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 Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Thu 26 Nov 19:50

As requested..



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Thu 26 Nov 19:51

It’s like the never ending Fast & Furious Franchise and almost as implausible


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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Thu 26 Nov 19:54

Officially more sequels than most films 🤣



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Thu 26 Nov 22:12

Loads of pupils sent home from Woodmill High today to get tested!
My daughter was ok as she was sitting 2 seats away in class as all pupils have been assigned seats🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
The wee mans primary 2&3 positive covid results but he’s ok as he’s P7....
I can see schools getting closed down again soon tbh.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Thu 26 Nov 22:36

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EEP, Thu 26 Nov 22:12

Loads of pupils sent home from Woodmill High today to get tested!
My daughter was ok as she was sitting 2 seats away in class as all pupils have been assigned seats🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
The wee mans primary 2&3 positive covid results but he’s ok as he’s P7....
I can see schools getting closed down again soon tbh.


Schools will not close unless teachers go on strike. If schools close its a potential disaster.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: dander par  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 06:34

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moviescot, Thu 26 Nov 22:36

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EEP, Thu 26 Nov 22:12

Loads of pupils sent home from Woodmill High today to get tested!
My daughter was ok as she was sitting 2 seats away in class as all pupils have been assigned seats🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
The wee mans primary 2&3 positive covid results but he’s ok as he’s P7....
I can see schools getting closed down again soon tbh.


Schools will not close unless teachers go on strike. If schools close its a potential disaster.


Think they are just going off on the sick to get away from it. They need to strike and speak up about the situation. It’s definitely where the high numbers are coming from . How can you have kids in class with heating on full blast n windows open. Surely a breeding ground for germs/ cold ( coronavirus).
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 07:31

Schools will be closing in a couple of weeks for Christmas anyway.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 08:00

Not to be pedantic but it`s another three and a half weeks.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 08:13

Fair point. Suggestions the Christmas break may be extended to 11/01 now.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 08:20

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dander par, Fri 27 Nov 06:34

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moviescot, Thu 26 Nov 22:36

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EEP, Thu 26 Nov 22:12

Loads of pupils sent home from Woodmill High today to get tested!
My daughter was ok as she was sitting 2 seats away in class as all pupils have been assigned seats🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
The wee mans primary 2&3 positive covid results but he’s ok as he’s P7....
I can see schools getting closed down again soon tbh.


Schools will not close unless teachers go on strike. If schools close its a potential disaster.


Think they are just going off on the sick to get away from it. They need to strike and speak up about the situation. It’s definitely where the high numbers are coming from . How can you have kids in class with heating on full blast n windows open. Surely a breeding ground for germs/ cold ( coronavirus).


My daughter's school has had precisely no cases so it's not where the high numbers came from. Aberdeen had a spike a week ago and again this week. This was traced back to an outdoor pub venue which had the Scotland game on. They broke all the social distancing rules and we have the spikes. There have been around about 10 cases in Aberdeen relating to schools and even then it's not clear there was any transmission in the schools.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Mr Mac  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 09:40

This story on the BBC website might just give a clue where its spreading.

Short version is Glasgow City Council felt they had to write to parents asking them not to have sleepovers for primary kids or parties for teens as track and trace showed these were a major factor in spreading Covid-19.

Parents in the article stating they had done this and would continue as they are 'entitled'....



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 12:59

2 weeks to flatten the curve....now we have "freedom passes".
Wake up, this is politics now, not medicine.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: dander par  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 13:05

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Rastapari, Fri 27 Nov 12:59

2 weeks to flatten the curve....now we have "freedom passes".
Wake up, this is politics now, not medicine.


It’s been politics since start Rasta in disguise of a virus
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 15:28

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moviescot, Fri 27 Nov 08:20

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dander par, Fri 27 Nov 06:34

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moviescot, Thu 26 Nov 22:36

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EEP, Thu 26 Nov 22:12

Loads of pupils sent home from Woodmill High today to get tested!
My daughter was ok as she was sitting 2 seats away in class as all pupils have been assigned seats🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
The wee mans primary 2&3 positive covid results but he’s ok as he’s P7....
I can see schools getting closed down again soon tbh.


Schools will not close unless teachers go on strike. If schools close its a potential disaster.


Think they are just going off on the sick to get away from it. They need to strike and speak up about the situation. It’s definitely where the high numbers are coming from . How can you have kids in class with heating on full blast n windows open. Surely a breeding ground for germs/ cold ( coronavirus).


My daughter's school has had precisely no cases so it's not where the high numbers came from. Aberdeen had a spike a week ago and again this week. This was traced back to an outdoor pub venue which had the Scotland game on. They broke all the social distancing rules and we have the spikes. There have been around about 10 cases in Aberdeen relating to schools and even then it's not clear there was any transmission in the schools.


As an update. Daughter's school has just confirmed it's first pupil (S6 girl) as having covid. We know the girl. She works in accessorize in the town. This is where she caught it as a fellow worker was a confirmed case.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 15:30

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Rastapari, Fri 27 Nov 12:59

2 weeks to flatten the curve....now we have "freedom passes".
Wake up, this is politics now, not medicine.


Freedom passed. England has had these for years. It's the oap bus pass.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 15:48

"The covid 19 outbreak is the first big step to unprecedented control over mankind"

Klaus Schwab...founder and executive chairman of The World Economic Forum.

Nice.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 16:01

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Rastapari, Fri 27 Nov 15:48

"The covid 19 outbreak is the first big step to unprecedented control over mankind"

Klaus Schwab...founder and executive chairman of The World Economic Forum.

Nice.


Mibbe you should read the full context

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/

“All of this will exacerbate the climate and social crises that were already underway. Some countries have already used the COVID-19 crisis as an excuse to weaken environmental protections and enforcement. And frustrations over social ills like rising inequality – US billionaires’ combined wealth has increased during the crisis – are intensifying.

Left unaddressed, these crises, together with COVID-19, will deepen and leave the world even less sustainable, less equal, and more fragile. Incremental measures and ad hoc fixes will not suffice to prevent this scenario. We must build entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems.”

“The COVID-19 crisis is affecting every facet of people’s lives in every corner of the world. But tragedy need not be its only legacy. On the contrary, the pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future.”

Also Klaus Schwab - he sounds like a real monster 🤦🏻‍♂️



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 16:29

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P, Fri 27 Nov 16:01

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Rastapari, Fri 27 Nov 15:48

"The covid 19 outbreak is the first big step to unprecedented control over mankind"

Klaus Schwab...founder and executive chairman of The World Economic Forum.

Nice.


Mibbe you should read the full context

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/

“All of this will exacerbate the climate and social crises that were already underway. Some countries have already used the COVID-19 crisis as an excuse to weaken environmental protections and enforcement. And frustrations over social ills like rising inequality – US billionaires’ combined wealth has increased during the crisis – are intensifying.

Left unaddressed, these crises, together with COVID-19, will deepen and leave the world even less sustainable, less equal, and more fragile. Incremental measures and ad hoc fixes will not suffice to prevent this scenario. We must build entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems.”

“The COVID-19 crisis is affecting every facet of people’s lives in every corner of the world. But tragedy need not be its only legacy. On the contrary, the pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future.”

Also Klaus Schwab - he sounds like a real monster 🤦🏻‍♂️



Oh I read the whole thing, if you believe the big players there are all for your best interests, crack on.
Have a deeper look into him.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 16:38

One of the cruellest things about this is making small businesses spend thousands to make their premises safe and they get dumped on....again.

Want to get fat on Macdonald's?
Sure.
Want to get fit.
Nah.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: dander par  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 19:03

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Rastapari, Fri 27 Nov 16:29

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P, Fri 27 Nov 16:01

Quote:

Rastapari, Fri 27 Nov 15:48

"The covid 19 outbreak is the first big step to unprecedented control over mankind"

Klaus Schwab...founder and executive chairman of The World Economic Forum.

Nice.


Mibbe you should read the full context

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/

“All of this will exacerbate the climate and social crises that were already underway. Some countries have already used the COVID-19 crisis as an excuse to weaken environmental protections and enforcement. And frustrations over social ills like rising inequality – US billionaires’ combined wealth has increased during the crisis – are intensifying.

Left unaddressed, these crises, together with COVID-19, will deepen and leave the world even less sustainable, less equal, and more fragile. Incremental measures and ad hoc fixes will not suffice to prevent this scenario. We must build entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems.”

“The COVID-19 crisis is affecting every facet of people’s lives in every corner of the world. But tragedy need not be its only legacy. On the contrary, the pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future.”

Also Klaus Schwab - he sounds like a real monster 🤦🏻‍♂️



Oh I read the whole thing, if you believe the big players there are all for your best interests, crack on.
Have a deeper look into him.


Yes George soros, bill gates. Rothschilds. Windsor’s to name a few
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 20:01

Gee Whiz :-

I can`t make the link work

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55101058

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Fri 27 Nov 20:33

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Buspasspar, Fri 27 Nov 20:01

Gee Whiz :-

I can`t make the link work

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55101058



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Thu 3 Dec 21:07


Oh Jings


More than 60,000 people in the UK have now died within 28 days of a positive Covid-19 test, official figures show.

A further 414 were recorded on Thursday, taking the total to 60,113.
Two other ways of measuring deaths - where Covid is mentioned on the death certificate, and the number of "excess deaths" for this time of year - give higher total figures.

Only the US, Brazil, India and Mexico have recorded more deaths than the UK, according to Johns Hopkins University.

However, the UK has had more deaths per 100,000 people than any of those nations.

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: dd23  
Date:   Sat 5 Dec 05:37

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Buspasspar, Thu 03 Dec 21:07


Oh Jings


More than 60,000 people in the UK have now died within 28 days of a positive Covid-19 test, official figures show.

A further 414 were recorded on Thursday, taking the total to 60,113.
Two other ways of measuring deaths - where Covid is mentioned on the death certificate, and the number of "excess deaths" for this time of year - give higher total figures.

Only the US, Brazil, India and Mexico have recorded more deaths than the UK, according to Johns Hopkins University.

However, the UK has had more deaths per 100,000 people than any of those nations.


How can that be true, I read that you’re more likely to be killed by a lion in Cowdenbeath high street 😜
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Westies squint kicks  
Date:   Thu 10 Dec 11:47

67 cases at Canmore Lodge Care Home, 35 residents, 32 staff, poor old dears, unlikely this`ll end well.



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Thu 10 Dec 12:49

Not good figures from the home in Crossgates either, 6 residents have died!RIP ❤
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 10 Dec 13:22

Just had an email from friends in the US - apparently a significant rise in cases across the country post Thanksgiving.

The family gatherings apparently the source of cross contamination.

Makes one wonder about the fallout from the upcoming Christmas 5 day relaxation scenario.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 10 Dec 13:34

"One of the cruellest things about this is making small businesses spend thousands to make their premises safe and they get dumped on....again.

Want to get fat on Macdonald`s?
Sure.
Want to get fit.
Nah."

It is sad that all businesses are suffering - but you don`t need to go to a gym to exercise physically, there are ample outdoor options.

For example, bike sales have increased greatly since Spring.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Thu 10 Dec 15:36

^^^where to start with this p*sh^^^

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Thu 10 Dec 22:44

Lead on MacDuff then.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Sun 13 Dec 16:33

Meanwhile over the border!

https://archive.vn/UWnAm
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 13 Dec 17:18

Its a long read LA but well worth it thanks for sharing Wonder why we don`t hear about any of this on Aunty :)

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sun 13 Dec 20:57

Rasta the point of the vaccine is it will save lives and it will mean the country can get back to normallity without overwhelming the NHS.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Mon 14 Dec 17:05

The BBC is now reporting that a new variant of Covid-19 is currently spreading quickly through the south of England, according to Matt Hancock.

Are the vaccines coming on stream likely to protect against any new variants of the virus, or will they need to modify them?



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 14 Dec 17:17

Having an `o` level in both Physics and Metalwork G.G. I think I`m qualified enough to say they will have to be modified to match the new mutant strain

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 14 Dec 18:38

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GG Riva, Mon 14 Dec 17:05

The BBC is now reporting that a new variant of Covid-19 is currently spreading quickly through the south of England, according to Matt Hancock.

Are the vaccines coming on stream likely to protect against any new variants of the virus, or will they need to modify them?


Isn't this what happens every year with flu? Your flu vaccine this year wasn't the same as last year. They look at what strains are most prevalent and immunise against those.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: EEP  
Date:   Mon 14 Dec 19:05

Que the cancellation of the 5 day break over Xmas.....

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Mon 14 Dec 19:58

🤔



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 15 Dec 09:41

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GG Riva, Mon 14 Dec 17:05

The BBC is now reporting that a new variant of Covid-19 is currently spreading quickly through the south of England, according to Matt Hancock.

Are the vaccines coming on stream likely to protect against any new variants of the virus, or will they need to modify them?


A virus with near perfect timing.
Did Hancock greet this time?

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: dander par  
Date:   Tue 15 Dec 10:07

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Rastapari, Tue 15 Dec 09:41

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GG Riva, Mon 14 Dec 17:05

The BBC is now reporting that a new variant of Covid-19 is currently spreading quickly through the south of England, according to Matt Hancock.

Are the vaccines coming on stream likely to protect against any new variants of the virus, or will they need to modify them?


A virus with near perfect timing.
Did Hancock greet this time?


Just in time for Christmas lockdown n make folk think twice about enjoying Christmas Day with family. Ps is the Scottish border closed to stop the strain reaching up here . In a real pandemic all borders would close 🤔
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Tue 15 Dec 10:08

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-should-we-be-worried-about-coronavirus-mutating-and-could-it-affect-the-vaccine-12161566

The virus has been regularly mutating


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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 13:32

The uk government has known about this new strain since September.
I`m guessing all the mini lockdown where trying to prevent it spreading.
Pity it never worked.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 13:32

The uk government has known about this new strain since September.
I`m guessing all the mini lockdown where trying to prevent it spreading.
Pity it never worked.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 20 Dec 13:36

Dave is also multiplying!
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Mon 4 Jan 10:29

Looks like its about to get a whole lot tougher.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 4 Jan 12:02

Boris the Brave saying:- "Schools are very very safe"

Tony Hancock saying :- "When schools are open that spreads the disease more"
"I have mixed emotions about sending my own children"

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 4 Jan 12:07

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Buspasspar, Mon 4 Jan 12:02

Boris the Brave saying:- "Schools are very very safe"

Tony Hancock saying :- "When schools are open that spreads the disease more"
"I have mixed emotions about sending my own children"


Hancock always was "The Rebel" 😉
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: GG Riva  
Date:   Sun 10 Jan 14:30

Knowing someone who's caught a serious dose of Covid doesn't half bring it home. A 3rd cousin of mine in Edinburgh got home from the Royal Infirmary ICU, on Thursday after a two week stay, which included a week on a ventilator, when he was completely out of it. I called him at home earlier today. He was sitting in an armchair but speaking was an effort and his breathing was audibly laboured. I asked him if he had dismissed himself from hospital when he's still clearly unwell. "No", he replied, "the doctors told me I was no longer critically ill and they needed the bed, as the queue was out the door."

He's 59.



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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: parfection  
Date:   Sun 10 Jan 18:10

“Knowing someone who`s caught a serious dose of Covid doesn`t half bring it home.”

Agreed, 100%. My wife’s uncle had a couple of weeks in hospital and he has little memory of most of it. We had the same experience as GG afterwards - when we called he was quite breathless and he felt abandoned at home. He was sent home to make space for others.

Good luck and very best wishes to all on here who have either had this awful condition or had to look out for an ailing loved one.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Sun 10 Jan 19:25

My wife works in a pharmacy. Her former pharmacist was very ill with covid in April of last year. Visited hospital but was not deemed ill enough. This was at the first pandemic height. She lost her taste, smell and was very breathless.

She recovered but was still feeling horrible in August. Has had to gradually build up to walking distances. This is a lady who had done several Ironmans.

In November she again felt a bit strange and went for another covid test. She was positive again. Again no taste, smell and once again breathless.

She is still feeling generally unwell but gradually improving.

She is 29 years old.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 10 Jan 19:56

4 out of our family of 5 had the virus at the end of November. Only my 16 year old avoided it - I don't know how. He had 2 negative tests in a week.
3 of us have had only mild effects although my 14 year old son had headaches and high temperatures for a good fortnight. My wife has the dreaded lingering exhaustion though. She's a school classroom assistant and regularly does 15000 steps a day at work but during the holidays we tried to go out for a wee walk with the dog and she had to turn and go back to the car after 300 yards. I just can't see when she'll be back at work as she doesn't seem to be improving.
I can't help but think we've been lucky though. We're both over 50 and I wouldn't fancy catching it when the health service is as under as much pressure as it is now.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Sun 10 Jan 21:03

Some great posts on here with first hand experience of this horrible virus.... reading them puts it all into perspective

There are no stable rules or individual age and fitness levels that can deter it

But I am dismayed by the idiots who cannot follow the law and ultimately will play a big part in killing their fellow human beings

My thoughts and good wishes to all and hope you make a full recovery

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sun 10 Jan 21:17

Supposedly a gathering of covidiots is happening tomorrow in Edinburgh. No chance of these people seeing sense, they have none, but hopefully the police can quickly disperse them with out to many infections taking place.



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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 10 Jan 21:24

The vast majority of people are doing what's asked of them. Obviously that isn't worth reading so we're subjected to endless dramatic readings from the The "Co-vidiot" diaries.

Best wishes to all those who currently have it and Jimmy H I hope the missus is on the mend

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 10 Jan 22:50

People can have genuine views on how COVID is being handled (like Rasta has), but anyone denying the effects of COVID must be either naive or thick as mince.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Mon 11 Jan 00:06

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jake89, Sun 10 Jan 22:50

People can have genuine views on how COVID is being handled (like Rasta has), but anyone denying the effects of COVID must be either naive or thick as mince.


Who's been doing that?

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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Mon 11 Jan 06:55

Well first day I've felt anywhere near normal, up at 6.30 porridge made along with a nice cup of coffee, Spotify mix on and loving it!

Probably be back in my bed by 10.00am, but here's hoping 🤞😷
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Topic Originator: Thaipar  
Date:   Mon 11 Jan 08:08

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Mon 11 Jan 08:25

Good Man LA

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 11 Jan 18:51

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da_no_1, Mon 11 Jan 00:06

Quote:

jake89, Sun 10 Jan 22:50

People can have genuine views on how COVID is being handled (like Rasta has), but anyone denying the effects of COVID must be either naive or thick as mince.


Who's been doing that?


The woman who went round the hospital down south (to outpatients, on a bank holiday...) with no mask on claiming it was a hoax and there were no wards packed with COVID patients.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Mon 11 Jan 19:33

Follow the rules says PM who went 7 miles from home to take a cycle ride.
Do as you are told not as we do.
That'll ease scepticism.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Mon 11 Jan 19:40

Completely agree Rasta. Do as I say, not as I do. Which is why that idiot used up a load of NHS resources last year and why one of his posse somehow got away with travelling hundreds of miles after testing positive during a lockdown. The same guy who got off with driving to test his eyesight. The same guy who only got sacked/chose to leave because the PMs girlfriend doesn't like him. Our leader is a complete joke.

Oh, and add in his dad who repeatedly and publically broke the rules and then seemed to still not know them.when being interviewed by a woman who's husband has been in hospital for many months now with COVID.

As the campaign says - Led by donkeys.
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Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 06:14

Some decent actual MI here concluding ;

“it is plain, even with much of this pandemic still playing out, that this is already a moment of near unparalleled loss of life.

That this has happened in spite of some of the most severe lockdown restrictions ever endured by this country makes these numbers doubly striking. Some will ask whether they would have been many times higher were it not for the restrictions. Others will argue that mortality could be affected by these indirect decisions for many years to come. Either way, the toll of COVID-19 is becoming clearer, and the numbers are thoroughly depressing.”


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-mortality-rates-in-2020-compare-with-past-decades-and-centuries-12185275


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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 08:46

"The woman who went round the hospital down south (to outpatients, on a bank holiday...) with no mask on claiming it was a hoax and there were no wards packed with COVID patients."

Oh right, her. She`s clearly unhinged though & I tend not to get to upset about what people like her do & say. The vast majority of the country know the score but as usual the focus will be on the tiny few that don`t.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 08:59

She does have a rather concerning band of followers. I'm not sure how political parties, but surely they vet people before allowing them to stand for election?
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 09:34

Our politicians don't seem to scared of covid, breaking the rules left right and centre.
And the majority just accept it and beg for more cell time.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 10:37

"And the majority just accept it and beg for more cell time."

Stop talking p*sh FFS

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 10:44

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da_no_1, Tue 12 Jan 10:37

"And the majority just accept it and beg for more cell time."

Stop talking p*sh FFS


Oh really?
Are there not calls for even tougher lockdown for our politicians to enforce and ignore?
Now talking about being allowed out once a week and absolutely no family or friends....that'll help those suffering loneliness and mental health but hey, there's only covid now.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 10:45

Quote:

Rastapari, Tue 12 Jan 10:44

Quote:

da_no_1, Tue 12 Jan 10:37

"And the majority just accept it and beg for more cell time."

Stop talking p*sh FFS


Oh really?
Are there not calls for even tougher lockdown for our politicians to enforce and ignore?
Now talking about being allowed out once a week and absolutely no family or friends....that'll help those suffering loneliness and mental health but hey, there's only covid now.


Two weeks to flatten the curve.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 10:52

Did you just reply to your own post there Rasta?

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 11:16

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The One Who Knocks, Tue 12 Jan 10:52

Did you just reply to your own post there Rasta?


No, try reading the quoted post, if you're going to try and be smart you gave to get it right, how embarrassing for you.

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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 11:26

No you posted two replies in a row, in the space of a minute, quoting your first post in the second.

We all hate poverty, war, and injustice.
Unlike the rest of you squares.
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 11:35

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Rastapari, Tue 12 Jan 10:44

Quote:

da_no_1, Tue 12 Jan 10:37

"And the majority just accept it and beg for more cell time."

Stop talking p*sh FFS


Oh really?
Are there not calls for even tougher lockdown for our politicians to enforce and ignore?
Now talking about being allowed out once a week and absolutely no family or friends....that'll help those suffering loneliness and mental health but hey, there's only covid now.


No one is begging for more restrictions to be introduced. Again if you want to hold together an argument, stop talking absolute nonsense all the time.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Tue 12 Jan 12:20

If people actually followed the existing rules it would be a start.
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Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 06:53

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P, Tue 12 Jan 06:14

Some decent actual MI here concluding ;

“it is plain, even with much of this pandemic still playing out, that this is already a moment of near unparalleled loss of life.

That this has happened in spite of some of the most severe lockdown restrictions ever endured by this country makes these numbers doubly striking. Some will ask whether they would have been many times higher were it not for the restrictions. Others will argue that mortality could be affected by these indirect decisions for many years to come. Either way, the toll of COVID-19 is becoming clearer, and the numbers are thoroughly depressing.”


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-mortality-rates-in-2020-compare-with-past-decades-and-centuries-12185275


Very interesting read. Thank you.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 13:43

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Rastapari, Tue 12 Jan 09:34

Our politicians don't seem to scared of covid, breaking the rules left right and centre.
And the majority just accept it and beg for more cell time.


What a load of nonsense. The voice of someone who seems to think they are superior
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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 14:13

``No one is begging for more restrictions to be introduced. Again if you want to hold together an argument, stop talking absolute nonsense all the time.``

Well someone must have been asking for more restrictions because they have just been announced by Nicola Sturgeon in the Holyrood Parliament. The Daily Mail is describing her decision as `beating Boris to the punch` so it is likely England will follow suit.

As reported, Ms Sturgeon`s remarks appear contradictory. She says Lockdown is clearly not working but if the situation were to stabilise this would be entirely due to Lockdown. Her logic seems to be if a policy isn`t working, then do more of the same.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 14:20

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BigJPar, Wed 13 Jan 13:43

Quote:

Rastapari, Tue 12 Jan 09:34

Our politicians don't seem to scared of covid, breaking the rules left right and centre.
And the majority just accept it and beg for more cell time.


What a load of nonsense. The voice of someone who seems to think they are superior


You're saying politicians haven't been caught breaking the rules, really?

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 14:22

And another friend gets their urgent cancer treatment "paused" because of covid.
Nothing but covid covid covid.
This is potentially 3 kids left without a parent....but hey....covid right?

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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 14:37

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Rastapari, Wed 13 Jan 14:22

And another friend gets their urgent cancer treatment "paused" because of covid.
Nothing but covid covid covid.
This is potentially 3 kids left without a parent....but hey....covid right?


How many people with cancer do you know?
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Topic Originator: widtink  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 14:42

Be careful..



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Topic Originator: dave67  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 14:44

In the last year I`ve lost 4 friends from cancer. Rasta has a wider friends list than me
So probably a fair few would be my answer

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 15:19

Sammer - see my post from Tue 12 Jan 10:37

Rasta states "the majority just accept it and beg for more cell time"

Think you`ve missed the point I was trying to make - that he should work for a tabloid with all the sensationalist garbage he posts.

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Topic Originator: sammer  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 15:49

He was using emotive language I agree.
But the majority of citizens still support Lockdown despite little progress after nine months.
As for supporting tougher restrictions, there have been posters on here asking that Nicola Sturgeon do exactly that, which she has announced this afternoon.

So in terms of fact Rastapari was on the right lines, even although he shows little sympathy for the valid reasons citizens might have for supporting Lockdown.

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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 15:55

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sammer, Wed 13 Jan 15:49

He was using emotive language I agree.
But the majority of citizens still support Lockdown despite little progress after nine months.
As for supporting tougher restrictions, there have been posters on here asking that Nicola Sturgeon do exactly that, which she has announced this afternoon.

So in terms of fact Rastapari was on the right lines, even although he shows little sympathy for the valid reasons citizens might have for supporting Lockdown.


I think what's confrontational is when he hints that others are blindly following the rules, and he is somehow more educated and knows better.
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Topic Originator: BigJPar  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 15:59

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widtink, Wed 13 Jan 14:42

Be careful..


Was only asking so as to put things into context. Tragic situation all round and know doubt repeated thousands of times.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 16:16

Quote:

BigJPar, Wed 13 Jan 14:37

Quote:

Rastapari, Wed 13 Jan 14:22

And another friend gets their urgent cancer treatment "paused" because of covid.
Nothing but covid covid covid.
This is potentially 3 kids left without a parent....but hey....covid right?


How many people with cancer do you know?


Only one now, the other two died with similar circumstances, have I breached a limit like?

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Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 16:35

1500+ deaths announced to-day ( measure death occuring within 28 days of a positve Covid test) going to bust 100,000 before the end of January.

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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 16:38

"But the majority of citizens still support Lockdown despite little progress after nine months."

Cases were extremely high in April 2020 and, after a few weeks of lockdown, Scotland went through a stage of no deaths for 20+ days in July/August. I am guessing that is why the citizens, in general, support the lockdown.

If the vaccine(s) had been developed in the summer, we would be largely out of this - assuming the vaccines are effective.

I think it`s difficult to construct an argument that the lockdown didn`t work in reducing deaths when there are numbers to prove the contrary.

For what it`s worth, I do not think anyone should be getting vital treatment stopped regardless of whether there is a lockdown or not.

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Topic Originator: Parfect68  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 17:51

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DA-go Par Adonis, Wed 13 Jan 16:38

"But the majority of citizens still support Lockdown despite little progress after nine months."

Cases were extremely high in April 2020 and, after a few weeks of lockdown, Scotland went through a stage of no deaths for 20+ days in July/August. I am guessing that is why the citizens, in general, support the lockdown.

If the vaccine(s) had been developed in the summer, we would be largely out of this - assuming the vaccines are effective.

I think it`s difficult to construct an argument that the lockdown didn`t work in reducing deaths when there are numbers to prove the contrary.

For what it`s worth, I do not think anyone should be getting vital treatment stopped regardless of whether there is a lockdown or not.


From my understanding, whilst the local nhs is indeed, unfortunately having to stop some elective surgeries and outpatient appointments due to current covid situation, to the best of my knowledge there is NO planned stopping of cancer treatment or appts for urgent cancer referrals

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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 18:34

I should have added that I've not any first hand experience of anyone having treatment stopped.

Indeed, it's quite the contrary for the limited contacts I have unfortunate enough to be in that position.

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Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 19:13

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Rastapari, Wed 13 Jan 16:16

Quote:

BigJPar, Wed 13 Jan 14:37

Quote:

Rastapari, Wed 13 Jan 14:22

And another friend gets their urgent cancer treatment "paused" because of covid.
Nothing but covid covid covid.
This is potentially 3 kids left without a parent....but hey....covid right?


How many people with cancer do you know?


Only one now, the other two died with similar circumstances, have I breached a limit like?


What I'm interested in is where are these people who are having their cancer treatment paused. I.e. which part of the country.

Like Rasta I know several people currently undergoing cancer treatment in Aberdeen. None of them have had their treatment paused. One has also just started treatment.

Just interested why some people are having their treatment paused.
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Topic Originator: wetherby  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 19:42

All elective surgery at Ayrshire and Arran NHS is postponed.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 20:15

Quote:

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1500+ deaths announced to-day ( measure death occuring within 28 days of a positve Covid test) going to bust 100,000 before the end of January.


I can offer context to one, his family were told because he was on an experimental treatment and could not be "observed" they couldn't continue the treatment...he died waiting for it to resume, I'll admit I can understand that to an extent...the family however are understandably upset.
One I have no real context other than his treatment was paused, he died in that period.
The other is in the London area and been told that the treatments will again have to be postponed, obviously worrying.
I hope that satisfies you, if you have a look there are people taking the NHS to court over this in various areas.
Given it's me I understand your scepticism, I'll say this though...after thaipars performance last night and various comments today....you could all use a little compassion about you.

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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 20:29

I think most of us do. It's clear that different areas of the UK are interpreting the rules and implementing the guidelines differently to others.

There's also no doubt in my mind that massive mistakes have been made when a little common sense, and indeed compassion, would have seen a different outcome e.g. trained nurses getting stopped from taking deteriorating parents out of care homes when they wanted to look after them.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 21:43

Rasta the reactions on here might be different if you approached this forum with a bit more tolerance of other peoples' opinions rather than insisting we're all morons who blindly follow every instruction our government (not just the big bad Tories) give us.

Just a thought?

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 21:53

Quote:

da_no_1, Wed 13 Jan 21:43

Rasta the reactions on here might be different if you approached this forum with a bit more tolerance of other peoples' opinions rather than insisting we're all morons who blindly follow every instruction our government (not just the big bad Tories) give us.

Just a thought?


As you can see from my post it's been an emotive time, I only come on here as myself reacting to what I react to at the time, nothing more, nothing less.
Perhaps you are right.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 21:56

As dark as it sounds, there's probably been a review of scenarios including deaths of, for example, people with cancer. No doubt questions around number of deaths due to lack of treatment Vs deaths due to covid. Essentially breaking humans downs to numbers of a spreadsheet.

It's been interesting hearing some in their 80s suggesting to immunise the workers first as they've lived their lives.

Hindsight is a great thing, but I hope people don't forget.
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Topic Originator: aaaaaaaaaargh  
Date:   Wed 13 Jan 22:23

Breaking humans down into numbers in spreadsheets has been done for decades. What confuses me about this pandemic is that the rules on how we use these numbers seem to have changed.

If we `follow the science` to reduce road deaths, then driving would be banned. If that seems ridiculous, then we could do something simpler like banning men, or under 25s, from driving.

If we `followed the science` to reduce cancer deaths, then smoking would be banned, drinking would be banned, and people would be given free fruit, veg, and gym memberships by the government.

Science can provide us with estimates of probabilities. What we do with them is pure politics.

I`m not naive enough to say that lockdown has no effect on infection rates, but the clear panic from government is less about saving lives and more to avoid criticism for a massively underfunded health service.

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Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Thu 14 Jan 08:41

Quote:

Rastapari, Wed 13 Jan 20:15

Quote:

wetherby, Wed 13 Jan 16:35

1500+ deaths announced to-day ( measure death occuring within 28 days of a positve Covid test) going to bust 100,000 before the end of January.


I can offer context to one, his family were told because he was on an experimental treatment and could not be "observed" they couldn't continue the treatment...he died waiting for it to resume, I'll admit I can understand that to an extent...the family however are understandably upset.
One I have no real context other than his treatment was paused, he died in that period.
The other is in the London area and been told that the treatments will again have to be postponed, obviously worrying.
I hope that satisfies you, if you have a look there are people taking the NHS to court over this in various areas.
Given it's me I understand your scepticism, I'll say this though...after thaipars performance last night and various comments today....you could all use a little compassion about you.


Thank you for that Rasta. The people I know she recently lucky then that everything in my area seems to not really have changed.
Considering the state we are told London was and is in that just shows the impact of covid.
My sympathies are with anyone who has lost friends or family through covid or as a direct result.
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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 13:22

As an aside are y'all following the sex guidelines, no kidding, wear a mask and try to use positions that face away from each other?
Science.

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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 13:37

Sounds more like a fetish site you've stumbled across there.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 14:05

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DA-go Par Adonis, Fri 15 Jan 13:37

Sounds more like a fetish site you've stumbled across there.


Far from it government recommendations.

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Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 16:42

Boris and Priti will be along soon dressed in appropriate sexual attire to give a demonstration :)

I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry.
Thucydides.
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Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 17:26

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Rastapari, Fri 15 Jan 13:22

As an aside are y'all following the sex guidelines, no kidding, wear a mask and try to use positions that face away from each other?
Science.


You never look at the mantelpiece when your poking the fire. No change there then.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 17:59

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Buspasspar, Fri 15 Jan 16:42

Boris and Priti will be along soon dressed in appropriate sexual attire to give a demonstration :)


Shudder...

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 17:59

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Quote:

Rastapari, Fri 15 Jan 13:22

As an aside are y'all following the sex guidelines, no kidding, wear a mask and try to use positions that face away from each other?
Science.


You never look at the mantelpiece when your poking the fire. No change there then.


😂😂

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: Buspasspar  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 18:05

Topic Originator: Rastapari like | nolike
Date: Fri 15 Jan 17:59

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Buspasspar, Fri 15 Jan 16:42

Boris and Priti will be along soon dressed in appropriate sexual attire to give a demonstration :)


Shudder...

I`m sure he did rasta :)

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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 18:38

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Buspasspar, Fri 15 Jan 16:42

Boris and Priti will be along soon dressed in appropriate sexual attire to give a demonstration :)


Not even with yours... 🤮
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Topic Originator: londonparsfan  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 19:31

LuxPar has this one covered 😂
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 20:43

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Buspasspar, Fri 15 Jan 18:05

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Date: Fri 15 Jan 17:59

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Buspasspar, Fri 15 Jan 16:42

Boris and Priti will be along soon dressed in appropriate sexual attire to give a demonstration :)


Shudder...

I`m sure he did rasta :)


Not gonna lie, I just laughed a fine red wine through my nose at that 😂

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 20:51

On a slightly more serious note, deaths within a 60 day period from a first covid diagnosis are going to be counted in the covid death numbers.
This is getting silly now.
How the **** do we get out of lockdown if we're using those numbers?
I'll take bets at this point.
That and serious talk of 6 pm curfews...

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 21:20

Not sure that's right, Rasta.

PHE (note: not PHS) have been reporting the 60 day figure since the summer. The actual measure is within 28 days of a positive test but they also started including 60 days too.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 22:13

Yes but doesn`t the ONS only use deaths where covid is stated as a contributory cause by the coroner on the death certificate? The 28 days is for public health bodies to get a quicker look at potential figures.

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Topic Originator: davepars  
Date:   Fri 15 Jan 23:49

Let`s flip this. If we were only reporting deaths of positive cases in the last day, instead of 28 days, the government would be accused of a cover up.
I`m no fan of the cretins running the country, but they are in a lose lose when it comes to reporting deaths.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 09:08

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davepars, Fri 15 Jan 23:49

Let`s flip this. If we were only reporting deaths of positive cases in the last day, instead of 28 days, the government would be accused of a cover up.
I`m no fan of the cretins running the country, but they are in a lose lose when it comes to reporting deaths.


Not the case, I would have expected them to play it down, why are we just getting the actual deaths from covid alone, no underlying issues and not about 80 without having to go freedom of information requests?

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 09:19

Have you tried the Public Health Scotland and England data portal, Rasta? All this data is released. The Dunfermline Press pulls it's data from the daily cases by neighbourhood report (usually for some sensationalist click-bait to say there's a bad outbreak in ONE west Fife neighbourhood).
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 09:22

Because if you are some poor unfortunate who has been been made gravely ill through covid and it has left you so weak and frail that a case of pneumonia kills you while technically it`s the pneumonia that is the cause of death really it was down to covid. In the ONS figures that death will be registered as a covid death. If however you tested positive for covid three weeks ago but then unfortunately got run over by a bus the ONS will NOT register that as a covid death.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 09:41

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The One Who Knocks, Sat 16 Jan 09:22

Because if you are some poor unfortunate who has been been made gravely ill through covid and it has left you so weak and frail that a case of pneumonia kills you while technically it`s the pneumonia that is the cause of death really it was down to covid. In the ONS figures that death will be registered as a covid death. If however you tested positive for covid three weeks ago but then unfortunately got run over by a bus the ONS will NOT register that as a covid death.


And yet a local overdose was🤔
So there was a request done up in Tayside, from March to Decdmber MHS Tayside confirmed 6 deaths from covid alone, 6, there were more suicides.

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Topic Originator: wee eck  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 09:59

Aren`t the figures for `excess deaths` published to illustrate the number of additional deaths which have occurred in a period compared to a `normal` year? These figures will include those who have died directly from Covid but also those who have died from another condition which may have been exacerbated by the existence of Covid or by resources being diverted from its treatment because of pressures placed on the NHS by Covid.

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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 10:14

The local overdose wouldn`t have been included on the ONS figures unless covid was mentioned on the death certificate.
As for the Tayside figures, which I`ll take on your word as being correct, that would six deaths where only covid resulted in death. No other underlying health conditions contributed to the death.

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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 10:19

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Rastapari, Sat 16 Jan 09:08

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davepars, Fri 15 Jan 23:49

Let`s flip this. If we were only reporting deaths of positive cases in the last day, instead of 28 days, the government would be accused of a cover up.
I`m no fan of the cretins running the country, but they are in a lose lose when it comes to reporting deaths.


Not the case, I would have expected them to play it down, why are we just getting the actual deaths from covid alone, no underlying issues and not about 80 without having to go freedom of information requests?


Maybe the thought is that playing it down means people are less likely to do their bit by not mixing and enabling transmission than they do now?
When you think about it, Sunak's money off meals scheme in August, closely followed by the students returning to their digs were massive errors.
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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 10:24

Reports from Norway that 23 oldet people died within days of getting the vaccine, Pfizer "helping" with enquiries allegedly.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 10:28

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Rastapari, Sat 16 Jan 10:24

Reports from Norway that 23 oldet people died within days of getting the vaccine, Pfizer "helping" with enquiries allegedly.


Where was this "reported"?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 10:32

The Norwegian health authorities are reporting that there is no certain link between 23 elderly and frail patients dying after receiving the vaccine and aren`t concerned.
The full article from the British Medical Journal below for anyone interested.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 10:38

Thanks TOWK

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 10:40

Meanwhile some rancid scumbags are trying to convince Scottish care home residents and staff not to get vaccinated.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19015057.covid-scottish-care-homes-targeted-anti-vaccine-groups-wholly-despicable-campaign/



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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 12:27

Rasta, you could get a job at the Daily Mail. Have a headline like: 23 dead after receiving vaccine and then have in small writing at the end of the article "...because of pre-existing health conditions". 🤦‍♂️
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Topic Originator: moviescot  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 12:47

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The One Who Knocks, Sat 16 Jan 10:32

The Norwegian health authorities are reporting that there is no certain link between 23 elderly and frail patients dying after receiving the vaccine and aren`t concerned.
The full article from the British Medical Journal below for anyone interested.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149


That's good because Rasta trusts the BMJ so that's put to bed
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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 20:43

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moviescot, Sat 16 Jan 12:47

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The One Who Knocks, Sat 16 Jan 10:32

The Norwegian health authorities are reporting that there is no certain link between 23 elderly and frail patients dying after receiving the vaccine and aren`t concerned.
The full article from the British Medical Journal below for anyone interested.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149


That's good because Rasta trusts the BMJ so that's put to bed


How does that song by Bjork go again.......

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 22:15

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da_no_1, Sat 16 Jan 20:43

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moviescot, Sat 16 Jan 12:47

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The One Who Knocks, Sat 16 Jan 10:32

The Norwegian health authorities are reporting that there is no certain link between 23 elderly and frail patients dying after receiving the vaccine and aren`t concerned.
The full article from the British Medical Journal below for anyone interested.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149


That's good because Rasta trusts the BMJ so that's put to bed


How does that song by Bjork go again.......


Is it the last track from Debut you're talking about?
It's the ⚓ song not the w⚓ song.

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sat 16 Jan 22:34

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sadindiefreak, Sat 16 Jan 22:15

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da_no_1, Sat 16 Jan 20:43

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moviescot, Sat 16 Jan 12:47

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The One Who Knocks, Sat 16 Jan 10:32

The Norwegian health authorities are reporting that there is no certain link between 23 elderly and frail patients dying after receiving the vaccine and aren`t concerned.
The full article from the British Medical Journal below for anyone interested.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149


That's good because Rasta trusts the BMJ so that's put to bed


How does that song by Bjork go again.......


Is it the last track from Debut you're talking about?
It's the ⚓ song not the w⚓ song.


😁😁😁😁😁

I was more thinking about the one about someone being "oh so quiet"......

But if the cap fits an aw that

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 09:15

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jake89, Sat 16 Jan 12:27

Rasta, you could get a job at the Daily Mail. Have a headline like: 23 dead after receiving vaccine and then have in small writing at the end of the article "...because of pre-existing health conditions". 🤦‍♂️


I'm glad you posted that, a but like 99.8 percent of covid deaths, underlying conditions.

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Topic Originator: Rastapari  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 09:19

It was the Norwegian Health Service that released the news..
Cases on Germany, Israel now being looked into.
You lot are just terrified of any contrary opinion of covid, a disease so virulent there's no need for mask disposal bins.
If course it will always, like covid, be "underlying conditions".

You see how this lot treat the weakest in society, you call conspiracy, I call the wildest one of all that these evil, thieving Tories are busting a gut to save your lives, a belief in that is truly special take a bow, you're in Wonderland.

Carole Baskin fed Rasta to a tiger.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 09:53

Why would anyone think or suggest the Tories are "busting a gut" on this? We've got an excess of deaths not seen since war time.

Rasta, whether you mean it or not, you're spreading dangerous misinformation regarding the COVID vaccine.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 09:55

There are other countries, not run by the Tories, who seem to be tackling the issue in a similar way.

Supporting a lockdown and wearing masks doesn't automatically equate to being fine with multi-million pound contracts being handed out to friends of the govt, ill-equipped to deliver, or with govt aides ignoring the rules for a jaunt up north.

Based on the experience of actual doctors and nurses, it seems to be a disease that affects a lot of people. The fact they have underlying health conditions, in most cases, doesn't detract from the fact that they wouldn't be on ventilators, taking up a hospital bed, if it weren't for having Covid.

This obviously has a knock on effect for everyone as there's not much room in hospitals for many more people and the NHS staff are working round the clock to keep things going.

I don't like what we're having to do, but don't see much choice - short of opening things up and watching pictures of old people dying in corridors until they're all gone. Interestingly, that option would be quite 'Tory' as it would get rid of a bunch of people draining the state's resources. I've no doubt that Cummings has a spreadsheet somewhere, plotting the break-even point between cost of furlough and savings from paying out state pension and benefits.

As a total aside, we all had the chance to ensure there would never be a Tory majority in parliament (for as long as we're part of the UK) in a long-forgotten 2011 referendum. Only a third of those that voted took that opportunity.

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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 10:31

Mask disposal bins... There's a business idea! Get the government to make it law that they are classed as hazardous waste. Every home and business needs them as it's illegal to mix this with general refuse.
Bring in [enter name of appropriate Tory party major donor] "specialist" contractor and award them a highly lucrative deal.
Sounds like the way forward, no?
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 11:05

Michelle Mone composing an email as we speak...

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Topic Originator: da_no_1  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 11:31

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Rastapari, Sun 17 Jan 09:19

It was the Norwegian Health Service that released the news..
Cases on Germany, Israel now being looked into.
You lot are just terrified of any contrary opinion of covid, a disease so virulent there's no need for mask disposal bins.
If course it will always, like covid, be "underlying conditions".

You see how this lot treat the weakest in society, you call conspiracy, I call the wildest one of all that these evil, thieving Tories are busting a gut to save your lives, a belief in that is truly special take a bow, you're in Wonderland.


"Looked into" by who? The same people who "reported" your last pile of p*sh?

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 11:38

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DA-go Par Adonis, Sun 17 Jan 11:05

Michelle Mone composing an email as we speak...


"Hiya Boris

A pure loved yer wee update last week and that. Mind a telt ye a stole that underwear firm aff ma husband and then ran it intae the groond and you said ah wud make a pure great lord? Goat an even better wan fur ye. How about you gie me a wee bit eh the action on yon covid. Ah could have they boys in the Philippines knockin' oot lacey facemasks by end eh the week. Aye, they'll offer f**k all protection but ah'll dae ye a wee deal. What dae ye hink?

Cheers pal

Big Meesh xoxo

p.s. let me know if ah need tae threaten tae pull oot all ma dealin's in Scotland again cause these nationalists are gettin pure rowdy and that. Jist like ma da, it'll just be a promise easily broken and a won't actually follow through. "
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 12:52

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Rastapari, Sun 17 Jan 09:15

I'm glad you posted that, a but like 99.8 percent of covid deaths, underlying conditions.


Once again lying about statistics.
These figures are for England and Wales but the percentage of deaths with underlying conditions is 91.11%

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/percentageofcovid19deathswithapreexistingconditionseptember2019to2020?:uri=aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/percentageofcovid19deathswithapreexistingconditionseptember2019to2020

But let's actually talk about what these underlying conditions are that people are dying from.
Are there really that many people at deaths door and Covid is just tipping them over the edge?

Asthma
High Blood Pressure
Dementia
Down Syndrome
Diabetes
Smoking
Pregnancy.

These conditions I have listed are all counted as underlying conditions.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of those people who die from covid but have these conditions would not be dying if they didn't catch covid.
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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 13:46

Jake / Da-go.
This is starting sound like a Rab C Nesbit influenced Yes Minister.
I like it. 😀
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 15:55

We buy a bunch of wheely bins and some bleach spray, both as cheaply as possible, obviously. Cut out a little letter box for 'safe' disposal.

Stick a Union Flag on each one of them, write on a snappy phrase, "Cov-id, Bin-it, Beat-it", is my working idea, but I'm happy to change it for something better.

Then we join the local Conservative party (Rasta can give us the link to the application form), cosy up to the top brass at a virtual conference, pitch our idea and tell them we're ready to go.

Next thing, we're millionaires several times over and the Pars have bought the next two players off the Rovers' conveyor belt with our loose change.

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Topic Originator: jake89  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 16:08

Good idea, but not quite.

What we do first is get local authority waste collection contracts and then just reuse existing bins but mark them as COVID safe.
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Topic Originator: JTH123  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 17:25

I think you're being a little "conservative" Da Go. This an emergency situation so waiting 9 months till the conference is far too long. I'd be expecting to have paid for my first Barbados villa by then.
There are compelling grounds for an advance payment of at least £10m of working capital to buy overpriced equipment and sign up other like minded directors' companies to service level agreements to do the actual work involved. That way, if the pesky vaccine does work, we can pocket the cash from selling the assets, quickly fold the company and scarper.
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 18:05

If I'm being 100% honest, I didn't check when the next party conference was due.

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 Re: Coronavirus (part 5)...
Topic Originator: P  
Date:   Sun 17 Jan 18:17

Some positive information for a change, just hope the actuaries modelling plays out along these lines

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/17/first-fruits-of-vaccine-rollout-should-be-seen-in-weeks-experts-predict?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


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