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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 20 Feb 17:04
Labour Gov are proposing a change in how single malt can be classified. This will be very damaging to the Scotch Whisky Industry.
>>>THE Scotch whisky industry and the First Minister have slammed the UK Government after it unveiled plans for a legal definition of English single malt whisky.
Currently, single malts must be made in one single distillery, but now it has been reported that new rules would mean English whisky could be made in several different locations – drastically cutting costs for whisky distillers there.
This has sparked fears of the market being flooded with cheap, low-quality products, ruining the reputation of “single malt” whisky.
The Scotch Whisky Association and Scottish Government insiders claim the plans could undermine the £5.4billion whisky industry in Scotland.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 20 Feb 20:06
Don’t think this will catch on with the tourists, they will know the difference and may actually increase the takings for the Scotch Whisky business as people would prefer the proper stuff.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 20 Feb 20:37
The Japanese have been big players in the whisky world since they started dabbling with "Scotch" distillation over a century ago.
Their pioneer, Masataka Taketsuru, did part of his training in Bo`ness, (owned by James Calder & Son of Alloa) and married a Scots girl from Kirkintilloch.
They produce some of the top brands including a few "World Best" accolades in blended and single malt categories.
Not sure if that qualifies as "proper stuff" though.
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Topic Originator: desparado
Date: Thu 20 Feb 21:13
Point being that English governments will undermine anything that Scotland excels at. We cannot and will not be allowed to be better in any way shape or form.
“ British Whisky”……” British Haggis “…….”British Whisky”……….we are sleep walking into complete Anglisization..
Health Service and Scottish water are in the cross hairs, swiftly followed by…..U.K. law…..Scots law will be nullified within a decade.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 20 Feb 21:42
I could do with some right noo to calm the steam comin oot ma ears!
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Thu 20 Feb 21:44
Can’t argue with that logic Desperado.
Just for background, Scotch whisky gained prominence over Irish whiskey due to two major occurrences in the early 20th century.
1. Prohibition in the USA. Scotch was significantly bootlegged from Canada more than Irish, largely as a result of the next event.
2. Irish independence (26 of 32 counties) from the U.K. prevented most Irish distillers, such as Jameson of Dublin, from preferential duty tariffs with British dominions such as Canada, Australia and New Zealand etc.
This double whammy very nearly crippled the Irish whiskey industry permanently.
Post Edited (Thu 20 Feb 21:45)
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Topic Originator: Athletico
Date: Thu 20 Feb 23:18
Japanese whisky is sensational, and as a big whisky drinker it is just as good as ours.
Anyway on the English Whisky GI proposal, it needs binned, it`s stretches the legal definition of `Single Malt` to the absolute limits.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 20 Feb 23:28
Do other nations also stick to this definition of single malt?
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 20 Feb 23:43
Are there any whisky distilleries in England and, if so, where do they get their water from?
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Fri 21 Feb 10:59
Well they steal oor wind, oil, gas and electricity so you can work that oot yersel…!
Post Edited (Fri 21 Feb 11:05)
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Fri 21 Feb 11:49
Interesting. I can`t say I was aware of any of them or their wares.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Fri 21 Feb 12:17
I’ve had a couple of them and they are ok, nothing special going on but certainly not bad.
I also had a French blended whisky recently ‘Gwalarn - Celtic Whisky Distillerie’
It was a blend of Scotch malt whisky, German malt, and French single malt. It was very good, very peaty but not more-ish which is good for me as I’m a whisky pig.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Fri 21 Feb 14:01
I reckon the French wine snob community felt the same way when other countries/regions started to produce their own fine vintages - Chile, Australia, South Africa and California come to mind.
Incidentally, here`s a piece of fairly useless knowledge that I picked up on.
It`s illegal in the UK to have a brewery and distillery located on the same site - likewise a winery co-located with a brewery.....presumably applies to any combination of the three production facilities.
A few years ago Scott Williams told me they wanted to try wine production in a vacant area of the Kelliebank brewery, but HMRC rules prevent such.
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Topic Originator: Tad Allagash
Date: Fri 21 Feb 19:23
Could you tell in a blind tasting if it’s made in one single distillery?
If so, then it doesn’t need protection.
If not, then it’s a scam.
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Fri 21 Feb 19:50
That doesn`t make sense. It`s not a scam. Single malt means that all the drink in the bottle has been distilled at one single location. If not then it`s not a single malt. It can still taste perfectly fine, can even be the best whisky you`ve ever tried, but by traditional definition it can`t be a single malt.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 21 Feb 21:22
Who would actually buy an english single malt, when you could have a real Whisky?
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Topic Originator: parsmad68
Date: Sat 22 Feb 05:35
Quote:
red-star-par, Fri 21 Feb 21:22
Who would actually buy an english single malt, when you could have a real Whisky?
A chain mail wearing, St George’s cross painted face, lurvly jubbly Englishman might.
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Sat 22 Feb 07:23
...says a flea infested sporran wearing, Saltire painted ugly mug chips on both shoulders Jock!
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 22 Feb 09:17
No relation to Big Jock ?
The Steins were part of what David Hyman described as the Clackmannanshire whisky mafia - from his excellent 3 part BBC documentary a few years back.
John Jameson (a native of Alloa, not Dublin) was a "made man" in that clan.
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