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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 12 Oct 09:18
I've just watched the Olympic champion and WR holder smash the 2hr marathon barrier in Vienna.
What a fantastic achievement.
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Topic Originator: EastEndBoy
Date: Sat 12 Oct 09:48
Probably drugs etc etc. Yawn.
Unbelievable achievement. It had long been said that it wasn't possible.
...ken?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 12 Oct 09:49
Not an official record. Something about using a pace car and pace runners.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sat 12 Oct 10:05
Quote:
The One Who Knocks, Sat 12 Oct 09:49
Not an official record. Something about using a pace car and pace runners.
It's a record in my book, although I could probably have set it, too - if I'd been allowed to sit in the pace car.....đ
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Sat 12 Oct 11:35
Pmsl GG. it was pointed out on the news it was a specially designed course, WTF , a man just ran 26.2 miles in under 2 hours. That's roughly 26 miles ran around 4.5 minute per mile.
Unbelievable achievement, just hope he didn't do a lap of honour
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Topic Originator: parbucks
Date: Sat 12 Oct 13:05
Following a green laser beam on the road which indicated the pace to beat 2hours.
Still a remarkable achievement.
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Topic Originator: parathletic
Date: Sat 12 Oct 14:04
Had a triangle of runners around him to protect him from the wind too-still some performance.Just saw scenes of the Kenyans celebrating
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sat 12 Oct 14:18
Well it was twenty seconds than the previous best.
And although my eyes were open
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Topic Originator: parbucks
Date: Sat 12 Oct 18:04
Didnât it beat the record by 1m 59secs?
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Topic Originator: Jbob
Date: Sat 12 Oct 19:11
Well done but totally fabricated as noted above.
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Topic Originator: kelty_par
Date: Sat 12 Oct 19:38
"Well it was twenty seconds than the previous best."
"Didnât it beat the record by 1m 59secs?"
Think it is 20 seconds better than the official World Record, and around 2 minutes better than his previous attempt he set at Monza race track a few years ago.
The reason is wasnt classed as an official record is because they had sognieurs on bikes handing over drinks and gels rather than having to go over and potentially slowing down to take on drinks and food from a table at the roadside.
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Sat 12 Oct 19:38
Wasn't even a race was it?
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh
Date: Sun 13 Oct 18:06
So Paula has gone from number one to number two. Or from a number two to number two.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 13 Oct 18:31
Marathon records are pointless. The running conditions from one city to the next must be significant.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 13 Oct 18:34
Having pacemakers and all the other aids available must be a huge advantage in a marathon where runners often burn themselves out by misjudging the pace early in the race.
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Topic Originator: parbucks
Date: Sun 13 Oct 18:55
âThe running conditions from one city to the next must be significant.â
Absolutely. Bet it was the flattest course they could find.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Sun 13 Oct 18:59
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 13 Oct 19:08
And yet Radcliffe set her world record only a year after becoming a marathon runnerđ€
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 13 Oct 19:39
It doesnât matter if itâs an official record imo. Heâs the first to do it. There probably arenât any other athletes in all of history that would have been capable of this even with the help he had. He maybe will never achieve this under race conditions but someone will in the future. Some people need to accept that the heroes of their day are miles behind the quality of the elite in present day. Sport is progressive. Athletes are better now than they were then and the ones of the future will be better than the present.
Post Edited (Sun 13 Oct 19:40)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Sun 13 Oct 19:43
It rather defeats the point of sport though if athletes are running on their own in controlled conditions just to beat a record. Can we expect a number of similar events from runners who want to challenge this record?
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 13 Oct 19:48
Itâs not an official record though. Why didnât someone try it sooner? Is there anyone else capable under these same conditions? Who previously would have been capable? I donât think we should take anything away from him. Itâs and incredible achievement. As I said, it will be eclipsed in the near future by either him (doubtful tbh) or another athlete when they do it under race conditions.
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 13 Oct 19:57
Tbh, it wasnât the time that astounded me. It was the shape he was in when he crossed the line! He looked like he couldâve done it again. Different class!
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Topic Originator: parbucks
Date: Sun 13 Oct 20:02
The route included a 2.6 mile straight and was repeated 4.5 times to complete the distance. The road was relaid to ensure a perfect surface and a roundabout was given a camber to maximise efficiency as he circled it.
Add this to all the other aids and support he had then you really have to put this achievement in context with marathons run under normal competition conditions.
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Topic Originator: allparone
Date: Sun 13 Oct 20:09
Yes, youâre correct. The conditions were âperfectâ. Heâs the first though but heâll not be the last. Whoever manages it under race conditions will be held in higher regard imo. Kipchogu will always be the first though and he should be celebrated for it.
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Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey
Date: Mon 14 Oct 12:58
managed to get signal coming into land at gatwick to catch the last 10 mins and a simply incredible achievement.
watch attempt 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dJW47y5HIo
even with it being "manufactured" to run 42kms with a 4 second variation from fastest to slowest is just incredible. Kipchoge talks about running being a team sport with support crew etc who all train/eat together. "perfect" conditions however look at how/where he trains in comparison. No different to ever day person training up Lomonds/benarty etc then running along crammond prom in a race. the times they do will be vastly different. This is a guy that managed 2:01:39 on a standard city marathon that anyone can enter.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Tue 15 Oct 19:04
Quote:
allparone, Sun 13 Oct 19:57
Tbh, it wasnât the time that astounded me. It was the shape he was in when he crossed the line! He looked like he couldâve done it again. Different class!
I'm with you, allparone! I can't believe the posters on here who want to minimise and almost dismiss what Kipchogu achieved, even if the course and conditions were perfect.
Is there another athlete in the world today who could replicate this feat?
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Topic Originator: Perkins
Date: Wed 16 Oct 17:59
Bekele I reckon
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Topic Originator: widtink
Date: Wed 16 Oct 18:17
There's four of five long distance guys who are just over the 2 hour mark by a couple of minutes that could probably /maybe/perhaps / possibly replicate this if it was done the same way
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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Wed 16 Oct 18:44
Roger Bannister is still revered as the first person to break the 4 minute barrier for a mile. Remember, he had two pacemakers.....
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 17 Oct 08:36
Quote:
Raymie the Legend, Wed 16 Oct 18:44
Roger Bannister is still revered as the first person to break the 4 minute barrier for a mile. Remember, he had two pacemakers.....
Aye, the cheating bassa! I wonder if they gave him a piggy back, like that Russian athlete, who "just sat on Liz McColgan's shoulder and did nothing until the final bend", according to a rather confused and partisan David Colman.....
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 17 Oct 09:29
Why not just put a runner on a treadmill set for sub-2 hour pace for a marathon and let him/her get on with it?
Wasn't Kipchogu's attempt partly a promotional event for one of the big sports equipment manufacturers?
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Topic Originator: Saltire
Date: Thu 17 Oct 10:57
"Why not just put a runner on a treadmill set for sub-2 hour pace for a marathon and let him/her get on with it?"
and there is the voice of a non runner
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 17 Oct 11:21
Guilty as charged!
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Thu 17 Oct 16:04
''Why not just put a runner on a treadmill set for sub-2 hour pace for a marathon and let him/her get on with it?''
There would be a fair chance that the runner would bore himself to sleep long before the 2 hours were up and end up sustaining a nasty injury, eck. :-)
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Topic Originator: Jbob
Date: Thu 17 Oct 19:42
Did he open his legs and show his class?
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