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 Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Parsbilly  
Date:   Wed 4 Dec 18:05

some can't take no for an answer

Farage has lost how many general election attempts?

Locally we have Cara Hilton who is a consistent loser, Docherty before her.

Neale Hanvey could not even retain his seat as a councillor and now he is standing as an MP (watch how his suspension is lifted if he wins Kirkcaldy)

These folk have brass necks, give them that
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Wed 4 Dec 18:17

This could turn out to be the longest thread in .Net history!
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 4 Dec 18:35

Docherty was elected as an MP and I think Hilton was a Councillor, wasn't she?
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: shrek par  
Date:   Fri 6 Dec 17:33

You know you have a nose for this when all three refuse to communicate with you. Hope the both of them get their totties. Shows how bad it's got if those are the best candidates they can put forward.

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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Fri 6 Dec 18:44

Quote:

Parsbilly, Wed 4 Dec 18:05

some can't take no for an answer

Farage has lost how many general election attempts?

Locally we have Cara Hilton who is a consistent loser, Docherty before her.

Neale Hanvey could not even retain his seat as a councillor and now he is standing as an MP (watch how his suspension is lifted if he wins Kirkcaldy)

These folk have brass necks, give them that


Neale Hanvey lost because of the STV voting system.
His name was second SNP one on the ballot.
Jean Hall Muir appeared before his so many voters put 1 for her and 2 for him.
Tories and Labour only put 1 candidate forward each.
SNP got far more votes but lost out narrowly on winning 2 seats as not 100% of the extra transfer over.
If his name was first alphabetically he would have won easily.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Fri 6 Dec 19:22

Quote:

sadindiefreak, Fri 6 Dec 18:44

Quote:

Parsbilly, Wed 4 Dec 18:05

some can't take no for an answer

Farage has lost how many general election attempts?

Locally we have Cara Hilton who is a consistent loser, Docherty before her.

Neale Hanvey could not even retain his seat as a councillor and now he is standing as an MP (watch how his suspension is lifted if he wins Kirkcaldy)

These folk have brass necks, give them that


Neale Hanvey lost because of the STV voting system.
His name was second SNP one on the ballot.
Jean Hall Muir appeared before his so many voters put 1 for her and 2 for him.
Tories and Labour only put 1 candidate forward each.
SNP got far more votes but lost out narrowly on winning 2 seats as not 100% of the extra transfer over.
If his name was first alphabetically he would have won easily.


Who's a silly Billy?
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 6 Dec 20:00

And then Jean Hall Muir wouldn't have been elected.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: donj  
Date:   Fri 6 Dec 20:32

Voting for Hanvey anyway as no more anti-semitic than me.Totally rubbish getting suspended for saying Soros is a manipulator who had made around a Billion from us with the run on the pound and Israel are badly treating the Palestinians.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 6 Dec 20:33

Wow

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: donj  
Date:   Fri 6 Dec 22:56

Is that a wow as I have my principles or a wow that I think it was a rubbish stitch-up for hardly any comment or quote that was anti jewish.

It is utter rubbish that any comment against Israel for it's despicable treatment of the Palestinians is even thought to be anti Jewish.The Israeli government have somehow turned any criticism of them into a hatred of jews.Sorry I think they are treating these people abysmally but I have no hatred of jews.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 6 Dec 23:07

Do you even know it was that Hanvey did? It certainly wasn't because he said that George Soros made a mint from the Conservative government of John Major making a balls up of the e.r.m.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Sat 7 Dec 00:17

Quote:

The One Who Knocks, Fri 6 Dec 20:00

And then Jean Hall Muir wouldn't have been elected.


If the SNP vote had been split 50/50 I believe they would both have been elected.
It's just a quirk of the STV system.
I was just making the point that although he was rejected as the OP put it that it wasn't because the SNP had lost.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Sat 7 Dec 00:18

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The One Who Knocks, Fri 6 Dec 23:07

Do you even know it was that Hanvey did? It certainly wasn't because he said that George Soros made a mint from the Conservative government of John Major making a balls up of the e.r.m.


Do you know? cause I know exactly what he did.
I have a feeling you don't.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 7 Dec 01:09

He needs to sue the papers then.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Sat 7 Dec 01:13

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The One Who Knocks, Sat 7 Dec 01:09

He needs to sue the papers then.


So I take it you don't know.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 7 Dec 10:05

I only went on what was reported in the papers about the George Soros meme. If he didn't tweet that then he really should sue the papers. He won't though because he hasn't been suspended for alleged anti semitic comments he actually did make anti semitic comments hence his public apology.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 7 Dec 13:45

Hanvey is one our beloved local sleekit developer's pets.

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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Sun 8 Dec 00:49

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The One Who Knocks, Sat 7 Dec 10:05

I only went on what was reported in the papers about the George Soros meme. If he didn't tweet that then he really should sue the papers. He won't though because he hasn't been suspended for alleged anti semitic comments he actually did make anti semitic comments hence his public apology.


It wasn't a meme it was an article in Sputnik.
The article makes absolutely no reference to Soros being Jewish. Neale says his ethnicity never even crossed his mind when he shared it.
The problem is that there is an antisemitic trope that Jews supposedly control the world, so the cartoon of Soros as a puppet master is deemed antisemitic
The link to article is here if you want to look at it and decide for yourself
https://sputniknews.com/world/201608151044266398-soros-dcleaks-russian-hacker-hillary/

The other thing he did was liken Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the Nazi's treatment of Jews in WW2.
I don't think that is antisemitism, it is insensitive and possibly distasteful but antisemitic? Not for me.

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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Mario  
Date:   Sun 8 Dec 10:22

The internationally accepted protocol, implemented by the SNP, is not for you?
Btw..not only has the party dropped its Kirkcaldy candidate like a hot spud, a member of their standards committee has investigated herself for much the same thing and resigned. Jumped before dumped you could say.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Sun 8 Dec 12:26

The international standard definition of antisemitism isn't universally acceoted though is it Mario?

The controversy centres around whether or not it is actually antisemitic to compare the israeli government's policies with those of nazi Germany.

Whilst I think that it is lacking in sensitivity and it's factually innacurate, (Israel is more like Apartheid South Africa) it's not antisemitic to my mind.


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"


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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Mario  
Date:   Sun 8 Dec 13:21

Well it’s accepted by all of our main political parties. If they boot folk out for begging to differ with party policy that’s up to them. Can’t see it being reversed either.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Wotsit  
Date:   Sun 8 Dec 14:05

It's not accepted by Labour.


"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Sun 8 Dec 17:08

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Wotsit, Sun 8 Dec 12:26

The international standard definition of antisemitism isn't universally acceoted though is it Mario?

The controversy centres around whether or not it is actually antisemitic to compare the israeli government's policies with those of nazi Germany.

Whilst I think that it is lacking in sensitivity and it's factually innacurate, (Israel is more like Apartheid South Africa) it's not antisemitic to my mind.


100% agree with this. I wouldn't make that comparison personally but Judaism is not Israel and Israel is not Judaism. Critisicm of one is not automatically criticism of the other.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: donj  
Date:   Fri 13 Dec 09:15

Well looks like my vote for the failed politician was repeated by quite a few others as he is now our mp.
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Fri 13 Dec 10:51

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Parsbilly, Wed 4 Dec 18:05

some can't take no for an answer

Farage has lost how many general election attempts?

Locally we have Cara Hilton who is a consistent loser, Docherty before her.

Neale Hanvey could not even retain his seat as a councillor and now he is standing as an MP (watch how his suspension is lifted if he wins Kirkcaldy)

These folk have brass necks, give them that


Please edit your original comments...
Silly Billy
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Parsbilly  
Date:   Fri 13 Dec 17:32

Why? His suspension will be lifted now he won Kirkcaldy

Not bad for a councillor that was in the pocket of a Dunfermline property developer before getting booted out
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 13 Dec 18:27

*admin edits incoming*
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Tenruh  
Date:   Sat 14 Dec 06:11

Quote:

Parsbilly, Fri 13 Dec 17:32

Why? His suspension will be lifted now he won Kirkcaldy

Not bad for a councillor that was in the pocket of a Dunfermline property developer before getting booted out


Bad loser and jealous Silly Billy?
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 Re: Failed politicians
Topic Originator: Parsbilly  
Date:   Sat 14 Dec 09:15

neither, you're not very good at this.
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