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 Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Thu 6 Aug 20:34

Oxborough and Rudden injury doubts.

We certainly don’t have much luck on the goalkeeping front the past year or so do we ?

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Indiapar1  
Date:   Thu 6 Aug 21:41

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desparado, Thu 6 Aug 20:34

Oxborough and Rudden injury doubts.

We certainly don’t have much luck on the goalkeeping front the past year or so do we ?


I suppose these things happen unfortunately, but shows the importance of a strong squad. Hopefully they will be fit for what will be a tough game.

I think what stood out for me in the interview was how much NL enjoys being at the club. Last season was great. I do feel we are in a stronger position this year so hopefully we can build on that and finish higher up in the league.

G Wardrope

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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Jealous Furniture  
Date:   Thu 6 Aug 22:38

Nightmare if Ox doesn`t play, I really don`t rate the other 2 keepers at this stage, although maybe Dibaga will be better when he gets fit.

Maybe Rudden being out makes it easier to have an extra midfielder on, which by the sound of it we could`ve done with against ICT. Shaw and A Tod up front with Corbally in behind, Gilmour & Amade further back?

I know Andy Tod is supposed to be a player that plays off the strikers but we can`t give up a midfielder to accommodate that every week. I think eventually he`s going to have to be a striker or a wide player in our kind of team.

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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Thu 6 Aug 22:41

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Jealous Furniture, Thu 6 Aug 22:38

Nightmare if Ox doesn`t play, I really don`t rate the other 2 keepers at this stage, although maybe Dibaga will be better when he gets fit.

Maybe Rudden being out makes it easier to have an extra midfielder on, which by the sound of it we could`ve done with against ICT. Shaw and A Tod up front with Corbally in behind, Gilmour & Amade further back?

I know Andy Tod is supposed to be a player that plays off the strikers but we can`t give up a midfielder to accommodate that every week. I think eventually he`s going to have to be a striker or a wide player in our kind of team.


I’ve really not been impressed with Andy Tod recently. Kane has to start for me.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 00:05

What exactly are the fans` expectations of Andrew Tod? He`s already our top scorer and he hit the post from around 25 yards last week with the keeper nowhere near it. He`s still only 20 I think. Isn`t he allowed to make mistakes?

Btw, when NL was going through the injury list in his preview he didn`t mention Connor Young. Good to hear Abdulai will be back in training next week though.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: DBA  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 00:11

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wee eck, Fri 7 Aug 00:05

What exactly are the fans` expectations of Andrew Tod? He`s already our top scorer and he hit the post from around 25 yards last week with the keeper nowhere near it. He`s still only 20 I think. Isn`t he allowed to make mistakes?.


This.

Tod is one of the very few players we have that can score from nothing. We`re lucky to have him.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 08:40

All I’m saying is latter end of last season and even the start of this one, he has been off the boil and not as influential and at the standard we know he can reach (thinking about it, was noticeable for me after the Scotland call up).

That was some strike at ICT, but he didn’t do anything of note for the other 90mins he was on, same as all our attack really with exception to Kane.

He’s missed some good opportunities, twice this season I recall him in a great position to take the ball with a reluctance to use his left foot which had he done could have had at least another goal in his back pocket.

Not sure if it’s just his running style as well but it comes across that his efforts to try and retrieve the ball back isn’t where it should be.

Whether he’s 20 or 38 doesn’t really matter for me, yeah he’s young and has more development in him, will make mistakes but I just assess on what I see regardless of age.

Rudden for example, he’s been poor as well, getting himself in the right positions at times, work rate is high but his finishing needs to be more clinical and he can’t hold a ball up, easily taken off it as was evident at ICT. Morrison another experienced one but bar maybe one or two games has been a really poor signing.

Anyway, if Ox is out then that is a big blow, important game this weekend given we have Livvy away next league fixture so getting 3 points on Saturday is really needed.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Lucho_8  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 08:48

You would think he was 40 not 20 with his level of work rate
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Sacktheref69  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 08:52

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Lucho_8, Fri 7 Aug 08:48

You would think he was 40 not 20 with his level of work rate


Tod? That is a wild statement. He’s not the fastest, but to question his work rate is genuinely mind blowing.

This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Bannockburn Par  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 08:57

Tod does a lot of good work off the ball and is still developing. Personally thought he looks good in that role behind the front two. It’s still early season, so plenty time for him too shine.

Ox missing is a massive blow.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 09:07

With all these passengers in the team it`s a wonder we managed to make the play-offs and the Cup final last season. As far as Tod`s concerned, maybe he preserves his effort until it really matters. He`s scored 4 goals in 5 games so far and I think for two of the them he actually started the moves that lead to the goals. The way players are monitored now I`m sure the manager would be telling him to up his game if he wasn`t happy with his effort but he rarely subs him.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 09:09

Was a reason given for Ox? It looked like he had done his left calf on Saturday.... frustratingly I think it was when he was going down behind the goal for the ball. Thank God he didnt go off on Saturday!

Oh, and as for Tod, I do think his running style has a part to play. He does a lot.... rather him than someone who fires around non stop but produces no end product.

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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 09:40

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wee eck, Fri 7 Aug 09:07

With all these passengers in the team it`s a wonder we managed to make the play-offs and the Cup final last season. As far as Tod`s concerned, maybe he preserves his effort until it really matters. He`s scored 4 goals in 5 games so far and I think for two of the them he actually started the moves that lead to the goals. The way players are monitored now I`m sure the manager would be telling him to up his game if he wasn`t happy with his effort but he rarely subs him.


You do have an amusing habit of picking up on people who have some criticism and taking it to extreme levels don’t you.

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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 09:56

It`s a matter of opinion whose criticism is `extreme`. Glad you`re amused though.

For Ipswichpar`s info, NL said Ox was suffering from a thigh problem and would be assessed today.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 09:58

There was one or two looks between Ox and the other keepers and AC on Saturday in the warm up as if he was nursing something but you’d never have guessed in the game.

I said on another thread on Saturday in regards to A.Tod it may be we have to accept he’s going to disappear in games and then produce something of quality that ultimately makes a difference. I get why folk are frustrated with it and it is definitely a point for debate on whether he produces the quality often enough to be forgiven the quiet spells. (That’s not my opinion merely the cusp of the argument).
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Berry  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 10:00

I really rate Tod but shouldn’t be devoid of constructive criticism, I think playing behind the front two will be a good position for him.

He’s not been at the levels he has shown recently, which is a compliment in a way because we know the heights he can reach.

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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 10:07

Thanks wee eck and WSKs for the information/insight.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Indiapar1  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 10:46

A Tod is a natural goalscorer. No doubt he attracts more attention on the park from the opposition. He is still young so add to the mix inconsisrency. Last season he played alot of games so fatigue small knocks add to the equation. He is human so has good days and bad days. If you play gokf, you know what thats like! I think its important not to set too high expectations of him. I am sure he has his own expectations. The acid test is whether I prefer he plays for us or someone else. I know what my answer would be.

G Wardrope

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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 10:56

Started off about keepers and now AT’s work rate being questioned.
Apart from maybe Robbie Fraser I am pretty sure AT covers more ground most games than anyone else.

He may have had a quiet game or two but he has still started the season well, scored 3… I think and it should have been 4 with that strike at ICT.

He would be in my team every week.

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: GJS93  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 11:16

“Connor Young had a scan,” explained Lennon. “He’s got a bit of a stomach problem, so we’re trying to get to the bottom of it, if it’s a hernia or not.

“He’s picked up a few injuries, a glute and a thigh, so he’s not really got his pre-season or his season going yet.

“So, he’s being assessed over the next week as well.”

Courier/Dunfermline Press

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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 13:56

In all the time I’ve watched Andrew Tod, I’ve never thought to myself he’s not giving his all.
His qualities are clear for everyone to see and you don’t need to run about like a headless chicken when you have that quality.
What people see as ‘hiding away’ is exactly what good players do because they still produce the goods.
The greats like Messi and Ronaldo classic examples.

Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: red-star-par  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 20:59

It`s clear the folk wading in on young Andrew Tod in this thread couldn`t tell their @rse from their elbow. He does have an unusual running style but that shouldn`t be confused as being lazy. Second top scorer in the division last year after a Hearts bound striker playing for the league winners, already tickled the twine four times by August.

I said it after the first few times I seen him as a 17 year old, he will be our first million pound plus transfer and he will play for Scotland
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 Re: Ayr on Saturday
Topic Originator: Back_oh_the_net  
Date:   Fri 7 Aug 21:09

Hearing that Rudden has done his knee again so that’s probably him for the rest of the season
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