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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 28 Jan 12:49
And the British Police helping him...
So, high powered nonce gets to ignore justice for having sex with trafficked girls of dubious age....and our simpering police blocking attempts to trace his whereabouts on certain nights.
Great Britain?
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Tue 28 Jan 12:57
Well they do swear allegiance to his mum!
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Topic Originator: MikeyLeonard
Date: Tue 28 Jan 13:18
Quote:
Rastapari, Tue 28 Jan 12:49
And the British Police helping him...
So, high powered nonce gets to ignore justice for having sex with trafficked girls of dubious age....and our simpering police blocking attempts to trace his whereabouts on certain nights.
Great Britain?
Agreed Rasta, rotten to the core.
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Topic Originator: MDCCCLXXXV
Date: Tue 28 Jan 14:05
Complete joke,
I wonder what the queen would say if it had been one of her family that been assaulted.
 East End Park is a symbol of all that is DAFC.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Tue 28 Jan 15:38
The Police are just as complicit, weak scumbags imo.
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Tue 28 Jan 16:13
Surely with what is going on with Randy Andy and Hewitts Laddie we should just do away with the whole lot of the scroungers
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Tue 28 Jan 17:57
We should do away with them, not because of one or two bad apples (although they do highlight the whole issue with anything hereditary)... But because the whole concept of an unelected, hereditary head of state/church (and all associated privilege and patronage) is outrageous in 2020
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 28 Jan 18:13
"So why do we let these people rule us?"
"Because hundreds of years ago their family was minted and then bred with other minted families from across Europe."
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Topic Originator: twin par
Date: Tue 28 Jan 23:41
Inbreeding is indeed,bad news,never comes out well.
Post Edited (Tue 28 Jan 23:42)
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Topic Originator: GEW35
Date: Wed 29 Jan 07:00
I’m halfway through “...and what do you do?”, Norman Baker’s excellent book on the Royal Family. It’s a bluddy eye opener-highly recommend reading it. I’m wanting a vote on a republic ASAP
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 29 Jan 10:39
The Totals really showing what parasitic lawless scum they are, giving shelter to rapey paedophiles caught having sex with trafficked girls.
Our Police as well, scum, they know the who's who but will do what they're told.
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Topic Originator: Saltire
Date: Wed 29 Jan 14:01
as with anything wont stand up without evidence. Sure you have that Rasta based on the continual postings about so many people and the activities they get upto.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Wed 29 Jan 15:01
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 29 Jan 15:19
Quote:
Saltire, Wed 29 Jan 14:01
as with anything wont stand up without evidence. Sure you have that Rasta based on the continual postings about so many people and the activities they get upto.
I'm sure if he was in Pizza Express yon night the cctv images would be released by now.
By all means though you keep sticking up for the Toffs.
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Wed 29 Jan 16:20
The police do not really have the authority to pursue the aristocracy. Chasing after shoplifters, drug dealers or even the occasional financial fraudster is within their remit but the likes of Prince Andrew and Lord Lucan (back in the news as a distraction I imagine) are off limits. Any Chief Constable who broke this understanding would soon find him or herself suspended from office on trumped up charges. Preventing a hunt saboteur from being horse-whipped is about as far as the police can go, and even then they are expected to arrest the saboteur for trespass.
The privileges enjoyed by the aristocracy are legally enshrined in legislation approved by the House of Lords, an institution based largely on inherited wealth and power, so it is rare for aristocrats to fall foul of the law. However when they are caught out, like when Princess Anne was caught speeding or her dog bit someone, there is great pressure to ‘cough up’ in order to protect the system as a whole. This is more difficult for Prince Andrew given the nature of the allegations but he is receiving a bad press not so much for the alleged offences, but because he is exposing the privileged status the aristocracy hold in relation to police investigations.
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Topic Originator: Saltire
Date: Wed 29 Jan 16:39
all well and good for aristocracy but Rasta is on here week in week out telling us about the terrible wrongs of the rich and famous. Still no evidence against Cliff. Surprised he hasn't jumped on the Kobe Bryant thread to remind us all he was a sex pest as well
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Wed 29 Jan 17:48
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renegade master, Wed 29 Jan 17:27
Topic Originator: sammer like | nolike
Date: Wed 29 Jan 16:20
The police do not really have the authority to pursue the aristocracy. Chasing after shoplifters, drug dealers or even the occasional financial fraudster is within their remit but the likes of Prince Andrew and Lord Lucan (back in the news as a distraction I imagine) are off limits. Any Chief Constable who broke this understanding would soon find him or herself suspended from office on trumped up charges. Preventing a hunt saboteur from being horse-whipped is about as far as the police can go, and even then they are expected to arrest the saboteur for trespass.
The privileges enjoyed by the aristocracy are legally enshrined in legislation approved by the House of Lords, an institution based largely on inherited wealth and power, so it is rare for aristocrats to fall foul of the law. However when they are caught out, like when Princess Anne was caught speeding or her dog bit someone, there is great pressure to ‘cough up’ in order to protect the system as a whole. This is more difficult for Prince Andrew given the nature of the allegations but he is receiving a bad press not so much for the alleged offences, but because he is exposing the privileged status the aristocracy hold in relation to police investigations.
Sammer if anyone else in this country dressed in black wearing balaclavas and concealing their identity while verbally abusing and threatening law abiding citizens going about a centuries long tradition, which take children with them from the Pony Club all over the UK you would expect them to arrested. The right to defend is just that on private land the bottom line is they are trespassing and breaking the law.
If 12 masked people ran on to a football pitch at 3pm and started abusing and threatening a football team because they believe these players have no right (in their eyes) to kick a football and wanted it stopped, would you support the police when they were rightly arrested and dragged from the field?
When a football player defends himself from a hostile threat they are deemed as a hero when a horse rider does it on a legal hunt he his a toff above the law.
Seriously go take a long hard look in the mirror!
Fox hunting is illegal.
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Wed 29 Jan 18:38
Quote:
Saltire, Wed 29 Jan 16:39
all well and good for aristocracy but Rasta is on here week in week out telling us about the terrible wrongs of the rich and famous. Still no evidence against Cliff. Surprised he hasn't jumped on the Kobe Bryant thread to remind us all he was a sex pest as well
That's a little dramatic dear....not to mention a little uncalled for.
Ok so let's introduce a little objectivity...in your opinion, how likely do you think it is Prince Andrew knew nothing of Epstein's "interests" ?
On the others, time vindicated me before and will do so again.
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Wed 29 Jan 18:52
Trump has, in the past, openly admitted to knowing of Epstein liking them young and he seems to be scot free.
The fifth in line to the throne is a big deal but not that big a deal depending who else is involved. He could be the lamb.
That Andrew wasn't better briefed for the interview is quite baffling to me. It was probably even my first though after seeing the interview, that in this media savvy age they let him go out and say that stuff when anyone could see that it would be damaging.
"Who you are and what you feel comes not just from inside you, but from where you are in the power structure"
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Topic Originator: dafc
Date: Wed 29 Jan 19:41
CCTV won't be retained legally for that length of time re pizza express.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Wed 29 Jan 19:54
[Post Deleted] - Deliberately provoking fellow DAFC.net poster(s)
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Topic Originator: donj
Date: Wed 29 Jan 21:51
You will notice that any ever found guilty,or normally dead,are not from our 'ruling' class.Not a hope of anything happening.
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Topic Originator: sammer
Date: Thu 30 Jan 01:01
RM,
There are men in balaclavas hiding their identity threatening law abiding citizens going about a centuries old tradition of protesting: they are called policemen, now dressed in military gear to protect our liberties. Dixon of Dock Green they aint. I can’t say I feel any safer personally but maybe Lord Bruce down in Broomhall sleeps easier at night.
The Royal Family are the keystone of the UK constitution and represent landed wealth. The problem with Harry and Andrew is that in their various ways this rapacious acquisition is being brought to public attention. Rupert Murdoch is a well known anti-monarchist and wants the landed gentry removed from UK life the better to promote his own aristocracy along US lines and he promotes this in all his media outlets. I belong to the 20% of UK citizens who oppose the system of monarchy and have done since polling first started in the 1960s. However we should be wary of millionaire driven anti-monarchism, whose problem is not indefensible privilege but the frustration that they are not afforded it themselves.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 30 Jan 06:25
This is about the rape of trafficked children, not dogs and ponies with all due respect.
It's not about Murdoch either, it's about the rape of trafficked children.
Prince Andrew has taken part in orgies with trafficked children.
Don't play a part in hiding his crimes.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 08:08
Quote:
dafc, Wed 29 Jan 19:41
CCTV won't be retained legally for that length of time re pizza express.
CCTV coverage is generally retained for 30 days or up to 6 months for banks. So no we will not see Prince Andrew at pizza express. So that's a red herring right away.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 08:14
Quote:
renegade master, Thu 30 Jan 01:28
My 13 year old god daughter was thrown from her pony on a drag hunt after a hunt stab squirted somwthing Unknown at her ponys eyes, by a bunch of balaclvered thugs who know nothing! She was lucky and only winded!
These animal lovers have already drawn packs of hounds on to busy roads this year to be skittled by cars at 60 mph this year! What did those dogs or my god daughters horse ever do to deserve to be killed and blinded?
Urbanites have a very narrow minded view of rural life!
Aristocracy is very few and far between and is from normal rural life trust me!
Why are they still having these medieval pursuits? Why are they still breeding dogs for the medieval pursuits. Time to pop into the 21st century really.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 08:21
Quote:
Saltire, Wed 29 Jan 16:39
all well and good for aristocracy but Rasta is on here week in week out telling us about the terrible wrongs of the rich and famous. Still no evidence against Cliff. Surprised he hasn't jumped on the Kobe Bryant thread to remind us all he was a sex pest as well
He lives to speculate because of course that's all it is. You can't categorically say anything happened unless you were there. You rely on other people's stories. Some will be true but most will also be speculation.
Now from my point of view it's likely he knew about it. It's possible he participated. But I have no actual evidence so I won't speculate.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 30 Jan 11:11
"He lives to speculate"
What an absolute drama queen.
Back in the sea.
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Topic Originator: Saltire
Date: Thu 30 Jan 11:23
in the absence of evidence then it is speculation. So assume you then have evidence for the allegations you have made that nobody else does in order to prove guilt?
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 11:26
Quote:
Rastapari, Thu 30 Jan 11:11
"He lives to speculate"
What an absolute drama queen.
Back in the sea.
Boo boo dry your eyes
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 11:27
Quote:
Saltire, Thu 30 Jan 11:23
in the absence of evidence then it is speculation. So assume you then have evidence for the allegations you have made that nobody else does in order to prove guilt?
No he has speculation. As always. And he hates being reminded of this as you can see by his childish response
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 30 Jan 12:33
"On the others, time vindicated me before and will do so again."
Absolute nonsense Rasta.
Your have targetted certain individuals in the past without a shred of credible evidence, and refused to identify sources.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 30 Jan 14:44
Quote:
moviescot, Thu 30 Jan 11:27
Quote:
Saltire, Thu 30 Jan 11:23
in the absence of evidence then it is speculation. So assume you then have evidence for the allegations you have made that nobody else does in order to prove guilt?
No he has speculation. As always. And he hates being reminded of this as you can see by his childish response
Says the belter using phrases like this...
"Boo boo dry your eyes".
Back in the sea.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Thu 30 Jan 14:47
Quote:
veteraneastender, Thu 30 Jan 12:33
"On the others, time vindicated me before and will do so again."
Absolute nonsense Rasta.
Your have targetted certain individuals in the past without a shred of credible evidence, and refused to identify sources.
Aye we know you like to stick up for your beloved owners...
Crack on.
Your argument is based on the Police erg ignoring evidence, not that there isn't any.
So, you believe Andrew's innocent?
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Topic Originator: Thaipar
Date: Thu 30 Jan 15:08
[Post Deleted] - Reported as abusive
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Topic Originator: Saltire
Date: Thu 30 Jan 15:25
"So, you believe Andrew's innocent?"
that's not anybodies decision to make unless they are called to the Jury in court should the crown prosecution service be presented with the evidence to bring charges against him. The kangaroo .net court based on the evidence you have is not a conviction and as per Cliff Richard we are still waiting on that evidence.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 30 Jan 15:31
"Aye we know you like to stick up for your beloved owners...
Crack on."
Same old mantra, parroted on, ad nauseum.
"Your argument is based on the Police erg ignoring evidence, not that there isn't any."
The police looked at Chris Fay's so called evidence - the convicted fraudster who tried to con old people out of their savings.
Then there was the star whistleblower Carl Beech, whose testomony was much anticipated - an already convicted paedophile, who was then found guilty of frauds (public funds) and as a major league serial liar.
"So, you believe Andrew's innocent?"
I am not talking about his case - it's the other long litany of allegations you've made, or alluded to, in recent years, none of which have an iota of proof to back them up.
Just a heap of mince.
Post Edited (Thu 30 Jan 15:33)
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Topic Originator: Buspasspar
Date: Thu 30 Jan 18:35
I don't suppose his nickname Randy Andy helps folks opinions of him. Or the fact he has been photographed and linked with some high profile beautiful women
Add to that the photograph with his arm round the young Lassie and the photograph with Epstein in the park where Andy looks concerned that the sh*t has hit the fan His Pal Epstein also helped to bail Fergie out of financial difficulties ...... Is he guilty ?...... My own opinion is yes ..... will we ever find out ? .......No I don't think so ......The Establishment look after their own :-(
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 30 Jan 19:17
Surely an innocent man would be insisting on speaking to the FBI straight away to ensure they could offer full assistance?
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 19:25
Quote:
Rastapari, Thu 30 Jan 14:44
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moviescot, Thu 30 Jan 11:27
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Saltire, Thu 30 Jan 11:23
in the absence of evidence then it is speculation. So assume you then have evidence for the allegations you have made that nobody else does in order to prove guilt?
No he has speculation. As always. And he hates being reminded of this as you can see by his childish response
Says the belter using phrases like this...
"Boo boo dry your eyes".
Back in the sea.
Time to grow up... Boo boo dry your eyes. Ha ha ha ha
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 19:26
Quote:
jake89, Thu 30 Jan 19:17
Surely an innocent man would be insisting on speaking to the FBI straight away to ensure they could offer full assistance?
Really. You think so. FBI. As corrupt as you can get.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 19:40
Rasta u started playing the man not the ball with your snide back to the sea comment. So no way you can take any moral high ground. The only other time I have heard the back to the sea comment was when my child was 9. So I have your level.
Right now let's have details of your first hand accounts re Andrew. I'll take CCTV, testimony from an actual witness to the acts. I'll accept details from Andrews phone or another person's phone who was involved. I will not accept any second hand accounts.
Over to you
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 30 Jan 22:15
Quote:
moviescot, Thu 30 Jan 19:26
Quote:
jake89, Thu 30 Jan 19:17
Surely an innocent man would be insisting on speaking to the FBI straight away to ensure they could offer full assistance?
Really. You think so. FBI. As corrupt as you can get.
Yes, I think so.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Thu 30 Jan 22:32
Quote:
jake89, Thu 30 Jan 22:15
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moviescot, Thu 30 Jan 19:26
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jake89, Thu 30 Jan 19:17
Surely an innocent man would be insisting on speaking to the FBI straight away to ensure they could offer full assistance?
Really. You think so. FBI. As corrupt as you can get.
Yes, I think so.
Even as an innocent man, I would go nowhere near the FBI. Americans barely know the meaning of justice. He would be foolish to even step inside the USA.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Fri 31 Jan 15:25
Quote:
moviescot, Thu 30 Jan 19:25
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Rastapari, Thu 30 Jan 14:44
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moviescot, Thu 30 Jan 11:27
Quote:
Saltire, Thu 30 Jan 11:23
in the absence of evidence then it is speculation. So assume you then have evidence for the allegations you have made that nobody else does in order to prove guilt?
No he has speculation. As always. And he hates being reminded of this as you can see by his childish response
Says the belter using phrases like this...
"Boo boo dry your eyes".
Back in the sea.
Time to grow up... Boo boo dry your eyes. Ha ha ha ha
Are you ok?
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 31 Jan 16:07
Some might say that you are literally desperate for the distraction, the diversion if you prefer, to be followed....
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 31 Jan 16:49
"You are literally desperate for this to go away eh..."
Simply flagging up what has been reported from a reptuable source, something which is clearly alien to you.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Fri 31 Jan 17:27
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 31 Jan 16:49
"You are literally desperate for this to go away eh..."
Simply flagging up what has been reported from a reptuable source, something which is clearly alien to you.
You regard the BBC as a reputable source, you know the BBC that hid Savile....that reputable source.
What is it about Andrew knowingly being in the company of trafficked teenage girls that you are ok with?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 31 Jan 17:46
I watched a BBC documentary about child abuse in the Anglican church a few weeks ago - "Survivor's Story" - go watch on iPlayer then come back and tell us it's all made up fiction from a disreputable source.
As for Prince Andrew - I'm not convinced either way.
I'm not even sure he committed a crime in the UK - the USA is another matter of course.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari
Date: Fri 31 Jan 17:54
Quote:
veteraneastender, Fri 31 Jan 17:46
I watched a BBC documentary about child abuse in the Anglican church a few weeks ago - "Survivor's Story" - go watch on iPlayer then come back and tell us it's all made up fiction from a disreputable source.
As for Prince Andrew - I'm not convinced either way.
I'm not even sure he committed a crime in the UK - the USA is another matter of course.
You're making the assumption that I regard all items as phony and fraud...I would have no reason to question the integrity of the documentary maker unless research presented a reason to.
And again you skirt any sort of condemnation of serious abuse by members of the establishment.
The BBC knowingly let Savile do his thing for decades....decades.
So yeah, they gave the odd bit decent content but you really don't get to come back from harbouring and protecting paedophiles....call it what you like.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 31 Jan 18:34
"You're making the assumption that I regard all items as phony and fraud."
Only the ones that don't suit your agenda.
"I would have no reason to question the integrity of the documentary maker unless research presented a reason to."
Another bout of convenient amnesia - remember the BBC Panorama documentary of 2015 that debunked allegations of the establishment child abuse ring ?
You balked at accepting their findings simply because it questioned the claims you supported and were subsequently proven baseless.
You've come up with some crackers over the years - like the claim that Cliff Richard took citizenship of Barbados to avoid extradition to the UK to face possible charges.
The fact that there is an extradition treaty, and that he came to Britain a few months later on tour ......................
"And again you skirt any sort of condemnation of serious abuse by members of the establishment."
OK - name names, who is guilty of the above ?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 31 Jan 19:36
[Post Deleted] - Reported as abusive
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Fri 31 Jan 20:01
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 31 Jan 20:09
For what/who exactly ?
Prince Andrew ?
You are barking up the wrong tree, big style, if you think that.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Fri 31 Jan 20:16
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 31 Jan 20:33
"Can't come to any other conclusion."
"The guy is lying through his teath, 94% can see this."
Not so.
6% said they believed him, and 43% indicated that they didn't know.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar
Date: Fri 31 Jan 20:43
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 31 Jan 20:56
It says what it does on the tin - 43% of are uncertain one way or another.
I'm certainly no fan of Prince Andrew.
The person who really should be first up to answer question on this sordid affair is Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Fri 31 Jan 22:48
And still no evidence from rasta. He posts rubbish then steps back and let's everyone else make his case.
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Topic Originator: moviescot
Date: Fri 31 Jan 22:49
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Rastapari, Fri 31 Jan 15:25
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moviescot, Thu 30 Jan 19:25
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Rastapari, Thu 30 Jan 14:44
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moviescot, Thu 30 Jan 11:27
Quote:
Saltire, Thu 30 Jan 11:23
in the absence of evidence then it is speculation. So assume you then have evidence for the allegations you have made that nobody else does in order to prove guilt?
No he has speculation. As always. And he hates being reminded of this as you can see by his childish response
Says the belter using phrases like this...
"Boo boo dry your eyes".
Back in the sea.
Time to grow up... Boo boo dry your eyes. Ha ha ha ha
Are you ok?
I'm fine. Are you sick? Looks like it to me
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