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Topic Originator: Raymie the Legend
Date: Fri 30 May 12:56
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/captain-toms-daughter-hannah-ingram-moore-pay-double/[\url]
Banned from running a charity for ten year. That will sort her out. Meanwhile the £1.5m will be burning a hole in her pocket.
Get her in the jail and we will have our money back, please.
Michelle Mone-esque
It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Fri 30 May 13:24
Should be jailed.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 31 May 17:49
His family should have had no direct control of the funds - there are plenty of trustworthy retired military personnel who could have formed an oversight committee.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 1 Jun 21:00
Too many people like his family who are just ready to grab the money.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 1 Jun 21:34
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 1 Jun 21:53
Don`t worry, the Brexit savings will more than pay the hotel bills.
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Topic Originator: ballingrypar
Date: Sun 1 Jun 22:14
echo that alter ego
Post Edited (Sun 01 Jun 22:29)
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Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Sun 1 Jun 22:43
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 1 Jun 21:34
Tbh it doesn’t matter now! Another 1000 illegals into Britain yesterday to take residence in our 4 star hotels getting fed and personal care on our NHS..
I’m sure captain Tom wouldn’t be a happy guy after what he fought for..
250 million a month it’s costing us taxpayers to house these fighting Muslims and we don’t check their backgrounds…..Captain Tom will be turning in his grave what Britain has turned into now….it’s embarrassing
He definitely wouldn`t be happy after what he fought for.
He fought to defeat fascists and yet here you are our very own home grown version.
Nobody fought in WW2 for what you believe in they fought against that.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 1 Jun 23:35
Agreed Sadine.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 2 Jun 04:57
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 1 Jun 21:34
Tbh it doesn’t matter now! Another 1000 illegals into Britain yesterday to take residence in our 4 star hotels getting fed and personal care on our NHS..
I’m sure captain Tom wouldn’t be a happy guy after what he fought for..
250 million a month it’s costing us taxpayers to house these fighting Muslims and we don’t check their backgrounds…..Captain Tom will be turning in his grave what Britain has turned into now….it’s embarrassing
Did Brexit not stop the immigration and save us £350m a week? Two birds with one stone I thought?
Also, since when were Holiday Inns and Travelodges classed as 4 star hotels?
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Mon 2 Jun 10:37
"Also, since when were Holiday Inns and Travelodges classed as 4 star hotels?"
I suspect the thousands of our own indigenous homeless would be content with an upgrade to these types of accommodation.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Mon 2 Jun 11:19
`I suspect the thousands of our own indigenous homeless would be content with an upgrade to these types of accommodation`
Maybe they would, but the only way homelessness and asylum seekers are linked is the horrific actions of the government towards both.
Maybe if we let asylum seekers work whilst claims are being processed they would contribute to the economy? Or we could invest in national infrastructure to house them within local communities, or maybe spend a bit more on processing claims so that`s done more efficiently? We could also set up centres in mainland Europe to avoid them having to take such high risks before making a claim?
Just a few suggestions to avoid having to use hotels as last ditch(which are not nice places to stay long term btw). Not that anyone is interested in solutions. Let`s just get angry at the foreigners
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Jun 12:55
While I can understand the frustration of people coming to the UK via questionable means, I don`t see the need to mention their religion. Is the suggestion that it would be fine if they were Christian, Sikh, Hindu, Buddhist? Just the Muslims we have an issue with.
Let`s be frank, the biggest issue in the UK is useless politicians and corrupt media. The lying gits told people Brexit would fix everything and the media supported them. Guess what? It`s not any better and we`re financially worse off. We`ll now likely see more power given to the likes of Reform who couldn`t run a bath.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 2 Jun 13:05
Anyone who is stupid enough to believe immigrants / asylum seekers are getting fed and receiving four star treatment in the hotels (or any kind of preferential treatment/benefits) the government have paid to house them in deserves a kick up the erse. Don’t be so bloody gullible.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Wotsit
Date: Mon 2 Jun 13:18
1. Captain Tom is a hero because he enthusiastically killed fascists on sight. He wouldn`t be pandering to them now.
2. British people without homes would rather sleep on the streets than put up with the conditions faced by people seeking asylum here.
The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 2 Jun 16:56
Why does anybody want to come to the UK ?🤔
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Jun 17:38
Will you be giving your vote to Reform then, BP? You seem to keep missing me asking.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Mon 2 Jun 17:44
If someone can point me in the direction on where I can book £92 per night luxury hotels that would be great.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Jun 17:50
Quote:
pars4life1, Mon 2 Jun 17:44
If someone can point me in the direction on where I can book £92 per night luxury hotels that would be great.
The hotel in BPs article is 4 star but far from luxury. The star rating relates to facilities, not the luxury. The hotel in the article is over 50 years old.
There is a valid point though. We shouldn`t be using privately owned hotels to essentially imprison people while we sort out processing. Suggestions like daft boats won`t work but surely there are spare government buildings that could be utilised for a lower cost?
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Mon 2 Jun 20:11
`We shouldn`t be using privately owned hotels to essentially imprison people while we sort out processing. Suggestions like daft boats won`t work but surely there are spare government buildings that could be utilised for a lower cost?`
I think everyone is agreed on that, same with homelessness. The reason hotels are used at all is due to our failures to deal with national infrastructure investment. Indeed it`s been cut back with land/property being sold off.
It`s politicians being unable to look beyond the next election. I sell my house and start renting my bank balance looks healthier at first glance. But it`s a poor long term decision, and when you keep making short term decisions there`s severe long term consequences.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Mon 2 Jun 20:23
It`s all part of a big swizz isn`t it? The hotel companies are coining it in from these government contracts, to the tune of about 145 quid per night, per person. They are being paid well over the odds for what it`s costing them. These are shabby, old rooms that would need renovating before they could get them on booking com. The people that stay in these places aren`t living in the lap of luxury, I know someone that volunteers to help some of the people in settling in. They get food, but it`s rubbish quality and insufficient to feed a human properly, we are in no way getting value for money. It`s all a big money making exercise, taking our tax and putting it into private hands
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Mon 2 Jun 21:06
It is perhaps germane to this discussion that it has been the policy of successive uniparty governments for at least the past 25 years that all small boat arrivals must be housed in at least 3-star hotels.
It is hardly surprising many will be housed in 4-star and above.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 2 Jun 21:11
Quote:
Bletchley_Par, Mon 2 Jun 21:06
It is perhaps germane to this discussion that it has been the policy of successive uniparty governments for at least the past 25 years that all small boat arrivals must be housed in at least 3-star hotels.
It is hardly surprising many will be housed in 4-star and above.
Voting Reform then?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 2 Jun 22:05
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Mon 2 Jun 22:09
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 2 Jun 22:05
This isn’t even Great Britain now with all the illegals arriving and making us look like a 3rd world country…our streets are filled with rubbish etc.
just look at Poland right now….protecting their borders and looking after their people!
Beyond parody now.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 2 Jun 22:18
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 2 Jun 22:37
More concerned about my taxes and welfare with the junkies walking down Cowdenbeath High Street causing scenes in the middle of the day than a few people fleeing war torn countries on a treacherous boat crossing from France tbh.
But you do you I suppose.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 2 Jun 23:40
Quote:
Dave_1885, Mon 2 Jun 22:37
More concerned about my taxes and welfare with the junkies walking down Cowdenbeath High Street causing scenes in the middle of the day than a few people fleeing war torn countries on a treacherous boat crossing from France tbh.
But you do you I suppose.
But it`s those nasty illeeeeeguls who are making those junkies go out and cause havoc... 🙄😂
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Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Tue 3 Jun 09:44
Dave they have already fled war torn countries. They are fleeing the EU.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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Topic Originator: DBP
Date: Tue 3 Jun 19:15
There could be many reasons why they would prefer England to France... For example, Do they speak French or English? Do they have a community from their home country in England? Do they have family or friends in England? Do they believe they have a better chance of getting a job in england?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 3 Jun 19:47
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Topic Originator: DBA
Date: Tue 3 Jun 20:02
Quote:
Alter Ego, Tue 3 Jun 19:47
Again I’m not against migrants but we are paying for illegal immigrants living in hotels and getting free meals/medical facilities etc….
Give it 2-3 years and this country will be full of illegals. Ireland is at a point where there will be bother now.
I thought you were at the wind up at first. Interesting how much influence the mainstream media still have, to divert attention to those nasty foreigners.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 3 Jun 20:28
There`s a clear issue with illegal immigration in the UK. There`s no simple solution but one that is already being implemented unintentionally is to make the UK undesirable as a place to live.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 4 Jun 07:48
There is an issue local to my place over here with men if a certain geographical demographic filming school children on their phones, blatantly, in front of parents, so let`s not pretend immigration is a happy friend time.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Wed 4 Jun 18:45
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 4 Jun 07:48
There is an issue local to my place over here with men if a certain geographical demographic filming school children on their phones, blatantly, in front of parents, so let`s not pretend immigration is a happy friend time.
Really? What geographical demographic? Where is this happening about, and what`s getting done about it? I guess it`s a matter of time before the grooming gangs start on the kids up here too
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 4 Jun 21:29
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 4 Jun 21:32
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Jun 07:52
Quote:
red-star-par, Wed 4 Jun 18:45
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Wed 4 Jun 07:48
There is an issue local to my place over here with men if a certain geographical demographic filming school children on their phones, blatantly, in front of parents, so let`s not pretend immigration is a happy friend time.
Really? What geographical demographic? Where is this happening about, and what`s getting done about it? I guess it`s a matter of time before the grooming gangs start on the kids up here too
This is happening in the Bathgate area near a hotel that has been set aside for immigrants, older folk are feeling it too as the guys often walk about in big groups.
It`s all men.
What`s being done about it?
Well so far not much at all.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 5 Jun 08:14
I didn`t realise Stephen Yaxley-lennon posted on here.
So immigrants in Bathgate caused bother by *checks notes* "walking around in groups"? Honestly...
If the allegations of grooming and hanging around playparks are true then I`m surprised none of the vigilante groups who hunt paedophiles have caught them. They seem to catch white men incredibly easily (as do the police based on the Press reports). Is this an example of two tier paedophile hunting?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Jun 10:57
Signal your little good boy badge all you want but that`s what`s happening you *checks notes* wee melt.
It`s not racist to acknowledge that there are problems as well as positives.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 5 Jun 11:20
There`s no need to get upset about it.
You`ve said people were upset by people walking in groups. I`m suggesting this isn`t anything to be alarmed about.
Can you provide evidence of your alleged grooming and photography of children in Bathgate by immigrants? I`m aware this has happened in England, but I`m not aware of any local instances of this. Anyone doing anything like this should obviously be dealt with.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Jun 12:25
Quote:
jake89, Thu 5 Jun 11:20
There`s no need to get upset about it.
You`ve said people were upset by people walking in groups. I`m suggesting this isn`t anything to be alarmed about.
Can you provide evidence of your alleged grooming and photography of children in Bathgate by immigrants? I`m aware this has happened in England, but I`m not aware of any local instances of this. Anyone doing anything like this should obviously be dealt with.
I stood with the son in law and watched it.
Look, you came on here comparing me to Yaxley Lennon you little fruit so do one.
So many little smart ar5es on here with big keyboard mouths.
You sir are grade A pr*k.
I am not suggesting for a second all of them are responsible or bad uns, so don`t suggest it.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Thu 05 Jun 12:25)
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 5 Jun 13:00
Are you okay? I don`t want this to sound patronising but you seem to be going a bit OTT. I`m only asking questions. I apologise if comparing your to Yaxley-Lennon was upsetting but your post sounded exactly like the tripe he comes out with. The issue with the likes of him is he spouts things that are likely partly true but then he sprinkles in some unsubstantiated nonsense meaning it`s then disregarded completely.
Was it grooming or photography you witnessed? Regardless, did you report it to the police?
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Topic Originator: Skerla
Date: Thu 5 Jun 13:19
Woah Dandy, calm down. You’re acting like a snowflake your lot like to label everyone else.
You all like to complain about the big bad foreign groomers but stand and watch them do it? I assume you called the police to report it no?
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Jun 13:23
Quote:
jake89, Thu 5 Jun 13:00
Are you okay? I don`t want this to sound patronising but you seem to be going a bit OTT. I`m only asking questions. I apologise if comparing your to Yaxley-Lennon was upsetting but your post sounded exactly like the tripe he comes out with. The issue with the likes of him is he spouts things that are likely partly true but then he sprinkles in some unsubstantiated nonsense meaning it`s then disregarded completely.
Was it grooming or photography you witnessed? Regardless, did you report it to the police?
Filming kids coming out the local school, twice reported to Police who informed that they weren`t doing anything wrong, which may be the case, however it`s still uncomfortable.
Instead of patronising me how about you pull on your big mouth do gooder pants and pop round the house, you could inform my non Caucasian wife she married a racist?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 5 Jun 15:27
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 5 Jun 12:25
Quote:
jake89, Thu 5 Jun 11:20
There`s no need to get upset about it.
You`ve said people were upset by people walking in groups. I`m suggesting this isn`t anything to be alarmed about.
Can you provide evidence of your alleged grooming and photography of children in Bathgate by immigrants? I`m aware this has happened in England, but I`m not aware of any local instances of this. Anyone doing anything like this should obviously be dealt with.
I stood with the son in law and watched it.
Look, you came on here comparing me to Yaxley Lennon you little fruit so do one.
So many little smart ar5es on here with big keyboard mouths.
You sir are grade A pr*k.
I am not suggesting for a second all of them are responsible or bad uns, so don`t suggest it.
You stood and watched eh? Do anything about it?
Farage is married to a European, he's still a repugnant racist little Tw*t tbf
Post Edited (Thu 05 Jun 15:29)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Jun 15:35
Quote:
Andrew283, Thu 5 Jun 15:27
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Thu 5 Jun 12:25
Quote:
jake89, Thu 5 Jun 11:20
There`s no need to get upset about it.
You`ve said people were upset by people walking in groups. I`m suggesting this isn`t anything to be alarmed about.
Can you provide evidence of your alleged grooming and photography of children in Bathgate by immigrants? I`m aware this has happened in England, but I`m not aware of any local instances of this. Anyone doing anything like this should obviously be dealt with.
I stood with the son in law and watched it.
Look, you came on here comparing me to Yaxley Lennon you little fruit so do one.
So many little smart ar5es on here with big keyboard mouths.
You sir are grade A pr*k.
I am not suggesting for a second all of them are responsible or bad uns, so don`t suggest it.
You stood and watched eh? Do anything about it?
Farage is married to a European, he`s still a repugnant racist little Tw*t tbf
Try reading?
The Police were called, again, would you like to pop round and inform the family.
Sit dow you little mouthpiece.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 5 Jun 16:17
You`ll appreciate you can be married to someone of a different race and still be racist. That`s irrelevant though as I never called you racist.
I`m guessing the police response relates to filming in a public space, but aren`t there rules about filming kids when that appears to be the sole intent of the filming? What about the grooming? That`s much more serious. If the police are ignoring reports of child grooming you should raise that with your local MSP and MP.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Jun 16:28
Quote:
jake89, Thu 5 Jun 16:17
You`ll appreciate you can be married to someone of a different race and still be racist. That`s irrelevant though as I never called you racist.
I`m guessing the police response relates to filming in a public space, but aren`t there rules about filming kids when that appears to be the sole intent of the filming? What about the grooming? That`s much more serious. If the police are ignoring reports of child grooming you should raise that with your local MSP and MP.
Go back through my posts and show me where I mentioned grooming in Bathgate?
I`ll wait.
You insinuated by your you Yaxley Lennon comment that I`m racist, like I said, pop round with your convictions, stand by them and inform my family.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 5 Jun 17:33
Yep, checked what I`d said. The only person mentioning racism or racists is you until my last post pointing out I`d not said you were racist.
I also didn`t say Yaxley-Lennon was a racist. My point related to the spreading of misinformation.
There are definitely cases of paedophilia and grooming in the UK. These should be dealt with and not brushed under the carpet as is often suggested. However, people making unsubstantiated allegations are effectively the boy who cried wolf - when it really does happen no-one believes them.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Thu 5 Jun 20:46
Quote:
jake89, Thu 5 Jun 17:33
Yep, checked what I`d said. The only person mentioning racism or racists is you until my last post pointing out I`d not said you were racist.
I also didn`t say Yaxley-Lennon was a racist. My point related to the spreading of misinformation.
There are definitely cases of paedophilia and grooming in the UK. These should be dealt with and not brushed under the carpet as is often suggested. However, people making unsubstantiated allegations are effectively the boy who cried wolf - when it really does happen no-one believes them.
The police were called, sorry I didn`t film it and post it on social media for keyboard mouthers like yourself.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 5 Jun 20:53
I wouldn`t suggest filming someone filming children. Call the police as you did and let them know. Same applies to suspected grooming of children.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Thu 5 Jun 21:39
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 6 Jun 12:44
They`ll be coming for you too... Sooooon 😂😂😂
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 7 Jun 20:39
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 7 Jun 21:03
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sat 7 Jun 20:39
Different world down there when you enter these certain areas……there is no way they go by UK law…
Ireland is starting to stand up to the illegals getting free everything and it will be the same here soon…We are paying for them so get them out…
Put the pint down, go home and go to bed……
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 7 Jun 21:05
We actually had a local example of misinformation in Dunfermline this week. Story going round on social media that a guy had tried to snatch a kid. The dad was quite understandably upset and seeking to identify the guy. Turned out it was perfectly innocent. Kid had fallen, guy had gone to help. Despite that, we were close to a lynch mob being formed with people suggesting the guy was a migrant being housed in Premier Inn. That appears to also be incorrect.
The tensions are there. It`s just a matter of time before an innocent Muslim is killed. We`re fortunate in Scotland that most immigrants are essentially forced to integrate as we don`t have large concentrations of people not born in Scotland.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 7 Jun 21:54
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sat 7 Jun 23:00
Quote:
jake89, Sat 7 Jun 21:05
We actually had a local example of misinformation in Dunfermline this week. Story going round on social media that a guy had tried to snatch a kid. The dad was quite understandably upset and seeking to identify the guy. Turned out it was perfectly innocent. Kid had fallen, guy had gone to help. Despite that, we were close to a lynch mob being formed with people suggesting the guy was a migrant being housed in Premier Inn. That appears to also be incorrect.
The tensions are there. It`s just a matter of time before an innocent Muslim is killed. We`re fortunate in Scotland that most immigrants are essentially forced to integrate as we don`t have large concentrations of people not born in Scotland.
That`s the way things are now. I would probably have to think twice about my natural instinct to help, if I seen a kid that had fallen off it`s bike possibly better just to turn away and let the kid bleed, than end up on Fife Jammers with everyone calling you a nonce and turning up at yer house, to get you moved on
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Topic Originator: Rusty Shackleford
Date: Sun 8 Jun 10:07
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sat 7 Jun 21:54
Local man tried to help teenage girl and they ran away from him…daughters dad went mental but has since apologised as the guy in question was only there to help.
It’s just mental now…..
Hopefully the lightbulb will go on any second.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 8 Jun 19:49
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 8 Jun 19:53
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 8 Jun 19:49
See yet again social media with all this nonesense getting folk fuelled up with lies.
I can’t stand this country we live in anymore..it’s toxic and all stems from the government in charge.
If you cant stand it, leave 😂
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Mon 9 Jun 09:42
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 8 Jun 19:49
See yet again social media with all this nonesense getting folk fuelled up with lies.
I can’t stand this country we live in anymore..it’s toxic and all stems from the government in charge.
You reckon that has only happened in the last 12 months aye?
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 9 Jun 09:48
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 8 Jun 19:49
See yet again social media with all this nonesense getting folk fuelled up with lies.
I can’t stand this country we live in anymore..it’s toxic and all stems from the government in charge.
Lol
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 9 Jun 21:25
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 9 Jun 22:01
Quote:
Alter Ego, Mon 9 Jun 21:25
Honestly give this country 4 years under Starmer and it’s wrecked..
It was already wrecked before he walked through the door according to Nige and Tommy……..
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 10 Jun 21:12
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Tue 10 Jun 23:27
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Alter Ego, Tue 10 Jun 21:12
Just look at Northern Ireland today…Romanian immigrants at it with teenage girls so there is a war in Balleymena..it will be over here soon!
Aye, one person accused of sexual assault so lets go firebomb 4 homes with young kids in them……
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 11 Jun 02:50
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Alter Ego, Sun 1 Jun 21:34
Tbh it doesn’t matter now! Another 1000 illegals into Britain yesterday to take residence in our 4 star hotels getting fed and personal care on our NHS..
I’m sure captain Tom wouldn’t be a happy guy after what he fought for..
250 million a month it’s costing us taxpayers to house these fighting Muslims and we don’t check their backgrounds…..Captain Tom will be turning in his grave what Britain has turned into now….it’s embarrassing
Well if you ever had any credibility on here, thats it ****** now.
Facist Tw*t
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Topic Originator: DA-go Par Adonis
Date: Wed 11 Jun 07:11
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Alter Ego, Tue 10 Jun 21:12
Just look at Northern Ireland today…Romanian immigrants at it with teenage girls so there is a war in Balleymena..it will be over here soon!
Difficult to argue with that. There`s pretty much been no trouble in Northern Ireland over the last few decades - until the immigrants started arriving.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Wed 11 Jun 09:16
Quote:
PARrot, Wed 11 Jun 02:50
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 1 Jun 21:34
Tbh it doesn’t matter now! Another 1000 illegals into Britain yesterday to take residence in our 4 star hotels getting fed and personal care on our NHS..
I’m sure captain Tom wouldn’t be a happy guy after what he fought for..
250 million a month it’s costing us taxpayers to house these fighting Muslims and we don’t check their backgrounds…..Captain Tom will be turning in his grave what Britain has turned into now….it’s embarrassing
Well if you ever had any credibility on here, thats it ****** now.
Facist Tw*t
A young lass has been sexually assaulted ffs, whilst I don`t condone the mindless violence, it can be looked at and understood, as you can see from the rise of Farage , lot`s of simple folk out there with little nuance.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 11 Jun 10:23
The alleged attackers have rightfully been remanded awaiting trial. Youth court though as both are 14. That is good news.
Now to the not so good - what on earth posses people to torch numerous houses for 2 nights straight?
One house that was attacked had a women and 3 children in it hiding in the attick. One that was set alight had a pregnant woman inside.
This isn’t vigilante behaviour, its down right racial hate violence. The irony after The Troubles is either staggering or their excuse to ignorance.
Anyone thinking this is a good thing or something that our country needs locking up themself IMO.
Post Edited (Wed 11 Jun 16:14)
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Wed 11 Jun 12:23
Sexual assault is bad, I don`t think anyone who isn`t a complete wrong un could argue otherwise.
But, if this was the response to every sexual assault we wouldn`t have a single building in the country that hadn`t been destroyed. People are very clearly using the victim as an excuse for racist violence, and that doesn`t help a single sexual assault victim nor does it prevent future assaults.
Post Edited (Wed 11 Jun 15:18)
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Wed 11 Jun 22:54
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pars4life1, Wed 11 Jun 12:23
Sexual assault is bad, I don`t think anyone who isn`t a complete wrong un could argue otherwise.
But, if this was the response to every sexual assault we wouldn`t have a single building in the country that hadn`t been destroyed. People are very clearly using the victim as an excuse for racist violence, and that doesn`t help a single sexual assault victim nor does it prevent future assaults.
Correct, and the thouhtless fascist twats around us seem to think white British folk dont commit sex crimes.
Ffs in the Divided States of Trumperica they have the biggist criminal in the country in charge, persicuting immigrants
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 13 Jun 20:17
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 13 Jun 22:03
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Alter Ego, Fri 13 Jun 20:17
Oh so now I’m a Facist T*at??? I was going to ask admin to get involved but although I cried last night with the name calling and couldn’t sleep I’ll just accept bullying/name calling me is acceptable on this site……Anyway let’s get back on topic
Does anyone agree with the 250 million a month it’s costing us taxpayers to house, feed and keep these illegal immigrants? They get a set amount of cash per month to live on!
They are making the streets unsafe gathering in groups and shouting at walkers by…mostly sexual slurs at woman…if this was your girlfriend or wife I’m sure you would be concerned?
Nobody can defend what these illegal migrants did in Ireland and although I disagree with the disorder British/Irish people have to stand up for themselves.
Again before I get called Tommy Robinson the 2nd it’s illegal immigrants I’m against and not migrants(I don’t like that name tbh) who come over or who have settled here with their families and work in Britain.
There is something not right with these young men getting of the boats every day with their iPhones etc and we just house them…
I’m only thinking about our children’s future so call me a racist/facist all you want.
Never mind illegal immigrants Alter ego, what about the court case today involving Rochdale residents grooming and sexually abusing girls as young as 10. Sickening stuff, no wonder the far right is growing. The perpetrators of these crimes are bringing it on their communities
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 13 Jun 22:39
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 13 Jun 22:47
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Alter Ego, Fri 13 Jun 22:39
These grooming gangs have been going on for years in the Pakistani communities down south. Finally these horrible disgusting individuals will be put in jail but in jail will be protected by their own religion etc.
Call me racist/facist or whatever you want there has to be changes by the government on illegal immigrants and all these no go zones police cannot venture in as it’s now Sharia law…
Name the exact areas that are no go zones and ran by Sharia law…….
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 13 Jun 22:47
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 13 Jun 22:52
Quote:
Alter Ego, Fri 13 Jun 22:47
Iv been down to these hell hole places in Birmingham and it’s awful…give it a year and Scotland will be the same….
Folk have been saying that for years……
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Sat 14 Jun 00:11
What has any of this utter claptrap got to do with the title of this thread?
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sat 14 Jun 19:45
National Enquiry into grooming gangs to take place, after recommendations from the audit into the nature and scale of the abuse. Good news.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 14 Jun 21:57
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Sat 14 Jun 22:12
Quote:
Dave_1885, Sat 14 Jun 19:45
National Enquiry into grooming gangs to take place, after recommendations from the audit into the nature and scale of the abuse. Good news.
Long overdue.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 14 Jun 22:46
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 15 Jun 06:09
Excellent, yet another review to slow things down and learn lessons.
Can`t help but feel that this country is simply too slow and avoids doing the obvious.
Still, keeps the lawyers fed and watered.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 15 Jun 07:34
Quote:
pars4life1, Wed 11 Jun 12:23
Sexual assault is bad, I don`t think anyone who isn`t a complete wrong un could argue otherwise.
But, if this was the response to every sexual assault we wouldn`t have a single building in the country that hadn`t been destroyed. People are very clearly using the victim as an excuse for racist violence, and that doesn`t help a single sexual assault victim nor does it prevent future assaults.
I wonder if there would have been a similar response if the girl had been sexually assaulted by two boys of Irish descent, and if not, why not?
Eta. Some locals took the trouble to highlight the homes of immigrant families by attaching notices to their doors. One on the BBC website proudly proclaimed, "Filippino lives here."
Disgraceful.
Not your average Sunday League player.
Post Edited (Sun 15 Jun 07:39)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Sun 15 Jun 08:03
Quote:
GG Riva, Sun 15 Jun 07:34
Quote:
pars4life1, Wed 11 Jun 12:23
Sexual assault is bad, I don`t think anyone who isn`t a complete wrong un could argue otherwise.
But, if this was the response to every sexual assault we wouldn`t have a single building in the country that hadn`t been destroyed. People are very clearly using the victim as an excuse for racist violence, and that doesn`t help a single sexual assault victim nor does it prevent future assaults.
I wonder if there would have been a similar response if the girl had been sexually assaulted by two boys of Irish descent, and if not, why not?
Eta. Some locals took the trouble to highlight the homes of immigrant families by attaching notices to their doors. One on the BBC website proudly proclaimed, "Filippino lives here."
Disgraceful.
Of course there wouldn’t be. Can safely say there is sexual assaults committed by white British males everyday in this country and theres no fire bombing of houses because of it…..
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 15 Jun 13:34
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Dave_1885, Sun 15 Jun 08:03
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GG Riva, Sun 15 Jun 07:34
I wonder if there would have been a similar response if the girl had been sexually assaulted by two boys of Irish descent, and if not, why not?
Eta. Some locals took the trouble to highlight the homes of immigrant families by attaching notices to their doors. One on the BBC website proudly proclaimed, "Filippino lives here."
Disgraceful.
Of course there wouldn’t be. Can safely say there is sexual assaults committed by white British males everyday in this country and theres no fire bombing of houses because of it…..
Exactly, Dave. It was a rhetorical question. These thugs are reminiscent of Nazi Germany when Jewish households were daubed with the word "Jude" to highlight the origins of those who lived there.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 15 Jun 13:45
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Eta. Some locals took the trouble to highlight the homes of immigrant families by attaching notices to their doors. One on the BBC website proudly proclaimed, "Filippino lives here`
FWIW GG from what I`ve seen these were initially meant as protection elements.
Non-rioting locals were trying to use UJ to protect their homes and non-Romanian residents were trying to distance themselves(naively IMO)from the riots by declaring their nationality give the initial spark seemed against Romanians.
I don`t think that was a good idea as it seems inevitably the racism would expand beyond one nationality, but if your obviously not native I can see why it seemed like a worthwhile desperate idea.
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 15 Jun 17:51
The misinformation displayed here by some posters repeating the MSM disinformation about the unrest in Ballymena is exactly what has led to the nights of violence we have seen there.
The alleged issues have not been caused by Romanians, but by Roma gypsies from Romania and Bulgaria. The origin of word "Roma" has nothing to do with Romania which seems to have confused some on here.
There have been multiple alleged sexual attacks linked to this group as well as alleged drug dealing and alleged prostitution and sex trafficking.
The things these Roma have been accused of in Ballymena are also leveled at Roma communities in both Romania and Bulgaria.
The latest incident which involved a 13 year old girl being allegedly lured by two 14 year olds to a house with a garage where she was allegedly sexually assaulted by an older man in this garage that had nothing but a mattress on the floor.
I have seen video of the young 13 year old alleged victim`s father speak, he is a black gentleman.
While this latest incident seems to have been the tipping point, the anger has been building for years with similar alleged incidents happening multiple times and anyone highlighting them called all the ists and ismims and ignored by police and politicians for fear of being branded "racist". A rather similar story that will no doubt be revealed in the upcoming grooming gangs inquiry.
I condemn the violence that we have seen in this town over the last few nights and I can also recognise the feeling of helplessness and being ignored by authorities.
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Topic Originator: GG Riva
Date: Sun 15 Jun 18:35
Quote:
pars4life1, Sun 15 Jun 13:45
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Eta. Some locals took the trouble to highlight the homes of immigrant families by attaching notices to their doors. One on the BBC website proudly proclaimed, "Filippino lives here`
FWIW GG from what I`ve seen these were initially meant as protection elements.
Non-rioting locals were trying to use UJ to protect their homes and non-Romanian residents were trying to distance themselves(naively IMO)from the riots by declaring their nationality give the initial spark seemed against Romanians.
I don`t think that was a good idea as it seems inevitably the racism would expand beyond one nationality, but if your obviously not native I can see why it seemed like a worthwhile desperate idea.
Ah, cheers, pars4life. I seem to have got hold of the wrong end of the stick if what you`ve posted is correct. Like you say, if these notices were put up by the residents in these houses, it was very naive, but perfectly understandable.
Still and all, it`s a very regrettable situation. The behaviour of some folk in Ballymena is indefensible.
Not your average Sunday League player.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sun 15 Jun 18:36
Excellent post Bletchly.
It is a concern that people are afraid of calling out factual incidentsof abuse for the fears you correctly highlighted.
That doesnt excuse actial racism though.
The rise of the far right and racism is enabled by the fears of the ignorant.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 15 Jun 18:57
Reminds me a little of when US Republicans were referring to experiments to change the gender of mice when the science was actually looking at transgenic rather than transgender.
Words do matter......and the proliferation of randoms having a platform, and a race to the bottom in terms of quality to reduce cost, unfortunately, will come with more errors.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Sun 15 Jun 19:11
Thought the recent grooming gang in Glasgow were white Scottish?🤔
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Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Sun 15 Jun 19:52
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar like
Date: Sun 15 Jun 18:57
Reminds me a little of when US Republicans were referring to experiments to change the gender of mice when the science was actually looking at transgenic rather than transgender.
Words do matter......and the proliferation of randoms having a platform, and a race to the bottom in terms of quality to reduce cost, unfortunately, will come with more errors.
Yes words do matter.
That CNN "fact check" has already been debunked.
Yes, the mice were "transgenic", hardly surprising when most lab mice are, they contain the genetic material of other animals.
Yes these transgenic mice were given cross-sex hormones in various experiments.
NIH funded these various studies to the tune of $8,290,053.
$455,000
"A Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responses"
https://reporter.nih.gov/project-details/10849830
$2,500,000
"Reproductive Consequences of Steroid Hormone Administration"-
https://reporter.nih.gov/project-details/10619517
$299,940
"Gender-Affirming Testosterone Therapy on Breast Cancer Risk and Treatment Outcomes"
https://tinyurl.com/5yte9va4
$735,113
"Microbiome mediated effects of gender affirming hormone therapy in mice"
https://reporter.nih.gov/search/-NkoAnjCB0uKdDs0r_5qxw/project-details/10944419
$1,200,000
“Androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis”
https://reporter.nih.gov/project-details/11000334
$3,100,000
“Gonadal hormones as mediators of sex and gender influences in asthma”
https://reporter.nih.gov/project-details/10891526
Post Edited (Sun 15 Jun 19:57)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Mon 16 Jun 07:42
You all acting like it`s one sexual assault that started this.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 16 Jun 07:57
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Mon 16 Jun 07:42
You all acting like it`s one sexual assault that started this.
Rubbish
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 16 Jun 11:28
On the Ballymena situation it`s worth being clear that it`s fair to assume that someone who speaks Romanian as their first language is Romanian. They may also be Roma who happens to be from Romania.
Regardless, it`s worth being clear that the man alleged to have been involved was released with no charge. The allegation is that two 14 year olds forced a 13 year old to give them oral sex. The race or ethnicity of those involved is irrelevant. If that did happen, those two boys should be punished (preferably by having their peckers chopped off IMO!).
As has been mentioned, the response is extreme. We regularly see or hear of homes being targeted where there`s a known sex offender present. There was a situation in Dunfermline just a couple of weeks ago where a home had its windows panned in over three nights of protests. What we`re seeing in Ballymena is far more extreme and is using this current case as an excuse to release clear tension that already existed in the community.
If this is against the Roma community, that makes barely 3% of the population of Ballymena but that`s not to say they can or can`t be involved in criminal acts. I`ve never been to Ballymena and don`t know anyone in Ballymena but do know based on local experience how easy it is for situations to be exaggerated and flames fanned by idiots on social media (see: Fife Jammers).
If there`s a perception of immigrants (illegal or otherwise) being given houses over people in greater need, receiving benefits they shouldn`t be or a blind eye being turned to criminal acts, that all needs investigated. Panning in windows and starting fires displays local frustration and impatience, but it won`t get things sorted any quicker.
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Topic Originator: veteraneastender
Date: Tue 17 Jun 15:45
"The alleged issues have not been caused by Romanians, but by Roma gypsies from Romania and Bulgaria. The origin of word "Roma" has nothing to do with Romania which seems to have confused some on here."
It is confusing terminology largely because Romania (the modern country) developed ties historically with the Romans over nearly 2 centuries during the second and third centuries after Dacia was conquered and occupied.
The Romanian language is derived from Latin one of the so called Romance languages.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 17 Jun 22:36
So Romantic Romanians may be Romans?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 18 Jun 21:53
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Wed 18 Jun 21:58
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Alter Ego, Wed 18 Jun 21:53
Illegal immigrants,Migrants,Romanians…..why should they be causing problems in this country?
You say that like Brits don’t go abroad and cause problems……
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 18 Jun 22:39
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 19 Jun 07:58
See Fife Jammers admin found out (again) after posting that Spice of India in the Bay was raided for having illegal immigrants working there. It was accessed by police due to a utility issue. How that page continues to run is beyond me. The admin is a clear right wing nutcase. Also made a snide comment about the Bay being "posh". Sad sack.
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 19 Jun 08:08
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jake89, Thu 19 Jun 07:58
See Fife Jammers admin found out (again) after posting that Spice of India in the Bay was raided for having illegal immigrants working there. It was accessed by police due to a utility issue. How that page continues to run is beyond me. The admin is a clear right wing nutcase. Also made a snide comment about the Bay being "posh". Sad sack.
I know sometimes they just repost what has been sent, so may not have been them that wrote the comment BUT they should be held accountable for what they post. Could lose that shop some serious business because of it. Luckily enough, in the local area anyway, it’s a very well known shop.
More likely to see missing cats and dogs on their page than pop up camera vans these days anyway
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 19 Jun 09:31
The post has been up since yesterday. Spice of India highlighted the error pretty quickly. They`ve just left it there and it`s filled with absolute hogwash from Fife`s finest thickies. They don`t even have the balls to post their names. Pathetic.
ETA: People may think Brian and Compare overzealous with their editing on here but it's because they are responsible for what's posted as the owner/admins of the site. Same rules apply to the fanny that runs FJ.
Post Edited (Thu 19 Jun 09:32)
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 19 Jun 09:39
Place has been a Bay institution for nearly 3 decades and the idiots on the post are just that a idiots.
Really hope the owners take legal action against the page and some of the more racist comments on the post.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Thu 19 Jun 14:09
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Alter Ego, Wed 18 Jun 21:53
Illegal immigrants,Migrants,Romanians…..why should they be causing problems in this country?
Its difficult to imagine you are not trolling.
Do you know, have you seen any of said groups causing problems.
Any more than the white locals.
People are people, good and bad everywhere.
They are not a drain on resources either.
23 billion in welfare funds is unclaimed every year.
Im quite happy for some of my tax to help people in need, no matter where they are from.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 20 Jun 08:17
Quote:
Dave_1885, Thu 19 Jun 09:39
Place has been a Bay institution for nearly 3 decades and the idiots on the post are just that a idiots.
Really hope the owners take legal action against the page and some of the more racist comments on the post.
The cretin is now trying to justify claiming they had illegal immigrants working there by changing his claim to them not paying their leccy bills. Anyone following that idiot needs to give their head a wobble. Guy`s a grade A bigot.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 20 Jun 19:42
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Fri 20 Jun 22:27
If the UK government processed them quicker they wouldn`t be in hotels!
Was there not an invite from the French to set up a centre there?
Obviously turned down in case it was considered to be a cooperation with those pesky Europeans!
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 21 Jun 01:41
Quote:
Alter Ego, Fri 20 Jun 19:42
My place to go for a takeaway..great food and totally out of order what has been said. Tbh I unfollowed that Jammers page a while back as it was going downhill and becoming boring.
Parrot you say 23billion is unclaimed in welfare funds every year…is this from working people paying taxes? So let’s help British people(black,white etc)that were born in Britain instead of the millions we are paying housing illegal immigrants up in hotels etc…Do you really think it’s ok to house these men that we don’t have a clue where they are from as they get rid of their passports as soon as they are in Britain so they can’t be vetted?
Where are the woman and children with them? I’m sure you can invite your families over unless you earn and contribute BUT they are all enjoying themselves in hotels with NHS staff on standby to care for their needs…..And you stand by this?? As in the title do think if captain Tom was still alive and fought for this country he would like to see what is happening?
Another 8000 illegals entered Britain in the past 4 days and people think this is right??
I dont care what your nationality is. If you need help ill give what I can, and my qualifying criteria will not be where you were unfortunate enough to be born.
You need to stop listening to your extreme right wing propaganda roasters and care a bit more about all people.
Im pretty sure that if you were born in a country that persecuted you for your lifestyle or religeous beliefs, or a poverty stricken country with a corrupt government, you would want to find a better life.
There are folk who were born in this country that I would happily trade to make space for people who are so desperate to escape their circumstances that they would risk their lives to do so.
I dont care what colour or religion the are.
A man`s a man, for a` that.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 21 Jun 11:32
What`s the source for 8000 illegal immigrants in 4 days? The average for a YEAR is 36,000 so 8000 in 4 days suggests something has gone terribly wrong.
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Topic Originator: PARrot
Date: Sat 21 Jun 12:38
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jake89, Sat 21 Jun 11:32
What`s the source for 8000 illegal immigrants in 4 days? The average for a YEAR is 36,000 so 8000 in 4 days suggests something has gone terribly wrong.
Right wing scare mongering for the gullible and hate filled.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sat 21 Jun 18:19
Quote:
PARrot, Sat 21 Jun 12:38
Quote:
jake89, Sat 21 Jun 11:32
What`s the source for 8000 illegal immigrants in 4 days? The average for a YEAR is 36,000 so 8000 in 4 days suggests something has gone terribly wrong.
Right wing scare mongering for the gullible and hate filled.
See this is easy, avoid the difficult conversations by branding people racist or (insert relevant "phobe" slur)
There are some truly horrible videos coming out of Ireland with refugees threatening people, whilst racism should be resisted of course, there is another side to all of this that the public are being shamed into keeping quiet about.
Yes the violence is unacceptable but in the end, most folk are simple creatures.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 21 Jun 19:05
Dandy, you`re pretty good at throwing the "racist" term around. Where has anyone called anyone racist?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 21 Jun 20:02
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sat 21 Jun 20:15
Well, I`m regarding the whole public discourse as using racist and (far) right wing relatively interchangeably.
There has been reference on this thread to racist comments (on Fife Jammers) and listening to the views of the right wing press.
I think that is pretty much what we`re seeing in the public debate just now. Even mentioning this as a problem does seem to provoke a response from some quarters that it`s racist to even mention this. And I agree that it`s not healthy to shove our heads in the sand.
From what I`m seeing in terms of the footage, we`re paying a few hundred million to the French so they can watch gangs take the p*** and make a lot of money. I suspect the reason we`re seeing a lot of young males coming across is it seems to be the survival of the fittest and they`re taking the places of the women and kids on the boats as they can get there more easily.
I can`t quite work out why they can`t address the folk running the boats. They are apparently running them tens of miles along the cost now to pick folk up so I don`t understand why a French police or naval boat can`t stop them.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 21 Jun 20:26
The boats ARE an issue but there`s no legal way of stopping them. The only solution would be a massive big fence in the sea with a couple of gates to let ferries in. But these men (it`s 85-90% men) will then be jumping on lorries.
You can make life in the UK unappealing but I`m already struggling to see what appeals to illegal immigrants about life in the UK. Crap weather, the people generally won`t like you, crap benefits and you`ll stick waiting to be processed forever.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 21 Jun 20:26
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sat 21 Jun 20:46
No-one called you racist 😂
The issue I have with some of the posts on here is they go straight to the extreme and start being economical with the truth.
There IS an issue but making stories up doesn`t help anything.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 21 Jun 21:25
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 21 Jun 22:54
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Sun 22 Jun 00:33
It`s actually quite ironic that the U.S. and their allys bomb the life out of their perceived enemy`s Iran, Iraq, etc, to find their citizens landing on our doorstep wanting rehomed
It's even funnier when you realise the U.K coming out of the EU allowed France to wave through the immigrants coming here.
I blame the Brexit Party..
Post Edited (Sun 22 Jun 05:27)
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 22 Jun 06:50
Quote:
jake89, Sat 21 Jun 19:05
Dandy, you`re pretty good at throwing the "racist" term around. Where has anyone called anyone racist?
Calling someone far right has racist connotations, I'm actually starting to think you're not the brightest.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
Post Edited (Sun 22 Jun 06:52)
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Sun 22 Jun 08:43
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 22 Jun 06:50
Quote:
jake89, Sat 21 Jun 19:05
Dandy, you`re pretty good at throwing the "racist" term around. Where has anyone called anyone racist?
Calling someone far right has racist connotations, I`m actually starting to think you`re not the brightest.
That`s a leap 🤣
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 22 Jun 08:43
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 22 Jun 06:50
Quote:
jake89, Sat 21 Jun 19:05
Dandy, you`re pretty good at throwing the "racist" term around. Where has anyone called anyone racist?
Calling someone far right has racist connotations, I`m actually starting to think you`re not the brightest.
No, what I see is a theme where you cry wolf then throw insults when called out on it. Case and point in this quote.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Sun 22 Jun 11:14
Quote:
jake89, Sun 22 Jun 08:43
Quote:
Dandy Warhol, Sun 22 Jun 06:50
Quote:
jake89, Sat 21 Jun 19:05
Dandy, you`re pretty good at throwing the "racist" term around. Where has anyone called anyone racist?
Calling someone far right has racist connotations, I`m actually starting to think you`re not the brightest.
No, what I see is a theme where you cry wolf then throw insults when called out on it. Case and point in this quote.
Where I have I cried wolf you wee mouthpiece?
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 22 Jun 11:49
Yesterday. You said you`d been called racist. You hadn`t.
Dandy, you`ve continually been quite rude towards me and it`s not on. If you have to resort to petty insults or get angered by me simply asking questions, I suggest you log off or ignore my posts.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Sun 22 Jun 12:50
Once the mediators have sorted Iran/Israel/US issues, they`ll be promoted to dot net Boss level.
For what it`s worth, I don`t think Dandy did say *he`d* been specifically called a racist, and specifically not be you.
Unless I`ve missed something, it was more of a general critique on the way that society treats people on certain sides of the argument.
Whether that`s right or wrong, none of it excuses the rudely rude behaviour. Not that folk generally care what I think.
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Sun 22 Jun 13:04
Quote:
ipswichpar, Sun 22 Jun 12:50
Once the mediators have sorted Iran/Israel/US issues, they`ll be promoted to dot net Boss level.
For what it`s worth, I don`t think Dandy did say *he`d* been specifically called a racist, and specifically not be you.
Unless I`ve missed something, it was more of a general critique on the way that society treats people on certain sides of the argument.
Whether that`s right or wrong, none of it excuses the rudely rude behaviour. Not that folk generally care what I think.
Aye we do. You are a valued and respected dot net contributer
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 22 Jun 20:13
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 22 Jun 21:51
They shouldn`t be roaming freely if not identifiable.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 22 Jun 22:57
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Sun 22 Jun 23:50
The amount of rage about people walking around and taking photos is insane, both are perfectly legal.
Would want to know the proposed solution? Bearing in mind we have a legal obligation to consider all asylum applications and not one single person who comes to this country no matter how they get here is illegal without the claim being processed.
Post Edited (Mon 23 Jun 00:06)
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Topic Originator: Tenruh
Date: Mon 23 Jun 06:10
Quote:
Alter Ego, Sun 22 Jun 22:57
But they are right across Britain/Ireland and nobody cares. In the next 2 weeks if not stopped there will be another estimated 2k of illegals
….when does it stop??
When does it stop ??
Maybe when the British and Yanks stop bombing countries like Libya Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemin and Iran.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 23 Jun 08:17
Constant use of terms like Illegals and Aliens. Standard right wing playbook to dehumanise groups of people.
Another thread completely derailed by the ramblings of a madman
Post Edited (Mon 23 Jun 08:17)
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 23 Jun 08:37
How is illegals a right wing term? An illegal immigrant is used very widely to state that a person does not have legal permission to enter the UK but has still done so.
Does that mean legal is a left wing term?
ETA : it might be worth looking at this. Unfortunately without clear statistics we're collectively going to get into a debate based on individual assumptions. A sample of one could massively skew things.
The two things that I feel are definitely true .... big corps are making a lot of money out of this mess and there's a real chance that some of those complaining about stuff could very well be aiding the corporate behaviour that's supporting some of it.
ETA2: It wouldn't let me post a link to the Essex Police Braintree page which reported they had caught someone delivering food in a car on the wrong side of the road, with no UK driving license or right to work or even legal right to be here.
Post Edited (Mon 23 Jun 08:45)
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 23 Jun 09:31
I`m sure that if a few could kick a football about they wouldn`t be illegal for long!
Immigrant is that much of a swearie word that Brits call themselves ex-pats!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 23 Jun 14:46
Quote:
LochgellyAlbert, Mon 23 Jun 09:31
I`m sure that if a few could kick a football about they wouldn`t be illegal for long!
Immigrant is that much of a swearie word that Brits call themselves ex-pats!
Those people are legal migrants who went via a passport check. What`s being referred to here are people who purposefully discarded ID and arrived "illegally".
The biggest issue that no-one talks about is these guys are hanging around town centres because there`s nothing else for them to do and processing takes too long. Rather than making hotel owners wealthy, why not invest in PROPER processing centres so this can be done quicker. Why not develop a legitimate form of requesting asylum in the UK? The guys arriving in the back of lorries must be desperate but the ones arriving on boats and paying smugglers must have decent amounts of cash.
The key thing though is these are people, not just numbers. If you want to solve illegal immigration you need to understand WHY people are coming here illegally in the first place. It certainly isn`t for the weather! The only rational reason is the English language but it`s not that hard to learn Spanish, French, German etc.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Mon 23 Jun 14:51
I meant a footballer "discovered " in a detainment facility!
As I suggested in an earlier post, why not take up the offer of a processing centre on French soil?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 23 Jun 16:00
Other countries too. Albania was definitely one.
We also rejected the suggestion of introducing a LEGAL process to come here.
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Topic Originator: pars4life1
Date: Mon 23 Jun 17:05
Once again, it is not illegal to arrive in this country through unconventional means. Arriving on a dinghy with no passport and claiming asylum is not illegal
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 23 Jun 17:30
Where do you come to that conclusion?
I thought the main changes via https://www.paragonlaw.co.uk/resources/illegal-migration-act-2024-update
didn`t make it less illegal to rock up without appropriate documentation, just that we would do a bit in the UK to review the cases in a timely fashion rather than horsing then off to Rwanda.
It does feel to me like we`re a soft touch on this front, and as nation we`ve ended up having an argument that could have been avoided if we had decent processes that were managed properly.
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 23 Jun 17:35
Quote:
pars4life1, Mon 23 Jun 17:05
Once again, it is not illegal to arrive in this country through unconventional means. Arriving on a dinghy with no passport and claiming asylum is not illegal
It 100% is illegal but one issue is there`s no legal route.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 23 Jun 18:55
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 23 Jun 19:02
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 23 Jun 21:20
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 23 Jun 21:33
Dont think anybody has said its acceptable. Whats not acceptable is the length of time it takes to process any applications and returned rejections.
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 23 Jun 22:00
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Mon 23 Jun 22:53
You keep banging on about people “accepting it” - what do you expect the common working man to do? Go out and set fire to hotels and chase them down the streets? 🤔
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Mon 23 Jun 22:59
It shouldn`t be too hard to identify someone even if they are from the back of beyond. Right now I, as a Joe Bloggs,.could take a photo of someone on here and put it into AI and you would be found. Ever posted on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter? Or maybe a friend did. If I can do that, a government system should be able to do it and more. They`ll have access to passport systems. Can`t find you? Then you`re held in a processing centre until found.
This stuff isn`t hard. You`re telling me we can afford to pay hotels millions of pounds but we can`t build a processing centre in the south of England? Must be plenty old MOD sites with land to build it? Or, as mentioned, build in France. That would probably be better for people rather than being stuck in a hotel with no-one really monitoring what`s going on.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 24 Jun 09:07
Quote:
jake89, Sun 22 Jun 11:49
Yesterday. You said you`d been called racist. You hadn`t.
Dandy, you`ve continually been quite rude towards me and it`s not on. If you have to resort to petty insults or get angered by me simply asking questions, I suggest you log off or ignore my posts.
You called me right wing, that has racist connotations, you said I cried wolf, I saw what I saw and there are videos of incidents all over the Internet.
You`ve been called out elsewhere for your snide remarks. Simply you`re one of these "look at me " flag wavers, a good boy, again frankly all the societal awareness of a child, go you.
You`ve pretty much done nothing but snide remarks toward me with no substance, you get back what you chuck.
Get a spine.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Dandy Warhol
Date: Tue 24 Jun 09:10
Quote:
pars4life1, Sun 22 Jun 23:50
The amount of rage about people walking around and taking photos is insane, both are perfectly legal.
Would want to know the proposed solution? Bearing in mind we have a legal obligation to consider all asylum applications and not one single person who comes to this country no matter how they get here is illegal without the claim being processed.
So two grown men taking pictures of little girls coming out of school is OK?
Righty then, I see you.
I don`t wanna go down like disco.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Tue 24 Jun 10:58
What even is this thread? 🙄
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 24 Jun 21:24
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Tue 24 Jun 21:52
Where do you get the 2k per week figure?
Are you suggesting it`s 2k per week for a 52 week period?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 24 Jun 22:51
Nice one Dandy, though I`ll point out a couple of issues:
1. Never called you racist. I suggested you were a Yaxley-Lennon due to the claims you made of people being intimidated by immigrants walking on the street, something that is frankly laughable. I apologise if you felt I was suggesting you were racist, which is not something I believe of you.
2. You`ve fired out far more abuse at me than I have at you. I don`t take it personally and genuinely hope you`re doing well, but you need to be mindful of the forum rules around abuse.
3. As mentioned a number of times, my issue is with people exaggerating. This isn`t exclusive to you though so don`t take it that way. The reason I have an issue with it is it means that when truly awful things happen (and they DO happen!) it means that people can turn round and say it`s just another porky pie because of the mistruths told previously.
Genuinely wish you well and I`m not seeking to annoy you though I appreciate it clearly am!
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Tue 24 Jun 22:52
Quote:
ipswichpar, Tue 24 Jun 21:52
Where do you get the 2k per week figure?
Are you suggesting it`s 2k per week for a 52 week period?
That figure is incorrect. It`s not even 1k a week. More like 7-800 on average. Still a high figure but it`s not 2k.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 25 Jun 06:26
Cool, ta. That was my understanding too.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Wed 25 Jun 07:51
“The claim that “2,000 illegal immigrants arrive in the UK every week” doesn’t stem from any official source—it’s an off‑hand calculation often used to dramatize Channel arrivals, but it’s misleading. Here’s a clearer breakdown:
🔍 Origins of the “2,000 a week” claim
• This figure loosely stems from dividing annual detected small‑boat crossings (e.g. ~100,000/year) by 52 weeks—an oversimplified assumption.
• But official Home Office / ONS data shows far lower numbers actually recorded.  
📊 What the data actually says
Small‑boat (irregular) arrivals:
• In the 12 months to March 2025: 38,023 people arrived by small boat 
• In the year ending December 2024: 43,630 irregular arrivals detected 
That works out to:
• ~730 per week (38,000 / 52) or
• ~840 per week (43,600 / 52)
All irregular arrivals (including those by air, port, and undetected):
• Year ending June 2024: 38,784 detected 
• Year ending December 2024: 43,630 detected 
🧮 Summary: The real weekly rate
Timeframe
Annual detected irregular arrivals
Weekly average
Mar 2024–Mar 2025
38,023
~730
Jan 2024–Dec 2024
43,630
So, rather than 2,000 illegal migrants per week, the data indicates closer to 800–850 detected arrivals per week. This count only includes people who are caught/detected—not undetected arrivals or those who overstayed visas.”
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Wed 25 Jun 08:40
Is that a ChatGPT answer P?
If it isn`t, it`s way to polite isn`t it. It almost gives some credibility.
I think "Did they Aye" might be a more appropriate response in present company 😀
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 25 Jun 12:29
AE makes stuff up all the time and just quotes the red tops so doubt he’ll have done any research into figures.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Wed 25 Jun 12:57
Quote:
ipswichpar, Wed 25 Jun 08:40
Is that a ChatGPT answer P?
If it isn`t, it`s way to polite isn`t it. It almost gives some credibility.
I think "Did they Aye" might be a more appropriate response in present company 😀
It is indeed chatGPT but it’s a quick way to get to information although I’m sure 2000 will continue to be thrown around.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Wed 25 Jun 13:02
Quote:
buffy, Wed 25 Jun 12:29
AE makes stuff up all the time and just quotes the red tops so doubt he’ll have done any research into figures.
Not quite correct and not sure why you think I wouldn’t research the figures given? AI does provide hallucination responses which is why you validate what it presented to you although helpfully chatGPT provides links to the sources used. So the sources for the information I provided are not red tops they are;
Fullfact.org - 5 references
Gov.uk - 1 references
There is a telegraph reference and Reddit but they each refer to the above 2 source so are requotes
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 25 Jun 13:03
I said AE not you P.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Wed 25 Jun 21:06
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 25 Jun 21:43
If they`re here and not accounted for then that`s a big concern, as they could be dodgy, or could be getting taken advantage of. The positive for some might be that they won`t be costing the taxpayer money as they won`t be able to get a flat or benefits.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Wed 25 Jun 21:50
You’re the gullible one AE. Utterly gullible.
Carry on trolling. Some poor sod will lap it up I’m sure.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 26 Jun 06:55
Quote:
Alter Ego, Wed 25 Jun 21:06
I make info up Buffy? Don’t be so naive to what is going on.
As P said the data only indicates illegals caught on on their boats by the British authorities to gain access…trust me there is double that appearing on beaches across the country not detected and getting put up in hotel/bed and breakfasts.
It’s not like a 1 way boat trip for illegals for us to catch them…then you have to think the illegals that go and stay with their fellow members that have not been detected and what convictions they have?
Folk have had enough now and if this carries on there is going to be major problems…Bring all these religions/3rd world the way they live and then we have it..streets filled with everything.
Incorrect - did you not read the bit that says air, port (which is small boats) and undetected for the full total per year? So nowhere near 2000 a week - pulled the relevant piece out for you;
“All irregular arrivals (including those by air, port, and undetected):
•Year ending June 2024: 38,784 detected 
•Year ending December 2024: 43,630 detected ”
While those sentences end with the word detected it includes estimates for undetected when you validate in the supporting link at fullfact.org
Post Edited (Thu 26 Jun 06:57)
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Thu 26 Jun 08:11
I don’t know why you Jocks are getting so worked up about this…it’s not like any of them want come up here and they’re not landing on Aberdour beach or anything
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Thu 26 Jun 08:26
Quote:
Parboiled, Thu 26 Jun 08:11
I don’t know why you Jocks are getting so worked up about this…it’s not like any of them want come up here and they’re not landing on Aberdour beach or anything
Laugh now but apparently within a couple of months they`ll have taken over and that wee deli in Aberdour will be a halal supermarket. Mock if you will... 🙄
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Thu 26 Jun 08:31
Quote:
Parboiled, Thu 26 Jun 08:11
I don’t know why you Jocks are getting so worked up about this…it’s not like any of them want come up here and they’re not landing on Aberdour beach or anything
I`m more worried about the immigrants from england to be honest.
Whenever I am up in the Highlands and pop into a pub or whatever there is always some english immigrants bemoaning the fact that, "it`s not the england I once knew" and telling their tale of how they have been taken over down there.
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Topic Originator: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 26 Jun 09:39
And going by Yougov polls they`ll be a queue at the border!🤔
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Thu 26 Jun 10:09
If you lot got Independence there would be queues at the border och aye…
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Topic Originator: Parboiled
Date: Thu 26 Jun 11:18
Oh I forgot , Sturgeon was gonna house Syrian refugees …easy pledge to make when you’ve a big hoose and access to a camper van!
Post Edited (Thu 26 Jun 12:21)
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Thu 26 Jun 13:31
What`s on earth are you slavering about?
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Topic Originator: Par
Date: Thu 26 Jun 14:47
Quote:
Parboiled, Thu 26 Jun 11:18
Oh I forgot , Sturgeon was gonna house Syrian refugees …easy pledge to make when you’ve a big hoose and access to a camper van!
Is that why she had a tent in her garden
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Thu 26 Jun 21:39
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Thu 26 Jun 21:50
Oh shut up you idiot
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: wee eck
Date: Thu 26 Jun 21:57
I don`t know if `racist` is the right word but it`s certainly discriminatory to refer to everyone who comes here as `illegal` and suggest they spend their time in the lap of luxury and patrolling the streets causing trouble.
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Thu 26 Jun 21:57
Raging when presented with facts. I suspect Alter Egos life has not worked out as hoped and seeks to blame those that are different from him for that.
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Fri 27 Jun 10:17
The last three posts gave me a genuine lol. One giving a commentary on the vernacular of the public discourse, one with views about the individual impact that life`s challenges may have resulted in for an individual poster, and one giving some clear feedback on a specific posters line of argument.😀
I look forward to AE`s return in a few months to see how accurate or not their forecasts were...
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 27 Jun 21:22
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 27 Jun 21:37
It’s a pity you can’t stick to your word. Attention seeking idiot.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 27 Jun 21:46
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Fri 27 Jun 21:49
Quote:
Alter Ego, Fri 27 Jun 21:22
Well well guys and Buffy..just didn’t want to say you were a guy or whatever nobody can say…what I will do is come back every week and report from the government on how many illegal immigrants have entered Britain? And we are paying for their 4 star hotels, NHS nurses making sure they are ok and they get a bit of Pocket money to spend when they are out and about…now have any of these individuals been checked coming into Britain? If not and they can’t prove who they are then they need held as could be a terroism threat etc….but hey ho put them in hotels with cleaning/nhs services and let them roam about in groups all over towns/villages causing problems..
Anyway I’ll be back next week with another amount of illegals entering
…I’m really surprised that folk can’t see what is happening but I’ll be called a racist,facist,bigot ant Tommy Robinson lover….wait and see!!
Won`t someone think of the poor white man 😭😭 Poor poor little man that you are
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 27 Jun 21:50
To be honest with you, having read this thread, and your "jokes" on the Joke Forum, you ARE a racist. There`s no other way to put it, no way to dress it up, or try and give you the benefit of the doubt. You ARE a racist.
Not only that, you come across a fairly intellectually challenged. It`s a shame, I do feel quite sorry for you, but you are exactly the target market for people like Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson. They aim their message straight at people like you, chip on your shoulder because life hasn`t turned out how you wanted and rather than own your failure, you want to put the blame on someone.
You are being played like a fool
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 27 Jun 22:03
When AE comes back in a couple of months, what is the expected state of Dunfermline at this point? Are we talking a few guys staying in Premier Inn or are we talking Life being converted into a Mosque? (It is owned by a Muslim family afterall). Maybe the Kingsgate is renamed the al-Malik gate?
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 27 Jun 22:18
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 27 Jun 22:23
Quote:
Alter Ego, Fri 27 Jun 22:18
Oh so I am a racist @redstar… See then you try and put me down like you do with other posters on this site…Nobody cares so go back under your PIP, government funded rock and jog on…Ohh I knew wee Jakey would be along with his comment and let’s just say in 5/6 months time we will see!…..
Haha
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Fri 27 Jun 22:31
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Topic Originator: red-star-par
Date: Fri 27 Jun 22:49
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Alter Ego, Fri 27 Jun 22:31
See you all in a week for the illegal update….
Bye bye!
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Topic Originator: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 27 Jun 22:53
Is this cringe fest of a thread still ongoing?
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Fri 27 Jun 23:13
But what`s your prediction for when you come back in a couple of months AE? We need details so we can check what you have foreseen.
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Fri 27 Jun 23:29
No point.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
Post Edited (Sat 28 Jun 00:28)
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sat 28 Jun 19:18
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Sun 29 Jun 21:27
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Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Sun 29 Jun 21:57
That`s half what it was before so that`s immense progress in just a few days. Well done Sir Keir!
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Topic Originator: ipswichpar
Date: Mon 30 Jun 08:01
AE, for the good of your sanity I`d suggest cooling your jets on this one.
With the reduction in aid budgets (ironically something that most on we must lower immigration side of the argument would also support) we`re only going to see more folk trying to cross the channel. Of course, the focus in the UK is on folk crossing the channel, but it`s simply a specific example of illegal immigration that all developed countries are seeing.
I do actually think some of Rwanda scheme is likely a good solution. At least it`s better than encouraging folks to take the risk to come here for some free medical care.
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Topic Originator: Andrew283
Date: Mon 30 Jun 12:26
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Alter Ego, Fri 27 Jun 22:18
Oh so I am a racist @redstar… See then you try and put me down like you do with other posters on this site…Nobody cares so go back under your PIP, government funded rock and jog on…Ohh I knew wee Jakey would be along with his comment and let’s just say in 5/6 months time we will see!…..
Seething wee mess of a boy. Cheery bye
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 30 Jun 20:02
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Topic Originator: buffy
Date: Mon 30 Jun 20:10
38 times you’ve posted the same guff on this thread. You really are the worst troll on the forum.
”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Mon 30 Jun 20:38
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Topic Originator: Alter Ego
Date: Tue 1 Jul 22:09
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Topic Originator: P
Date: Wed 2 Jul 06:47
So 740 a week then - you must be pleased that it’s much lower than 2000 a week then 👍🏼
Sounds like you really need a holiday with your hotel fixation though - maybe you should cram 5 folk into your hotel room and see how wonderful it is.
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