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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 13 Aug 09:05
Ian Murray is making dire warnings about the club not being able to fulfil fixtures if he can`t boost his squad numbers. After a promising start as manager following his appointment last season he seems to have lost the support of the Cappielow faithful.
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Topic Originator: Bamba-Daft
Date: Thu 13 Aug 12:05
Only had 13 players at training this week with some of them being academy teenagers. They’re humped.
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Topic Originator: Hoolie
Date: Thu 13 Aug 12:08
A lot of injured players aswell. Im sure there was money coming in but there was a problem with the investment.
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Thu 13 Aug 12:38
They have had financial problems in the past. Its a challenge for many clubs with small fan bases to stay afloat no doubt.
G Wardrope
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Topic Originator: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Thu 13 Aug 14:36
I remember the crazy days of Hugh Scott being chairman.
Douglas Rae was much more sensible and poured in a lot of cash (even if it was only sweetie-money...) but after his sad demise, his family were less keen on squandering their inheritance.
There have been stories about expected sponsorship being promised but not materialising.
Many people say that Championship football in unsustainable - clubs like ourselves spending loads bids up the price for everyone else. they can`t all compete successfully and often run into trouble if they try.
I think Morton fans were anticipating a long hard season. Maybe they will be grateful to get to the end intact.
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Thu 13 Aug 23:08
It’s sad teams in our league struggle so much.Compared to English clubs,it’s a disgrace how we are treated.T.v money is chicken feed,and parachute payments are non existent as far as I’m aware. No wonder we all struggle,to exist.Thank god we have a great board,and a very loyal support! Who would want to run a club in this league?
Post Edited (Thu 13 Aug 23:21)
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Topic Originator: DunPar
Date: Fri 14 Aug 03:32
Morton. Still got memories of Andy Ritchie from them gubbing us 5-0 in Scottish cup at cappielow. 46(?) years ago ? Aw FFS….
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Topic Originator: ianbd6
Date: Fri 14 Aug 10:52
Are morton a full time team?. I don`t understand why they would consider forfeiting games because they are short of players and have no money. Sign a few amateurs.
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Topic Originator: BouncyPar
Date: Fri 14 Aug 10:58
Sounds like a private battle between the manager and chairman, with Murray using a press release to put pressure on the board.
Also a preemptive bit of defence by Murray, shifting any fan anger for their poor start from himself over to the board for not releasing funds
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Topic Originator: Connor560
Date: Fri 14 Aug 11:13
Quote:
ianbd6, Fri 14 Aug 10:52
Are morton a full time team?. I don`t understand why they would consider forfeiting games because they are short of players and have no money. Sign a few amateurs.
Yes, they are full time
C'mon Ye Pars!
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Topic Originator: Berkey
Date: Fri 14 Aug 12:23
Feels like Murray has been rug pulled and is trying to protect his rep as the team plummets.
The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!
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Topic Originator: neils
Date: Fri 14 Aug 14:35
Seems he is trying to protect his reputation, but Dougie Imrie managed for years on a limited budget
Doesn`t help that Murray has used his budget to include a couple injury prone players (who subsequently are injured) and O`Halloran.
It never ends well going against the board in football, I think they are majority fan owned? If so, well that has limitations as we know.
There is a reason he is at Morton, fans never want to hear managers moaning about injuries, budgets etc. I don`t think this has gone down well.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Fri 14 Aug 15:37
He`s also brought in loads of midfield players when they are crying out for defensive players. Expect to see Iain Wilson at centre back again this season.
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Topic Originator: Higgys Mohawk
Date: Fri 14 Aug 16:07
Quote:
kelty_par, Fri 14 Aug 15:37
He`s also brought in loads of midfield players when they are crying out for defensive players. Expect to see Iain Wilson at centre back again this season.
Wilson always seems to play well against us.
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Topic Originator: Jeffery
Date: Fri 14 Aug 16:41
I think there`s a bit more to this one than just Murray having a go at the board. Their signings look low cost or loanees so there is maybe just no money, or at least none being spent.
My reading of it from memory is that the current owners are waiting for the new `Estrella` investment to come through. Even when it does they`d need to agree what to spend it on.
The £750k over three years they are putting in, for three seats on the board, sounds like peanuts too. MCT (fans group) have two so they won`t have any majority say. Looks a potential mess.
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Topic Originator: Par-timer
Date: Fri 14 Aug 20:39
Morton always seem to be amongst the bookies’ favourites for relegation, yet often seem to finish fairly comfortably mid-table. This is their twelfth successive season in the second tier!
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Topic Originator: ianbd6
Date: Fri 14 Aug 22:22
Quote:
Connor560, Fri 14 Aug 11:13
Quote:
ianbd6, Fri 14 Aug 10:52
Are morton a full time team?. I don`t understand why they would consider forfeiting games because they are short of players and have no money. Sign a few amateurs.
Yes, they are full time
Thanks for that. Morton seem to struggle financially every season. I don`t understand why they don`t go part time. Arbroath seem to manage.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 14 Aug 22:28
Ton pal says
“Think the manager has maybe thrown his toys out the pram with this ‘might need to forfeit matches’ nonsense. New share deal worth £250,000 per year will probably go ahead. Ian Murray acting like a drama queen 😄”
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sat 15 Aug 09:01
East Kilbride manager Mick Kennedy has offered to sponsor the shirts of players at fellow SPFL club Morton amid their lack of squad numbers. (Sun, external)
I presume they mean his business.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 19 Aug 07:58
Fighting fund launched by Morton.
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Topic Originator: BigTpar1986
Date: Wed 19 Aug 09:08
Quote:
buffy, Fri 14 Aug 22:28
Ton pal says
“Think the manager has maybe thrown his toys out the pram with this ‘might need to forfeit matches’ nonsense. New share deal worth £250,000 per year will probably go ahead. Ian Murray acting like a drama queen 😄”
Your Ton pal seems like a solid source
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Topic Originator: Indiapar1
Date: Wed 19 Aug 09:50
I would imagine that for any manager, going to a club with limited resources presents a challenge. It takes money to compete in Scottish football to invest in players that are really your primary asset. Reputation is everything so if you are managing a club, that due to financial constraints may be prime for relegation then its your reputation at stake as a manager. The wider issue remains for those who run Scottish football is how do you structure the leagues so that clubs can remain viable financially and football is entertaining so that people want to watch it. Once great clubs like Morton seem to be in managed decline, propped up by benefactors rather than being able to operate as thriving businesses.
I believe that in 2024/25 the Pars recorded the highest defecit of all championship clubs. Most championship clubs do not publish Profit and Loss accounts under the small business exemption at Companies House. The loss was attributed to January recruitment, transfer fee investment, and repeated management and football structure changes.
For championship clubs generally, a practical benchmark is on average, approximately £3.5m total annual operating expenditure with a £1.3m player-payroll allowance. A club exceeding £4m without exceptional commercial income, transfer profits or committed owner funding will normally operate at a significant deficit.
That seems to be the financial reality for many clubs.
G Wardrope
Post Edited (Wed 19 Aug 15:12)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Wed 19 Aug 09:55
According to the Sun, the Easdale brothers, who were directors/shareholders in Rangers at one time, have been approached as potential investors.
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Topic Originator: Sacktheref69
Date: Wed 19 Aug 14:58
If they have set up a fighting fund that`s doesn`t sound good. Hope they pull through.
This is Andy Tod`s world and we are lucky to live in it.
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