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 Post office scandal
Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Fri 24 May 11:50

In my break I watched some of the questioning today and my question is whether this enquiry will lead to potential litigation through the courts for private or public prosecution of those in charge of the post office.
I genuinely cannot believe the responses coming from Vennells that she was not aware and proceeded to prosecutions with the information that was available to her when the post masters were prosecuted.
Really shocking corporate management that destroyed lives and led to early deaths.
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 24 May 12:01

It`s not just her though. There is a whole gallery of them that should be utterly ashamed of what they have done. It actually beggars belief and it throws into doubt our entire justice system.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: parsmad68  
Date:   Fri 24 May 12:15

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The One Who Knocks, Fri 24 May 12:01

It`s not just her though. There is a whole gallery of them that should be utterly ashamed of what they have done. It actually beggars belief and it throws into doubt our entire justice system.


I know nothing of what happened previously and watched what has been said and within 10 minutes I believe that she and others should go to jail. The testimony is damning by their actions and reactions to the sub post masters. I thought that these people had a duty of care to employees. I really hope that this enquiry opens a public prosecution and sends these people to jail.
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 24 May 13:21

Oh you should have heard some of the earlier testimony a few weeks back. These cretins were hiding evidence and tipping off others so that the doubts over the computer system wouldn`t come to light.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Fri 24 May 13:24

I think prosecustions are actually likely.

Hopefully the water companies will follow suit if evidence exists.

That being said, we need to find an easier and cheaper way to bring prosecutions.
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 24 May 13:28

Cheap and easy prosecutions is what led to this in the first place.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: parsfan  
Date:   Fri 24 May 13:59

Of all the damning stuff to come come out this week, this, from The Guardian, really sums up her attitude.

In relation to the PO`s legal expert, Susan Crighton:

Vennells wrote in a memo, seen by the inquiry, that she had “put her integrity as a lawyer above the interests of the business”.

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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Fri 24 May 15:48

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The One Who Knocks, Fri 24 May 13:28

Cheap and easy prosecutions is what led to this in the first place.


They weren`t cheap, just folk hiding evidence and spending 300k to chase down 25k.
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks  
Date:   Fri 24 May 17:07

So each of the 900 prosecutions cost 300k?

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 24 May 17:16

No prosecutions for Grenfell and probably none from this, rich people don`t go to jail.

Where`s Michelle Mone by the way?
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Fri 24 May 17:52

"No prosecutions for Grenfell and probably none from this, rich people don`t go to jail."

Wasn`t Geoffrey Archer quite well off before he did porridge.

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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Fri 24 May 17:57

I`ve got no idea. But corporate lawyers are far from cheap.
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert  
Date:   Fri 24 May 18:19

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veteraneastender, Fri 24 May 17:52

"No prosecutions for Grenfell and probably none from this, rich people don`t go to jail."

Wasn`t Geoffrey Archer quite well off before he did porridge.


That was over 20yrs ago, lot changed since then, still got a seat in the House of Lords though!
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Sat 25 May 14:16

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LochgellyAlbert, Fri 24 May 18:19

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veteraneastender, Fri 24 May 17:52

"No prosecutions for Grenfell and probably none from this, rich people don`t go to jail."

Wasn`t Geoffrey Archer quite well off before he did porridge.


That was over 20yrs ago, lot changed since then, still got a seat in the House of Lords though!


Why shouldn`t he. He served his time.

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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 27 May 12:40

There’s no way he should have been allowed near the Lords - having served his sentence does not alter the fact he is a convicted liar.
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 28 May 10:43

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veteraneastender, Mon 27 May 12:40

There’s no way he should have been allowed near the Lords - having served his sentence does not alter the fact he is a convicted liar.


I can`t agree with that. Conviction spent, get on with life. The liar part is laughable. Just empty every parliament in the world right now.

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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: ipswichpar  
Date:   Tue 28 May 11:55

I`m with Veteran on this one.

His own party kicked him out. It was just a gap in the rules that meant he didn`t lose his peerage as well.

I cant see any argument that someone lies in court and gets jailed for 4 years should keep a seat in the house of lords.
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Tue 28 May 14:08

He perjured himself in Court, nothing to do with Parliament.

MPs have legal privilege to be “economical with the truth” in the Commons - but not in Court.

His admittance to the Lords is everything that is wrong with the establishment and Parliamentary procedures.

Mind you, I doubt he’ll need to claim his £300 daily attendance nice little earner ?

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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: PARrot  
Date:   Tue 28 May 14:44

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veteraneastender, Tue 28 May 14:08

He perjured himself in Court, nothing to do with Parliament.

MPs have legal privilege to be “economical with the truth” I’m the Commons - but not in Court.

His admittance to the Lords is everything that is wrong with the establishment and Parliamentary procedures.

Mind you, I doubt he’ll need to claim his £300 daily attendance nice little earner ?


OK I changed my mind.

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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: thebear  
Date:   Mon 3 Jun 19:29

The question I have is who in government knew and are they now being pritected
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: veteraneastender  
Date:   Mon 3 Jun 20:20

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thebear, Mon 3 Jun 19:29

The question I have is who in government knew and are they now being pritected


A Tory MP took up the issue on behalf of a constituent and then became involved more generally supporting cases.

The government, indeed all MPs, were aware of the Post Office action.
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 Re: Post office scandal
Topic Originator: desparado  
Date:   Tue 4 Jun 09:42

Topic Originator: veteraneastender like
Date: Tue 28 May 14:08

He perjured himself in Court, nothing to do with Parliament.

MPs have legal privilege to be “economical with the truth” in the Commons - but not in Court.

>His admittance to the Lords is everything that is wrong with the establishment and Parliamentary procedures.<

Mind you, I doubt he’ll need to claim his £300 daily attendance nice little earner ?


Having a House of Lords is what is wrong ( one of many things of course ) and how easily someone can be parachuted in/ be bribed as an MP with a future cloak of ermine. The whole thing is rotten to the core.

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