

Surely to god this gets addressed as a priority in the close season.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: **** Motherwell
Topic Originator: par_33  
Date:   Sat 16 May 09:24

Personally if I was Aston I’d be slightly peeved off about the situation too, yeah he’ll know he should be back for the cup final. But last night arguably is just as big, a real chance for a promotion push and him watching Terrell’s performance will make him think I could’ve made a difference and put myself on show.

He has a year left at Motherwell, but if I was him after the cup final I’d be chucking in a transfer request. Whether he ends back up with us next season, that remains to be seen but we should try our upmost to get him. But he’s much better than 2nd/3rd choice at Motherwell. So should have no problem finding a club.

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