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 Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 09:18

I've just watched the Olympic champion and WR holder smash the 2hr marathon barrier in Vienna.

What a fantastic achievement.



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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: EastEndBoy  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 09:48

Probably drugs etc etc. Yawn.

Unbelievable achievement. It had long been said that it wasn't possible.

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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 09:49

Not an official record. Something about using a pace car and pace runners.

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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 10:05

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The One Who Knocks, Sat 12 Oct 09:49

Not an official record. Something about using a pace car and pace runners.


It's a record in my book, although I could probably have set it, too - if I'd been allowed to sit in the pace car.....😃



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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 11:35

Pmsl GG. it was pointed out on the news it was a specially designed course, WTF , a man just ran 26.2 miles in under 2 hours. That's roughly 26 miles ran around 4.5 minute per mile.

Unbelievable achievement, just hope he didn't do a lap of honour

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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: parbucks  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 13:05

Following a green laser beam on the road which indicated the pace to beat 2hours.
Still a remarkable achievement.
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 14:04

Had a triangle of runners around him to protect him from the wind too-still some performance.Just saw scenes of the Kenyans celebrating
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 14:18

Well it was twenty seconds than the previous best.

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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: parbucks  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 18:04

Didn’t it beat the record by 1m 59secs?
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 19:11

Well done but totally fabricated as noted above.

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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: kelty_par  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 19:38

"Well it was twenty seconds than the previous best."

"Didn’t it beat the record by 1m 59secs?"

Think it is 20 seconds better than the official World Record, and around 2 minutes better than his previous attempt he set at Monza race track a few years ago.

The reason is wasnt classed as an official record is because they had sognieurs on bikes handing over drinks and gels rather than having to go over and potentially slowing down to take on drinks and food from a table at the roadside.
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Sat 12 Oct 19:38

Wasn't even a race was it?



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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: parathletic  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 17:41

Paula Radcliffe's world record broken today

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/50035304


2 hours 14 with no cheating :)
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 18:06

So Paula has gone from number one to number two. Or from a number two to number two.
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 18:31

Marathon records are pointless. The running conditions from one city to the next must be significant.

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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 18:34

Having pacemakers and all the other aids available must be a huge advantage in a marathon where runners often burn themselves out by misjudging the pace early in the race.
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: parbucks  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 18:55

“The running conditions from one city to the next must be significant.”

Absolutely. Bet it was the flattest course they could find.
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 18:59

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parathletic, Sun 13 Oct 17:41

Paula Radcliffe's world record broken today

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/50035304


2 hours 14 with no cheating :)


Not sure about that. 4 minutes quicker than she ran the London marathon in April🤔
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 19:08

And yet Radcliffe set her world record only a year after becoming a marathon runner🤔

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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 19:39

It doesn’t matter if it’s an official record imo. He’s the first to do it. There probably aren’t any other athletes in all of history that would have been capable of this even with the help he had. He maybe will never achieve this under race conditions but someone will in the future. Some people need to accept that the heroes of their day are miles behind the quality of the elite in present day. Sport is progressive. Athletes are better now than they were then and the ones of the future will be better than the present.



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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 19:43

It rather defeats the point of sport though if athletes are running on their own in controlled conditions just to beat a record. Can we expect a number of similar events from runners who want to challenge this record?
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 19:48

It’s not an official record though. Why didn’t someone try it sooner? Is there anyone else capable under these same conditions? Who previously would have been capable? I don’t think we should take anything away from him. It’s and incredible achievement. As I said, it will be eclipsed in the near future by either him (doubtful tbh) or another athlete when they do it under race conditions.
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 19:57

Tbh, it wasn’t the time that astounded me. It was the shape he was in when he crossed the line! He looked like he could’ve done it again. Different class!
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: parbucks  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 20:02

The route included a 2.6 mile straight and was repeated 4.5 times to complete the distance. The road was relaid to ensure a perfect surface and a roundabout was given a camber to maximise efficiency as he circled it.
Add this to all the other aids and support he had then you really have to put this achievement in context with marathons run under normal competition conditions.
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: allparone  
Date:   Sun 13 Oct 20:09

Yes, you’re correct. The conditions were “perfect”. He’s the first though but he’ll not be the last. Whoever manages it under race conditions will be held in higher regard imo. Kipchogu will always be the first though and he should be celebrated for it.
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: Playup_Pompey  
Date:   Mon 14 Oct 12:58

managed to get signal coming into land at gatwick to catch the last 10 mins and a simply incredible achievement.

watch attempt 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dJW47y5HIo

even with it being "manufactured" to run 42kms with a 4 second variation from fastest to slowest is just incredible. Kipchoge talks about running being a team sport with support crew etc who all train/eat together. "perfect" conditions however look at how/where he trains in comparison. No different to ever day person training up Lomonds/benarty etc then running along crammond prom in a race. the times they do will be vastly different. This is a guy that managed 2:01:39 on a standard city marathon that anyone can enter.

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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Tue 15 Oct 19:04

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allparone, Sun 13 Oct 19:57

Tbh, it wasn’t the time that astounded me. It was the shape he was in when he crossed the line! He looked like he could’ve done it again. Different class!


I'm with you, allparone! I can't believe the posters on here who want to minimise and almost dismiss what Kipchogu achieved, even if the course and conditions were perfect.

Is there another athlete in the world today who could replicate this feat?



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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: Perkins  
Date:   Wed 16 Oct 17:59

Bekele I reckon
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Wed 16 Oct 18:17

There's four of five long distance guys who are just over the 2 hour mark by a couple of minutes that could probably /maybe/perhaps / possibly replicate this if it was done the same way



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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend  
Date:   Wed 16 Oct 18:44

Roger Bannister is still revered as the first person to break the 4 minute barrier for a mile. Remember, he had two pacemakers.....




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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 17 Oct 08:36

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Raymie the Legend, Wed 16 Oct 18:44

Roger Bannister is still revered as the first person to break the 4 minute barrier for a mile. Remember, he had two pacemakers.....


Aye, the cheating bassa! I wonder if they gave him a piggy back, like that Russian athlete, who "just sat on Liz McColgan's shoulder and did nothing until the final bend", according to a rather confused and partisan David Colman.....



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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 17 Oct 09:29

Why not just put a runner on a treadmill set for sub-2 hour pace for a marathon and let him/her get on with it?

Wasn't Kipchogu's attempt partly a promotional event for one of the big sports equipment manufacturers?
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: Saltire  
Date:   Thu 17 Oct 10:57

"Why not just put a runner on a treadmill set for sub-2 hour pace for a marathon and let him/her get on with it?"

and there is the voice of a non runner
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Thu 17 Oct 11:21

Guilty as charged!
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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Thu 17 Oct 16:04

''Why not just put a runner on a treadmill set for sub-2 hour pace for a marathon and let him/her get on with it?''

There would be a fair chance that the runner would bore himself to sleep long before the 2 hours were up and end up sustaining a nasty injury, eck. :-)



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 Re: Eliudh Kipchogu
Topic Originator: Jbob  
Date:   Thu 17 Oct 19:42

Did he open his legs and show his class?

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