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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sat 16 May 16:57
Not sure NL will mix it up but there’s a case for freshening it up but limited options, there is however also a case for experienced heads.
For me Morrisons energy and busyness beats Kearney to a starting place.
I would go with 4 2 3 1
(Hopefully) OX
Mullen. J Tod Ngwenya. Fraser
Abdulai. Amade
Morrison. Gilmour A Tod
Kane
Subs
Hamilton
Oakley Booth
Kearney
M Todd
Cooper
Bene
Fyfe
Post Edited (Sat 16 May 18:00)
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Sat 16 May 17:13
Ox
Todd JCM Abdulai Ngwenya Fraser
Gilmour Hamilton
Tod Morrison
Kane
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 16 May 17:21
I can see it being 3-5-1-1:
-------------------------Oxborough------------------------
---------Chilokoa-Mullen J Tod Ngwenya--------
Todd --------------------------------------------------Fraser
----------------Amade Abdulai Gilmour---------------
------------------------A Tod-----------------------------------
‐---------------------------------Kane--------------------------
I`m not sure about Nuru in midfield but Lennon seems to like him in there for physically. We need to be running at their defence where possible, as they look suspect and their keeper is a bit dodgy. Set pieces could he huge so I hope we`ve got some plans for them.
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Sat 16 May 17:32
Celtic are not physical in midfield. We need Nuru’s pace at the back to counter Maeda
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net
Date: Sat 16 May 17:36
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 16 May 17:32
Celtic are not physical in midfield. We need Nuru’s pace at the back to counter Maeda
Or to put the wee diving ***** In row z and actually give him something to roll around for
That carry on at Celtic park today as made me want us take a bit of every single one of their players on the way to beating them
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Topic Originator: BlackLight
Date: Sat 16 May 18:05
Celtic have been awful for most of the season, but they can be scary when they get it together.
I think you have to select for pace at the back. A back 3 that can switch to a 5 makes sense. I think you have to have JCM, Nuru and Kieran in there. I`d consider John Tod as a wide option with Fraser as the other one.
It has to be Gilmour and Amade in the middle for me.
I`d start Cooper ahead of Morrison though. It`s 50/50 whether Morrison is a threat or a headless chicken.
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Topic Originator: neilholland999
Date: Sat 16 May 18:25
I`d argue that Morrison is much more of a nuisance and has a higher workrate than Cooper, so I`m not sure that would be a good swap
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Topic Originator: Lucho_8
Date: Sat 16 May 18:33
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Sat 16 May 17:32
Celtic are not physical in midfield. We need Nuru’s pace at the back to counter Maeda
they always have plenty bodies in midfield though.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sun 17 May 09:03
McGregor is the influential playmaker in Celtic`s midfield, he needs to be nullified if possible.
Maeda is obviously an ever present threat - and after watching yesterday`s highlights Iheanacho also.
If Celtic bring their "A" game to hampden the Pars have a big challenge ahead of them - lets`s hope we are up to it and they have a bad day at the office.
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Topic Originator: Bertie Paton
Date: Sun 17 May 09:41
``I`d start Cooper ahead of Morrison though``
Nae chance. Cooper hides and doesn`t get involved in games. Morrison has great workrate and can be a pain for defenders. I think Morrison is a far better option.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 17 May 11:18
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Sun 17 May 09:41
``I`d start Cooper ahead of Morrison though``
Nae chance. Cooper hides and doesn`t get involved in games. Morrison has great workrate and can be a pain for defenders. I think Morrison is a far better option.
Original poster has got to be on the wind up
Post Edited (Sun 17 May 11:19)
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Sun 17 May 13:07
Got to keep Morrison in for this one purely for his workrate in protecting his full or wing back. Depending on the formation we go with you have to find a place for Abdulai.
I’m sure those that think Tod can do no wrong will attack this, but I’d drop Tod for this one too and maybe for Abdulai, tod’s he’s had a great season in terms of getting on the end of crosses etc but this is a national cup final against the Scottish champions, he’ll barely get near the ball if he starts, wont trouble anyone physically and we need to at least try and keep hold of the ball when we do get it. His time will come I’m sure.
Apart from that we can’t do anything else, just keep it tight and stay in the game as long as we can and hope to get something on the break.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: FA1968
Date: Sun 17 May 18:24
It is a very fair point Berkey, not sure he will be left out, he has made a decent contribution at times this season but too in frequent to be considered an automatic pick.
His time will come
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Topic Originator: Geordiepar
Date: Sun 17 May 19:05
Which is why he was second top scorer in the league and nominated for Championship player of the year.
Will rightly be one of the first names in the team sheet
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Topic Originator: Parfect69
Date: Sun 17 May 19:12
Nuru in midfielder gives me the fear. Get him in the back line where he is very good
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 17 May 19:15
What`s Berkey`s game plan? Not to score but hang on for penalties? I don`t think anyone believes Andrew Tod can do no wrong but most fair-minded fans think he does more right than wrong. It`s obvious NL rates him and sees him as somebody who can produce something special. It`s hard to imagine him excluding him from the starting line-up.
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Sun 17 May 19:21
I like Kelty par line up, as it’s open to a lot of flexibility and lets Tod and Mullen drift forward and midfield auto drop in.
We know trusty hates a physical battle so Kane should be fine occupying him, although he is poor on the ball. Stopping mcgregor is a must although clearly not at his best. Celtic are vulnerable, but usually have a spell in the game where they could be unplayable.
Maeda is the obvious danger for however long he plays, never stops, but we shouldn’t be caught out as I’m sure Lennon will have well warned with him around
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Sun 17 May 20:44
Quote:
Bertie Paton, Sun 17 May 09:41
``I`d start Cooper ahead of Morrison though``
Nae chance. Cooper hides and doesn`t get involved in games. Morrison has great workrate and can be a pain for defenders. I think Morrison is a far better option.
Morrison got found out big time in the semi final and would be a huge mistake to play him in the final.
He doesn’t have the pace to take on a full back and his final deliveries are very poor.
Having bags of energy is fine against mediocre opponents but not vs Celtic.
Cooper is the more intelligent option who can counter Matty Todd in delivering balls into the box.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Mon 18 May 00:15
Morrison for me, huge workmate, but few goals, but still scores a few.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Mon 18 May 07:21
Quote:
wee eck, Sun 17 May 19:15
What`s Berkey`s game plan? Not to score but hang on for penalties? I don`t think anyone believes Andrew Tod can do no wrong but most fair-minded fans think he does more right than wrong. It`s obvious NL rates him and sees him as somebody who can produce something special. It`s hard to imagine him excluding him from the starting line-up.
In fairness, he has been poor recently. That was evident when Kane went off we had no threat until John Tod came on. Yes, they were feeding off scraps.
We’ve been fortunate that he’s had the season he has. I’m sure if someone had told us that Andy Tod would be our top goalscorer, they’d have been laughed at.
He’s not as bad as Berkey sometimes makes out, but he also hasn’t been up to much recently. That being said, I’d still prefer him to anyone on the bench.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Mon 18 May 09:08
I`m not sure `fortune` has anything to do with it. We`re constantly told young players lack consistency but for some reason AT is expected to defy this. We`re constantly told he`s not fit enough and lacks effort yet he`s seldom subbed. I`m sure if we had more options up front he would have been used more sparingly. His assist in the play-offs against Arbroath was crucial but seems to have been forgotten already. Folk should give the lad a break.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Mon 18 May 09:24
Quote:
wee eck, Mon 18 May 09:08
I`m not sure `fortune` has anything to do with it. We`re constantly told young players lack consistency but for some reason AT is expected to defy this. We`re constantly told he`s not fit enough and lacks effort yet he`s seldom subbed. I`m sure if we had more options up front he would have been used more sparingly. His assist in the play-offs against Arbroath was crucial but seems to have been forgotten already. Folk should give the lad a break.
Agree Wee Eck. I think in a perfect world he would have been used more sparingly to incrementally develop him and manage injuries, mental and physical tiredness etc better.
The final will be a tough endeavour for sure. Its about being up for the challenge, living in the moment and when you leave the pitch win or lose making sure you have given a full account of yourself. Its a big pitch, there will be alot of running, so I would anticipate a contribution from the whole squad
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 18 May 09:36
As much as its "focus on your own game", Hearts (and various others) have nulified celtic by sitting someone on Mcgregor. Id use hamilton for that and leave Scales/trust on the ball to bring out from the back, they are slow in possession and easily get 200-300 passes each which are short 5-10 yard 1-2s with midfield dropping in or full backs.
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Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture
Date: Mon 18 May 14:08
Morrison starts, 100%, it isn`t even up for debate imo
We`ve went 5 at the back and 3 up front in all of the games against Prem teams so far, I think it`ll be the same again.
I know there`s an idea that we should play an extra midfielder since it`s Celtic but I`m not sure. I can only remember us doing that once this season, when the Rovers beat us 2-0.
I`d be surprised if it`s anything other than what generally everyone agrees is our best XI:
Ox
Fraser
Mullen
Abdulai
Ngwenya
Todd
Amade
Gilmour
Morrison
Kane
Tod
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Topic Originator: Kdy Par
Date: Mon 18 May 14:57
Quote:
Jealous Furniture, Mon 18 May 14:08
Morrison starts, 100%, it isn`t even up for debate imo
We`ve went 5 at the back and 3 up front in all of the games against Prem teams so far, I think it`ll be the same again.
I know there`s an idea that we should play an extra midfielder since it`s Celtic but I`m not sure. I can only remember us doing that once this season, when the Rovers beat us 2-0.
I`d be surprised if it`s anything other than what generally everyone agrees is our best XI:
Ox
Fraser
Mullen
Abdulai
Ngwenya
Todd
Amade
Gilmour
Morrison
Kane
Tod
That’ll be the team, no doubt in my mind.
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Topic Originator: DJAS
Date: Mon 18 May 16:00
That’s the team I think it will be too
Predictor league winner 2012/2013
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Topic Originator: thebear
Date: Tue 19 May 01:23
Nl did state recently that rudden has been training, possibly subs bench?
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Tue 19 May 02:11
Quote:
Jealous Furniture, Mon 18 May 14:08
Morrison starts, 100%, it isn`t even up for debate imo
We`ve went 5 at the back and 3 up front in all of the games against Prem teams so far, I think it`ll be the same again.
I know there`s an idea that we should play an extra midfielder since it`s Celtic but I`m not sure. I can only remember us doing that once this season, when the Rovers beat us 2-0.
I`d be surprised if it`s anything other than what generally everyone agrees is our best XI:
Ox
Fraser
Mullen
Abdulai
Ngwenya
Todd
Amade
Gilmour
Morrison
Kane
Tod
Be very surprised if we don’t line up like this…
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Tue 19 May 02:17
Celtic play 4-3-3 so he could well go with a back four
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
Post Edited (Tue 19 May 02:18)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 19 May 06:44
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Tue 19 May 02:17
Celtic play 4-3-3 so he could well go with a back four
Think he will go a back 5 to try nullify Maeda and Nygrens threats. Stick Gilmour or Amade on McGregor the full game. Leave Trusty and Scales on the ball and press wide on Johnston and Tierney.
Keep it simple when we have it and try to pick up 2nd balls.
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Topic Originator: Parsdaft21346327964
Date: Tue 19 May 07:33
What formation you playing Dave since the only time we play a 5 at the back we only use 2 cms so if you then want to stick on on mcgregor then that leaves 1 in the middle of the park against their 2 cms
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Tue 19 May 10:43
If Morrison plays, when he is presented with a goal scoring opportunity, he will need to be composed and focussed and concentrate on hitting the target. We wont get many opportunities and at this level we must be clinical.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: summeragent
Date: Tue 19 May 12:08
Quote:
Connor560, Sat 16 May 17:13
Ox
Todd JCM Abdulai Ngwenya Fraser
Gilmour Hamilton
Tod Morrison
Kane
I prefer this line up. I like Tod but think he lacks experience for this game. Shame we don’t have Turley as like his grit and commitment.
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