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Topic Originator: Jbob
Date: Wed 5 Jun 20:00
More money to be available for enquiries.
Time to draw a line surely.
Bobs of the world unite
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Wed 5 Jun 22:41
This case is no longer active in any meaningful sense, in fact it has not been for at least a decade, so there is no need to fund an enquiry which lead exactly nowhere.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 5 Jun 23:22
Is this more public money?
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 5 Jun 23:30
Imagine they spent £12,000,000 investigating everyone that went missing. Something stinks about this case. Jeremy Kyle is needing to get his lie detectors out on the parents for a kick off
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Topic Originator: AdamAntsParsStripe
Date: Thu 6 Jun 01:19
The past c**t I would want is Jeremy F**king Kyle to do a lie detector case.
Otherwise, your point is sound.
Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 6 Jun 08:53
Asked it before, what's so special about this kid?
Thousands go missing each year and you really only hear one name.
There's a cover up going on.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 6 Jun 09:01
What about the tragic case of Ben Needham?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Saltire
Date: Thu 6 Jun 11:34
His parents weren't close to the establishment
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 6 Jun 12:16
Yes but millions were spent, quite rightly in my opinion, in trying to find out what happened to the poor lad.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 6 Jun 12:32
What’s the justification for re-opening the investigation ?
Compelling new evidence ?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 6 Jun 12:42
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Thu 6 Jun 09:01
What about the tragic case of Ben Needham?
That's two out of thousands, my point still stands.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 6 Jun 13:01
So by continuing to keep this case in the public eye it's assisting in a cover up how?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: Jbob
Date: Thu 6 Jun 17:27
Well over 140,000 kids reported as missing in Uk last year.
Bobs of the world unite
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 6 Jun 17:38
Missing covers a wide range of scenarios, from kids who abscond from care homes for very short periods to those abducted for nefarious reasons.
I was up at QVS Dunblane some years ago when two “inmates” did a runner - the police have to be called in. The truants generally show face when the weather turns nasty and hunger kicks in.
Post Edited (Thu 06 Jun 21:54)
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Topic Originator: Jbob
Date: Thu 6 Jun 17:41
not always by a long chalk
Bobs of the world unite
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Thu 6 Jun 17:50
Does this only come up because it happened abroad and our police shouldn't really be involved? Crimes here, of all sorts, the police just get on with it and prioritise things themselves as much as they can. Here, with it being out of their jurisdiction, they need special funding, or at least permission, to do so.
I could be wrong of course, but we don't hear about funding being renewed every six months or so for anything else. With the continued lack of visible progress in the case I sometimes wonder if it's all just a ruse for additional funding into domestic policing.
Edit: predictive text.
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Post Edited (Thu 06 Jun 22:15)
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Topic Originator: calpar
Date: Fri 7 Jun 22:44
Negligence, indeed,
there is a crime of child negligence,
even animal negligence, as you sir would know,
I have seen many people subsequently found guilty of the latter, but, to date, regarding this person, noone even tried, why would that be ?
negligence indeed, but by whom, and for why ?
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Sat 8 Jun 09:15
Quote:
calpar, Fri 7 Jun 22:44
Negligence, indeed,
there is a crime of child negligence,
even animal negligence, as you sir would know,
I have seen many people subsequently found guilty of the latter, but, to date, regarding this person, noone even tried, why would that be ?
negligence indeed, but by whom, and for why ?
Both the parents. Just so they could have peace to eat and booze.
This was supposed to be a holiday with their children. Ha ha ha. They barely see their kids for the whole holiday. Dropped off at kids club in the morning. Saw them briefly for lunch then back to club. Picked up after club. Fed and put to bed. Off the parents go to eat and get drunk. Why even bother to take your kids with you. It clearly wasn't a holiday for the kids. They should have left them at home with grandparents.
Negligence of the highest order.
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sat 8 Jun 09:34
Quote:
calpar, Fri 7 Jun 22:44
Negligence, indeed,
there is a crime of child negligence,
even animal negligence, as you sir would know,
I have seen many people subsequently found guilty of the latter, but, to date, regarding this person, noone even tried, why would that be ?
A better comparison would be with other parents who have lost children at the hands of others and then been prosecuted for neglect.
My response to this from the last time round (which even refers to the time before):
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parsfan, Sat 17 Nov 13:06
I don't get the child neglect thing. If they had nothing to do with her disappearance then it's just kicking people when they're down. They made a catastrophic error of judgement and their child paid for it. Losing a child and having to bear the certain knowledge that it was your own actions that allowed it to happen is punishment enough. I've seen on here people disagreeing with that, fair enough - maybe going to jail is worse than losing a child to some people. It would certainly terrify me but I'd take it in a heartbeat over losing one of my kids (even more so with the uncertainty surrounding Maddie).
I defended this position last time round saying that's there's some compassion in the justice system. Someone responded to that by stating as a fact that a woman was being charged for the death of her child who was in a car that rolled into a river - presumably to suggest that it's standard practice for the justice system to go after bereaved parents and the McCann's were being treated differently. At no point was that woman, or anyone else, ever charged. The closest it came was the police looking into whether charges could or should be brought.
The alternative is that they did have something to do with it. If so, why keep going on about child neglect? They only ever go for small stuff like that (small as opposed to murder) if they can't make bigger crimes stick (eg Al Capone). It looks like the authorities don't think they did it so they're not going to go after them on lesser charge of child neglect.
Alternatively, maybe they do think it was them and all this money's being spent building a case against them?
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Topic Originator: calpar
Date: Sat 8 Jun 10:25
Perhaps my use of negligence refers to other than the parents in this case
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Topic Originator: parsfan
Date: Sat 8 Jun 11:00
Quote:
calpar, Sat 8 Jun 10:25
Perhaps my use of negligence refers to other than the parents in this case
The authorities? As in being negligent in their duty to pursue them on child negligence charges?
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Sat 8 Jun 11:51
The way those children were treated on holiday borders on child abuse not just negligence. I know of no parent on holiday who has left their children alone in a room for the whole evening (every evening) and then went to the pub. There was a child babysitter service available at their apartment which they chose not to use. Why? Oh they were checking every half hour. What a load of bull.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sat 8 Jun 12:24
Quote:
moviescot, Sat 8 Jun 11:51
The way those children were treated on holiday borders on child abuse not just negligence. I know of no parent on holiday who has left their children alone in a room for the whole evening (every evening) and then went to the pub. There was a child babysitter service available at their apartment which they chose not to use. Why? Oh they were checking every half hour. What a load of bull.
Careful now, we appear to be agreeing on something..
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Sat 8 Jun 15:37
Quote:
Rastapari, Sat 8 Jun 12:24
Quote:
moviescot, Sat 8 Jun 11:51
The way those children were treated on holiday borders on child abuse not just negligence. I know of no parent on holiday who has left their children alone in a room for the whole evening (every evening) and then went to the pub. There was a child babysitter service available at their apartment which they chose not to use. Why? Oh they were checking every half hour. What a load of bull.
Careful now, we appear to be agreeing on something..
Anyone who doesn't agree has strange views on child care. 😂
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sat 8 Jun 17:03
Quote:
moviescot, Sat 8 Jun 15:37
Quote:
Rastapari, Sat 8 Jun 12:24
Quote:
moviescot, Sat 8 Jun 11:51
The way those children were treated on holiday borders on child abuse not just negligence. I know of no parent on holiday who has left their children alone in a room for the whole evening (every evening) and then went to the pub. There was a child babysitter service available at their apartment which they chose not to use. Why? Oh they were checking every half hour. What a load of bull.
Careful now, we appear to be agreeing on something..
Anyone who doesn't agree has strange views on child care. 😂
True...but let's just take baby steps before declaring undying love ;)
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Sat 8 Jun 18:21
Quote:
Rastapari, Sat 8 Jun 17:03
Quote:
moviescot, Sat 8 Jun 15:37
Quote:
Rastapari, Sat 8 Jun 12:24
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moviescot, Sat 8 Jun 11:51
The way those children were treated on holiday borders on child abuse not just negligence. I know of no parent on holiday who has left their children alone in a room for the whole evening (every evening) and then went to the pub. There was a child babysitter service available at their apartment which they chose not to use. Why? Oh they were checking every half hour. What a load of bull.
Careful now, we appear to be agreeing on something..
Anyone who doesn't agree has strange views on child care. 😂
True...but let's just take baby steps before declaring undying love ;)[/quote
As long as you stay in the real world we'll be fine
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Topic Originator: onandupthepars
Date: Sat 8 Jun 22:15
Do you really think it's all a charade? Not saying it isn't but it's a heck of a one to keep going all this time. I can't decide one way or the other but I still feel angry about them not having a babysitter and not even locking the door?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Sat 8 Jun 22:29
Quote:
renegade master, Sat 8 Jun 21:44
Ask why they spent so much money on legal costs trying to gag and subsequently chasing the the original Portuguese lead police investigator?
Those findings supported the conclusion many made!
If you drug your kids when you go out wife swapping and you get the dose wrong and they die you are up the creek without a paddle!
Only the establishment have given them a yacht to sail down the Nile...
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